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[@babysleepysheepyrainbow]

Illuminaughty: Oh my god Click is a terrible person! Click: I'm literally just Swedish?

[@sallyparty1978]

Sweden xd

[@kitkatboard]

How dare a teenager from an other country not speak full English and now everything that's inappropriate in american culture, which is obviously the only culture in the world ?!!!

[@Luigipotter]

​@@kitkatboard At that point as far as I remember it wasn't even prevalent in American culture not to say it

[@Cocojonut-fp8ek]

Whats the difference

[@dessertcactus]

Being Swedish is a serious offense

[@HeisenbergFam]

Illuminaughti calling out a LegalEagle, a lawyer, wasnt the brightest move. Its crazy how wild she is

[@DukeTheRebel]

It wasn’t even a call out. She was literally trying to start a problem from nothing.

[@Mr.Unfantastic]

Ha Found ya

[@wiktorszymczak4760]

She tried to outlawyer a lawyer. Definetely not brightest

[@PlayerOfCeleste]

I swear I've seen you before...

[@Terracatlegend]

WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE

[@Jediahbear]

Blair is the kind of person that would be like "I'm not racist because I had a black friend in elementary school".

[@AmarisFrede]

I thought she was black herself?

[@levicrossdechantel]

@@AmarisFrede Nah, she was just passing off as a POC.

[@adambomb1553]

"My bf is black. He said I can say it!"

[@annamaria9073]

​@@levicrossdechantel how?! She's basically transparent. Even with all the filters.

[@starcrashr]

​@@levicrossdechantel Wow, that's even worse.

[@kadenkayson295]

Say it with me!! JUST BECAUSE IT TAKES THE PERSON TIME TO ADRESS A SITUATION, DOES NOT MEAN THEY CONDONED IT!!

[@katylepetsos7512]

And she knew about Click’s sleep schedule, but she saw it as an opportunity to try and ruin him.

[@lorenzocampanella8651]

Maybe she even created the creep account and did it to fully acuse him of something he wasn't even there to notice

[@TinyGhosty]

okay WHAT?! Her pretending to be an autistic fan claiming she has "always supported the autism community" is a hundred times worse than someone saying the r word out of ignorance. Using the r word and then stopping and acknowledging it happened shows growth but pretending to be a disabled person to fawn over YOURSELF for being such a great autistic ally is VILE!! I am autistic and I try to give people grace to grow and be better because this world is so abl*ist and it takes time to unlearn it, but Blair simultaneously patting herself on the back for being a great "ally" while pretending to be disabled all in the name of building a throne of morally superiority makes me want to throw hands.

[@talbertisevilbert1293]

its funny considering all her videos against anti autism content loll

[@PondScummer]

it's so, so abhorrent.

[@NyoomMonster]

Thanks for letting me know just how bad this tragedy is, was already gonna unsubscribe. I regret starting to watch her videos and sharing one with my autistic partner (I also have been told by so many doctors that I'm probably on the spectrum).

[@sarahgent2674]

Also in that one post the fake account describes themself as an "autist" which feels wrong? I'm not saying nobody uses that word unironically, and it is valid if you do, but I personally would only use it in a jokey informal way and not in a super serious context where I'd just default to "autistic person".

[@jmej01]

@Sarah Gent i feel like the word "autist" is just for us to describe ourselves. like, an allistic person using it, in any context really, just feels wrong to me.

[@Ember-vw2ms]

Blair really be out here calling the click a bad person like he isn't the type of guy to put googly eyes on his mic for a serious response video.

[@astridposey]

@@theragingjamaican1113 he was still learning English and didn't realize how severe some slurs were, and if I had to assume, was copying others he had watched.

[@Lorentari]

@@astridposey I'm guessing it is like in Danish where the "Fuck" has become a normal part of the Danish everyday language, also on TV (because let's face it... it is a good word with some [umphf] to it and , compared to Americans, Danes are WAY less taboo about anything sex-related, including slurs). Having English as a second language means that you don't have the historical context for why I word is supposedly as bad as it is.

[@Bruh234]

@@Lorentari he is swedish not danish but probably the same thing holds some truth

[@father270]

@@Lorentari yeah fr and i think a lot of people dont realise this. like i met a guy (serbian or something) who had never even heard of the existence of the n-word, let alone heard it used. so obviously if people had used it around him, he would have copied. (though i think luckily with this particular guy i made him understand that it was not acceptable to use.)

[@koplaxklotory]

@@astridposey That's very understandable, my first language is arabic and the way I was studying English is by watching random KZbin videos the same way some people would learn it using music or movies. In the early 2000's until like 2016 or something, people were using slurs like they're candy, and of course I never thought they were bad words even though I didn't understand them so I'd be repeating after these people, the only bad words I was aware of being fu:ck and sh:it lmao so I didn't even know that the N word for example was even bad, it seemed to me like any other word, so I don't fault him for not knowing that the words he used were horrible words, it happens. But for Blair to dig up all these old stuff and stalking this guy and trying to make his life a living hell for it? Nah that's too far 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@user-uh8ip8ym2v]

As a black man your apology for something you did while young is accepted and unnecessary. That fact you can own your actions is a true sign of growth and I Pray you all the best in life.

[@BType13X2]

I am confused on this, did he call someone a Re____ or did he drop the N bomb when learning english or did he do both, I watched this video and a previous video on this at about 3:30am and I am unsure what words he used that he is apologizing for. Growing up I definitely said stuff like, "That is so Re_____ed" and only removed that word from my vocabulary entire about 10 years ago. The N-bomb however can honestly say was never in my vocab. I wonder what words we are using today will be offensive tomorrow.

[@nitehavvk]

@@BType13X2 From what I understood, he used the word 'retard' while gaming 2 years ago and also quoted some movie clip with the N-Word in it when he was a teen. Although I'm like 99 % sure it was not the N-Word with an hard R, but the one with an A at the end

[@fingerboxes]

When I was a very tiny kid (like maybe 3 at the most?) I told an African American woman with a baby: "my mommy says n**** are cute when they're babies." I genuinely thought it was a compliment. She didn't get mad at me, she was very adult about it and was like "Oh, your mommy says that? Can you get your mommy for me?" My mom denied it but the lady was like "Stop blaming this on your tiny, tiny child who doesn't know better, she CLEARLY heard it somewhere. You already know you're in the wrong or you wouldn't be denying it. Be a better parent." I feel like you can't blame kids/teens for what they hear at home, on TV, or on the internet; they probably don't get what the harm is because they don't have the maturity to do so and might genuinely not realize what they said was hurtful. That's doubly true if it's not even their primary language. You just need to encourage them to be better. And if they do grow up to be better you shouldn't hold their past against them. I know now that my mom was a raging racist, hardly her only terrible quality, and I do my best to not be anything like her. People don't get to choose their skin color or parents but they do get to choose how they behave.

[@cy-one]

I genuinely do not understand why It's _not okay_ to call someone a retard but it _is okay_ to call someone an idiot. By what I gathered, _both_ are actual classifications about intelligence, but to be classified as an idiot IIRC the requirement of one's IQ is to be even lower than the requirement for a classification for retardation. So if it's about using ableist slurs, why isn't "idiot" not treated to be way, way worse than "retard"?

[@MrAntice]

​@@cy-one This one is easy. "idiot" isn't actually about intelligence aka IQ, but about behaviours and choices. Everyone is an idiot sometimes. either from ignorance, misunderstandings or happenstance. (don't do drugs kids). Retardation is a legal medical term linked to ones ability to reason, measured in the form of IQ.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

As someone who was sexually abused as a child by an adult...I don't enjoy people throwing around accusations lightly about child abusers or enablers. It isn't a weapon or a shield for people to use in personal drama. I'm annoyed.

[@han-yb6hh]

I completely agree, but Its a shame how many REAL predators get away cause of blame shifted to innocent people..if only they put that much energy into actually happening..

[@Jonilo123]

I agree. Feeling sorry for you. I hope you have people who are supporting you and you were able to process it. Sending love.

[@DaniRainShine]

i have to agree as a survivor this pisses me off you don't use our trauma as a shield

[@astridposey]

It's also shit like this why I'm sad "me too" turned into "men are trash". As an AMAB person, who was raped by a now ex girlfriend, who's therapist even said that doesn't happen unless I'm enjoying it, I absolutely hate false accusations, cause it makes shit like what happened to me get swept under the rug. Sorry if I got a bit personal, it's just really hard to see people throwing it around like a cudgel.

[@db_524]

Same

[@geekygoggles628]

So uh... as a black person, I am am not expecting a man learning English as a *third language*, during *high school*, in *S w e d e n*, ***SEVERAL YEARS AGO***, to know about English/American slurs. Just saying, myself and most other minority people/groups do not care. You fixed the problem. No harm no foul. 🤷‍♀

[@doodlesyoru2108]

All you gotta do is explain why it's wrong. and show an example of improper use. I only learned about the word itself and why it was bad when I saw the Pewdiepie bridge video.

[@yuki97kira]

Honestly, english is my SECOND language, ive spoken english for about 20 years and even then i didnt know many slangs...i recently learned "five fingers" thingy meant you stole something....AFTER 20 YEARS OF SPEAKING AND LEARNING ENGLISH.... Im sure there are more I dont know...heck i didnt even know what the N word is till like...idk 2016...2018?

[@Pan-oy2ck]

​​@@yuki97kira English is my first language, and I've never heard that before.

[@doodlesyoru2108]

@@yuki97kira Go look it up on Wikipedia, most of us aren't allowed to say it. But basically, it's racist to say this if you're not black, because it's both a hood slang and also a nod to the version used to degrade black people, usually referred to as the "n-word hard R"

[@gem9535]

I lived in Mexico and kids would say horrible slurs all the time because they *didn't know.* They just thought they were average insults and didn't understand why I, as someone whose English is my first language, reacted so horribly. As soon as I explained to them why those words were so BAD, they had an "Oooh" moment and never said them again. Heck, one kid even got a bit ostracized because he refused to listen and kept calling people the n-word for 'laughs.'

[@errorbaby4045]

This is so horrifically obsessive on Blairs part. She created literal sockpuppet accounts to spread false alligations about you, even when you told her that you were still on good terms with her. This is actually so gross

[@idontevenknow9758]

yeah like wtf is that about? You have to be extremely petty and meanspirited to waste that much time and energy on someone. Channels fail all the time and Sad Milk failed due to what looks like a collection of issues. This is unhinged behavior. No one will want to do any collabs now after this.

[@astridmaack4516]

Worst part is, I don’t get why. Like, why the heck did she do this?? Because her ego was too fragile and got hurt by people leaving? People like her should NOT be a content creator or work with people professionally - clearly she can’t muster that stuff

[@castrinecubique983]

I'm so sorry, I just can't help myself. False alligations? That's croc!

[@emilyrln]

@@idontevenknow9758 unhinged is the perfect word for it

[@crazypbl8801]

Creepshow art vibes!

[@beckyruter2895]

I don't want to make your fans mad, but I'm a 70 year old woman who loves watching your content. I thought Illuminaughtii was interesting. Now I've unsubscribed because there is too much evidence against her. When I'm feeling down, I look for your videos and I always get some good laughs. Please keep doing what you do, because you make old ladies like me love you!

[@adambomb1553]

Good content spans generations! 😊

[@cheesuscrust3623]

why would that make people mad?, that's awesome

[@changjinius1499]

You're amazing Becky 💜🤍

[@Loki-Landsby]

💜🌹

[@fawna_lariat]

Oml this is precious, we love you Becky

[@gawd.]

Blair: click is a bad person. also the click: puts googly eyes on his mic for a serious conversation

[@lambovich]

Absolute power play

[@jknight9487]

I assume you’ve watched OneTopic’s, then, if you’re partial to googly eyes…. 👀 👀 👀 👀

[@taffingtonboathouse5754]

I like the googlies

[@ThJakotsu]

Illuminaughtii and CreepshowArt are two sides of the same nasty coin. I'm embarrassed to have supported either of them.

[@hannahhannah7002]

They would have been really good friends but thank God both their egos are wayyyyy to big to interact

[@iandean1112]

​@Hannah Hannah I'm convinced she's creepshow's cousin or something. I know it isn't true, but wow does it feel right

[@iandean1112]

​@Kiwi True! It's all about how you deal with new information!

[@amberisrad]

dont worry, im in the same boat. both of them i watched! urgh

[@nicestpancake]

@@amberisrad Turns out there's something to be said about people who obsess over finding as much as they can about conspiracies... I don't usually interact with the 'friend group drama' side of yt'ers so I'm really far from this emotionally but, like, the person who I used to get angry about the world accusing the person I use to calm the fuck down and see the levity of it all is................... well. I guess it just kind-of makes *sense,* seeing it from this distance and perspective.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Ok let me get this straight... She doxxed a suicidal guy and exposed his suicidal thoughts, and she thinks people are overreacting.

[@alexvalentine5091]

Yes

[@Lakadaizical]

Yeah pretty much

[@kiyu3229]

What. The. Fuck.

[@Cottoncookie624]

WTF, I watched her videos for a long time. I never expected her to do that 😮

[@erin1569]

hey, watcha doing here?

[@downwardspiral2326]

He was being sassy and sarcastic throughout the whole video but blair making sockpuppet account for harassment really broke him.

[@doge8825]

Exactly. Those last like 5 minutes genuinely hurt. Man this entire situation is fucked beyond belief I’m glad everyone is doing better

[@lorenzocampanella8651]

I think that's why a wrote an entire script for the first part because if he told with his heart and real thoughts he wanted to talk seriously about the problem and broking down because of the sadness caused by her actions wouldn't have helped but the next part was improvised and his true emotions showed up

[@notbot2648]

For real. Realizing someone you had thought of as a friend being that deeply unhinged about trying to hurt you has got to be such a bad feeling. Like it's scary and disturbing.

[@zubetp]

@@notbot2648i've been there. my "blairs" weren't big creators, just irl friends of mine from high school. the betrayal is half of it - i was heartbroken. the other half is how bizarre and perplexing it is. it challenges your perception of reality.

[@nikofaershee4235]

Honestly it's time that someone brings light to how stupid it is to expect non us people to be fully aware and connected to all aspects of american culture

[@oyayemayafaro7307]

Fucking THIS!

[@Abel-lt5nr]

This! Is completely different if they are actually acting with ill intent but most of the time they don’t even know what the issue is cause they don’t live or see stuff from the US. When I first moved to the US I remember learning about the N-word for the first time in my life, I never used it cause obviously that’s not a word in my native language. But it did take me a little to understand what the history behind it was, I asked my teacher directly and I remember my classmates being appalled I didn’t know what it was lol

[@SoulDevoured]

All of the internet could use more good faith interaction tbh.

[@adambomb1553]

Seriously! American is not the only country or culture in the world! The fact that we are so America-centric is just steeped in colonization and nationalism. And, frankly, that's super gross.

[@hudsonhaynie1632]

@AdamBomb I’m sorry, but I don’t think America is liable for having a big presence on the internet… We have a big population, and most of the largest web companies. I’m sorry that our idiots are so visible, but generalizing isn’t productive.

[@mracula1667]

Illuminaughtii seems like the kind of person who is at first such a good friend. She lets people vent, listens and is always supportive. Unfortunately, the moment she is pissed off, she’ll use all the information you shared with her in confidence to hurt you.

[@sand_eater101]

She really does. And I hate how clearly I can see it.

[@vcombs4276]

Clearly they have a LOT of growing to do

[@cl5470]

I see you've met my older sister. 😂

[@TheSurrealBoye]

Definition of a dark empath

[@t1ff4nyall3n]

This is the exact reason why I don't talk emotions with my bloodline anymore. They would do this to the letter.

[@h0b0c0p8]

Imagine naming yourself as a joke on conspiracy theories and then legitimately being responsible for conspiracies.

[@doodlesyoru2108]

Not the best look.

[@shaden.l.m.9506]

Looks like she needs more therapy then she realizes.

[@doodlesyoru2108]

@@shaden.l.m.9506 She does have anger issues, for sure. >Gets into trouble, almost as if looking for it. > Gets mad when people stop supporting her troublemaking. > Starts to spit vitriol and try to manipulate, and lie. > Gets mad when most of us don't buy it because of her manipulator vibe. > Unbearable anger and hate ensue

[@jordy9606]

@@shaden.l.m.9506 Instigator? Instigator is a pretty good word for her, I think.

[@luvondarox]

@@shaden.l.m.9506 Agitator?

[@pooowater]

cannot get over how she impersonated an autistic person, and then had this fictional "autist" stroke her ego and praise her for being so supportive to the autistic community, like bro get out 💀💀💀

[@ilEagle3696]

no one hurts our wholesome and handsome Swedish boi like that to the point where he's about to break down pitchforks up, everyone. We have a trip to make

[@mysteryman9230]

*lights a torch* let us march

[@alicebthegachaweirdo8378]

*grabs pitchfork* Let’s do this

[@Me-wx1mt]

“Quick guys, the click is asleep! Everyone be pedophiles!” I can’t believe she just randomly started dragging you for that, this whole situation is really weird.

[@moyaiexists1031]

the oen owgwana😢❤rsapwab😢 w we😊d😂sw😮l😊😢😢😢

[@Me-wx1mt]

@@moyaiexists1031 ?

[@bowxfire5275]

I wouldn't be surprised if that guy that put the pedo message and got banned was actually her in her alt.

[@catandrobbyflores]

"How dare he sleep! Reeee!"

[@skrunkly191]

@@moyaiexists1031 taet tawe gienag ❤gmfk😢 fmrdasw😮gurg😊😢😢😢

[@OzMediaOfficial]

Hey everyone. I wanted to thank click for being so forgiving with how complicit I was with a lot of Blairs behavior. Especially with her alt account. You can see my direct involvement at 31:18. I should have done more to stop her. I honestly don't remember much. But I've seemed to mentally distanced myself with these actions and my involvement. This doesn't excuse my part in this. I, at the time, was apparently aware of Blair doing this. I don't remember my involvement. All I have to go off of is that screenshot click showed at the given time stamp. I have a lot of growing I need to do to fix the mistakes I made with backing someone I genuinely believed was the right choice. I am taking responsibility now though and admitting that I have fucked up by not only backing the wrong horse, but doing nothing when this horse seemingly started to kick and bite people. Yeah, the horse will be a horse, but I could have probably done more. Thank you all, and I understand your hesitancy to forgive me. And thank you Click, OT, Salty, Wonder, and all of you glorious bastards who despite everything, have done their best to forgive me for the hell I allowed to happen.

[@liquidnoodles3480]

I doubt anyone was mad at you. Don't worry!

[@CelestineNight]

The fact you understand and look back and see what you did wrong shows you’ve grown. You’re on the right track and doing fine Oz. Don’t beat yourself up over it.

[@ethanking3738]

I’m sorry hope everything ends up okay your an amazing creator

[@aliceramdom.s]

what is this about?

[@tylerkovalskas9780]

Oz, don't feel bad, you're a really great person. I don't have anything against you or click. It's really sad that all of this happened in the first place

[@laszlodomonkos3941]

Honestly, the way Future Click is on the edge of tears just breaks my heart.

[@SamodoTomatoes]

Same

[@berryonly5922]

It gives me the same feeling as when one of my younger relatives realised that their friends had been behind the bullies that were harassing them.

[@db_524]

Same, I wanted to give him a hug so badly.

[@ilikedinosaurs392]

Ngl that sounds like a villain origin story ​@@berryonly5922

[@emiliapeters1359]

I love how when she was accused of plagiarism for a video she made three years ago she was all like 'come on guys, really? It was an old video'. And then it turns out she was hyping up people to hate you for bad things you said during videos that were around 12 years old

[@Kamakiri711]

Well, Harris basically assassinated her entire channel because of it :)

[@rachelpeterson8925]

Blair making alt accounts is giving huge creepshow vibes. Who knows how far she could've gone

[@sariahfavors3243]

Omg I was thinking about the exact same thing

[@Jessica_Costantini]

omg yes!!! such huuuuuuuge creepshow art vibes!!! wow

[@janedoe2859]

I was thinking the same thing, I actually really liked Blair and subscribed to her because of her MLM videos, and her spreading awareness about shady business stuff (Actually helped me avoid falling into a shady trap myself) but this is insane, and I'm siding with Click and the others.... This drama is giving me mad Creepshow vibes.

[@ceciliamorales6388]

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought this holy shit

[@clairebubbletea7973]

What's crazy is I subbed to Blair and Creepshow both, ended up dropping both, and now both are in weird drama. Lol, I didn't think I had any intuition about stuff like that but hey, I'm not complaining...

[@Ellicinema]

I know literally nothing about this situation, but the language barrier between Swedish and English is so real. Just because you learn a new word does not mean you automatically learn all the historical baggage that has followed the word in a culture that isn’t yours.

[@asilnorahc8910]

This!! I too made insensitive mistakes when learning english, which i would never do again now. It is unfair to use these past words against him

[@frikixu568]

in any language and person that is learning english, it happened to me that I learned a new word and I didn't know it was actually a slur because i didn't really know the meaning of it. It's important to be aware of when someone young is learning a language, because they are even more likely to use vocabulary the wrong way.

[@absolutelynobodycares]

I can testify to this. Seen it happen many times. Am also Swedish. I'm fortunate enough only have made a minor mistake once many years ago. Cultural and language barriers are very real.

[@christinewalker7242]

I speak English as my only language and the amount of mistakes I made in this regard when I was younger than 10… if you are not in a country whose main language (or only language) is English, I am not surprised those mistakes get made. And even for a native English speaker, it is a weird language with different ways of using it in the USA, Canada, England, Australia, New Zealand, etc.

[@noci2830]

Yep, people forget about language barriers as well as cultural differences, plenty of words in our language were never offensive because they didn't have the same racist/ableist/etc context, yet when translated they do. Too often people assume someone is being a bad person when all to often they're just not aware that what they're saying is bad, if everyone just learned to take a deep breath and try to explain things to others we'd have way less drama.

[@Roozyj]

Being a European person with a similar age as the Click... it took me a long time and a lot of internet to realise that all the words mentioned are really *that* bad in America. Like, I knew that the N-word and the R-word weren't nice things to say, but I don't think I knew exactly how bad they were in high school.

[@austinblackburn377]

Plus some words have different connotations depending on the region. Like the F slur is cigarettes in Australian English if I remember correctly. If it's not Australian please correct me

[@Roozyj]

@@austinblackburn377 Yeah, words have different meanings for different people. I say 'fuck' a lot in daily life. Being Dutch, it doesn't mean much. Sure, it's very much not formal and kind of rude, but nobody is going to be extremely upset. I do really have to hold back when I'm talking to my religious American family members. Even worse is that the N-word comes from a word that simply means 'black'. I heard that some fanatics on Twitter have tried to cancel the country 'Montenegro', and I assume the country 'Niger' is only allowed to exist by grace of the pronounciation 'nee-zièr'. So sure, if someone is aware that a word is very offensive and still keeps using it, that's on them. But people can't expect every European teen to understand the cultural weight of English words in America.

[@stoferb876]

As a european a bit older than the Click I'm not even sure what "R-word" they are talking about. Is it the one that ends with ...tard? It's the only one I could imagine being used as a slur. And it also seems the last 5 years or so have added a dozen acronyms I haven't really gotten the hang of either.

[@Roozyj]

@@stoferb876 im pretty sure thats the one

[@kst8688]

@@austinblackburn377F slur is cigarettes in English English as well

[@seriouslyoverit2971]

As a labor specialist, Blair sharing the documents of the discord when it had already been handled is an example of creating a hostile work environment and potentially sexual harrassment. I've seen employees sending emails, jokes and conversation that's viewed as lude or sexual to women and it was a huge violation of their rights under EEOC to include hostile work environment.

[@jaqsre]

as a queer autistic person, your community has never done anything but make me feel accepted. i truly do not understand what her issue is 💀

[@Mythical4227]

No way! I’m also queer and autistic! Great to see you here lol

[@jaqsre]

@@Mythical4227 good to see you too :D

[@lynniewood]

Another autistic queer person here, hope you guys are having a great day!

[@silent_house]

same

[@Mythical4227]

OMG YESS! HELLO FELLOW AUTISTIC QUEER PEOPLE! 🎊🎉🏳️‍🌈❤️ WHOOO!

[@OneTopic]

I’m… speechless.

[@GODOFAWSOMENESS1]

Hi speechless I’m GODOFAWESOMNESS1

[@blu3coyot3]

Am I tripping or is this comment older than the video

[@NyxTheBlackCat]

@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 hello godofawsomeness1 im nyx

[@omnitransking1176]

@@blu3coyot3 No, I noticed that too.

[@enzo1673]

@@NyxTheBlackCat hi nyx im enzo16

[@metademetra]

Naive me: Come on guys! Calling her CreepshowArt is a bit much! Meanwhile Blair: *Calls someone a bad person for saying "retarded" in high school. Also makes sock puppet accounts to harrass said person*

[@pooowater]

and cosplays what she thinks an autistic person is in doing so. "im an autist and he called the mine craft zombie r-word and it made me so mad~" which is way more problematic than using the r word like 10 years ago

[@ObamaMpreg]

@@pooowater I’ve already commented this, but no autistic person seriously calls themselves an “autist” 💀

[@yokune]

why r u typing out the r slur

[@redrubytwilightxx8700]

AND she allegedly bullied a black classmate

[@javieraravena5345]

Besides, not to call Click old, but I feel that he may have been in highschool when "retarded" was still a socially acceptable insult rather than the slur it is today

[@NotRowsdower]

How dare you be guilty of being both asleep, and a teenager?!?! Some things you just can't forgive. 😅 🍻🌞

[@tartaglia.]

Ikr. Being asleep? Rookie mistake. Click should’ve been on caffeine 24/7. Smh, the nerve of some ppl…

[@sinfulwrath666]

iilluminaughtii is on Creepshowart level of craziness. All the lengths she does to find dirt on her previous colleague is just insane.

[@rinpaisys]

Her and creepshow were friends, and creepshow did to her pretty much exactly what she is doing to click and the former sadmilk members. Those 2 really are cut from the same cloth.

[@geekygoggles628]

Oh, shiiiiit someone said it.

[@cats9994]

​@Illuminati - chan this is information I didn't know, I wasn't watching Blair when the whole Shannon thing happened. God damn.

[@deathmorphosis]

@@rinpaisys This makes so much fucking sense now

[@sinfulwrath666]

@@rinpaisys Holy crap, I never knew that. Now it totally makes sense why their tactics are so similar.

[@PlutoniumBoss]

Honestly this situation to me absolutely trashes Blair's journalistic integrity and throws into doubt every statement she has ever made on her entire channel. If she's going to go this far to sensationalize this situation, what stretches have gone into her scripts?

[@dhi_holo]

I remember back when she did a video on Vocaloid, the community pointed out errors throughout the entire video, and even I recognised some. She never posted corrections. With this situation being a lot more human, it's lighting the question "if she's lied and been wrong about this, what else is there"

[@JWParkerPhDDDiv]

I actually did some checking on her research and found she’s carelessly twisted certain sources that she cited for her own agenda.

[@garchompinribs]

@@JWParkerPhDDDiv Can you elaborate with one of those long replies no one reads? I’m genuinely interested but don’t have the time for it

[@riskvideos]

I started to become pretty sus around the vic mignogna episode. She was quite far from impartial, to put it lightly.

[@Necroxion]

Don't worry, they're copy-pasted from better journalists such as Cruel World Happy Mind She didn't overexaggerate because she doesn't have an original hair on her entire body

[@catoticneutral]

I'm so tired of internet personalities trying to start drama over random mild stuff people did years ago to get each other cancelled... which, ironically, is why I tried to ignore this drama. I'm glad I decided to look into it this time.

[@assassin8636]

And why do you care about it you can't control everyone

[@nno8869]

Honestly seeing the pain in clicks eye's when he is usually such a happy little chap, was heartbreaking. Wth. Just, wth. I'm so sorry dude, keep going, we still love you man.

[@db_524]

I know, I cried too. I hope he’s doing better and healing from this.

[@RainCheck797]

Twitter: Blair, own up to your mistakes and apologize! Blair: I am so sorry ... that I was a complete victim and did nothing wrong 🥺

[@Psylaine64]

That exactly sums up the video I saw of hers on this, not that I could watch it all. I've been a victim of abuse and to hear her fake apologizing just made me sick

[@RainCheck797]

@Laine Dore same. I watched what I could, but the selective narrative was painfully obvious and reminded me way too much of how i was raised.

[@beefybitcoin8085]

Besides maybe you. How many women ever take responsibilities for their f ups. I would say 80% of women I know cant or wont say their sorry or take responsibility.

[@ValidT]

@@Psylaine64 Jesus what'd she say I didn't end up watching the full video I just watched like the first 10 minutes

[@EvilGNU]

@@beefybitcoin8085 Pls don't make this about your toxic agenda.

[@themerpking8445]

Im glad that after the Kwite situation, people can make concise responses and we can see what actually happened. Much better than just immediately cancelling anyone who’s name comes under fire

[@ranting2daMAX]

agree

[@Brazil1200]

Kwite was a stone setter in the "drama community"

[@Meleedroit]

People have been calling out her behavior since before that iirc

[@Drakestorm87]

Same. I’m glad people don’t have the power to falsely accuse someone of something and they immediately get cancelled anymore.

[@myri_the_weirdo]

The sad part is we had to wait until kwite to have the community be able to not go against the first name droped

[@grayskindablue]

28:38 So, that long post Click understandably didn’t want to read is absolutely wild. It’s Blaire under her alt Reddit account going on about how Sad Milk must be lying but she figured out the truth, which pretty much is just “Click said slurs and OT was okay with it and everyone should be mad at them.” It gets pretty deranged. She says, in reference to the r-slur, “as an autist i am mad he would call a mine craft zombie that word.” (Which, lmao at “mine craft zombie.”) But as an actual neurodivergent person I’ve never met another autistic person who self-refers as “an autist”, we’ve been through the whole person-first language debate within the community multiple times. But I’m sure they exist and that’s fine, and not really the point. The issue is Blaire DOES NOT have autism, as far as I’m aware. She’s just… cosplaying disability, cosplaying identity. She continues a bit later with, “blaire is a big supporter of the community and asan.” (She means ASAN: The Autism Self-Advocacy Network.) “I love her videos about exposing autism $peaks. i think Blaire found out about this and fought with him about it.” (In reference to her vague tweet about being stabbed in the back + a stream she saw where he played old videos.) Then there’s a bunch of outrage/theorizing about Sad Milk/linking decade-old videos. Near the end when doing more theorizing about the “real” reason Click and OT left Sad Milk, it comes up again when she says, “one topic’s server has been very inclusive. i think his mods found out and saw that one topic was choosing to stay friends with someone who is okay with making fun of autists and the lgbtqia+ community and left. i know i am going to be leaving and stop supporting him on patreon.” My jaw actually dropped. Insinuating other people should stop supporting a creator is extremely below the belt. A lot of KZbinr’s have alts and do underhanded shוt for attention, not that it’s really acceptable. However, being the one paying people to dig through old videos and anonymously posting them while, among other things, _pretending to be an autistic person offended on behalf of the community_ is really wild. I mean, she literally says “one topic says hes an ally of the community but then still supports a friend and still had a podcast with him when he says these really derogatory and mean things. i think one topic is a liar and a sham and has been pandering to our community if he stays friends with someone like this.” I’m sorry, *OUR* community?! Unhinged. A little surprised she wasn’t also queer and also black in that post. 🤷‍♂️ Just be whatever tf you are on your alt, apparently. As a side note, OT seems chill to me from what I’ve seen, the quotes calling him awful things were just in the name of clear communication. And I absolutely do not support her trying to get people to leave his Patreon. He shouldn’t have anyone trying to interfere with him being supported by fans who love his work. As for Click, this is hands-down the absolute best I’ve seen KZbin drama dealt with. It’s right up with when Jenna Marbles made the fish apology. Great job man. Sorry any of this happened. All the best.

[@pooowater]

autistic, was here for the "im an autist" comment, like she's blasting someone for saying the r-word and in doing so decides to poorly impersonate an autistic person 💀💀💀

[@lostkarai]

Him, OT, Wonder and Oz should be the textbook examples of how to handle situations like these, if you ask me. They deserved SO MUCH better and yet they're such gentlemen that I've heard absolutely NONE of them insulting her while she did all this shit and even worse to poor Wonder. How she even thinks she can come back from this is pure insanity.

[@graciefinley6912]

This really is the best way to handle these situations, there isn’t any pure rage or anything, it’s not an aggressive video. Yet it also shows information that is relevant and shows the actual hurt. OT did a similar video and it was the same, very calm. Both Click and OT are some of the sweetest people I’ve ever seen on KZbin

[@NCC-1701_no_bloody_a_b_c_or_d]

Ugh, the faking autism to try and give herself validity on this whole r-slur debacle is the most projectionist self own she could come up with. I don't really care what anyone calls a minecraft zombie. But take massive issue about falsely claiming identities to further your own agenda in tarnishing another's reputation, under the guise of a fan no less. Like, she's either fully aware what she's doing and simply doesn't care, or she's genuinely been so far up her own arse for so long she doesn't know what's what anymore. I can't help but feel she dislikes these guys so much because they're such naturally charismatic and likeable people, and she's more sour than a lemon. She got popular grifting, but doesn't have the receipts for what she's trying to sell, and now the con has fallen apart.

[@Rachel98246]

The only time I’ve ever heard the word ‘autist’ being used has been as an insult by non-autistic people… we usually just refer to ourselves as autistic. What a snake.

[@SteampunkFridgeRider]

honestly the fact that she was making alt accounts to harrass you is the ultimate sign that she's lost touch with reality. it's like creepshow art, it feels as if once all your friends are directly connected to your online presence and communities (and that is also your livelihood), it becomes harder and harder to act like a normal person, so people end up just dissolving their personalities into different accounts and such.

[@owl6637]

As a Pansexual autistic person, ive never felt ostracized or ridiculed in your community, man. Hope everything is going well for you, Click.

[@TheHungrySlug]

You good with us all here! We are all who we are. Now someone start the party.

[@jadeparelius]

Same here! Both pan and on the spectrum, I often don't interact with communities but if I was going to pick one to try to dig into, it'd be Clicks.

[@shart_rat]

Yea that's true this community is such a green flag

[@jenaf4208]

Same.

[@DaisyGhostVinn]

Feel free to be yourself dear! You're all welcome here👉💛👈!

[@su-30flanker6]

At this rate she Blair could make a corporate casket video about her own channel

[@cooliotrainlover1213]

If she did, it would probably be the only corporate casket where she talks good about the “corporation”

[@LilacMonarch]

Honestly if someone sent her information about "some person" with this stuff and just names stripped out, I wouldn't even be surprised if she made a video on it. And then scramble to damage control when it's revealed it was about herself

[@crimson_sky]

She essentially did lol

[@milan8037]

@@LilacMonarch I would love to see that and it wouldn't surprise me if that would actually work. Kind of sad because I genuinly liked her content in the past but it has slowly gotten off rails.

[@SydneyTamar2003]

I just started watching Blair like last year and she always seemed to paint herself as a top dog looking out for small fries. Crazy how all this started cause she thought someone was "Copying" her editing style and then there's the cruel world happy mind situation that I just found out this week and that just made me unsubscribe from her

[@dragonfly-]

I gotta say, getting drunk and touching grass is the best way I have seen anyone end a drama surrounding video. Ngl, iconic.

[@merdufer]

If she didn't build on whole brand on calling out unethical and shady behaviors, she could have survived this. The way it is I don't see her bouncing back.

[@pandoratheclay]

It’s like foreshadowing

[@laurajackson4710]

I am 58 years old. One thing I learned is that nobody should be condemned for stupid things they said as teenagers. My generation was lucky in that we didn't have everything we did recorded for all time.

[@TonySamedi]

I think like with many things, people need to embrace NUANCE. A teenager who said words they didn't understand were as bad as they are, in ways that were considered socially acceptable around the time? Yeah, no one should condemn anyone for that. But the idea we shouldn't condemn stupid things teenagers say is also kinda dumb, because there are teenagers who are actually hateful bigots and such. Everything needs to be judged with the context.

[@sadie3818]

​@@TonySamedi I agree. Teenagers should be punished when they say something bad, but it shouldn't be held against them years later when they've corrected themselves.

[@RainCheck797]

Yeah, but to add to it, everyone is leaving out the fact that English is not his first primary language. It's one thing to learn words and their definitions. It's completely different to learn context, slang, colloquial use, etc, when all you have to go off of is media.

[@NotJpTem]

@@sadie3818 yep. I used to say the r and f slurs when I was younger, but that was because I was like 7 years old, heard my cousins constantly say it, and picked up on it. I didn't know what the words meant until way later. context matters.

[@davidribeiro1064]

I'm so glad smartphones were not a thing when I was a teen. And I was a fairly lowkey discreet kid.

[@Loldino897]

The fact she pretended to be a autustic fan to try and bury you pisses me of the most being autustic myself it shines a bad light on our disabilitys

[@BoltManectric]

Same, and also that she used Phineas and Ferb WHICH IS A COMFORT SHOW of mine to do it really boils my blood. If Dan Povenmire knew.... 😤

[@losasha7997]

What! I must’ve missed that bit, yikes, I’m autistic too and that’s just really crappy behaviour Edit found it… gross 28:14

[@liuwithakazoo9761]

As an autistic person myself it's absolutely infuriatingly disgusting behavior like??

[@brolys_maiden]

It's so crazy that she did this because she literally made a video about the bad representation of autism,I'm appalled.

[@involith]

its insane how a women who claims to support is would also use it as a way to attack someone. she has no right masquerading as an autistic fan to try and lend more credence to her statements. its enough she pretended to be someone else just to spread this stuff without associating her name so no one could see her smear campaign, but to also try and use us as a support to her puppet account just to get more sympathy? she clearly doesnt respect us even a lick if she thinks this was okay, and all of her call outs regarding ableism directed towards us now stand as shallow and performative attempts to act as if she respected us as people. no one who respects us would pretend to be us for something this cruel, and her behavior is more disgusting than the ableism she claimed against the click

[@itsrainingmelons6202]

The term you describe at 32:30 is known as golden handcuffs. It is the act of bribing an individual materially ( buying them whatever they may want/need) until they feel as though they are permanently indebted to the individual and cannot say no.

[@PJ_galacto]

Hey click, as an autistic trans kid I’m so sorry this has happened, I’ve been a big supporter of the Illuminati up until today when I saw this video, we all say things we learn to regret as we grow up, and you genuinely didn’t know and have grown from it into an amazing person You and OT are a safe space for me and have helped me through some things, please take care of yourself man, I hope she grows the heck up

[@zed9256]

Autistic and ace here. It’s just a teen being a teen.

[@PJ_galacto]

@@zed9256 No- it’s still wrong to say, but he didn’t know, just because someone is a child doesn’t automatically justify everything But he stopped when he found out and proves he was safe As an also autistic ace I respectfully disagree Yes this behaviour is more in UNEDUCATED teens but that does not make it okay. Just because someone is a teenager doesn’t mean they should get away with stuff But it can be looked pads with change

[@lairely6208]

​@@PJ_galacto I think many people from other countries just have absolutely no clue why the R-Word is so Bad. I'm german, speaking english on regular bases for 14-15 years now, and I just recently learned the problem behind this word through this Situation. Sereosly, I've learned the word in school, and no teacher ever even mentioned it's not okay to use it. I, and my husband also, thought it is a word like every other word, and we had no clue about the history behind it. I'm glad we never really used it. I bet many people from other countries who are learning english as a second language have also no clue about the topic.

[@PJ_galacto]

@@lairely6208 yee, I’m not saying I’m guilt free from saying any words due to growing up with people using it around me but when I was around 10-11 I found out how fucked up it is I just think it’s wrong to use the terms "kids will be kids" because if I kid is using slurs they need to be taught Just dismissing it because they’re children doesn’t mean it should be excused The click made a mistake, but labelling it as a teen being a teen is wrong, HE DID do something WRONG, but it was never irredeemable, he just needed to learn

[@zed9256]

@@PJ_galacto You're right, dude. The word is wrong to say but he didn't know at that time.

[@m0rgu3z0mbi3]

The worst part of this video is that he sounds so incredibly upset by the knowledge that Blaire was literally harassing everyone he knew.

[@DatOneCat]

You know, with this whole drama going on the whole "Sad Milk" name should've been called "Spoiled Milk" instead considering how rotten her behavior is.

[@niekatheunknownweirdokid]

Good one.

[@plaguster]

nice

[@JohnGardnerAlhadis]

Or "Aged like..."

[@MorganVsTheInternet]

May I add Sour Milk!

[@cartatoblood7537]

Nice.

[@Dunebat]

You have thoroughly convinced me to unsubscribe from Blair's channel. Thank you for opening my eyes.

[@demonchildDLC]

Not gonna lie, Click, hearing the pain in your voice at the end reading stuff from the alt account hurt my heart. I'm new to your channel, and I often enjoy watching One Topic's channel, too. I only started watching your videos earlier this year, and I had no idea who Illuminati and Sad Milk are until this video. To hear that such wholesome and friendly guys like you and OT would be backstabbed by someone who you called friend is heartbreaking. I find it sickening that someone would make an alt account to harrass you and your friends while calling herself your friend. That's not friendly behavior. I hope Blair seeks out a therapist and gets help for the hate that has taken deep root in her heart and eventually becomes a person that can own up to her mistakes. Keep your head up high, Click. This austistic nonbinary loves you.

[@db_524]

Yeah, as a fellow Autistic, but Bi Ace Cis woman, it sickened me that Blair faked having autism under that alt account. And as someone who’s been betrayed by some people I thought were my friends in the past, I can relate to what Cliccy, OT as well as her other former colleagues are suffering through. And I wept when I heard the pain in Cliccy’s voice. I’ve been harassed and bullied myself as well. Blair needs to be held accountable for her behavior. We’re all here to support you, Cliccy. Keep on keeping on.

[@Badgerpaw]

It wasn't enough for the milk to be sad, she wanted it to be spoiled.

[@DrawciaGleam02]

Sad milk really was an accurate name.... Where'd they get the idea for that name in the first place???

[@dorkydragon5055]

Truly curdling actions that she could act this whey. At the time being a newer fan there wasn't much reason to cry over spilled discord drama but I'm so glad most left for greener pastures. So sad one person can sour the moo'd so severely. Utter bullshite.

[@robinchesterfield42]

I guess you could say it....r/agedlikemilk? I'll see myself out.

[@VanyaBraginsky]

She conveniently forgot that English isn't your first language, so of course you wouldn't have known that those words were bad or distasteful to use.

[@dicklover4203]

people need to realise this more, like I live in a (while English is a common second language and most people semi understand it) country that just doesn't speak that much English slurs in English in here are taken as like the same level of saying fuck or stupid the equivalents of those in my native language aren't commonly said because they are commonly known as slurs people need to understand that English isn't the centre of the universe language wise

[@damascus9876]

It’s not even his SECOND language as far as I’m aware lmao. He’s really fluent now but it makes sense that a DECADE AGO or more he wouldn’t be aware of the context or meaning of some slurs. He was probably just learning English at that point!

[@gigi2k326]

Just watched Lo Lyse's video about all this & she said you have the dreamiest voice, so I ran to check it out for myself. She was NOT wrong. Damn your voice is smooth as silk

[@ArtDumbster]

I used to watch iilluminaughtii, then I felt that her content was becoming more about just randomly bashing people and companies. Didn't know about this, holy shit :/

[@YourLittlePhoenix]

Blair's behaviour is very much giving creepshow art, it's so uncanny

[@the_pseudo_nim]

I said the same thing. Very much that.

[@idiotwithopinions581]

Omg yes. Forgot about creepshow.

[@OllieAzazel]

Exactly what I was thinking. I'm unsubscribing to her just like I did with Shannon. That fr hurts. She was a comfort youtuber....

[@beachpingu9464]

I agree.

[@felixhenson9926]

Which is so ironic because i found out about creepshow art through Blair

[@XDrZaneX]

Blair ending up as Shannon 2.0 is just sad. I hope Click can see he's appreciated, supported, and that he really can take a break. We'll be right here when he gets back. And hopefully he returns refreshed, healthy, and in a good mental place.

[@Lucaz99]

She’s actually worst than Shannon. CreepShowArt was a sick stalker but her focus was one person. I get the feeling Blair would go to such lengths as to pay 200 dollars just to get some dirt on The Click. Sounds like something out of “House of Cards” or a mob story. I feel she would do this to anyone she felt crossed her

[@BootyCrusader]

It’s kinda weird cause I always felt that Blair reminded me of Shannon.

[@noxiouschocolate9644]

@@BootyCrusader yeah back then I remember comparisons being made- I actually first started watching her after there was -apparently- some drama with rslash but they sorted it out. it’s disappointing that things ended up like this.

[@Aklaex]

I was just about to say she reminded me of Sharon lol.

[@AngryBudgieNoises]

I will say I saw this comment before watching, and was like “nah she didn’t stalk like Shannon” then I got to the end of the video and well, yeah this is messed up.

[@amandacook8003]

I was a former follower of Blair. After educating myself on the situation, I have unsubscribed from her channel and I'm here to support you.

[@db_524]

Welcome in.

[@shadowrose1859]

Me too. Had this not happened I would have never heard of him (and thus likely not followed him) as I wasn't a follower of Sad Milk when it was still around. Turns out the guy makes entertaining content 😅

[@odd-eyesdragoon1024]

I absolutely love how Click is handling this and taking it seriously.

[@giftedfox4748]

You kind of need too in the KZbin world. If you don't then it could backfire against you (looking at you Blair) and ruin what you have created.

[@annef0x]

This whole situation is giving major Creepshow vibes. From the multiple sock puppet accounts to the arguing with herself through said sock puppet accounts. Wild-

[@XoCandyHeartzXo]

Exactly what I was thinking. I always got similar vibes from both Blair and Shannon, not good vibes but I dismissed them since I thought I was just misunderstanding them. Turns out my gut feeling was right about both of them.

[@olivesalad]

I was thinking the same thing omg

[@chaosgirl8552]

I got the same vibes. Digging up dirt on people when they were minors, showing comments without context, using alt accounts to harass them... It's so yikes.

[@Forestdude-be6ud]

Guess we should be getting TRO on the line? In depth analysis would be nice because I'm lazy, but the majority seem to be on Click's side and his evidence is compelling.

[@damenwhelan3236]

​@Forestdude9000 The "I'm sorry for being a victim" video blair put out was just wild.

[@rosiekittengirl760]

"If you go about your day and meet one butthole, you meet a butthole. If you go about your day and everyone's a butthole, you're a butthole." The fact that EVERY SINGLE ONE of Blair's friends has turned on her is very telling.

[@VelociraptorAnimations]

Whoever made that quote dropped this 👑

[@zeilouswolf]

"HIS FIRST LANGUAGE ISN'T AMERICAN! KILL HIM!" honestly i was a big fan of hers, her content on autism helped me to educate so many on the ins and outs of the community's stuggles and history and who not to trust, and as an autistic i met a lot of people who could really benefit from the info, but this is just embarrasing. she let the drama overtake her. truely dissapointing.

[@ryanwatson7346]

23:23 her saying that her vocab wasn't like that click's 10 years ago is such a flawed argument because she's a native English speaker and click isn't and also they grew up differently surrounded by a different culture and different people

[@dorkchops]

all of this coming out because she snapped at a lawyer for ripped paper and highlighter is the most scrumptious karma i’ve seen in a while

[@nevaehhamilton3493]

She's gonna have to go back to court eventually

[@m.t.4648]

I still don't understand how this click thing was related on the legaleagle thing. I don't wan't to give her more views so Im not going to watch her video again. In my mind i went like "I shat my self because legaleagle was about to sue me, and anyways click is a p*do or at least likes them"😂 what actually happend?

[@pola5195]

@@m.t.4648 it's like 2 minutes of "i apologized for my dumb editors making me accuse legal eagle of plagarism", then 5 minutes of fighting hbomberguy's tweet, and then she just launches into sorry my old firend's a pedo. i watched through a reaction vid and was constantly skipping back because i couldn't believe the thematic whiplash honestly

[@jengibs]

She got destroyed in the court of public opinion, and Legal Eagle didn't have to lift a finger for it to happen. You love to see it.

[@Shadow1Yaz]

I’m not 100% sure why she decided to accuse a *lawyer* of a crime?? Even if you’re rather well read, would one step up to a professional in their field???

[@ZinTyPhoon]

I've known for awhile that Blair is a hypocrite and a diva, but knowing that she's been harassing you and the others like this is... well, just evil.

[@cuckoophendula8211]

To me, it won't be long before people see this video here as the equivalent of the Emily Artful video that ended Creepshow.

[@josephdent9406]

??????????????

[@reckless_herb]

i always got bad vibes but couldn’t quite pin down why.

[@murlocmaster6192]

THEN WHAT WAS WONDER????? IF BLAIR WAS EVIL WHAT WAS WONDER???? Click was a jackwagon during that time too!

[@cajunseasoning1846]

@@cuckoophendula8211 thats exactly what it feels like

[@moshunit96]

This makes me so angry. All the gaslighting and lies from her are just disgusting. She is so vindictive. To lie and basically accuse someone of supporting sexual abuse of a minor is appalling and nearly as bad as the act itself due to the damage it inflicts. It can ruin lives. That alone should have her taken off the platform.

[@ElkiaStellar]

I feel so bad for liking her for so long, she came off to me as a sassy slay queen and I'm disappointed she really went gaslight and gatekeep without the girlboss.

[@katylepetsos7512]

Same, I’m mad at myself for liking her back then, but, it’s not our faults, she convinced us that she was cool, but it’s good that we now learned who she truly is as a person.

[@ElkiaStellar]

@@katylepetsos7512 yeah, it's so sad that 90% of the cool youtubers we like turn out to be fucking asholes.

[@giftedfox4748]

The way that I see it, if you enjoyed the videos back then without knowing the dirt then it isn't your fault. A lot of this was behind closed doors or off the net so hard for any viewer to really see the signs of the abuse she was giving others. I also see it, if you like the videos then that is okay. The videos were most likely researched by other people working under her who had to deal with her abuse. They were certainly edited together as well (explains why Blair had no idea what a plugin was on the Legal Eagle email) by people under her. All she does is the voice over and put in her sass and extra agenda lines into them. I won't say keep watching as only Blair gets the money directly and most likely will keep it for herself (also explains why she just had 28k laying around for the down payment of a 60k car)

[@springkiller1475]

Paying 200$ to someone to find bad words you said years ago, is incredibly petty and toxic, she deserves everything she's getting except her audience

[@julsharvell7335]

Don't worry, according to her social blade, she's bleeding subscribers

[@jamesjorgen8147]

​@@julsharvell7335 giving "social blade" a whole new meaning

[@InsanityVirus]

From what I've seen online and understand, she's losing a good amount of subscribers over this. I def unfollowed when this all started coming out, from multiple sources. She has cool content that I watched on and off throughout the years, but someone this toxic and petty is not someone I wanna support or even watch

[@MarchuxProductions]

Especially since he's from a different country and culture, plus his native language is different. Not knowing how serious some slurs are actually happens legitimately when your whole cultural landscape is different and you start speaking your 2nd or 3rd language. For example, as a teen, I knew that the n-word (no hard Rs here) shouldn't be said by white European suburb kids like me, but since my only exposure to it was GTA SA and gangster films, I had NO CLUE what the real connotation was. I have since learnt and now understand the reasoning way better. Still not fully, but better. You have to give some leeway to people from completely different places and walks of life, especially if they're willing to learn.

[@johnpayne5590]

@@jamesjorgen8147 the sword of Damocles has fallen

[@alpharadium]

I find it funny how Blair basically makes videos on people doing stuff like what she had done and then she does it herself.

[@andreaseverin1346]

That's true because I know her vids are generally very good, and I'll still be coming back to them. But she should probably make a video about herself after the dust settles lmao

[@vivil2533]

How do you think she learned, these tricks.

[@damionlee7658]

The people who shout the loudest in condemnation of a particular action or trait, are often doing so as camouflage.

[@Jays-Dream]

@@andreaseverin1346 I know she already made a video about it called Illuminaughtii exposed where she apologizsed to LegalEagle. But she also tried to kind of.. make excuses for her behaviour? Its a long and convoluted video so its a bit werid

[@UchaNekome]

@@damionlee7658 That depends. But yeah in this case that is very true. Blair really dissapointed me.

[@floralstar3566]

Click’s voice in the added bit is so heartbreaking, hearing his voice sound like he’s about to cry 😥 i

[@justlikethewizard]

Yikes, the way she twisted things is a huge red flag EDIT: as someone who was directly abused by the r-slur (my stepdad's favorite thing to call me when i did something neurodivergent). I hate that word. I have a confession to make: I used it as a teenager. Also used the word gay in a negative way. These aren't good things, I wouldnt use them anymore. I'M gay, and neurodivergant, and trans. I grew up in a small conservative town, I had a lot of internalized shit but to be clear even if someone wasnt I do not think people being stupid as kids should shadow them their whole life. People change. Click has been working hard to cultivate a positive community and trying his best to listen when told if things upset some of his fans since his first language isn't english (re: the r-word). Click I will be honest, you've been a massive positive force in my life with your videos. You continue to try and improve yourself and it's easy to see. I'm sorry about the harrassment she's put you through. Take care of yourself please.

[@HiImWonder]

Thank you for standing up and being public. Thank you for being a voice. I'm sorry for everything that happened, everything I directly took part in, and I'm sorry how far this went. I appreciate your kind words at the end regarding my mental health. I intend to clairfy these (as I'd preceive) cherry picked and false anecdotal claims and how wrong it was to put my mindset on blast as well as the blatant false timeline regarding my employment and who I am. Thank you for everything Click. Much love. Please rest well. I know how stressful this has been for you the last week.

[@LadyPinkmonsta]

Truly wishing for the best for you, Wonder.

[@tinykittenlollipop1]

Wishing you all the best Wonder. I'm so sorry for everything you had to endure as well with all of this (including the financial abuse you endured). Everyone part of this deserved so much better. Sending all the love and hugs your way (if you want the hugs if not, then at least take the love and positive vibes). Take care of yourself through all of this too and thank you for speaking out your story as well.

[@kimtheidk]

Truly wishing you the best Wonder

[@crowbeatsme]

Wonder, mister, you gotta produce more content, because I want more of it. Grow and become full time pls and ty

[@rileytheflower]

I'm so sorry for everything you went through, Wonder. You didn't deserve any of this--no one did. I'm sorry for this current drama, especially since it probably hits close to him. Stay safe and prioritize self-care, okay? You've got people who really care about you.

[@isaackraus9779]

I got into iilluminaughtii through her Anti-MLM content. Disapointing that she went down this route.

[@Enoploteuthidea]

I tapped out of her content a lot earlier because she covered a topic I had a bit more personal knowledge on (Sea World, specifically its an area with a lot of misinformation on the nature of whale care and animal husbandry mixed in with some valid criticisms and incorrect criticisms warped off those reasonable ones) and it was extremely clear her research on the topic was very surface level and prone to just collecting the easiest or most repeated information without actually thoroughly breaking it down- which makes sense when your making a lot of content or covering a lot of topics, but if your specifically dealing with content thats going to be swarming with muddled information being through is a requirement in order to pick out the junk from the facts. It ended up really opening my eyes to the fact her coverage on many of her topics was about as reliable as a twitter thread from a guy with an anime avatar, fun to hear about for thirty minutes but probably inaccurate in a lot of places. It would be one thing if she was very good about following up on old topics with any new information she gets, or slowed down and increased her research phase to cover her weaknesses in certain topics, but everything i've seen recently suggests she takes criticism pretty poorly.

[@sergalez1.06]

In my case i stop seeing her the moment she made a video of J.K.Rowling, calling her a TERF and other things, taking post out of context and saying that the pharse: "Theres some experiences that only biological Women can have" Was somehow hate language, It was at that moment that I found she was really manipulative and a liar.

[@Julia-tk2em]

@@sergalez1.06 J.K Rowling IS a terf though.

[@emmadenton1826]

Same. I unsubscribed to her when she chose the "quantity over quality" approach to her videos. The level of research took an obvious dive but the amount of ads shot up, it was so clear what her priorities had become. But I'm not on twitter so I missed ALL this drama 😅

[@emmadenton1826]

​@@sergalez1.06calling JKR a terf is not a bad thing 😂

[@loverrlee]

Wow Blaire is just straight up crazy paying people to dig up dirt on you and then using alt accounts responding to herself. That is so creepy.

[@user-yg4pj4ed6p]

The clickl: sleeps Blair: grrrruuuggghh u let a predator go around your server on purpose

[@obiesenpai3869]

I am neurodivergent myself, specifically autistic and diagnosed when I was 3 years old, and I always used to joke about being an r-word with my friends whom I was comfortable not masking around. Whenever people say that "this person said the r-word ten years ago they should be cancelled" I just roll my eyes.

[@passionate_possum_pal]

Right, it doesn't make sense to cancel someone for saying a word they didn't really grasp the meaning of?? Esp since he's done so much since then to rectify that to align with his current morals

[@FunSizeSpamberguesa]

@@passionate_possum_pal and let's face it, casual use of the word was still normalized in America in 2012. Someone learning ESL at the time would have had little reason to realize it even was a slur unless someone told them. Once somebody did, he stopped using it. That Blair tried to make it into an issue is pathetic.

[@wanderroberts2438]

I completely get that though I didn't get my own diagnosis till I was 18. But growing up through the 80s and 90s it was such a common use word. It still is in some sense. Such an interchangeable word with stupid. I would say its been pretty much dying out in the last 5 years.

[@JutlandAngel]

What got to me was that she said she's never used it, which I'm calling bullshit on.

[@supimzazz]

I would say that the only ones making it sound more awful than it actually is are the only ones that get offended over it. I honestly hate how they wanna treat people with impairment as if they were babies which is more offensive than the word itself.

[@Skellitor301_VA]

"I am going to get a drink and touch grass" What a fantastic way to end a video. You deserved better my guy.

[@DocHolliday1851]

I'm Blasian and completely understand the concept that people might say something wrong while they're still learning *a second language.* It's common and not hard to understand this. Those words left your vocab once you learned the full implication. Imo, your apology on it wasn't needed, but props to you Click. The fact that Blair ignores this, harps on, and pushes her agenda of you being a -ist means she's either well aware she's full of BS, or she was dropped on her head as a baby. Considering this is Blair, it has to be the former. Seriously, what is her malfunction?

[@yomeiko]

I almost broke too seeing Mark almost crying when he discovered who was the person who harassed him for so long. Seeing the funny, sweet and caring person who greets us every video saying how we smell nice almost break down is truly heartbreaking. I didn't follow any of the drama stuff since I don't use twitter or watch Blaire's channel, and this video was extremely informative about everything.

[@kamisarma]

I haven't even watched his content until now and I still felt that deep feeling of betrayal when he found out what Blaire has done. I would also be devastated in his situation. Hope he keeps going. People like Blaire deserve to just be forgotten. I'm gonna unsub from her because I don't want to have anything to do with that type of person even if she makes interesting videos. I've seen her apology and I was left feeling neutral. After seeing Clicks video... I'n not neutral anymore.

[@bensoncheung2801]

Pure evil.

[@bubblegum6828]

it is heartbreaking… like i wish i could give him a hug rn. The biggest hug and support him through this.

[@LittleSilva422]

You dont have twitter? Ok... btw you dropped this👑

[@BhappyD]

Heartbreaking indeed. I’ve experienced that level of betrayal before. It’s absolutely soul crushing. Someone you once trusted betraying you like that destroys your ability to trust others, possibly forever. You second guess nearly every relationship. You’re always questioning in the back of your mind whether or not someone else is capable of hurting you that badly. If they’ll take your trust and instead turn around and stab you in the back with it, like your trust is a weapon for them to wield against you in the most hurtful ways possible. It’s hard to recover from. I feel immense empathy for anyone who has experienced it. I’ll never understand how someone can do something like this to others, let alone someone they supposedly once considered a “friend.” That someone can find this satisfying and fulfilling to do to another person, as if it is their life force. It’s beyond mental illness, it’s evil.

[@gerstein03]

Man you can tell how distraught and dumbfounded Click was seeing the alt account. How horrified he was to see just how far Blair was going to screw him over. The disbelief on his face that someone he'd considered a friend would do all this. Blair needs serious mental help because doing this kind of thing is actually insane. Click I'm sorry you had to go through all this. You're a good guy. A lesser man might not be able to forgive Wonder and Oz for what they did and they would be completely justified. It takes immense strength of character to forgive people who wrong you, strength of character you most definitely possess

[@shayknox1023]

Dude, and the sound of genuine heartbreak in his voice too... Really speaks volumes

[@LexusLFA554]

That is why I love his channel. He is just such a genuine bean.

[@tumblingartist]

He just sounds progressively more disappointed and in disbelief as the video goes on

[@TheKristenMcLaughlin]

That broke my heart, Mark realizing just how far Blaire went (and keeps going) to smear his good name. For someone who was once a close friend...that hits harder than a random internet argument. It goes above and beyond into some serious stalker ish. I'm not a discord person, but a loyal YT viewer, and my partner and I send Mark all the love and support we can without being too parasocial about it! We support you!!

[@ksdtsubfil6840]

To me the creepy thing about "forgetting to switch sock puppet accounts" is that while it is dumb, one reason I could think anyone with any experience on the internet would forget is if they have multiple accounts.

[@samuelbarber6177]

Ah, so she’s not just a plagiarist, she’s not just spreading misinformation, she’s also an abhorrent person. Lovely.

[@BinturongGirl]

Came for the drama, paused for the voice, lingered for the googly eyes, cancelled plans for the wholesome adorableness, stayed for the emotional support demon.

[@mr.calamity8886]

How surreal, it feels like I'm watching a Corporate Casket but Iilluminaughtii is on the chopping block. Goddamn.

[@SeanStrife]

The Click out here just casually Thanos-snapped her whole-ass career out of existence with his video here.

[@alicebrey]

​@@SeanStrifeGoddamn, you burned her!

[@petervasil6159]

@@alicebrey *incinerated

[@massgunner4152]

Always found that name dumb anyway, Blair didn't kill any company nor they were dead when she made those videos.

[@alespic]

You either die as a hero…

[@minutestomins2379]

I've never seen or heard Click sound so sad or defeated before. Take all the time you need to sort things out, Click. We'll be here when you're ready. Don't force yourself for our sake. Make sure to do what's best for you.

[@scientificallyaccuratespino]

Reply to get this comment more likes. I agree 100%

[@mysticdawn4033]

Agree ^^^

[@TigerFucker]

Sad yes, but defeated, Neverrrrr! He just annihilated her with this video and she gave him all the reason and evidence to do so lol. It's still heartbreaking to see that someone goes actively out of their way for years just to hurt him like this tho.

[@ToxicServalFox]

same, honestly I nearly cried cuz he's a huge comfort youtuber for me along with Kwite

[@witherschat]

The pre-editing part was typical Click. The post-editing part was heart-shattering.

[@tiny-bumblebee]

The part edited in was so heartbreaking for me. I can't believe that someone would have to go through such horrible things. I'm sorry Click

[@DrakeDraco2000]

As a neurodivergent gay person... I can't hold the things someone said *ten years ago* against them, much less as *a teenager.* I can barely hold a grudge that long against people who have harmed me _personally._ And that takes, like, trauma. I _can't_ be angry about that here, because that person is _dead,_ because none of us are the same people we were 10 years ago (hell, most of us aren't the same people we were before COVID), and in Click's case, your actions since have spoken to your repudiation of that behavior a thousand times over. Unless it still bothers you, you have nothing to apologize for, and screw anyone who demands you do after this long. Not that I speak for the LGBT+ or neurodivergent communities 'cuz we're not a monolith, but like, logically? Any time I hear someone bring up such old "evidence" (like what happened with James Gunn or even other KZbin personalities like Lindsay Ellis), I already know it's the most flimsy, bad faith smear campaign. If I were using that as a source in a research paper, I'd be asked to cite something more recent and relevant instead. Unless that person's actions in the past are consistent with their personality in the present (which usually means that person has gotten *worse* with audacity rather than better with maturity), it's just kicking a dead horse in the hopes some grubs will fall out. If anything it shows personal growth which is something worth _celebrating,_ and says way worse about the person bringing it up. The only way that evidence can be persuasive is if someone wants to live in a world where literally _nothing_ someone can do will be forgiven or forgotten. Ever. No matter how much they grow or how many times they apologize, the fact that that it can be brought up _a decade_ after the fact means it's not actually about "holding them to account" at all, but rather about holding _ammunition._ It's narcissistic, and fatally self-unaware, 'cuz one has to assume everyone is as manipulative of the facts as they are to find value in the "evidence" and _still_ believe it paints them in a good light. We're not talking even about an event that caused lasting damage that still affects the world today, we're talking about something said by _a teenager,_ who barely spoke English, on a video you have to _dig_ for. Like, Click didn't assault or kill someone, he didn't spill a thousand gallons of oil in the ocean or build a pipeline through sacred lands, I doubt he even advocated violence, he just said a couple "naughty words" in poor taste. If anyone _was_ ever under such extreme conditions that an impersonal comment _could_ cause them tangible harm, then it's just the straw that breaks the camel's back at worst, not the two-ton lead weight that compromised it in the first place, so let's calm down there, 'cuz who is this BS protecting really. There are far more destructive things to be outraged about and far better uses of energy than drumming it up for that. It just frustrates.

[@gdgm1]

Even 2 years later you can see in Click’s eyes how much it hurt him to know it was Blaire all along behind that account ( you cannot fake that emotion ) these are real emotions Blaire, not like your crocodile tears at the end of your “apology” video

[@krazgurl]

I just want to give him a hug. The betrayal in his eyes is heart breaking

[@gdgm1]

@@krazgurl same. Sending all of you a big hug and my best wishes. 😘

[@purpleemerald5299]

What even happened between her and OZ?

[@rubymeaddle]

​@@purpleemerald5299 what I've been able to glean is he basically was constantly running defense for her and he lost most of his friends, then he finally saw her for what she was.

[@anastasiao4036]

@@rubymeaddle It's the typical good person gets manipulated and dragged into bad things by a narcissist type of situation. Oz is a good person, and was trying to do what he thought was right, and didn't realize what was going on until it was too late

[@AlphaDelilas]

I remember when there was a huge blow up in the art-commentary community where CreepShow turned out to be a stalker ruining someone else's life. Back then I saw people saying that Illuminaughtii was just as terrible and would get exposed at some point. So wild to see exactly how nasty she's been.

[@francisstabile4026]

You know, that was the rumor that made me stop watching her channel. And I found Oz, Click and OT through her. There was just to much smoke and was giving strange vigilante vibe. The vendetta vigilante ones.

[@christinaify]

Two people leave your company…so you create alt accounts to launch a smear campaign against them. Totally rational reaction from a stable mind.

[@jacquimott386]

I can’t express how sad seeing Click in the 5 minute add in has made me feel. When you have gone through an event that has been painful, makes you doubt your self worth and is a possible trigger of a major depression is a dreadful experience. You then start to feel like you can breathe and are coming to terms with it. When you then discover (sometimes years later) that a person you were close to was actually behind that event it feels like your whole world crashes back down, but hits even harder because it rocks your ability to trust. I found this absolutely heartbreaking 😢

[@cosmecentis7714]

Saying I’m disappointed would be the greatest understatement of the century. I used to love Blaire but this is beyond harmful and harassment. All my love to Click and all her victims

[@mrmidnight6341]

Same dude :(

[@miya6008]

She has to have mental problems.. I don’t like her, but I hope she gets some sort of help.

[@hampter3819]

Bro- I f'ing quoted her for my highschool presentation...

[@cosmecentis7714]

@@miya6008 yeah for sure

[@cosmecentis7714]

@@hampter3819 yikes

[@MrSailing101]

She made her identity uncovering conspiracies. She believed so hard she found one she could expose herself, she never realized she had become the conspiracy.

[@iPsychlops]

Deep. And heartbreaking.

[@rynhart4174]

I watched a Trevor Noah comedy special where he discussed the N word and how it didn’t have the same meaning because he grew up in South Africa. He shared a lot about the racism in South Africa and the slurs from there. In fact, he spoke a lot about cultural differences like him not knowing a napkin in America is the same as a napkin in British English (napkin=diaper in UK for those who don’t know. The point is, how do you expect a teenage Swedish kid whose first language isn’t English not knowing the cultural meaning of words from a country he’s not from is not unreasonable. He owned up to the mistake and made steps to correct it. Can any of us say we didn’t say stupid shit when we were teenagers?

[@Tye-Dyed]

I know you suspected she was making alt accounts to generate fake hate comments about you, but to find hard evidence must have hit you so hard. To not just suspect but KNOW that someone you once considered a friend has spent the last couple of years going out of her way to try and ruin your life must be horrifying. I'm just glad that she dug her own grave on this one and now there is no way for her to lie and manipulate her way out of this one. All it takes is for one person to stand up (and I know it can't always be right away, because unfortunately, her popularity grants her a shield and all her paranoid manipulative actions to prevent people from saying things against her). But thanks to you there has been a ripple effect of people finally feeling comfortable enough to finally come out and say what she has done to them.

[@Dioxazine_Stars]

I honestly feel so bad for Click, OT, Wonder, Oz, and everyone she’s dragged into this mess. It’s an uncomfortable feeling remembering how much I used to enjoy her channel.

[@Lillireify]

I was a fan of illuminaughti for 2-3 months, then I decided she gives off too much of "holier than thou" vibe and I stopped watching. Around one year later she (was it her?) dropped the ball with some editor, and now, another week later we're here with multiple people being thrown by her under the bus. I have no idea what the hell is going on, it looks like hot sewage bursting out of pipes left and right and I'm here under my umbrella, happy that my gut feeling about her was right. In the end, it's an entertaining mess to watch. For once comments under her videos don't praise her like a god.

[@dubiousinformation1756]

@@Lillireify Glad I wasn't the only one with that gut feeling. I think it's like some sort of defense mechanism though. Like I've seen it happen with enough KZbinrs that it's getting easier to pick up on.

[@Lillireify]

@@dubiousinformation1756 for me it's not just youtubers, it's everyone who plainly discards the other side of any argument. "My view is the only one valid and everyone who disagrees is wrong". Cmon, we're not 18 anymore (she's 30, for F's sake). She's old enough to know that the world is not black and white, it's at best in shades of grey.

[@lurdesoliveira]

@@Lillireify "holier than thou vibe" that's exactly how I felt watching her videos. And why I stopped watching...

[@cewla3348]

honestly the way she presented OT as not this guy who "does the internet memes to make us smile as a living" in his own words (end of video, one of his MANY thanks for all the attention) but instead as some guy who was trying to speak over her and be assertive and dominant of the conversation when i'm sure it was just him expressing a thought about a channel he takes part in? like it's cooperative, LET THEM SPEAK!

[@toxcbrgr]

You can just see Click getting genuinely sad by the end and it's truly enough to make a grown man cry

[@storyranger]

I was seriously so close to crying during that interlude it's so hard to watch (but important!)

[@melonyreece4195]

That part really broke my heart. I could see he was just trying to hold himself together and in shock at how/why this was happening. I really feel for him and all the rest.

[@Myskitti]

Dude yeah i heard the emotional realization of exactly how far blairs harassment went in his voice and ive never wanted to give someone a hug so badly in my life (yadda yadda parasocial interactions etc but come on the man needs a HUG)

[@Vlad_Tepes_III]

I was wondering why he seemed so distressed when the white t-shirt part began. I thought he was merely exhausted after dealing with all this in one go, but then the alt-account business started.

[@Leviatiemily]

​@@Myskitti I really hate that hugs are used as a weapon to label someone/shame them y'know?

[@spirit2117]

I don’t know why I always manage to find, watch, and subscribe to the toxic commentary channels. First Creepshow now her. Good grief. Thank you for addressing this Cliccy. Also, I’m so sorry you had to deal with this. You, One Topic, and Kubz Scouts are my safe channels. You’re laughs are contagious. Much love.❤️

[@Crispy_Chris1308]

I literally had to put my laptop on my bed and walk around just waving my hands around. Also in the part in the white shirt Click sounded so sad like he jsut cried and it truly broke my heart.

[@mr.tomfuckery5291]

I.. holy shit, I thought I could trust Blair after her autism speaks video, because I am also autistic, and her breaking down the points of Autism Speaks made me feel valid. but GOD DAMN THIS, I feel awful for supporting her

[@l1ghtd3m0n3]

Never meet your heroes, you’ll only be disappointed

[@ThatRPGuywithtoomanyOCs]

I always thought she was pretty level headed in most of her videos. This whole thing has turned me off from her entirely.

[@pieflower6419]

​@@ThatRPGuywithtoomanyOCs it's a shame. Her podcasts were always nice to listen to while working on something else.

[@whoomie]

I was also a fan of illumminatti but I’m also a fan of OT so this whole drama has been very strange. I didn’t even know that they collaborated together at one point I really was out here thinking that they were like seperate lol. Anyway don’t blame urself we didn’t know any better, Blair was very good at making herself look smart when that’s ugh far from the case, what matters is we know now :)

[@zombiezed4927]

I feel the exact same way as you, I'm autistic and it was nice to finally see someone tear apart Autism Speaks like it deserves, little did I know that she was tearing apart other content creators who didn't deserve it. It's heartbreaking to see how hurt Click is by all of this, I can't imagine the pain that all of them have endured from iilluminaughttii, and I'm glad he's finally able to speak up about this.