Crazy Wisdom: The Life & Times of Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche -Trailer -Shambhala

[@DiegoRooks]

A great portrayal of such in an inspirational persona, Chogyam's trust in the inherent goodness of the self is vividly shown in this documentary. It's a story to have and see over and over again.

[@garywebb8039]

Having spent hundreds of hours with him, in his house and in seminars and retreats I never saw him out of control of his mind and in fact always was kind and decent and considerate. My only complaint is I wish we didn't have to meditate and study so much, but in hind sight I guess it was worth it. I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat! No hesitation!

[@donkeychan491]

People here are criticising his personal conduct since he doesn't seem to have abided by conventional moral rules, including those of Buddhism. But it seems from his writings that he saw compassion as the foundational energy in life: that as long as you act in accordance with this energy, free from the self-deceptions of ego, and guided by prajna (knowledge/precision), then you don't need to follow prescriptive moral rules. So maybe the superficial retelling and interpretation of some of his "embarrassing" or problematic life events is misleading - without knowing the full context, and his psychological state, we can't really judge him (or anyone else, for that matter). If you think differently or have anything to add then I'd be interested to hear your take given you met him personally.

[@Pryor44]

Not Being out of control of one’s mind does not mean he was any kind of Devine anything. He sounds like a garden type fake. How would you describe his actions? There are plenty of people in prison with less baggage than he had. Desperate for...................???????

[@enokidake]

@@Pryor44 Agreed. He died from being a drunk and left a man in his place that would go on to infect a dozen people with AIDS. Looking at the admiration people still have for him is mind boggling.

[@jasonburnes8112]

@@Pryor44 you won't find any humans on earth without dark sides and mental issues...the difference with chogyam trungpa is that he didn't hide any of those sides.

[@socraticproblem86]

Trungpa was crazy. I like crazy in my friends. His wisdom is excellent. Whether or not he slept with his students the man walked the path. Must watch this movie.

[@Olivieryoming]

Enigmatic, powerful, honest, and deeply irreligious, he sought to teach what lays beyond forms, no wonder he offended so many, read further comments, but his teaching endures to this day.

[@ianoian1]

Forasmuch as I like Trungpa Rinpoche and admire his writings (I bought Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism years ago) and must question his lifestyle, not as a Tibetan lama but as a Buddhist. The third and fifth Buddhist precepts are summed up here: The third precept, not to indulge in sexual misconduct, includes rape, adultery, sexual promiscuity, paraphilia, and all forms of sexual aberration. This precept teaches one to respect one's own spouse as well as those of others, and encourages the practice of self-restraint, which is of utmost importance in spiritual training. It is also interpreted by some scholars to mean the abstention from misuse of senses and includes, by extension, non-transgression on things that are dear to others, or abstention from intentionally hurting other's feelings. For example, a young boy may practice this particular precept by refraining from intentionally damaging his sister's dolls. If he does, he may be said to have committed a breach of morality. This precept is intended to instill in us a degree of self-restraint and a sense of social propriety, with particular emphasis on sexuality and sexual behavior. The last of the five Buddhist moral precepts enjoins against the use of intoxicants. On the personal level, abstention from intoxicants helps to maintain sobriety and a sense of responsibility. Socially, it helps to prevent accidents, such as car accidents, that can easily take place under the influence of intoxicating drink or drugs. Many crimes in society are committed under the influence of these harmful substances. The negative effects they have on spiritual practice are too obvious to require any explanation. I would personally add smoking within the bounds of this precept. Anybody viewing this video and reading my thoughts, please do not take it personally, I am only echoing the words of the ancient Buddhist teachings which issued from the Buddha himself.

[@TerrariumFirma]

His mind was wrecked by the most insane mind control cult ever known.

[@jackbassII]

If you crash a car when you're drunk, the message is "STOP DRINKING AND DRIVING AND PUTTING OTHER PEOPLE AT RISK."

[@rileydoe2629]

Pat Ennis couldn’t agree more..

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

But, hey, did you ever hear that famous song: "I´m only human" ?

[@openbuddhistforuminternational]

♥♥❤✿ Peace, loving kindness and wisdom without borders to all ••●●♥♥❤✿ Very interesting documentary about Chögyam Trungpa Rinpoche. We like his Dharma books : Cutting through spiritual materialism and others.

[@manyhumbles]

@manyhumbles - I forgot to add that all said it is only my little humble meaningless idea and have nothing other than my love of his books (especially spiritual materialism) and the fact that he kept succumbing to all the best and worst there was to offer. I also love the whole drunken joke shop thing because it is the essence of how our Universe makes us take notice. It is mythology for the ages.

[@swanra1]

He also died of alcoholism and appointed someone to succeed him that infected a lot of people with the Aids virus. He was human- not perfect. He left a legacy of thought that is enduring. I was at his funeral in Karma Cholling in Vermont. The Buddhists Rinpoches came from Nepal blowing horns. There were multiple rainbows above when his body was put in the stupa for cremation.I am not a Buddhist. I learned from him Shambala and more. He taught on many levels - about being human is to be divine.

[@kwixotic]

To a number of these Tibetan lamas or spiritual guides, just about any sort of behavior we in the West would be quick to condemn is NOT regarded as such but seen as a Tantric path that under the right circumstances would lead to Self realization or Liberation. However, being the Dalai Lama himself wasn’t exactly so enamored of such behavior in the case of Sogyal Rinpoche and possibly others, it’s likely he would also criticize Chogyal as well though I can’t say that for certain.

[@windhorsechannel]

Spiritual Materialism was his greatest message...

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

He went insane

[@miketurany2082]

Thank you for your video trailer. I have herd about this cat from pama c. recently I bought one of his books and decided to Google him was shocked to learn about a monk who drank on Wikipedia.I saw your video and it all maid sense. He was so human and what a human not that I will drink or take drugs or have per miscues sex but his life makes sense and brings meaning to me

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Why shouldnt any monk love booze/moonshine ? Thats exactly what famous HAN SHAN did with his friend in the monastery !

[@patrickmahoney]

Looking forward to seeing this movie :-) Looks excellent...... I can relate to it/him on so many levels. Thanks for this :-)

[@sanjtibet]

A great man, deeply misunderstood by the judeo-christian society he was trying to awaken. He showed us that to be completely human with awareness is akin to being divine. That Love, sex,the conscious living of ones desires will lead to a flowering of human consciousness. The way i see it, he showed us that even an addicted and alcoholic person can be an awakened one. How human, how deeply compassionate! The biggest problem with established religions is the idea of a Perfect God, which in turn has created a world where polarities are more and more in violent conflict with each other. I think Chogyam Trungpa's imperfections are what made him perfect. Hard to swallow for the morality spewing world at large.

[@GulfbeachMateo]

sanjtibet He had his guards strip naked and assault people including underage girls. Go fuck yourself

[@anonymousprivate116]

Very interesting teacher, I do Zen so more or less follow Gyobutsuji Zen Monastery and teachers like Shoryu Bradley but neat to learn outside of that.

[@maforo85]

Miguel Fernandez Sure believe that. Thats what they want you to believe. Fuck off close minded. Keep on believing nonsense.

[@kohkkniew5905]

Hard to swallow? Truth is in front of your eyes look how karma punish him. His retribution is a sign of karma. And yet u stay blind. U are attached because he made u feel good. Let go and abide by the nature state of your mind.

[@borizovskimilan]

Whatch "Amongs White Clouds" and this movie and tell me the difference.

[@ohheyjimmy]

If you're from the Hudson Valley region of New York, be sure to check out "Crazy Wisdom" at the Rosendale Theatre tomorrow night, 7:15 PM

[@Algernon7]

Thank you Pat the Bunny for exposing me to this man

[@enokidake]

He's exposed himself to plenty, so why not?

[@TheGuiltsOfUs]

HE IS OUT OF HIS MIND!

[@BipolarBowler]

I say the quickest way to enlightenment is to lighten up..

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

😁😁😁

[@kieronbrucedillon832]

He was a fu$&ing badass!, You go you badass! Belatedly!.

[@SerinaArlene]

Buncha haters round these comments. He was a rascal. How many thousands to millions of lives have you positively impacted with your teachings or services? Turn that critical lens on y'own damn selves. All our heroes are trash. And so are we.

[@janchup]

Kickstarter say the film is fully funded and more.

[@jvaish]

This the problem I have with Buddhisim; it's all essentially intellectual, unlike Taoism, which is more action/non-action oriented. The sex thing is treated as an intellectual/moral dilemma in these kinds of teachings when in reality it is about energy and nothing more. Mantak Chia does a great job talking about it from the Daoist point of view, although other teachings cover it as well.

[@PeterKoperdan]

From the little I know about Chogyam #Trungpa he seemed like quite an extraordinary figure who had great influence on people. However this #documentary does not do him justice. There is nothing Crazy there and there is no Trungpa power portrayed neither. In any case thanks for putting together the archival materials, it's good to see the glimpses of the rinpoche's life.

[@djborap]

Rinpoche doesn't look the same in any two videos or pictures - robes, suits, glasses, robes, haircut, expression. Probably that was a visual lesson on impermanence.

[@ParisLopezMarron]

"Mind can not see the reality; mind can see only its own prejudices. It can see its own projections displayed on the screen of the world" -Osho

[@SoileBlom]

Interesting...really!Kristiina

[@diligentlight151]

If were not the highest how can we know our judegment is true? ( In Judging Rinpoche Vidyadhara)

[@manyhumbles]

@asana1973 - good question and I bet he did love oreos too much - that's just it -does it matter what act/desire/compulsion is succumbed to since ego steals the helm&is gratified &validated while keeping the practice of self mastery at bay? It's all raw energy in the form of desire & true beauty for the making. Can you imagine the starring role that ego must have wanted in all that drama for someone with his desire and raw energy? Good stuff! Humility must be hard when you are idolized.

[@markworkman9680]

So good that Chogyam Trungpa was a misunderstood, complex, unfathomable, divisive and controversial figure. Had he been the squeaky clean, nice middle-class guru of Amercian fantasy his life and teaching would be clearly fake and utterly useless. Tantra rejects nothing. Samsara and Nirvana are one. Human life is at once terrifying and beautiful. It can't be sanitised no matter how hard we try. I suspect that's the point...

[@pape37]

"Aspirants who realize Self transcend lusts of the flesh such as alcoholism and sexual irresponsibility." And who told you that?

[@manyhumbles]

I was trying to understand why people allowed so much with Trungpa and it suddenly occurred to me that if one can't train or control all their demons then embrace them and make 'em pretty and make 'em dance and if that fails then make them as lucrative as hell. (he crashed into a Joke Shop Window and was party paralized) or I mean partly.

[@Desibeatnik]

eh he was human and therefore hypocritical. He made his disciples throw away their weed but he drank and smoked. I think there was a lot he didn't understand.

[@Blazin-yk4kz]

Lol there's a lot you don't understand

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

But hey thats soooooooooooo smart ! Creating a cult and smoke the dope the folks throw away - straight in y o u r direction - mabe with chillums and papers;P Same for Bhagwan: disciples/pupils of him throwing millions of bucks in his chamber :D

[@MysticOfTheSands]

Well, I'm not going to try and defend him no matter what. He did whatever it is that he did and now he's dead and that about sums it up. I did mean to give the man the benefit of the doubt, but I don't care enough to sustain any kind of debate. I favor the "professional distance" aproach: if you take someone as a mentor in any field (including the philosophical field), no sleeping with your pupil/mentor. Safer, sounder, less worthless trouble. Unless it IS a genuine relationship, which is rare.

[@tribelive9025]

most people have no idea about relationship is the problem. And they try and project their ideas of what sexuality does or doesnt do within relationship and then the judgement seems to just prove it. Which is all a facade. Sex can be many things and it doesnt need to be damaging, even though society has decided to shame sex, fear it, and shove it into the shadows.

[@tregomez1846]

will soeone please tell me what the name of the song is that plays at 4:18 - 4:50 PLEASE!

[@7within]

I accidentally browse on to this page LoL Who is he?

[@janchup]

When can I buy a DVD titled "Crazy Wisdom?" That is the question.

[@paulantschel]

Excuse me, does anybody know what's that song between 2:57-3:20 ???

[@TheKala321]

Where can I view the full documentary?

[@jvaish]

I see your point, but I have to say the whole "doesn't matter if you harm the body" is bullshit. There is no separation between the physical and energetic body; they are both energy, albeit energy "vibrating" at a different intensity. When you are fucking (without awareness or control) or drinking, you are harming your body, but that's not to say it's "wrong" per se. It is what it is. The moral dilemma stems from the false mind.

[@longde]

@asana1973 I don't think Trungpa had any problems with sex. Read his wife's biography, she had a happy life with him and then she had a new boyfriend (M. Levy) who was Trungpa's doctor. She had kids with Trungpa and with Levy, and the THREE of them lived together happily with no problem. If there was a 'demon he didn't master', it would have to be alcohol, because it led him to a premature death.

[@elisabetesoares794]

Teve grandes ensinamentos mas foi um abusador ,se fosse hoje terminaria os dias preso, abusava de seu carisma pra transar com suas alunas. Mas quando as pessoas querem se iludir, transformam crime em atividade iluminada, mas era apenas uma pessoa com muito conhecimento e usou isso pra se aproveitar da carência alheia

[@PaypaPl8]

@daophos Of course, AA has always been accepting of ALL beliefs, so he would have never had any trouble that way. He just didn't want it.

[@karmalodro1593]

KarmaKagyu..., When the students are ready to teach you will appear...... Quarrell over his behavior go ahead it's funny😊

[@enokidake]

Abusive behavior is "funny"?

[@NWNativeTracker]

YUP

[@bigfatdick5000]

No offense, I am sure he had alot to teach. but How do you justify a teacher that made a lot of students to become your lovers ?

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

. . . except they l o v e d to be those lovers - on their o w n will. . .

[@kohkkniew5905]

Karma is real. Look at how he died and how his institution is right now.

[@blackrebelradio9879]

Why, I will die soon. I must.

[@perfectsims]

🏴‍☠️🙏🏻💙❤️💙❤️💙🙏🏻🏴‍☠️

[@manyhumbles]

@asana1973 - maybe he mastered the language enough to put it to use for the west ripe and ready for Eastern thoughts and he became an expert in spiritual materialism probably from knowing how to sell his words and theories so well. I love the guy but wouldn't care to dehumanize him by thinking he was anything above the cycle of master and clown like us all

[@rberliner6680]

gentle deer well, like everyone except not. To be royalty and then be forced to leave your country, to learn English among the most most learned and accomplished, to fashion a reason to live, to save the jewels of your earliest training and then present them to a new world.. I'd say that qualifies him above the average. I'd say that results in struggle with feelings of loss and despair. This is what a prince is.

[@stephenmather1469]

Jesus and the Buddha: Don't judge one another, please please love your enemy! KZbin Comment Section: Hold my beer...

[@MysticOfTheSands]

@bigfatdick5000 It sounds strange to us and with good reason (given the many cults that we've seen brainwash people), but hey, maybe this fellow made it really work--as in he had open but functional, real relationships... Who knows? From the statements made in this video, he seems to have done everything not to be a hypocrite. Good for him--and his friends (P.S. This is the first time I've ever heard of him).

[@quantumpower]

1:50

[@quantumpower]

3:05

[@rickbangkok]

The ancient Greeks had that tradition as well.

[@jaganathrayan2831]

Dringpa

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

You meant "Drink pa" ?😁

[@julieb2968]

:)

[@jerry-mind-sky]

Most comments are few years old.

[@ruzickaw]

Stupi mouve, just pieces without sense. People speaking without any understanding, just words words. Isulting the egos? With what? With this kind of stpudities. Well , westerners have the time fpor these kind of mind plays. Why did he help his own people?

[@dianedebaun]

Tomas Fletcher, i THINK were you really have to be extremely careful is when you are thinking of demons more than the opposite. That is a problem that I have seen with a few Christian, worrying and thinking of the Devil and not thinking Of Christs Love for all. Also remember Krishna, he made love to 1,000 milk maides at the same time. Just my take on it.

[@vhawk1951kl]

just because you have a headache it does not necessarily follow that others also have a headache

[@SockPuppetSuperstar]

The only people who were interviewed for this "documentary" are devotees of the Shambhala cult (his "friends"). They can hardly be relied on to speak objectively or truthfully about Trungpa Rinpoche. There is some discussion of his alcoholism is the film, but only because it was unavoidable due to the flagrancy with which he indulged this vice.

[@ng-sv2ws]

hypersexuality+religion=free sex + better than mediation. you guys just jealous

[@ng-sv2ws]

reborn in Thailand.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

😁😁😁

[@borizovskimilan]

The year this charlatan died is the same year I was born. I have no worries that I am his reincarnation because I think that this guy reincarnated as a cockroach ...

[@tonywalton1052]

The hard drinking womanizing buddhist.