CRAZY Discoveries From The NiGHTS Datamine!

[@dariattic]

Seeing people discuss their process&findings in the datamine channel is like watching a group of wizards casually dismantling some artifact of arcane knowledge.

[@DIVING_BELL]

true. i couldn't possibly do that unless it's a dta file and it's srb2

[@TheCanadianPuppeteer]

It’s wild watching this all happen in the NiGHTS into Dreams discord in real time, and actually too much to process so I’m glad this video series exists so that I can understand how mind-blowing these discoveries are.

[@PilloTheStar]

You got a link to that there nights into dreams server?

[@onthedre]

@@PilloTheStar same I have to join

[@prometheus5997]

@@onthedre yo me too!

[@polterbear5449]

It goes to show how devoted the community is that, in the absence of a new game, everyone is willing to put in so much work to plumb the depths of the original. Waste not, want not!

[@12MjrpmdS14]

You said it right there mate! EVEN A FAN-MADE MAGAZINE ABOUT NIGHTS IS GOING ON POPULAR IN THE NIGHTS COMMUNITY SINCE IT BEGAN IN MAY 2020!

[@DiGiValentine]

It's one major thing that i always loved about the NiGHTS community. During the many years that the IP remains dormant, the fans step up and keep it active on their own. The fans have truly kept NiGHTS alive all these years.

[@GuukanKitsune]

Always remember: Nights is, in fact, also a Nightmaren. They are a FRIENDLY Nightmaren. But they are, in fact, a Nightmaren.

[@vegetafan9922]

I think the unused grinning faces of NiGHTS might have been for an unused idle animation where she would start making faces at the player if you leave her hovering for a bit like how Sonic will tap his foot

[@L0rdOfThePies]

Thats adorable ngl

[@JCOdrjones]

Honey wake up, DiGi released a new video on NiGHTS datamined content!

[@loziclec.1295]

I'd been thinking of making a NiGHTS into Dreams iceberg for fun, but with how much we're learning recently, it would feel incomplete in no time.

[@aortaplatinum]

You can start filling it out with stuff we already know, leaving room and not posting it until the miners have laid literally everything bare from these builds.

[@loziclec.1295]

@@aortaplatinum I'm also debating including some Journey of Dreams stuff, like The Great Mother. I'm pretty sure nobody cares enough to mine JoD, but I'm not sure if people want JoD stuff on a NiGHTSberg.

[@ikagura]

@@loziclec.1295 Journey of Dreams is a part of the franchise tho. Unless it's an iceberg dedicated to Into Dreams

[@DiGiValentine]

I'd say give the datamine a few more months to let them dig further, just in case anything else crazy pops up, and then go from there. I mean, i'm trying to document the findings as best as i can but every time i start writing a script another bunch of discoveries happen, lol. Sometimes, newer discoveries provide answers for older discoveries, which then requires rewriting and organising entire parts of one section. Maybe work on an iceberg slowly, keep track of the datamines updates, and when it looks like the dig has finished you can commit to making a full-scale iceberg. That's my advice, anyway.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

The Crewle into Gillwing theory could also tie further into the earlier mentioned "Nightmaren laying eggs" scrapped idea, which would get into even further Pokémon territory.... Before pokemon itself introduces the concept of eggs and breeding into its games. Wild

[@AlessandroSchiassi]

Which it was later re-used for Chaos in Sonic Adventure...

[@DiGiValentine]

I mean, i'm mostly just having fun with that silly Gillwing evolution theory. The connections are a stretch but i thought they were interesting to mention. If it ever turns out to be true though i'll be VERY surprised, lol. But i'm not banking on it.

[@ibilesfighter3.16]

Not gonna lie, you had me with the first half of Selph. Legit thought it was a real person with controversy.

[@JamesSmith-vn6vi]

same here i legit almost had a heart attack

[@ikagura]

Everytimes Digi talks about Nights I get blissful.

[@Knightblade64]

Holy heck this has gotten insane. I cant wait for what comes next in this datamine

[@ShadowDurza]

THEORY TIME What if Elliot and Clarice both had their own version of Selph? The more Jester-like emblem would correspond to Elliot, but the unknown emblem seems vaguely feminine with the curling parts.

[@SpaceManRD]

The sharp teeth are a cute touch, given Nights _is_ still a Nightmaren and would retain some monstrous traits like the others.

[@RabbitEarsCh]

I was hoping you'd say something like "there's no way we're going to find Selph" so that in two weeks you'd be forced to post a video talking about how you found Selph. Thanks for the updates again. It's super exciting to see how this is all coming together.

[@DiGiValentine]

Damn. I should have ended the video with that, lol.

[@chaoticneutralsheep]

12:27 The emblem on the door looks like a Nightopian, the teardrop head, body and the wings. I wonder if there was originally plans to make an area for Nightopians but due to limitations at the time it was scrapped. The team went on to make the Chao island in Sonic adventure 2 which is pretty similar to the concept, Nights JOD lends to that theory because there's a door that takes the player to the Nightopian garden, similar to the Chao's so it all went full circle.

[@basicmountaingriff]

I like the theory that just because of the narrow neck and pointy head on different parts of the door, the blue door was supposed to be the secret entrance to fight Self

[@louche2388]

I've been very interested in the creepy sharp tooth grin since NiGHTS is after all supposed to be a nightmare creature

[@onthedre]

4:00 that hat is probably from beta NiGHTS design. NiGHTS probably would’ve been a live based game before getting scrapped, which makes sense due to its arcade like nature.

[@onthedre]

I wrote this before letting him finish the sentence lol

[@guardianeye1918]

You know, you could also make a Pokémon evolution line with Clawz: 1º Stage: The cats that Bomamba uses in her battles 2º Stage: That early design of Clawz where he was a round red cat 3º Stage: Clawz

[@BboyDrMadison]

The Gillwing tadpole thing, just blew up my entire childhood.

[@beckab4726]

With every new addition to this data mining series DiGi slowly descends into madness.

[@lovingfool2060]

Bro can I just say? Thanks for repping our fav jester so long

[@SymbioteMullet]

What a wonderful time to be a NiGHTS fan!

[@lizardfishbird]

I feel like it’s worth noting that the metal spirals on the blue door and orange structure seem to pretty closely match the spiral “horns” on the unknown character emblem

[@ericselim254]

"The character was never meant to be a clean cut hero like Sonic but rather more of an antihero with a rebellious and carefree nature" So rather than being like Sonic, NiGHTS was meant to be like Sonic? =P

[@PixelPalettes]

Honestly the entire Blue Door segment made me think "This is the only fandom that can focus on parts of a door while datamining this hard and still have me captivated"

[@TheHoboPig]

I love watching the discord server finding new things, we've sure have gone a long way from this whole datamine, glad to see NiGHTS getting some attention thanks to this hopefully we can find more lost things and for me personally I must see if the crazy bastards find Selph, can't wait for your next vid!

[@Thedragonlover95]

Indeed and by god is this awesome!

[@charleschamp9826]

Every time new info about NiD data mining comes out it's like a sweet mix in holy night.

[@verdeurie8650]

That grinning NiGHTS is gonna haunt my nightmares for sure.

[@SixStringsGeek]

wild theory 06:34 is Selph. Right there there's unused face texture and unused model for a character that most likely looked the same as NiGHTS.

[@SonicStation]

It is amazing to see all of this getting uncovered! I have recently been exploring a lot of Nights Into Dreams thanks to this series and I love it! I have recently found some interesting Nights Flash Content along with a GBA version of it. I am going to release them soon in my channel but if you are interested in any of these I can send them all to you ;)

[@12MjrpmdS14]

It would be shockingly epic if you are fortunate enough to score a real physical GBA handheld and the NIDSA GBA Mini Game, which would absolutely render my emulator advice useless lmfao! OpenEmu and it's download link is also safe to use since I virus scanned that thing too many times which always came out clean.

[@ikagura]

The ram game from Billy Hatche

[@EllisWarren]

Yes DiGi what a video!! Enjoyed this at 3am after getting a new HS on Christmas NiGHTS. It’s such an exciting time right now, I’m watching the Discord in absolute wonder at the skill and discoveries from everyone involved. Cannot wait for your video on Selph. Keep up the top work geezer

[@Really_Zahren]

Those emblems/heads at the end definitely interest me... The one with the curved "horns" definitely resemble Reala, but it also resembles the "More NiGHTS" icon from the official NiGHTS into dreams website. The other one doesn't look like anything out of NiGHTS, but does somewhat resemble Lumina Flowlight from Sonic Shuffle (though it's missing the "bumps" on the sides of her head). Given that Lumina already has a very NiGHTs-like design (and the fact she gets replaced with NiGHTS if the date is set to 24/12) it makes me wonder if the character design for whatever that second head was from was shelved and eventually used for Sonic Shuffle

[@Hell_Soll]

this is bloody insanity!!! I'm just sitting here yelling WTF over and over again!!! can't wait for the next video about Selph 8D

[@SuperMario152]

The man returned.

[@kennylauderdale_en]

(muffled Yuji Naka Screaming in the background)

[@arran4285]

Funny seeing you here

[@ikagura]

Naka shouldn't matter anymore

[@arran4285]

Wouldn't it be funny if by the time the Selph video come out Selph was found

[@GigglyMan42069]

And here i am just glad to be a part of it.

[@paulolorenzo3522]

I was watching this video with subtitles and at 14:00 Digi said "Beta Ideya Capture", but in the substitles, it was "Beta Idiot Capture" and I bursted out of laugh. LMAO

[@popculturepausescreen1522]

Thank you for all your work as well to this project Digi Valentine, cataloguing what they have found and collecting them in video form. That is also fantastic.

[@ikagura]

Night's smile with pointy teeth is both scary and cute.

[@12MjrpmdS14]

I bet ma dam money if those NIDS Dataminers found many facial animations of all the nightmarens both in game and scrapped!

[@ikagura]

@@12MjrpmdS14 Nights is a nightmaren right? Or is it a retcon from Journey of Dreams?

[@12MjrpmdS14]

@@ikagura Its already canon that NiGHTS is a Nightmaren, even a cutscene in Helen's story in NJoD clearly stated that NiGHTS is a Nightmaren. The specific cutscene where Reala reveals NiGHTS being a nightmaren though he did twist some of the truth since Reala never mentioned that NiGHTS rebelled against Wizeman though, whether he knows it or not at all.

[@MihariofMabinogi]

Maybe it's just my vision screwing with me, so you're welcome to mark this off as nonsense. But when the camera's spinning around Elliot at about 13:57-13:58, the light blue part of the door starts to turn from light blue to pink before going off screen. If it is tied to the house, maybe it was programmed to slowly turn orange after certain goals are met?

[@shinkenger2011]

It makes me so happy people still care about NiGHTS

[@AnimatedAF]

The return of Salad Plains, I can't believe it.

[@12MjrpmdS14]

Soft Museum, Squish Ruins, lmao!

[@natecronnon4736]

Hot damn! More dev notes this is amazing I hate to see what's in Sonic jam and other Saturn games that had never got a good scan of their assets

[@MidniteAndBeyond]

Before watching video: It seriously feels like its only a matter of time until they find Selph. After watching video: OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@GremmarYT]

I hope so, I'm excited

[@DiGiValentine]

lol, well, i need to remind you that we haven't found him, but it is the closest we've ever been. So, unless something major happens between now and the next video, Selph is still 'undiscovered' in the traditional sense. Fingers crossed, i guess ~

[@MalanTp]

You guys are freaking mad, I can't believe how far we got in such a short period of time, what the hell? Awesome video DiGi, and as a Nightopian nerd, I absolutely aprove your Crewl evolution theory! Regarding the objects you call "the doors", have you notice that the old Ideya Capture is right between those objects? Maybe the Ideya Capture appears from those doors or something like that, such as, doing some task to make it spawn or something? Just a theroy of course. Anyway, terrific job to everyone involved!

[@GremmarYT]

Whoa it's malan!

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Data miners moving faster than a drill dash

[@SparkleWolf404]

Funny you mention it, the datamine channel actually used to be called "drill dash"

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@SparkleWolf404 talk about making a destined comment lol

[@mikedangerous3224]

Dude this video coming out on my birthday is such a crazy treat. I honestly never thought we would see this amount datamined content for NID. Makes me happy knowing how strong that fanbase is. Have we looked at Christmas Nights at all? Wonder what that could be hiding.

[@RaynbowistLaney]

If both of those emblems belong to Selph, I can see the second set of emblems to be Selph with a hood upon his head. If he does have horns like Nights and Reala, it may be a bit of a stretch to say it's a hood, but I just thought it would be interesting to say.

[@itsgab5745]

It could be possible the hood is horns shaped facing down and curved while having a third horn or gem on the head. It kinda looks a bit Egyptian and feminine.

[@DreamyImagination101]

It is SO HARD not to scream in excitement right now! This is absolutely AMAZING news! I can't wait to hear about more discoveries on the project! 😃 Oh my gosh I hope we get more Selph data. That would be absolutely extraordinary! :)

[@mistermike4023]

20:06 Okay, I think I just had a massive epiphany regarding what these head icons were for. So a little bit ago I was looking at some old concept art for the game when a particular image caught my eye: It was an early design for Claris that bore a different hair style than what ended up being used. This hair style looks very much like the second icon with the curled horns. And that's when it hit me: I don't think these icons had anything to do with Selph. Rather, I believe these icons were supposed to be used for the level select. With 4 heads per child, each with a different color, they'd fit perfectly as stage icons. Furthermore, other pieces of early concept art show NiGHTS with a single, whispy piece of hair growing out of their head. Combine this with the icons having what appear to be striped details on their horns, I think that, originally, NiGHTS was supposed to have different designs (at least for their head) depending on who they dualized with: The horned design we all know and love would be for Elliot, whereas the design with the curled horns would be for Claris.

[@fabillon7086]

the night speedrunning discord is also keepin an eye on everything here and its fucking WILD. god i love it.

[@kingkazma3246]

So many ideas both for Classic Sonic and NiGHTS might have bled into Sonic Adventure!

[@ikagura]

Like the pointy teeth?

[@itsgab5745]

I'm a sucker for deleted and cut bosses and characters. So, take your time on the Selph video, just know that I and probably a lot more are super excited to see it come.

[@blossom2198]

dang this nights datamine content is overflowing so much that it's like a broken dam with these crazy discoveries XD still though super excited and glad nights is getting the love by it loyal fans ( me included) I wonder what crazy discoveries are gonna pop up next? 😆

[@mq7wn]

when i was a kid playing nights it was something that nobody knew about or appreciated. it makes me happy cry to see so much effort love and TIME being put into the conserving and exploring of this game!!!!!

[@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709]

Has panzer dragoon been data mined? And panzer dragoon saga? Also I assume the sharp tooth nights model is used for a "cutscene" with reala wearing a fake head and costume of nights to scare the kids.

[@imaginaryinkorporated5935]

Apologies in advance for adding to the conspiracy board but after considering the possible connection between "Crewle" and Gillwing take a look at the aesthetic similarities between Hollows and Puffy....

[@12MjrpmdS14]

@ImaginaryInkorporated Good point too, I noticed how similar looking those little bird nightmaren are to her in color palette terms. :)

[@12MjrpmdS14]

I wonder if Sonic Team removed the Nightmaren eggs due to finding some ways to explain Wizeman's role? Like if Wizeman did not create the Nightmarens due to the fact that they are natural born eggs that are organically reproduceable then that could very much undermine Wizeman's overall presence and involvement as the NIDs' main antagonist.

[@guardianeye1918]

I personally was considering the Party enemy to "evolve" into Puffy. They don't like very similar, but it is mainly because Party is the only Third Level Nightmaren who has a fancy feminine design.

[@angrygarbanzo5436]

Pretty selphish of Selph to not show up for his boss fight; who does this guy think he is?!

[@PiroKUSS]

Shut up

[@kingnightmarevin]

Maybe he's just an introvert with really bad social anxiety?

[@acesartgallery9117]

My personal theory about the emblems was that they where meant for some kind of two player feature, that aloud you to race with your friends. One would be meant for whoever was playing Elliot and the other Clarice, that way the players wouldn't get confused by having two NiGHTS flying around the stage. The reason they appear in the collectable item data could be that there were more options for 2 player mode and they where apart of an item collecting challenge. They could have something to do with Selph, but if I had to guess, if the two player mode theory is correct, then Selph could have been some kind of Nightmaren Boss that reflected on the character that you played as. That would explain why the stripes are blue on one of them, that one would presumably belong to Elliot, resembling his blue hair. Perhaps in the 1 player campaign you had to also collect the emblems in hard to reach areas of the level, in order to unlock a boss fight with Selph. Or maybe it was like Sonic, where you needed a certain amount of items in order to enter a bonus level that Selph was the boss of. This all could be disproven within less than a month though, I'm really excited to see people finally take a crack on NiGHTS code and Saturn games in general! It feels like a decades worth of advancements have been made within less than a year and I can't wait to see more! Keep up the good work! ^u^

[@G.R_777]

12:30 that looks like a nightopian even has similar colors, maybe a scraped nightopian room

[@kyokugenryudisciple9349]

10:02 Not to go off topic but the way you lined up Crewle & Pole, Crewle, and Gilwing it’s like a line up of a Pokémon’s Evolution Line. Water, Water/Psychic, Dragon/Psychic Edit: 10:25 DAMNIT YOU BEAT ME TOO IT!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@guardianeye1918]

I personally think that Dragon/Poison would be better suited for Gillwing, mainly because of the spikes in his tail. But Psychic is an interesting choice too, given that he is a dragon from the Dream World.

[@mysryuza]

Somehow Selph always fascinated me after reading about them from the wiki. The concept seemed interesting to me. I was inspired to make my interpretation of the character like some other fans.

[@ZeronineOhNein]

Great video! Keep up the good work

[@DiGiValentine]

Thanks, man! YOU TOO!! ~

[@eunaoseibrother467]

that fucking grin scares me holy shit

[@caffeinatedchamomile]

12:40 Doesn’t the swirly pattern on the middle of the “door” kind of look like the hood thing from the unidentified emblem render? The one that they found with the Reala/NiGHT’S emblem render? Is it possible that the emblem render isn’t a character but a structure or that the door maybe has a connection to the character depicted in the emblem? Maybe a stretch but they both have a shiny rock thing in the middle of their “head” although that doesn’t mean much Maybe the door was somehow connected to whatever character the emblem is depicting, before they and the door were scrapped? Definitely not Self but maybe another character that would maybe be an oracle or something not affiliated with a boss fight

[@12MjrpmdS14]

Yeah DreamDragon27! :D LET ALSO SEE WHAT THINGS ARE HIDDEN IN NJOD TOO! Like holy dam krap, this NiGHTS Datamining Series got me much more hooked in seeing and supporting its progress! And I watch this while I'm drawing a random fanart of Wizeman, dam I wanna see more of this datamine to progress! :) Can't really wait for that new video in the future, Also at that rate, I believe that Digi-V would end up having a live stream of the NiGHTS Datamining if progress is growing way too fuk up fast for him too keep up to even bring up multiple videos. Anyways Happy advance New Year Digi Valentine! :D

[@otaking3582]

The thing on the door looks like a Nightopian. Maybe the door was to access a proto-Chao Garden / My Dream area instead of looking at Nightopians in a gallery menu?

[@TheFoxFromSplashMountain]

I'd love to see JoD datamined. Seeing 'new' NiGHTS content in the 2020s is insane and I'm absolutely here for it.

[@LunDruid]

What I wonder is, given how much we're finding and learning, not just about NiGHTS but also about Saturn games in general, what that could mean going forward. Like, could all this potentially lead to cracking the Saturn open fully so its weird secrets are fully revealed? Might it be possible using this data to somehow create tools to not only mod these games with new content, but also potentially create homebrew Saturn games? Maybe I'm thinking too grandly here, but maybe the Saturn's true time to shine is yet to come.

[@DiGiValentine]

Well, there is currently a SEGA Saturn homebrew scene, and fans have been developing games for the console for a while now. I know PandaMonium done a video on some Saturn homebrew titles a year or so ago, so check that out. In regards to NiGHTS' own reverse-engineering, this could be the beginning of the modding scene. We might see full publicly released model editors, or custom map editors, or maybe even full-scale fan games. If progress like this continues then who knows what the community will eventually be capable of. Honestly, it's a GREAT time to be a fan of the Saturn right now.

[@BlazeHedgehog]

If I had to guess, the eggs were probably to show a hybrid pian had been created, and they were cut for memory reasons. Every byte of texture data counts on a console like the Saturn.

[@BBWahoo]

420 blaze some speed

[@Duck_Allen]

Sega is chill with fan projects and making them official maybe we could get a perfect remake plus more like sonic mania

[@GremmarYT]

one can dream

[@randomdude581]

Dude as soon as I saw the unused Crewle sprite, my brain immediately thought “that looks like a smaller gillwing!” Also, the unused collectible sprite that looks like NiGHTS’ hat kind of reminds me of the NiGHTS-esque hat in Billy Hatcher that lets you walk on top of eggs.

[@mrdreamy1747]

I think 2022 will be a good year.

[@frankbrocker2963]

this NiGHTS/sega saturn datamine train is getting crazy, im gonna have to keep a closer eye on it. gives me an actual reason to use twitter! PS: this is unrelated, but im not sure sonic counts as "clear-cut hero".

[@SymbioteMullet]

He's just a hedgehog who loves adventure!

[@frankbrocker2963]

@@SymbioteMullet he is what he is!

[@DiGiValentine]

Maybe 'clear cut' was a poor choice of words on my part. Essentially, what i meant by it was that Sonic is considered to be a hero with attitude, but definitely a 'hero'. Sonic's entirely focused on saving others and is purely committed to his role as a hero. NiGHTS on the other hand isn't a hero at all but one of the 'enemies' who is so free-spirited and mischievous that they rebelled their role as a villain purely because they liked having their freedom. Sonic will save somebody for selfless reasons, where-as NiGHTS will help someone but tends to initially want something else in return (namely, freedom from their prison). But anyways, it was a poor choice of words and it didn't convey what i meant clearly. My bad.

[@frankbrocker2963]

@@DiGiValentine I see what you mean now. If I made it sound like it was something more serious than it really is, that's my bad as well, I just thought I'd point it out since I wouldn't consider Sonic the same kind of hero as Mario for example, who tends to have very little characterization outside of his heroic deeds. Sonic is more nuanced, always following his own code and doesn't care which side is "right" in the end, choosing the side he's on for himself (although unfortunately, this aspect of his nature as a hero is all but forgotten about now.) I do think that it's really interesting how NiGHTS contrasts Sonic as a character, though, sharing many similarities but showing them in different ways. It's something I'll always respect about old Sonic Team's character design. It's a shame the way they've turned out now.

[@kacecrimson8297]

DiGi "you're not gonna believe what we found" Starlight "Hold my ideya"

[@leilaclarridge5807]

We could actually mod NiGHTS into Dreams! How exciting!

[@ouroboreas]

it's crazy, i literally just started playing nights into dreams this week 👀

[@mc.gemstone]

The amount of unused content shows how much there was gonna be in this game. I had no idea there was this much hiding in the game. The lore is deep and vase within this game.

[@isabelfranqui5784]

15:31 It's look red and orangeish yellow hat door House. Maybe is where u can make nightspots and dreamterror hybrids.

[@karlhnedkovsky5214]

You guys are poppin' off! This is amazing!

[@Thedragonlover95]

I swear there are fans that would love to see these, Please if anyone who knows away to make these work, Please make a NiGHTS fan game! If Sega wont do it

[@JudgementSkull]

10:26 I literally got a Pokemon ad after that

[@Leon-oo4ei]

Selph, huh? Interesting it sounds so much like self (duh), so every time you mention "finding selph" it sounds like soul searching

[@WhiteCresentKnight]

My headcannon form for Sleph has always been that Seliph has no physical form and just copies other characters. But I am 100% READY to see Seliph~~

[@CrispyFajita]

This is cool but I always get an irrational fear/discomfort with seeing datamined assests like t posing or weird messed up areas. Like seeing a weird texture

[@themadmallard]

i bet the blue door was the path to each boss in early game dev, open once all stage routes completed

[@rossperk]

18:00 If Claris starts with the Salad Plain, should Elliot get the Thousand Island Plain? 🤣

[@aortaplatinum]

For some of this more confusing stuff, it might be good to straight up ask Naka and Ohshima themselves. Naka's very active on twitter and even liked a tweet I @ed him in asking if he was keeping up with the datamine. I just hope they actually remember everything, it HAS been nearly 30 years...

[@KetrinDarkDragon]

This has been suggested to do several times already, but the datamining team decided that we should ask the developers only after we dig out every possible unused thing from the game

[@12MjrpmdS14]

​@@KetrinDarkDragon I agree on this 1, because I do remember watching some the cancelled Sonic Xtreme Game via KZbin documentary and history videos about 1 of the programmers using the NIDS Saturn Game code for 1 of the Sonic Xtreme test build before and Yuji Naka who at the time was never tasked by SEGA for him and Sonic Team to create a SEGA Saturn Development Kit was furious at the said programmers for using it without permission ( supposedly due to the programmer not knowing that NIDS SEGA Saturn game code has some tight kind of copyright type of claim from Yuji Naka ). In short, yes we should be careful and a bit concerned as to how would Yuji Naka would react if he ever expressed it negatively which could unfortunately 1 of the worst case scenerios.

[@Wolfcat22]

12:27 I'll be honest idk anything about NiGHTS so this is probably completely irrelevant but the design on the door looks somewhat similar to the Flatwoods Monster with wings added onto it lol

[@xavierlime06]

Can't wait for people to mod this in the 2012 pc port.

[@supersonadowfan]

Really got me waiting for these to drop 💖💖💖

[@deahanraney8700]

6:45 6:57 stretchy smile

[@Paperdragon0337]

Here is my crazy theory after watching all these vids. The one thing I've seen that looks like the boss emblem for Self is whats on the blue door. The head shape appears to line up.

[@themeekwarrior]

The grin would have been an awesome idle animation! :D Maybe it didn't make sense to implement it because of the time limits on all the levels.

[@pieofchart]

That pouty face model do be looking cute

[@magnazero]

OKAY EVERYONE! it is now time for magnazero's wild randon theory speculation spectaculars supreme! not this is all shots in the dark and I'm only going on my archival memory of casually playing this game as a kid and collecting every issue of the nights into dreams archie comics and frome my experience from studding those comics from cover to cover for several years. Now hear me out on this but what I think those two heads are in fact... (dramatic pause here) are in fact Both proto-type heads of the boss known as selph and here is what I wish to show as my speculation: now nothing is known of what selph is or how the boss fight would have been like but now consider this! what if selph was a boss that had two different versions of itself depending on weather eliot or claris were fighting "it". now think of this If selph was a boss fight what if selph was a mirror powered up version of a kind of "shadow nights boss fight" where the character model would show a seamless fusion of nights/eliot and nights/clairis. like imagine this if fighting self as clairis you fight a male selph that was a more masculine looking nights that looks simial to the evil fairy from the sonic shuffle game and as elliot you would fight a fiesty female nights that resembled the good female fairy helper from sonic shuffle and further more to even that what if the style and assets used on sonic shuffle were heavily using ideas and dropped concepts from sonic shuffle hense why sonic shuffle always felt like to me to use the nights into dreams aesthetic without and sight of context or reference... this might be something to consider and I ABSOLUTELY felt commelled to share this line of thinking with you and this may help solve some mysteries about trails of possible connections to finding out more about who and or what selph might have actually ended up being used in sonic shuffle for the dreamcast and no one but me has ever pondered such things. one last thing to point out as well just because said possible characters may not have any connection or reference to "selph" in name or file names what if that was intentionally in the devolpers minds to do that so as to steer away anyone from making this kind of discovery at all? think on it please and I would truly love to see my wild outlandish theory might even hold water and be the puzzle piece you were hoping for all along so please bring this up to whoever you think might be able to shine much needed light on this mystery. and thank you for reading this long convoluted comment. happy hunting!

[@Name-Cannot-Be-Found]

I feel like you need to live stream this

[@captRhay]

9:14 wouldnt Pole be the name for the tadpole and not crewle?