Crawford needs to RELAX about P4P Ranking

[@mattm.8252]

Naoya Inoue is 30 yrs. old. He's been a pro for 11 yrs. His record is 26-0 with 23 by knockout for 88.5%. He became a World Champion in his sixth fight. He's a four division World Champion, Unified in one, Undisputed in two. He's had twenty-one title fights, 80.7%. It took him 1 yr. 13 days to become Undisputed in two divisions. Starting at 108 lbs., he's gone to 122 lbs., 14 lbs. change, 13% of starting weight. Crawford is 36 yrs. old. He's been a pro for 15 yrs. His record is 40-0 with 31 by knockout for 77.5%. He became a World Champion in his twenty-third fight. He's a three division World Champion, Undisputed in two. He's had eighteen title fights, 45%. It took him 5 yrs. 11 months 10 days to become Undisputed in two divisions. Starting at 135 lbs., he's gone to 147 lbs., 12 lbs. change, 9% of starting weight. Naoya (nah-OH-yah) Inoue (ee-NO-oo-eh) is #1 Pound for Pound.

[@ebenade1]

The fact that it only took 6 fights for him to be World Champion in a division should clue you in on the fact that his divisions have far less competition than those at lightweight, or welter weight Inuoue has fought 26 fights and only 2 of then have been against formerly undefeated fighters... Why do you think that's the case?

[@mattm.8252]

@@ebenade1 It's because the lighter divisions require skill, not just punching power. Francis Ngannou nearly knocked out Tyson Fury in his first professional boxing match. Inoue has speed, power, skill, toughness, and fight IQ. He's a multi-generational fighter. That's why it only took him 6 fights. Canelo Alverez is 60-2-2. Are you going to tell me he's a pushover, because he has two losses and two draws?

[@benjaminbryantjr4262]

@@mattm.8252 what are you talking about first ngauou was a former kickboxer he has a boxing background and there’s skill at every level at boxing if canelo was a smaller fighter he’d be more dominate if loma fought at 122 or lower he’d be unbeatable

[@mattm.8252]

@@benjaminbryantjr4262 Ngannou is a beast. But, his training in boxing is limited. He only trained for a year in Cameroon, before financial problems made continuing impossible. I'm not sure how long he trained in boxing in Paris, before switching to MMA, but I don't think it was long. He only had one professional kickboxing match... and kickboxing, although it shares some elements as boxing, is very different. I've boxed and kickboxed, so I know. You don't need to look farther than the Mayweather exhibition against Tenshin Nasukawa, proven to be the best kickboxer in the world, maybe kickboxing's GOAT, after he beat Takeru Segawa, that there is a difference. @ebenade1 is claiming that the fact that it only took six fights for Inoue to win a World Championship means the division he won was easy. It's not. Using Fury vs. Ngannou as an example shows it's not necessarily the number of professional fights a fighter's had that reflects the level of talent and/or skill a fighter has. Add that to the fact that Inoue has been training in boxing, since he was six. He had 81 amateur matches by the time he was 19 yrs. old with a record of 75-6. 48 of those wins were by KO or RSC. In the era in which amateurs wore headgear, Inoue knocked out 48 guys in three 3-minute rounds or less, wearing 16 oz. gloves. There are skills, and skilled fighters, at every level of boxing. I didn't state my case well. My point is that at the lightest weight classes, skill is more important than it is at the mid- and high- weight classes. When you're that light, most fighters don't have the same kind of power that Inoue has, so you have to have the skills. Fewer fighters at the lighter weights have the punchers' chance. Inoue has been able to take World Championships in four divisions, because he is a complete package, not because the fields in those divisions are weak. Canelo and Lomachenko are phenomenal boxers. I'm not saying they aren't, although I think Inoue would beat Loma at 122. You missed my point. @ebenade1 was casting shade on Inoue, saying that he hadn't faced real competition, because only two of his fights were against undefeated boxers. I don't know if that's true, and I'm not going to look up the records of all the fighters Inoue and Crawford have fought for a comparison. I'm attacking the flawed premise that having something in the L column definitively means the fighter isn't worthy competition. Canelo and Loma both have losses, but they are both exceptional fighters. I should have also posed the question to @abenade1, does the fact that Cool Boy Steph Fulton and Errol Spence are, now, no longer undefeated, mean they're no good? They would have been better examples to use, since my suspicion is that @ebenade1 has a problem with Inoue, because Inoue isn't Black. Mayweather is a prime example of the Black bias against Inoue. He's claimed that when Inoue fought Donaire the first time, Donaire was almost 40 yrs. old, so Inoue should have stopped him, early. In their first fight, Donaire had just turned 37 yrs. old, three days prior, so he was less than a year older than Crawford is, now. Donaire put a deep cut on Inoue's eyelid and fractured his orbital bone in the second round, so Inoue fought the remainder of the fight with blurred vision. He used a trick of Donaire's, covering his eye with his glove. In the ninth, Donaire broke Inoue's nose. Inoue still won the fight. Mayweather even went so far as to imply Inoue is juicing. The bigotry against Inoue by many Black fighters and commentators is real. And, as I said, my guess is that is the case with @ebenade1.

[@Usercomanchione]

​@ebenade1 Fulton was undefeated so how did that work for your claim. It didn't, you guys hyped him to be slick Philly blk American style . What a hype job.

[@YNWMachy]

Inoue is #1 P4P 100%

[@turklurk]

Crawford beat an inactive post 2 car accidents, post retinal detachment Spence. While Inoue went up in weight fought two prime active champions in a span of 6 months and finished them. 😂

[@limitlessjh4193]

Also fought Benavidez after he got shot in the leg and had his lay-off

[@ebenade1]

Inuoue beat a 40 year old whos been knocked out twice already, meanwhile Spence was actually ranked as a p4p fighter. Nobody who Inuoue has faced has been ranked as a p4p fighter..

[@lalalolola]

@@ebenade1 quit talking bout donaire and talk about their recent fights which put them up for debate for p4p. But, if you wanna go that route, inoue has been in 22 straight title fights and knocked most of them out. crawford only fights once every year. nuff said.

[@ebenade1]

@@lalalolola Inuou has been in 22 straight title fights, and in that span he's only managed to fight 2 people with undefeated records lmaooo

[@lilant2109]

@@ebenade1 facts

[@gideonartistry]

Meanwhile, Naoya doesn't really care about this p4p and FOTY awards, but he'll be happy if he wins it, he said.

[@inquisitvem6723]

He won FOTY!

[@donvongprachanh1484]

Inoue is a great champion 🏆 and he earned that title until someone can beat him and take that belt away.

[@toddacious07]

“A man who must say ‘I am king’ is no true king.” Sure, he’s a special fighter, but Bud’s childishness has made me lose respect for him. Take note from a REAL person of character like Inoue, who is not only humble and respectful no matter what, but is of no real need for titles and accolades. Remember when he won the Mohammad Ali trophy? Inoue lent it to Donaire to take home for the night because Donaire promised his kids that he’d bring home the trophy. That is class. That is honor. That is love for the sport and your fellow sportsman. Unlike Bud who is incensed and entitled enough to whine about someone else potentially topping him on a list that is so subjective, that it almost literally means nothing haha. Special Fighter no doubt, but Insecure AF Champion for damn sure (sadly). You know what? Screw it. Give Bud P4P#1 and FOTY! Monster don’t need it. Crawford’s the only one between himself and Inoue who is being such a drama queen diva about it anyway lmao.

[@alwynpereira7363]

well said!

[@nanakwesinyantakyi9408]

Cope from a BUM

[@Whatever-u5w]

Absolutely.. Just like you said, its about the personality of the fighter.. Forget the fact that Bud is ALWAYS seen at charity events for the terminally ill and mentors the next generation of boxers.. And so what if Inoue doesn't do that, because Inoue is a class act.. Unlike Bud, who is just whining all day about his circumstances.. I mean sure, Crawford wasn't only fighting Spence.. he was fighting the nay sayers (including his own mother who doubted him since he was a kid), the media (who was CONSTANTLY slandering his name), family members praying on his downfall (like his sister who tweeted #ManDown the day before his fight) and the boxing networks black balling him.. AND WE GET IT....!! DUDE LITERALLY HAD TO CALL THIS MAN TO GET THE FIGHT MADE.. but that's STILL not comparable to the fight Inoue fought.. I mean come on.. He beat a 5 foot 4 filipino who was KO'd twice for crying out loud.. Now THAT............ Is FOTY worthy.

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Inoue is a incredible talent and a humble guy...i like this

[@mattm.8252]

@@nanakwesinyantakyi9408 About whom are you referring, the OP or Crawford?

[@idatenidaten5548]

What the Monster did is equivalent to being undisputed in Super Welterweight and Middleweight for Terence Crawford. I love Bud, but it’s hard to find such a small man like him with 90% KO rate. He’s compared to a generational talent.

[@salaudeenilyas3680]

Different level of competition compared to the lower weights

[@ebenade1]

Not even close, the level of competition is far greater at middle weight, as is the weight and size difference

[@Whatever-u5w]

Absolutely..! He beat a 5 foot 4 filipino (who was KO'd twice before) and fought his first black fighter this year y'all (who also happens to be the second undefeated fighter he's faced in his 10+ year career).. Now thats a legacy y'all.. Thats equivalent to Bud moving up to heavyweight and knocking out Wilder.

[@eclisis5080]

no it's not, middleweight is a 13 pound differet from welterweight, those small division are only a couple pounds apart, it's a joke, just like when they tried to make Chocalito p4p number 1 over Ward, at the end of the day, nobody cared, just like nobody cares about Inoue so they have to give them this accolades nobody ever remembers, who was fighting of the year last year, exactly lmao

[@lilant2109]

How can you say something so stupid , it’s no where near the same . Nobody fights down there but inoue and a bunch of cab drivers

[@adrianmariuscracana7035]

I'm very sure Inoue don't give too much shit about FoTY and p4p, at least he will never cry for those titles like Crawford did

[@sr2340]

Inoue is easily p4p #1. I wasn’t aware Crawford was saying this, makes me lose a little respect…

[@boredboxing]

Definitely a sign that the attention and fame has gone to his head a little bit.

[@jay-tonicsatherapper6171]

​@@boredboxingHow can you lose p4p when you never lost or retired, make it make sense

[@mugen7600]

@@jay-tonicsatherapper6171watch the video man

[@inquisitvem6723]

@@boredboxingInoue got fighter of the year which I’m happy with from ESPN! Terence got to retain his #1 p4p

[@Sizwen]

​@@boredboxinggive the man his credit lol.

[@TmoneyOGGamer]

Inoue has never disrespected any fighter. He even gave a trophy to Donaire, it’s obvious who is P4P it’s not even about the fights. Crawford just made himself looking bad.

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Inoue is a special guy and incredibile boxer

[@leonardomoore1868]

​@@AlessandroUlcigraiI s that why their is no drug testing in Japan and he won't fight anywhere else?

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

What??

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

@@leonardomoore1868 c mon bro...

[@cacogenicist]

Definitely would give Bud the _fight_ of the year -- the best individual performance -- but Inoue is _fighter_ of the year for sure. And I think Inoue ticks all the boxes for P4P; he's taken belts at more weight classes; and from Dec 2022 to Dec 2023, he has become undisputed in 2 weight classes, stopping three 3 champs, including KOing 2 unified guys in 2023 at 122 -- Inoue started at freakin *_108_* That's some P4P shit right there. Dude is fighting above his best weight, and KOing unified champs. Fight more frequently next year, Bud. You're not getting any younger.

[@boredboxing]

💯 exactly! No discredit to Bud at all, it just is what it is! Thanks for commenting my friend, hope you sub 🫡

[@rickmoon3663]

​@@boredboxingSo Crawford ain't a 2 time undisputed? Who did it first? You just admitted yourself that you don't want to see a rematch and they were supposed to fight in December. Dudes like you don't wanna see it again and neither do the networks. Ain't Bud's fault that y'all tryna downplay a masterful performance. You don't lose p4p after you beat another p4p top 5 fighter. Inoue has never beaten a p4p fighter ever. Yes he had a great year, but he ain't p4p no 1 and Crawford should have been fighter of the year. You saying you don't want to see a rematch tells me that you should have voted for Crawford.

[@homadpatterson3181]

What would think if was you .

[@davidpark2509]

Now that inoue is beginning to get more and more attention from the boxing community and western audience expect alot more hate coming his way going forward calling him fraud or hypejob.

[@VK-el3of]

Crawford not active enough. Thats a knock on him cause he controls that.

[@turklurk]

I have no problem who the number #1 P4P is coz it's interchangeable in every fight. The fact that Inoue has the latest fight and added accomplishment before the year ends, he deserves the P4P at the moment and especially the FOTY. Bud can fight next month, win and claim back his #1 spot. But bias fans can't accept the fact that other boxers, race and nationality not their own have the right to take the mantle as well. Please respect them as boxers and their accomplishments, and push your idols to do better next time around. Don't nit pick coz there's no perfect fighter/opponents/records. Everyone/everything has it's pros and cons.

[@boredboxing]

It changes every fight night for sure, it’s extremely subjective as well. Thanks for commenting my friend hope you sub!

[@andrewsaitken3513]

Yes brother! You're speaking facts i agree. 👍

[@boredboxing]

I appreciate the love my man, thanks for commenting and I hope you subscribe and stick around 🤝

[@andrewsaitken3513]

@@boredboxing Subscribed! 👍

[@JamesBrown-xo5pd]

Crawford is number one pound for pound in the world

[@bengolfs1]

Just curious: Who has Bud beat that would merit P4P #1 ranking? And, at 36 years of age, Why is he begging Canelo for a relief check if he's supposedly #1? He's a joke.

[@alwynpereira7363]

He asking for a Canelo fight proves his lack of business acumen. He comes across as naive. He never showed the guts to move up in weight when he was not getting the Spence fight, and fought nobody's for a long time. And suddenly he starts listening to his team and they show him the money, and he thinks he deserves a Canelo fight, straight up. A complete Joke. He can dare to take on Spence at 154, Janibek at 160 and then say Ill fight Benevidez or Canelo, he he has really courage to back his 'Canelo' talk.

[@bengolfs1]

@@alwynpereira7363 I agree. Bud has to be one of the most mismanaged fighters of the past 30 years or so. And then he has the nerve to pull the race card on Bob Arum and Top Rank, trying to blame them for his lack of popularity. Bud is a thoroughly unlikeable guy. That's the reason he can't sell out a high school gym.

[@ebenade1]

Haha ask the same question for Inuoue. Who's the highest ranked fighter he's beaten? Fulton? Spence was literally top 5 p4p, and Crawford demolished him in a greater fashion than anyone expected. Most Inuoue fans cant name 5 of the figters he's fought off of their head because they're mostly nobodies.

[@bengolfs1]

@@ebenade1 I agree with you. There are lots of novice boxing fans who think Inoue is great with only 26 fights. He is not. I think Canelo has more TITLE fights than that. There is NO clear cut P4P #1 right now. There is no dominant fighter everyone can agree on. If Canelo can beat David Benavidez next year, though, he goes back to #1 for me.

[@ya_got_cooked]

​@@ebenade1spence shouldnt be at #5 pfp after the accident, he was rusty, not the same dude when he fought bud, who bud fought? gamboa? nobody mean machine? defective brooks, defective khan? fraud horn? nothing but paper

[@FhillipFry]

At this point, im tired of bud and pbc fanboys(their rooting for him now, guess why). Just let them have it out of pity.

[@boredboxing]

We can take a WILD guess lol 🤣

[@themarathoncontinues2289]

You know he doesn’t believe he’s p4p king when he has to convince the fans that he is lol it’s like Floyd calling himself TBE and nobody but his fans calls him that

[@sr2340]

Absolutely 💯

[@ebenade1]

Muhammed Ali always called himself the greatest fighter, and it was clear to anyone with a head on their shoulders at the time that he was

[@mrpacman1185]

Inoue no debate

[@jaysonxilero8520]

Crawford just cant accept that all his accomplishment this year has been eaten alive by a japanese monster.

[@imaginegettingclap7340]

Inoue isn’t asking for p4p number 1, ppl who see his fight put his name up there, meanwhile Crawford asking for it, there is a difference

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Tapales is a tough opponent whit a big heart

[@JuanTorres-gk6db]

Finally the saying what it is I'm definitely subscribing

[@limitlessjh4193]

Inoue P4P king!!! Crawford is losing respect

[@treeightoh3003]

MONSTER and if he don't win we all know WHY

[@ghostlover951]

Crawford is acting like he just beat Floyd mayweather, he wants more credit then he deserves, yes, Errol Spence is a good fighter, but he wasn't even in the top 5 of a lot of people top 5 p4p list... it was the fight of the year, but not fighter of the year. Sorry

[@boredboxing]

This exactly!

[@ebenade1]

He was literally top 5 is nearly every p4p list until he lost. Crawford beat him so bad, that people seem to forget He was higher ranked than anybody Inuoe has fought (or likely will ever fight)

[@sonnynguyen9103]

You just described it perfectly

[@kevinher740]

Crawford....it's okay to be #2 lol!!

[@0202068103]

Mr. Crawford, if you have a grievance, try writing a letter to the editor of the New York Times! 😄😁😃😆🙂🙃😉😊

[@Jerryemcse]

Crawford gets his best of his career against a broken-down hype job Spence and he's acting like a diva. He couldn't sell outside of his home town and his PPV's were terrible until he fought Spence but now he's acting like he's some type of king of the universe demanding things that he is no position to demand just like a diva.

[@user-wr9lh4ly1n]

Spence in the PFP ranking is a bit questionable

[@TmoneyOGGamer]

It’s racism, his Asian, it’s never been done before. That’s what the haters are really saying. He fought against the best, Donaire had the fight of his life, so don’t even bring that up. 8 belts in a year, mic drop, that’s all I have to say about this.

[@jimiewilliams7623]

Pacquiao is Asian. Pacquiao has been fighter of the year. Pacquiao has many black fans. I doubt that Terrence and his fans are being racist. they're being biased.

[@benjaminbryantjr4262]

Half the people saying inoue is number 1 don’t even watch his fights there’s a reason why he only fights in Japan second wasn’t Crawford the first to become 2x undisputed so how does inoue jump over him by beating Paul butler who I know most haven’t heard of or marlon taples who I know most haven’t heard of and if you say you have your either lying or your amongst the very few Crawfords American so I’m riding with the American give that man his credit I bet if he was Mexican this wouldn’t even be a debate

[@boredboxing]

No one is saying Crawford isn’t great. But you can’t fight once in a calendar year and claim p4p over someone who claimed belts in two divisions

[@benjaminbryantjr4262]

@@boredboxing but Crawford did claim belts in two divisions he was the first male 2x undisputed and he did it before inoue

[@akikozu7444]

Hypocrisy at its finest. You accuse others of not watching Crawford fights yet you obviously haven't watched much of Inoue's fights. You say one of the standards for greatness is fighting outside your country? Inoue has already fought in Vegas twice, once in California and once in Scotland. Had you actually watched Inoue's fights you'd know that. How many times has Crawford fought outside of the U.S.? Once. So even based on your inaccurate, biased opinion, Crawford doesn't come close to Inoue. But of course, instead of expecting Crawford to win back the P4P status with more inspiring performances, or for that matter, by fighting outside of your home country like Inoue has, I'm sure you'll just change your standard for P4P and find more excuses for Crawford.

[@ebenade1]

​@@akikozu7444"Crawford doesnt come close to Inuoue" YDKSAB

[@akikozu7444]

@@ebenade1 1) I think you meant to say "Inoue doesn't come close to Crawford", not the other way around, 2) Try spelling "Inoue" correctly, 3) YDKSAB? LOL I'm not the one that defined the benchmark for P4P by stating that it's important to fight outside of your country, 4) Learn to read, 5) Learn to debate.

[@shortsassy5983]

Love You!! ❤

[@boredboxing]

😯

[@tanpham762]

It shows that Inoue is a better champion because he doesn't care about the P4P title. Crawford is too naive to get himself drawn into this debate! He should concentrate on fighting his next opponents.

[@renogos117]

PBC had the opportunity to make Crawford really great by making the fight he called for right after his win against Spence -> Charlo. But, PBC supported Charlo going up to fight Canelo in a one=sided beat down and getting stripped. The fight with Crawford disappeared. PBC ended up diminishing both fighters in that decision.

[@boredboxing]

Yeaaahhhh but Charlo also had the opportunity to fight a more competitive fight and make that seem more interesting regardless. Given recent news I’m glad Charlo is disappearing

[@Hakuna_My_Tatas]

Correction Errol Spence was NOT ranked at the time of the fight and was actually marked “inactive”. But after the fight thats when he’s rated ‘top 5’ Da fuq

[@ebenade1]

Sports Illustrated and even ESPN had him ranked as top 5 p4p in 2022, read up lol

[@Cons2911]

End of the day, everyone has their own #1.

[@boredboxing]

Exactly

[@FilippinoPasion]

If Crawford had fought one more fight, there wouldn't be any debate about him as FOTY. He could have fought anybody, because, Inoue had fought a week before Spence; why couldn't Bud have fought once more? Crowley, Stannionis, Boots, Thurman, Fundora, Harrison. He has so many options. And for anybody wondering about promotional issues, Inoue fought Fulton from PBC and Tapales from DAZN.

[@23bosskid]

Well said 💯

[@kawabunga6889]

Crawford is the one and only king of the ring 😊

[@Whatever-u5w]

I couldn't agree with you more.. Crawford fans need to give Inoue his credit and stop getting in their feelings!!! Yes! Crawford had a FLAWLESS victory over an undefeated P4P fighter - In such a way were it would be considered a case study (reference for future fighters to watch and learn from).. And i'm sure that even Inoue himself watched this fight multiple times to learn from it.. But that's NO WHERE NEAR as impressive as the last fighter Inoue beat - I mean come on !!!! he beat a 5 '4 filipino with 3 losses (2 of which were by way of KO)... Anybody with half a brain cell can see how Inoue deserves not only fighter of the year, but the rightful title as P4P #1 over Crawford.

[@boredboxing]

I can sense some sarcasm here 🤣 thanks for commenting my friend, hope you sub 🤝

[@sosbrigaders]

I personally got Crawford as #1 P4P but that’s just my opinion. But I understand why so many people think inoue is #1. Just because you credit one fighter doesn’t mean you’re discrediting another. Inoue is a MONSTER

[@teneldricisrael8777]

This is why some boxers don't do rematches because people use these moments to downplay what you accomplish

[@mitchlee3483]

Naoya is #/# Bud, u 35 and u do nothing on your better years.

[@wrmkyo]

Well said man 🎉👍

[@boredboxing]

Thank you my friend, hope you sub!

[@luism5574]

Nice, inoue fighter of the year, Crawford at #1 pfp definitely isn’t going anywhere

[@MarkyMark145]

accurate... Terrence's attitude has changed.

[@mr.stranger4951]

Crawford is #1 no doubt about it!!!

[@TmoneyOGGamer]

Just because he is in the lower weight class and most people don’t follow it, they try to discredit his opponents and say he beat nobody. Then how come it’s been decades before someone is undisputed. Fulton was on a lot of a lot of people’s P4P list, once Inoue beats him. He became a nobody. I find that very funny.

[@evolutionfarm479]

I couldn't say it any better.

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

He s the monster for a reason....Inoue don t talk on this...he only fight

[@ektran4205]

bud didn't say anything he was just answer a question

[@boredboxing]

Yeah I mean he could have just given props when answering though

[@ektran4205]

@@boredboxing its the toxic american fans and youtube channels who are putting words in his mouth

[@clubeyxander5132]

Didn't Bud say it on his account or something? Correct me if I'm wrong.

[@coletrick8748]

Crawford for me is #1. Two time undisputed, First to ever do it and fought everyone, And he murdered Spence! Inoue is great but he’s #2 for me.

[@cliffordhill2365]

Folks don't make a mountain outta a mole-hill on this FOTY stuff because it all comes down to a matter of opinion, they cannot fight each other and settle things.

[@bengolfs1]

And why would you disagree with Crawford getting stripped? He should have been stripped in the past as well. Did he grant himself "emeritus" status somehow, where he gets to keep his belt in perpetuity? Wake up. And he has done zero to deserve a big payday vs. Canelo. He is not a draw and deserves maybe a 3% or 5% split, if he's lucky.

[@boredboxing]

Definitely agree that his most probable and future fights like Ennis and Spence rematch aren’t going to be big paydays and that’s why he’s pushing for fights now before the buzz wears off. I didn’t agree with him getting stripped because the Spence fight had a rematch clause. Either way I appreciate you commenting and hope you sub! 🤝

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Maybe the crawford ego is too big...but is a special beast...inoue #1

[@burningknuckle26]

agreed

[@buckeyes8631]

Bro has the necessary chip on his shoulder,any man who gets in the ring with him is getting dominated.

[@bigchief6042]

I'm sure all you guys given Naoya all this credit for what he's accomplished and in such a short time has taking into consideration that Bud never been given those fast opportunities.

[@raider_reaper_4194]

Andy Ruiz comparison is accurate

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

I m big fan of Naoya but for me #1is a close decision...Crawford is a helluva fighter

[@Sizwen]

Now time is a factor? Now age is a factor? Now, being not active is a factor? Errol (accident) is a factor? What about his body of work ? Isn't he the 1st to reach the ×2undisputed milestone? I feel like none issues shouldn't be brought here. He should remain pfp #1 until he is defeated. Everything Inoue achieved (which is amazing) Crawford had already done. Nothing new. Maybe when he raises the bar a bit higher then there is something to talk about.

[@gf2390]

If Usyk beats Fury he is far ahead of these guys as p4p

[@libfit9068]

I think anyone who thinks Naoya is #1 p4p is clueless. Terence annihilating the #4 p4p and being the first to be two division undisputed cemented him as #1. Beating Fulton and Tapales (in less spectacular fashion) who dont even sniff the p4p rankings isn't enough to overtake Crawford. I guarantee if the Crawford Spence fight happened after Inoue beat Tapales, it wouldn't be a question that Crawford is #1. But recency bias is real.

[@flatbush70bucktown43]

You guys kill me.

[@andrewmatzo8167]

Crawford is right, he is the P4P with know questions. He has fought better competition, and has better skills than any other fighter out there

[@TmoneyOGGamer]

Inoue will definitely be FOTY in 2024 because you can’t be P4P from prison…lol

[@Rip-w8w]

Crawford just released a new book, it's called... Wah

[@JozaMan-t6n]

Dont disrespect ruiz like that you need to watch more boxing whiteboy

[@boredboxing]

I’m a fan of Ruiz I’m just calling it like I see it, thanks for commenting my man 🤝

[@shizuokanemoto9410]

Please, give Crawford this title, so stop crying like baby. Is sad to see a adult boxer crying like he does. No, is a shame.

[@kiLLinEmSoFTly]

P4P #1 Bud 2023 FOTY The Monster 2023 Trainer OTY Bill Haney/Shingo Inoue 2023 'Performance OTY' Bud vs Spence. Bud doesn't need to fight Ennis imo This also isn't "The Bud Era".

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Trainer is bomac

[@kafelaroux504]

Crawford became 2x undisputed first

[@Agenthoneydew33]

Yea crawford is definitely being delusional and so are his fans. Crawford should have responded to Boots mandatory which could have given him leverage for people saying he's p4p #1

[@bigchief6042]

No, your delusional to think Bud doesn't deserve fighter of the year. First, he was the first fightet to accomplish two time undisputed and look at all the road blocks he had to go through to get there. And despite how one sided the fight with Spence appeared, Spence was ranked in the top 5 in all undisputed list.

[@stefano9731]

I personally think that Inou has fought the better competition. I know that is not a popular opinion but I think that has to do with some bias because Inou is coming from lower weight classes and because his opponents have less name recognition in the eyes of the American public. However a deep dive into their respected opponents and Inou has defeated a total 13 World Champions. Out of those 13 champions he defeated 4 of them still went onto become world champs again. Crawford defeated a total of 10 world champions. Out of those 10 champions he defeated 2 of them still went onto become world champs again. Currently, Inou has 1 former opponent who is currently a world champ. Crawford has none. Also look at how many guys Inou defeated who who were in the midst of defending their title multiple times before Inou targeted them and took them out. (Adrian Hernandez, Omar Narvais, Jaime McDonell, Stephen Fulton). Crawford on the other hand defeated 2 fighters who had multiple defenses to their names (Ricky Burns and Spence)

[@truthbetold9498]

Crawford is p4p #1, y'all want anybody but a black man to be #1, fact is he destroyed him, not beat him.

[@boredboxing]

Definitely a performance of the year for sure, but it’s two belts vs one imho

[@boredboxing]

@_starbull7 one fight vs two fights for belts in one calendar year. It’s easy to accept.

[@JAFrk]

@_starbull7 You think first means anything? Nope, it's about the way it's done. What a cry baby, making up all of these parameters so you can give your bruised ego a W. You have one guy who goes up one weight class, goes undisputed in 2 fights in 6 months, vs one guy who did it in 5 years. Quit being upset.

[@motsy15]

Bud has been my favorite fighter for a few years but the way he’s been acting lately turns me off. He’s not p4p #1 even though I think Bud is a better boxer than Inoue. The combination of speed and power that Inoue possesses is just different. Little guy can literally knock out any human he hits with a solid punch. And he’s faster than all the big guys. Seems clear

[@blee3509]

I seen the Crawford highlights. He takes a lot of wide hook punches. Inoue will have jab him or straight punch before the hook will land. Inoue is the better fighter.

[@diegodinero9419]

If inoue was the 2nd boxer to be undisputed in 2 different weight classes who was the 1st? Terrance Bud Crawford give the man his respect

[@boredboxing]

We’re talking about 2023 though

[@boredboxing]

I appreciate your comment though my man, thanks for checking out the video regardless 🤝

[@iamapigeyedtraitorthatisin1319]

Inoue did it way faster than Crawford and inoue is a 4 division champ!!! Give inoue HIS respect!!!

[@cacogenicist]

Inoue KOed 3 champs from Dec 2022 to Dec 2023, and in the year 2023, he KOed _TWO_ unified champs. A guy who started his career at 108 wrecks everyone at 122. That's P4P, and that's fighter of the year for 2023.

[@sr2340]

Haha what a stupid statement.

[@etolbert5799]

You lost me when you compared 2 time undisputed champ Terence Crawford to Andy Ruiz 🤦🏾‍♂️ maybe I missed something but I never heard Bud disrespect Inoue. I heard him make his case for why he feels he should be FOTY. What is he supposed say? "I'm not the best fighter in the world." Honestly, he did what Inoue is doing right now. Beating everyone convincingly. So to act like he's crazy for saying he's the FOTY is wild. Plus if you've followed him, you know he feeds off doubters. I guess it's how he stays hungry. The man has an everlasting chip on his shoulder. So this isn't surprising to me. I'm not saying his or isn't p4p number right now but of course he can make a case for it. So can Inoue and Haney

[@teneldricisrael8777]

Bro WTF is you talking about 😂 keep them coming or did you forget Bud is still undefeated?

[@bradleyscott6183]

Crawford....fight boots.....after you beat Spence for the 2nd time.

[@quantruong9078]

Crawford fought a brain dead spence and he wanna claim greatness😂😂😂😂

[@Cons2911]

I love bud, slso inoue. But inoue did more imo.

[@TitoAranda-md9ro]

Its canelo era crawford a cry baby in twitter commenting and arguing eoth fans about it he always in his feelings cant wait for canelo to humble him.

[@wayneraleigh2822]

When Inoue beats Spence then maybe but who has the best resume people are really on a hate Crawford train the guy is on the verge of beating Mayweather's record Inoue has not even had a single fight in the US because he don't want to be drug tested randomly so I guess that puts him up for fighter of the year

[@sethjr.2694]

So Inoue has to move up 5 MORE DIVISIONS to be considered PFP1? You do realize how absurd what you're saying is. Inoue did fight in Vegas and California, with different tests, rules, and hand wraps but the same results, He dominated all. Check your facts before hating.

[@adrianmariuscracana7035]

Another brotha who never saw a fight below 135... How can you post something before check some facts ?

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Oh man...are you serious???

[@DavidHuston]

Liar

[@leonardomoore1868]

Inoue fans don't bring up the no testing in Japan and will not fight outside Japan.😂😂

[@mubarekabdul86]

PfP is about skill not bat fight three or four times ayear.... crawford skill unmatched in any division.......

[@pin5686]

u obviously never watched inoue fight.

[@ebenade1]

​@@pin5686Crawford would dog Inuoue at the same weight class. His ring IQ is greater and his techniques is more refined

[@pin5686]

@@ebenade1 crazy...inoue is by far the superior boxer. ring iq, techniques, intelligence ahead of crawford.. crawford wouldnt even have a chance. INoue is a generational talent. crawford is just a hype up fighter beating other hypefighter. u have to understand american boxers are self proclaim great boxer..the real talents are on foreign land with no politics. just straight hands.

[@ebenade1]

@@pin5686 I can already tell your knowledge of boxing is completely surface level lmao What technique does Inuoue have over Crawford? Defense? No. Counters? No. Adjustment to styles? No. He's only fought 2 undefeated fighters in his entire career, his competition is mediocre in comparison to so many others. He'd get destroyed against someone with the boxing skill of Crawford. It took him 10 rounds to take out Tabales

[@pin5686]

@@ebenade1 you dont have to be an expert at boxing to realize that inoue is better than crawford. And im pretty sure u are not a expert either for picking crawford. What technique does crawford have over inoue? its a no to every category u listed. He only fought 2 undefeated fighters his entire a career is because the fight game in the lower division fight eachother. They don't play that cherry picking game as like the higher weights. everyone is trying hold on to there 0 by avoiding eachother. You probably think just because crawford fought bigger names makes him better than inoue. That is the very reason why he is not better than inoue. The division is bought and sold. American boxing is rigged. There is no true fighters in that class. American boxing is about preserving that 0 and promoting those fighters. Inoue comes from a different cloth. He fights the best in his division. No need for promotion, just straight hands for everyone. Crawford is an ok boxer but is no where near what the fans are putting him out to be. Inoue in the other hand is gettting recognize by not his promotion but i his boxing skill. Your are very misinform my friend. Lower divisions are way more skilled than the higher division. There is no fake hypejobs down there. If that is not obvious to u then we gonna be debating forever.

[@Ozzy4747]

P4p #1 literally means, if Inoue was the same size as Crawford, would Inoue beat him. The answer is no, Inoue would not beat him. Therefore by that standard Crawford is p4p #1

[@pin5686]

inoue is more skilled than crawford. INoue would win hands down. therefore inoue is p4p1

[@Ozzy4747]

@@pin5686 By beating Tapales he becomes #1 p4p, doesn't make sense. Fighter of the year is even a stretch but acceptable, but trying to put him above Crawford is just the haters.

[@pin5686]

@@Ozzy4747 Tapales holds belts. Just because he is not popular in the states doesn't make him a true champion. Fighter of the year is more than acceptable. beat the two best in the weight class. he basically max out the division 1 year. u cant get any better than than that. Crawford did not max out his division for 100 years. how can u even compare. putting crawford above inoue is plain ignorant.

[@Ozzy4747]

@@pin5686 It's not about popularity. There was an active 8 division world champion competing in the same division that Spence and Crawford were in. Some of the best fighters in the world were campaigning at 147, arguably the best p4p fighter of all time was competing at 147. It's about SATURATION. Go on boxrec, see how many flyweights/bantamweights there are in the world, and then do the same thing and tell me how many welterweights there are in the world. There you go.

[@pin5686]

@@Ozzy4747 that 8 division champ is popular. also that division are full of popular fighters. why? its all about popularity. its a glorified division not because of its greatness but because of the fighters that are self promoting and cherry picking.

[@aNUGGET]

You sound foolish when the reason you give for inoue being #1 is that he is a 2 weight undisputed champ. Bud is an undefeated 2 weight undisputed champ as well, so it sounds like you don't know what you're saying. Crawford 100% is number 1. Inoue is an unbelievable fighter and def #2, but Bud is undoubtedly #1. People who actually know boxing can see the truth. Crawford has been #1 for real for a while now and has just been ignored.

[@boredboxing]

365 days, two weight divisions, 2 belts.

[@Anthony11qq]

Wtf are u talking about? Deontay Wilder fights people 50 lb heavier then himself. Inueo is about 20 pounds smaller the crawford and would get smashed. End of conversation

[@andrewsimms2731]

dude log off seriously, stop watching boxing it's not for you

[@jay-tonicsatherapper6171]

You're a hater my Guy, no way Spence wins against Crawford plus you can never take Crawford off P4P when he never drew or lost a fight

[@krisrogers9656]

Crawford is extremely disrespected. But ok.

[@DJTomTom316]

Crawford will be to old like Doniar

[@sonnynguyen9103]

Bud Crawford has become a crybaby. On the other hand, Inoue only focus on collecting belts.

[@AlessandroUlcigrai]

Inoue isn t interested in this talk...he s only very focus on your carrer

[@TOrganic]

It’s funny because I noticed that theirs been a lot of casual fanboys making KZbin channels about Inoue being P4P#1. At this point who cares. Respect to Inoue, but at the end of the day we all should know who is the real deal…

[@boredboxing]

Inoue earned it just like Crawford STILL had performance of the year. Just needs to fight more than once a year

[@TOrganic]

Ok Mr. Sport fanatic. 🥴🥴🥴

[@ya_got_cooked]

yes, and thats inoue

[@marsflee3815]

There are too many good fights for Bud that have not happened. You can't be P4P number one and haven't fought all those top guys, boxing fans will not put him up there until he defeats those top guys. Yes, he beat Spence, who was a good P4P fighter, but Spence was fighting the top guys. Bud can't be number one while ducking Ennis, Virgil, Stanionis, and many others., He is top dog, but not THE top dog. By the way, that title of P4P belongs to Canelo even with two defeats in his record, Canelo is still the man because of his many high risk and high profile fights. Bud has only two at welter- very poor showing.

[@anthonyjackson3366]

You sound like a hater 😂😂