Create the best kill plots for deer.

We discuss the important aspect of choosing the correct seed for your deer hunting kill plot.
We also talk about what makes a hunting plot as well as what equipment may be needed to create them.
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[@kevinkirby6511]

Thanks John, Tagged out on Va farm on Nov 18. Already mapping out and designing plots for next year. Want to let your listeners know we planted 2 half acre Sweet Feast brassica plots this year and pulled bucks from all the neighbors! BTW thanks for responding so quickly to my emails. Will be ordering the HD plotscreen, the 360 Blend, and of course the brassicas! .

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Well done Congratulations

[@suzmell1]

Everything you mentioned equipment wise is what I use to do my foodplot this year going too be adding harrow drag too the mix I also have a swisher mower that if need be I could tow behind my atv. This is 3/4 of an acre little larger than what you’re talking about great video

[@squirrellyacres]

Thanks for sharing some great information. After watching this video, I think I'm on the right track, just a few more improvement. Thanks for sharing

[@butleroutdoors2188]

Great information, especially with the food plots back in the woods. Many folks overlook the challenge of sunlight and leaf drop.

[@patriot1182]

I am going to try a couple of these this year! Thanks for the great advice!

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

Thank you. I have a bait plot. For deer and bear. Think I did too many hinge cuts. Making too difficult of terrain. Was trying to make bear's move more to get a good shot. But a fisher was able to get small deer in my bait pile on opening day. Wondered why I didn't see the deer. Been seeing them every day while bear hunting.

[@aarongoeppner413]

Might have to give the 360 blend a shot!

[@johnkomp4182]

great blend for this situation

[@tgauge44]

Really interested in the seclusion 360. Can I frost seed that into a plot that had brassicas in this last fall? As you mentioned, brassicas don’t last very long in a small food plot. I think the seclusion will be a good alternative. If not, can I use winter rye as a nurse crop this spring or oats only? Have some rye left over from last year. Thanks much. Have been using your products the last few years with great results!!

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

I would hit the brassica plot once with Round up then seed with oats in the spring

[@tgauge44]

@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 Do I allow the oats to go to full maturity or mow/kill them off part way through the summer? Thanks

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

@@tgauge44 mow the oats a few times around to mid summer

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

Your seclusion blend has everybit as much seed as whitetail institute fusion just minus the seed coating and 20 bucks cheaper. Might need to advertise the no seed coating = more seed.

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Ya That’s crazy what is going in bags and what’s being charged.

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

Sandy soil mix, red clover and seclusion blend. That's probably a good ratio.

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

That would be a good perennial combo

[@markr.1547]

Thanks John! Question is Chicory an annual or perennial? Spring or Fall planting first time?

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Chicory is a perennial. Can be planted spring or fall

[@gregallman3715]

You mentioned using a harrow drag to work the ground, should I also get a disc such as the ground hog max? I'm doing plots for the first time this year on areas that had the trees removed and the soil has never been disturbed before.

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

A small disc may be needed for initial planting. After that the harrow may be all you need. If you in good soil that hold moisture, you may be able to notill ( if doing annuals like grains every year). But that is highly dependent on timely rains.

[@waynegalyen6176]

What is your take on black oats, triticale, winter rye, winter wheat And clovers in the mix

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Tried barley a few times with not much use by the deer. But the grains and clovers are a good combo

[@Mo75149-j]

From October1-March 1, In KS, heavy ag area corn/beans, good soil/sunlight on a 1/4 acre kill plot, would the Seclusion 360 produce more available/attractive tonnage or would the Fall forage blend with radishes added produce more and be a better fit? Looking to build more OM also.

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Either one is a great choice. I would start with the fall forage combo first

[@rfb7117]

John, is there a herbicide that we could use on Clover and Chicory combination planting that would not kill either the Clover or Chicory? After watching the deer in my Clover food plots, the Chicory is their preferred selection...although VERY expensive!!! Thanks, Bob

[@johnkomp4182]

Clethodim for grass. I think I used IMOX on the clover chicory if I remember correctly. Check the label and only do small test area first before spraying the whole plot.

[@rfb7117]

Okay John, thanks.

[@MichOutdoors]

What size of plot do you consider a kill plot? Under .25 acre?

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Ian, A kill plot is more based off location in relation to bedding and the evening food source (destination). But we usually see these at 1/4 acre or less.

[@travissmith-wz5nc]

How much growth can you get on spring chicory???

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Our fall planted Chicory was 8-10 inches. August 1 to Nov 1

[@gregallman3715]

Would you overseed a clover plot with rye to get the deer to continue hitting it into December (Mid-Michigan)? I do have big ag around me, typically corn and beans. So maybe overseed brassica is another option?

[@johnkomp4182]

I really have not had much luck overseeing anything into clover . Rye did work once, but clover seems to thick for much to grow. If tis mowed to the ground , that's another story. Only rye though

[@johncirilli6846]

What are your thoughts on winter wheat?

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

We use some in one of our blends. I really like rye for the aid in OM building as well as ease of establishing it. Oats for early season attraction. Pure winter wheat stands may vary from region to region as far as attraction.

[@johncirilli6846]

@@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663 how do you terminate your rye?

[@Mo75149-j]

@@johncirilli6846 You can mow it, has worked for me, but early than later as it will build up too much of a mulch layer for no till in my opinion. Mow it around 18-24".

[@benborgschatz9525]

What would work best for kill plot that has walnut trees around the plot?

[@northwoodswhitetailsfoodpl2663]

Good question Ben. I’ve heard some bad things about planting around walnut trees. I have seen many in lawns around here so I would think rye would survive.

[@benborgschatz9525]

@Northwoods Whitetails Food Plot Seed okay thank you.