Crawler Canyon Presents: Brazin Scale Frontline (conversion chassis for Vanquish Stance)

It's not a proper build series, and it's not a true Quickview, so here it is in all of it's long-winded glory. Some assembly, some mistake-making, some fiddling about-- but I think we got there. From box of parts to wheelin' in one video, so that's pretty good. Though it does help to have watched the July 12 livestream, if only to watch a grown adult confused by simple arithmetic for a few hours.
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[@richpeacock5768]

Thanks for the heads up on the D tuning of the vrd carbon. I will definitely try to get my hands on one before that happens. You can never have enough of a good thing😃😃😃

[@henryoak2001]

My biggest takeaway is don’t bother with a stubby kit and outruner unless you are going with a skid forward design. Vanquish did a great job engineering this truck to run with an inrunner.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Agreed on all points. The stubby is only for specific builds, like this one. The Fusion Pro remains the perfect partner for a VFD/Twin.

[@henryoak2001]

@@CrawlerCanyonI learned this the hard way, did the stubby conversion then spent two weeks tuning it to bring it back to near parity - this weekend I reverted it back to inrunner setup. It behaves much more predictably now. As far as battle id love to bring my Artful Dodgers Pathfinder by for a comparison.

[@RCRoads]

Very technical video. There sure is a lot to crawlers. Excellent video. 👍🏆

[@pleasuretek]

That glitching in your specific throttle band might be AM32 settings that control the change between sine (that slow slow we love) and normal mode. Try increasing the "sine Startup Range" in the AM32 settings to see if that moves that glitching up in the throttle band at least.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

That's good info to know-- but in this came, not my rig, not my radio, not my problem. He says he's going to replace the VT-1 with a Spektrum, so my interest in trouble-shooting it instantaneously dropped to zero.

[@gmummy]

Chrome-plated cheese! Lol, my new favorite saying! Thanks.

[@JC-Nor-Cal]

This guy is very promising.. looks like most capable comp rig to date...

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Well, as outfitted it's like $1,400, so it had better be good.

[@JC-Nor-Cal]

@@CrawlerCanyon whoa.. I guess so.. that's a pricey boy.. shhh rule number 2 of the canyon. Always whisper when it comes to the cost of our toys. Or risk sleeping on the couch for a while. Lol..

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@JC-Nor-Cal well, it started as a Stance, so that adds an extra $300 to the total right off the bat. There's like 40% of the rig left over. Probably more.

[@JC-Nor-Cal]

@@CrawlerCanyon no question... Besides the extra stance bits. What you have now is a good value for quality / capability per dollar and time spent..

[@theweldingone]

good video - cheers Mr C👍🏼

[@Steve_J81]

Not sure if you saw but the RC4GS is currently on sale for about $50 because of prime day

[@brazinBrett]

comparing the brazin frontline to the zoku as far as being a bolt on is apples to oranges. The flatline and hardline from brazin are direct bolt ons for the vrd/stance. otherwise great video, thank you for your support! And as i continue the video, having the stability without giving up any ground clearance, and in fact ADDING clearance under the skid is something we focus on a lot at brazin.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I didn't test the Flatline or the Hardline, did I? So me stating that the Frontline is not a bolt-on chassis is something I would call "accurate."

[@dkmgm2011]

Beast. There is no replacement for a skid forward chassis with good geometry.

[@Bonitacreekrc2]

12:44 redcat ascent links for the win😂 push the time.

[@JoskMclaren]

So is this a Diehard prequel?

[@Driver86421]

I'm trying to figure out what's left of the original Stance (more math!), and it doesn't seem like the initial $500 gets the discerning consumer much for their investment. I think this just hammers home the point that the VRD Carbon is the far better canvas for creating what you want.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Oh, never buy a Stance-- and by extension, the VRD straight kit and the VS4-10 Builder's Kit. They all offer catastrophically bad value. If you want a VRD Carbon, you'd better buy it soon, as I'm 99.9% sure it's going to get "detuned" to the same level as the awful straight kit pretty quickly.

[@chrism5768]

Glad I’m not the only one noticing the XHX pins sometimes are better than the S4. Overall I’m favoring the S4 pins 90% of the time. The 10% the XHX is better it’s noticeably better though.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I'm now seeing the S5 compound as Injora's version of Predator. It's not gonna like heat. But in the right environment, I posit that beats the XHX pin for the money, or even really comes close. You have to spend at least twice as much for similar performance. I'll still be running Comp Pins most of the time because, you know, the desert. Zero vehicles in the Canyon Fleet on Predator compound tires. I'd take S5 over Predator in a heartbeat-- same level of performance, same drawbacks, less than half the price.

[@michaellenheiser3157]

Pc3d “punks” makes sliders for all name brand aftermarket chassis.

[@theweldingone]

Brazin scale do the pacesetter rails for the Pro, would like to see that too

[@FaithSaraG]

Time for another this vs. that?

[@charleshurley8927]

how much stainless hardware do you have? when I can ever get to the post office to send you the ftx canyon, and the other stuff we talked about, I can throw in a assortment of stainless stuff, if you need.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Definitely less than what I have in black oxide. I don't buy screw kits, so my variety in M3 SS is about 1/3 of what I have in "regular" screws.

[@eligolovach2382]

Good old crack lmao, great video. Gonna get a set of those asap .

[@crawlercityrc]

morning gents😊

[@Dozern90]

That link jig, where could one find that? My googling is coming up short. A 3D printable version would be nice ^^

[@CrawlerCanyon]

I wouldn't bother to print one, as the one I use from RPM is usually $13-14. amzn.to/3SaCykq

[@Dozern90]

@@CrawlerCanyon no wonder I could not find one, I was googling link jig and what not.

[@theweldingone]

Brazin scale frontline vs pacesetter?🤷🏻‍♂

[@biggoodlookinfella]

Don't call me Shirley

[@JIPPERR_1]

WHAT HAPPENED TO SUSAN!?!?

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Sleeping in.

[@SamStevens-vo9xx]

Almost looks like an injora lcg chassis

[@HVT03]

That Stance is looking great. NEVER BUY A STANCE tho

[@SamStevens-vo9xx]

Yo

[@theweldingone]

please, sorry - forgot my manner's

[@JC-Nor-Cal]

How so?

[@theweldingone]

@@JC-Nor-Cal should of said please when I asked to compare brazin scale pacesetter on the pro to the brazin scale frontline on the stance - curious lol

[@theweldingone]

sounds like a lump

[@Stinkyj6443]

As you say...rig name's just fall into place....not sure your gonna like it but it should just be TCS...short for....well you know

[@richpeacock5768]

hardcore link ends hmm. I did not like them, 20 mins. of crawling oblonged my drag link on a new build.I do like the links them selves.

[@CrawlerCanyon]

Those are just Traxxas 5347s. Lots of folks use them. Sight unseen, I'd put drag link issue in the column of improperly set endpoints. The servo shouldn't be pulling on the rod end at stall.

[@richpeacock5768]

@@CrawlerCanyon endpoints are set properly, I did get in a small bind. But not enough to cause damage to a link end. If something won't move I typically stop and move my truck by hand. I am running 2.2 Mickey Thompson Pros, so that could be added into the issue. I appreciate all that you do for the RC community😃 I am also running a raw 500, they typically stall out before causing damage. I run raw 500s on all my Crawlers. I really like my Vanquish builds I have a rock Pirates Phoenix build no link issues . I also have a vrd carbon no end link issues. The rig that I am basing this conversation on is an OCD custom RC chassis. They are a father and son team building Universal chassis . I may have just gotten a bad one, but there are a lot of other inferior Parts out there that look the same. I will be interested to see if you ever have any issues of premature wear on your build.

[@themountain59]

"Hardcore" link ends are not Traxxas...just saying 😉

[@CrawlerCanyon]

@@themountain59 Seeing as the hands-down toughest rod ends out there are off of the TRX-4, your statement is utterly invalid.

[@richpeacock5768]

@@CrawlerCanyon I think at this point we should all just agree to disagree they may be 5347 but there isn't a single 5347 that comes on a Traxxas trx4. I could prove it if we could send pictures on KZbin . I have put my Vanquish trucks and my Traxxas trucks through much more and much worse situations than the hardcore links went through with zero problems going on a year and a half on Phoenix Rock pirate build no link issues. Carbon vrd no issues was lucky enough to get one on the first run . And I must follow this up with I do appreciate everything you do in the RC community and I know and respect that you know a lot about crawling. But there's no shame in admitting if you're wrong. And if it could be proven to me that I was wrong I would accept that.