Creatine HCl Versus Creatine Monohydrate

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Dr. Layne Norton

Dr. Layne Norton

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@FanBoy_Prime
@FanBoy_Prime Жыл бұрын
The only reason I’m taking HCl instead of mono hydrate is because of stomach discomfort . Would love to save money but the stomach problems outweighed the benefits. I was just happy there was an alternative that didn’t make me feel like I was going to always poop myself 😂
@coldsteel9420
@coldsteel9420 8 ай бұрын
Makes sense to me. If creatine HCL is more soluble in water that means that a higher percentage of creatine monohydrate won't dissolve in the stomach and would just pass through, probably giving the user diarrhea. For example, if only 1/7 of the the creatine monohydrate vs creatine HCL dissolves in the stomach, then only 1/7 would ever get to the muscles to saturate them. Despite being cheaper per gram, most of it gets wasted.
@Roymustang2008
@Roymustang2008 6 ай бұрын
@@coldsteel9420hey how many gm creatine hcl per day 2.2 gm a scoop mentioned in my hcl Should I take 5gm? I’m new to gym and creatine
@6reezy949
@6reezy949 2 ай бұрын
That's the problem I'm having does HCL not give you diarrhea? Cause the mono is legit destroying me I had to stop but I wanna take creatine
@FanBoy_Prime
@FanBoy_Prime 2 ай бұрын
@@6reezy949 HCI doesn’t give me any trouble at all.
@dkdustin9326
@dkdustin9326 2 ай бұрын
@@6reezy949hcl is definitely superior. It absorbs much better and you only need about 1 gram or a little more to reach saturation vs 5 for mono over the course of a month. The only reason people debate all this is because mono is so cheap to put into their supplements.
@Ulghart
@Ulghart Жыл бұрын
I had bloating and gas using monohydrate. I tried HCL and I noticed 2 things: Great reduction of bloating and gas (I suffer IBS so almost impossible to get rid of all the effects, but the improvement is noticeable), and my stamina and strength while training has also increased. I don't know if the difference is due to regular creatine vs HCL, or maybe I am buying a premium HCL while I used to buy generic creatine, but in any case, at least for me, it does work much better with far better results.
@TODOMATIO
@TODOMATIO Жыл бұрын
Monohydrate didn't work for me either. My body was reacting pretty badly, like it was pure JUNK
@steamstarter
@steamstarter Жыл бұрын
If I take 1/4 scoop of Monhydrate per day (so that's about 1.25g) as I drink it mixed with 10oz of water, I can feel my stomach going during drinking the mix. When I use HCL, zero stomach issues.
@Jewel-888
@Jewel-888 5 ай бұрын
Can you tell me which brand of HCL you use? Very interested. Had a negative experience with Monohydrate as well ..
@Ulghart
@Ulghart 5 ай бұрын
@@Jewel-888 Con-cret
@aaronginsberg5045
@aaronginsberg5045 3 ай бұрын
I have IBS, and went for HCl for this same reason. Never tried Monohydrate. 7 weeks into HCl going to have to stop it's bothering me too much
@titanmaximum239
@titanmaximum239 3 жыл бұрын
Creatine monohydrate is one of those rare thing that is less expensive, but top notch, like Maker's Mark bourbon.
@calebboudreaux2955
@calebboudreaux2955 3 жыл бұрын
Wild Turkey 101 is a better analogy 😉
@thecourtjestertcj7002
@thecourtjestertcj7002 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, completely agree 😂
@whiteboyleflare
@whiteboyleflare 3 жыл бұрын
You lost me at makers mark 🤮
@junkyard-p1s
@junkyard-p1s 3 жыл бұрын
But which brand is best🤔🤔🤔
@cudderkid1336
@cudderkid1336 3 жыл бұрын
Makers is top shelf, you would need to reference a call
@LukeJayden
@LukeJayden 3 жыл бұрын
I love how respectful this man is while giving his opinion on the matter😂
@SkyboundMar
@SkyboundMar 3 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've ever seen this guy and I tell you, I gotta subscribe. The way he just uses research and data and explains things with science and not what he "believes" is refreshing
@not-a-raccoon
@not-a-raccoon 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I subbed based on this video too
@Aneliuse
@Aneliuse Жыл бұрын
What research? He literally does not mention any sources.
@j.r.nicole8527
@j.r.nicole8527 11 ай бұрын
Watch the extensive podcast he does w/Andrew Huberman. You’ll be able to get a good feel on how solid his character is..
@jamesgoodwin7742
@jamesgoodwin7742 2 жыл бұрын
I assumed HCL was trash, but I bought some and have to say it’s pretty damn good. I used to be a super responder to monohydrate but with age I think I don’t absorb bit well anymore. But this HVL version is getting absorb very well.
@darrellstyner0001
@darrellstyner0001 Жыл бұрын
I love Athlean-X and just saw the video you critique. My first thought was, "hmm, I wonder what biolayne thinks of this?" KZbin read my mind and showed me a link to this video. Thanks for making it. You've saved me from throwing out all my creatine monohydrate:).
@theresawebster5802
@theresawebster5802 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for simply clarifying this matter. I’m a very young mother of two and 51 years old and went through cancer treatment/ chemo and radiation twice starting at the onset of 40. All is very well now that I have lost my behind ha ha ha! I am trying so very hard to get it back although it has been extremely difficult because I am a thinner type of woman. I just am trying to make the best decision to promote my workouts so once again thank you. I want to get the cuts down my legs and the round thing on the backside back :-). As I always say no one‘s dying here so let’s make the most of it🌺
@MrTheRalez
@MrTheRalez 7 ай бұрын
I'm 36, and lost 17 kg because of illness, and also my entire ass muscles is gone (sorry for the expression), so now I'm taking HCL and doing heavy exercise, and for now I see some progress with it.
@ElNachoMacho
@ElNachoMacho Жыл бұрын
It's been a minute since I used any supplements, and i found myself in a situation where a GNC employee was trying to push on me creatine HCL when i asked for me monohydrate. Being skeptical of whatever any salesperson says to me, i proceeded with my purchase and found this video immediately after my purchase. Thank God for KZbin and this kind of content.
@naratouzumaki
@naratouzumaki 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I took the GNC creatine and it was good
@j.r.nicole8527
@j.r.nicole8527 11 ай бұрын
I Appreciate Dr Layne Norton’s comprehensive explanation. He is the thinking man’s fitness guru, w/witty humor. I’ll get both types as I test to see what my load up tolerance is..
@big_chungus73
@big_chungus73 3 жыл бұрын
When Chino left a few weeks ago, the video quality went from really good, to really bad. Now it's gone to friggin great. Thanks for all the detailed explanations and animations. I do think Jeff is well intentioned, maybe just a little ignorant on this subject, and sounds like he's repeating what he's been told.
@pietervanderlinde2871
@pietervanderlinde2871 3 жыл бұрын
Love your shit..... No bill, just science. Thx dude
@toddbolden7552
@toddbolden7552 3 жыл бұрын
The reference to sinking to the bottom in the video is a classic. Great info and detail.
@isaacrouth3310
@isaacrouth3310 8 ай бұрын
Love it when someone's willing to explain the science
@a.w.h_957
@a.w.h_957 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to inform us on the facts
@ParindeyInCanada
@ParindeyInCanada 2 жыл бұрын
What i have experienced is Creatine HCL start effecting in like 10 minutes !
@SuperKangbang
@SuperKangbang 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video you helped me finalize my decision. Monohydrate here i come!!
@inovsign
@inovsign 3 жыл бұрын
That video editor was a good find!
@mmiles55
@mmiles55 2 жыл бұрын
This was helpful. I’m going to try HCL because Monohydrate at 5g per day kills me stomach. Awful bloating and gas. I’m excited HCL might be a new option for me.
@lobsterboy64
@lobsterboy64 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried it yet? What is the difference?
@garyrogers-gi1sn
@garyrogers-gi1sn Жыл бұрын
Another great video from one of the smartest fitness and nutrition experts on the planet. I appreciate the info Layne.
@travismann4732
@travismann4732 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone taking creatine, just make sure you are always drinking water. When I was younger I took a shit load of creatine everyday and just drank soda and I landed In the hospital from extreme dehydration, mild kidney failure, Nd I had a grand Mal seizure before any this happened. Creatine in my opinion is extremely safe but just when used properly, which is not hard. Just drink water. Alot of water...
@ElijsDima
@ElijsDima 3 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate how good of a name "creatine" is in terms of marketing? Literally named "thing that creates". That would be like a weight-loss substance named "fatmeltine"...
@apothe6
@apothe6 3 жыл бұрын
Dang I would love some fatmeltine
@Morpheah
@Morpheah 3 жыл бұрын
Word! Back in the early '00s I thought it was a steroid! It sounds much more anabolic in Greek, the root word actually means 'meat'!
@sofiashakur3116
@sofiashakur3116 Жыл бұрын
I thought creatine was derived of the Greek root work kreas for flesh
@Theinfinitefire
@Theinfinitefire Ай бұрын
I’m a wildland fire fighter and I mainly use creatine because it helps give me that extra power when hiking heavy packouts and going up steep terrain. Originally started taking it to build muscle but I noticed there’s a lot more benefits to creatine than just building muscle. I’ve noticed it helps with endurance, brain function and even muscle cramping. One of my coworkers introduced me to creatine HCI and I hated the taste and refused to buy it because it was so much more expensive but I ran out of monohydrate one day while on assignment and he was willing to share his creatine HCI with me. Within a few days started to notice a bit more muscle definition and just felt better overall. I had a hard time believing that HCI could be better than monohydrate because the literature proves monohydrate is extremely effective and there isn’t many studies showing how HCI is any better. But I can no longer deny that HCI is MUCH more effective for me. I personally noticed that the loading phase is much shorter with HCI and that I see much clearer results with it too. It’s also much easier for me to carry a one supply of HCI because it’s so much more compact. I still take monohydrate in the winter because it’s cheaper but in the summer when we’re running and gunning I know I can rely on HCI confidently. I’m curious to see more studies on it as time goes on. I still think monohydrate is great but when given the option I will choose HCI every time
@SuperPratik17
@SuperPratik17 3 жыл бұрын
i have been using monohydrate for almost 3 years now and after a break of 8 months from training i decided to try HCL and i dont have any explanations to this but HCL has given me quick results as compared to monohydrate
@lancer717
@lancer717 3 жыл бұрын
Because it’s much easier and faster to absorb
@bennettblackmon2858
@bennettblackmon2858 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to start taking creatine. I think im going to go the HCL route. What brand do you use or which brand would you suggest?
@jiimmiij4428
@jiimmiij4428 2 жыл бұрын
Bennett Blackmon just got on hcl and god damn it’s taste is horrible
@SuperPratik17
@SuperPratik17 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know we were eating for taste 🤔 it's always been for results to me.. And I used bulk creatine hcl but brand really doesn't matter in a supplement unless its "whey"
@LexusAllTerrain1
@LexusAllTerrain1 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@pcDyji
@pcDyji 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get the dosage aspect of creatine hcl. If creatine monohydrate has a near 100% absorption (once ingested), (meaning if you take in 3g-5g nearly all of it will be absorbed) why would you need to take less creatine hcl (1g-2g). If in both cases a large proportion of creatine is absorbed, the dosages should also be roughly the same. I would figure HCL's solubility is irrelevant in terms of digestion because the stomach has acid which digests both forms well.
@tazRenegade
@tazRenegade 3 жыл бұрын
I really like how you presented the information in a respectful and informative way. A refreshing way to enjoy KZbin videos 😁
@camilogonzalez3769
@camilogonzalez3769 3 жыл бұрын
Creatine monohydrate would give me stomach issues. Never had any issue of any kind with HCL and it got me strong as fuck. So for some of us, HCL is the best choice.
@chrisg8p
@chrisg8p 3 жыл бұрын
I was legit about to comment this..... Dude needs to research more
@junkyard-p1s
@junkyard-p1s 3 жыл бұрын
Which brand do you use???🤔🤔
@camilogonzalez3769
@camilogonzalez3769 3 жыл бұрын
@@junkyard-p1s monohydrate or hcl?
@junkyard-p1s
@junkyard-p1s 3 жыл бұрын
@@camilogonzalez3769 either
@camilogonzalez3769
@camilogonzalez3769 3 жыл бұрын
@@junkyard-p1s I tried the EAS one, and i would throw it up literally as soon as I took it, then I tried the hcl for concrete, beyond raw, kaged and now I'm on bulk supplements hcl and never had an issue with any of those
@self-purpose
@self-purpose Ай бұрын
Summary of Solubility Comparison Creatine Monohydrate: Solubility: ~0.6 g per 100 mL of water Tends to leave undissolved particles, especially in cold water. Creatine Hydrochloride (HCl): Solubility: ~1.5 g per 100 mL of water Dissolves easily in both hot and cold liquids, leaving minimal to no residue.
@ajmortara8807
@ajmortara8807 3 жыл бұрын
I spat out my coffee when I saw that Titanic clip! Lol.
@henrynwokoro4751
@henrynwokoro4751 Жыл бұрын
😅
@pepelepew2690
@pepelepew2690 4 ай бұрын
Its been proven that there was loads of space, she didnt want to share.
@jukkis6699
@jukkis6699 3 жыл бұрын
So as someone who does not know fitess, chemistry or suplements and is watching videos to learn, its funny how athlean X and biolayne said the exact same thing. Creatine HCl and Creatine Monohydrate do the same thing. The point is you should try to see which feels better for you as they do the same thing, with a bit different amounth and time (and cost). And of course its two dudes who have their own lines of products which they use themselves and feels good to them and found research to support their results.
@FreshMootz
@FreshMootz 2 жыл бұрын
Well detailed, respectful debate against Jeff's claims. I use HCL because I have an issue with my stomach and monohydrate will give me stomach discomfort. I dont care if it's a little expensive.
@anthonymoreno640
@anthonymoreno640 2 жыл бұрын
When you say discomfort can you describe it or like do I have to take it too understand it ?
@FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL
@FffffffffffffffffffffffffffffL 2 жыл бұрын
Do you notice any difference with water retention? Do you look less bloated on HCL?
@tannerhewison2579
@tannerhewison2579 3 жыл бұрын
Video editing etc. is great Layne! Keep up the good videos. Thank you!
@kw2537
@kw2537 3 жыл бұрын
I take creatine HCL cuz monohydrate = RIP my guts even at low doses.
@Fjerid
@Fjerid 3 жыл бұрын
Do you notice any benefits from HCL? My digestion has been fucked up for a couple of years now, stable at the moment but small irritations like using creatine do flare up the stomach.
@kw2537
@kw2537 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fjerid it seems to be working, but honestly I just take creatine because the research says I should. I haven't had any GI distress from HCL at all.
@jDot2414
@jDot2414 3 жыл бұрын
Same! Kills my stomach, hcl only creatine I can handle
@earlcoles5215
@earlcoles5215 3 жыл бұрын
@@Uncle-Bull what is the most effective creatine HCL dosage? I've been reading that people take in 2 grams , correct me if im wrong but it just seems under dosed, what is your opinion on this , if I pay for an expensive creatine, I want to get the most effect out of it without any regrets.
@lancer717
@lancer717 3 жыл бұрын
SAME
@dinodude4486
@dinodude4486 3 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video! Gave me memories of biochem in university. Happy lifting mate
@mexorean001
@mexorean001 2 жыл бұрын
I don't water bloat on hcl so I look leaner. On monohydrate I look alot bigger. But both give me my strength benefits.
@supreme7770
@supreme7770 3 жыл бұрын
I will go with creatine hydrochloride cuz i do not want to play with my body in order to see that does monohydrate bloats me or not..i hope every new users will agree
@earlcoles5215
@earlcoles5215 3 жыл бұрын
what is the most effective creatine HCL dosage? I've been reading that people take in 2 grams , correct me if im wrong but it just seems under dosed, what is your opinion on this , if I pay for an expensive creatine, I want to get the most effect out of it without any regrets.
@dadgonewild381
@dadgonewild381 4 ай бұрын
1. You asked if Jeff Athleanx has an updated video. He does and he explains more about HCL Creatine. But it's not relevant to me because I live in Thailand and hcl ain't available (cost, I think. P.us, my buddy says it tases horrible. 3, QUESTION: The guy at the supplement shop showed me a creatine mono that was extra "nano filtered" to make it more soluble in stomach. What do you think of that? Thx
@nobodymr2146
@nobodymr2146 3 жыл бұрын
You my friend are an amazing editor. And because of stumbling on this video and you referenced the titanic deserves a subscribe. Love the IG content battles though.
@GatCat
@GatCat Жыл бұрын
After researching I found the answer for me. Take both.
@pumpkineater6937
@pumpkineater6937 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using creatine monohydrate for a month, without the loading phase, and it definitely got me bloated, i'vd also had problems with my stomach, i think it's very much about the single person, there's not a right answer.
@macnfoster
@macnfoster 3 жыл бұрын
Very correct. It is definitely about the individual experience, and how your body reacts. I used monohydrate for a couple years and noticed the bloating, constantly feeling dehydrated, while having to get up 6 times a night because I needed to pee every hour, on the hour. Changed to hcl about 8 years ago, and haven't noticed a single side effect. Also noticed that I can take a couple months off from the gym and hardly notice any loss in mass and cut so long as I continue taking the hcl.
@glaaniiTonio
@glaaniiTonio 3 жыл бұрын
I've had the same GI issues. Respectfully, to the channel, HCl has helped me greatly. Monohydrate would absolutely wreck my stomach, but it was something that I needed to take; side effects be damned. Got talked into trying HCl out, and aside from the taste, it has helped tremendously.
@believeinjesus8300
@believeinjesus8300 2 жыл бұрын
Does it cause you a lot of burping?
@artisticov1469
@artisticov1469 Жыл бұрын
@@macnfosterwhat brand you are using?
@macnfoster
@macnfoster Жыл бұрын
@@artisticov1469 Muscletech cell-tech creactor. I'm hooked on the Fruit punch flavor
@stevenm732
@stevenm732 Жыл бұрын
I just randomly decided to try HCL after a random stop at GNC to grab an energy drink and remembered I’m out of creatine. The guy mentioned it’s salty so I tried the powder dry, but sour for sure! But I like sour. So I put it in my athletic greens and hot dog does it tastes freaking good. So good I just might buy HCL from now on lmao.
@cubanadelrey
@cubanadelrey Жыл бұрын
which brand and flavor did you get? the creatine HCl i got is so terrible. i dread taking it.
@travelear5450
@travelear5450 3 жыл бұрын
last time i watched a video of you was like 8 months ago. and believe me, the video quality has really increase, i like the vedio editing and the funny side of how the video is made , and also the way you inserte animation to understand chemical reactions. KEEP THE GOOD and let's hope the youtube algorithm becomes more friendly toward this channel
@ChattanoogaDan
@ChattanoogaDan 2 жыл бұрын
The Pre-Workout I use is pretty mild but has three grams of creatine monohydrate. I use that on my workout days and creatine HCL on my off days. Not by design, I just happened to have both.
@Donnywarrhammer
@Donnywarrhammer Жыл бұрын
I don't mix my creatine. I put the pure powder in my mouth and then wash it down with a big swig of water. Doesn't seem to make a difference compared to when I was mixing it. It all gets in your system. From my experience taking either one of them hasn't had much of a difference in performance but the hydrochloride doesn't make me feel as bloated.
@ken_wilkens
@ken_wilkens 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Layne Norton - always getting in the way of a good story!😂.
@randomjake1488
@randomjake1488 3 жыл бұрын
I am one of those people that is here because I’ve been taking mono hydrate for 2 months and my bloating is too much. I’m going to switch to HCL to get rid of my belly bloating. I also never loaded and I am well past the 28 days people typically bloat and then stop bloating.
@jackfischer6670
@jackfischer6670 3 жыл бұрын
HCL for me at least works best. The taste is awful, but after a week you get used to it.
@randomjake1488
@randomjake1488 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackfischer6670 I use muscle tech’s lemon flavor. It’s actually pretty good.
@junkyard-p1s
@junkyard-p1s 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackfischer6670 Which one do you use? Have you seen any results?🤔🤔
@jamesechevarria4813
@jamesechevarria4813 3 жыл бұрын
2gms?
@chrissimorales41
@chrissimorales41 6 ай бұрын
I hope they do more studies on HCL, I’ve noticed there are so many comments here about positive experiences with it but not really seeing anything negative about it. I do see negativity about monohydrate though. I’ve been hesitant to try it because I have a very sensitive stomach. I’m going to try out HCL instead
@Aneliuse
@Aneliuse 4 ай бұрын
Then let me gove you one. Its extremely acidic. Like, ph 2. Mix it with a base
@jetstreams6403
@jetstreams6403 3 жыл бұрын
All I know is I take Creatine HC1 and it gives me noticeable strength and appearance changes in less than a week
@MrSightsman
@MrSightsman 3 жыл бұрын
I’d have to agree with you on that one
@salmanshah3846
@salmanshah3846 2 жыл бұрын
You take it pre or post ?
@jetstreams6403
@jetstreams6403 2 жыл бұрын
@@salmanshah3846 it tastes like salt water on its own so I usually mix it with my pre workout
@salmanshah3846
@salmanshah3846 2 жыл бұрын
@@jetstreams6403 and does it give you good results ? I have muscletech creatine hcl ...and No explode pre workout
@christopherdockstader16
@christopherdockstader16 Жыл бұрын
How about Creatine HCL vs Creatine Monohydrate within the context of kidney health? Any difference?
@thenderaaa9252
@thenderaaa9252 7 ай бұрын
I have a very simple reason for HCL..... if taken in pill form you need six to seven monohydrate tabs vs. 1 or 2 HCL tabs. Of course this assumes that the HCL is absorbed better and you need less MG. At any rate, pills are convenient but not if I need to take 6 or 7 at a time.
@mikeschulze3720
@mikeschulze3720 Ай бұрын
I havent taken creatine HCL, but when i took creatine monohydrate it made my stomach VERY upset. Even trying just 5grams a day, without a loading phase, i was hitting the toilet once an hour. Im hoping that HCL will be better on my stomach
@JoaoCensi
@JoaoCensi 3 жыл бұрын
Dude its a fitness version of Rick from walking dead. Spitting facts... subbed
@Seasicc_48
@Seasicc_48 2 жыл бұрын
I've used his products and they're the best I've ever used. Everybody is different though, try them yourself and see how you like them (:
@omarmarquez2953
@omarmarquez2953 3 ай бұрын
I been on HCL creatine for over 6 months. Now i want to switch over to monohydrate. When i switch do i still need a loading phase
@westup6227
@westup6227 2 жыл бұрын
I experienced bloating without loading Creatine Monohydrate but wit HCL was good no need to load after about 2 to 3 was I seen a nice difference in size monohydrate too but bloating wasn't good.... So ima go With HCL
@ladyinred9656
@ladyinred9656 2 жыл бұрын
Smart choice
@coldsteel9420
@coldsteel9420 8 ай бұрын
I agree with Athlean-X. If creatine HCL is more soluble in water that means that a higher percentage of creatine monohydrate won't dissolve in the stomach and would just pass through, probably giving the user diarrhea. For example, if only 1/7 of the the creatine monohydrate vs creatine HCL dissolves in the stomach, then only 1/7 would ever get to the muscles to saturate them. Despite being cheaper per gram, most of it gets wasted.
@Cccc-ky4vq
@Cccc-ky4vq 3 жыл бұрын
How about the claim that creatine HCl does not raise DHT as monohydrate those for men concerned about hair loss
@anddudewaslike
@anddudewaslike 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know this as well. I have a feeling it’s no different since no ones talked about it yet though.
@lancer717
@lancer717 3 жыл бұрын
Where did you hear this claim? 😍 That would be awesome
@wolven777
@wolven777 Жыл бұрын
creatine is creatine, the effects are probably the same and after having read thousands of comments, I've never read a comment about hair loss stopping with hcl.
@larsmurdochkalsta8808
@larsmurdochkalsta8808 2 жыл бұрын
I never considered the fact that creatine HCL is just getting dumped into more HCL lol Also the sedimentation of creatine predominantly happens in cold water below about 50°f where is the human body it's going into is 98°f. And even at 50° If you shake it enough, you'll get it mixed and eventually and it won't come out of solution. Also gets into solution better if you mix it with warm water of idk, ~105°f. One personal anecdote with my experience on creatine. I take 5g of micronized monohydrate everyday. I once ran out and had to order more I ordered regular granular monohydrate. After using my scale to confirm that my old scoop also yielded 5g of the new product. I mixed it in with 12oz of juice from the dining hall as usual. Drank it while fucking around waiting for the boys. By the time the boys were prepared for shenanigans I was in moderately excruciating gastrointestinal distress. Thought nothing of it, that's just life. This then continued to happen for the next 5 days. At which point I said fuck it and either threw away or gave it to a friend who could tolerate it. Anecdotally, I now only take micronized monohydrate 5g everyday I have never experienced a negative side effect.
@steveceleste3580
@steveceleste3580 Жыл бұрын
What can we do to show “loss of intramuscular creatine stores?” Blood tests?
@MrGraveSlice
@MrGraveSlice Жыл бұрын
Been using HCL for over a year straight, no issues. I buy them from the vitamin shop only when they’re BOGO, so you can work around the costs if you know how to shop
@rgupta6052
@rgupta6052 Жыл бұрын
Does hcl causes hairfall?
@Dog4life
@Dog4life Жыл бұрын
I can agree you need to take an objective stand on the matter . But a lot of personal reports of actual users tolerate much better creatine HCL , me included. Normal creatine : GI distress , bloating , i pee like crazy . Creatine hcl : no bloating, no gi distress at all , normal urine . So i would get all day HCL even if it costs more.
@derrickostiguy814
@derrickostiguy814 3 жыл бұрын
Hcl works for me , strength gains is same as mono (micronized). No bloat or water puff. Creatinine, cpk, egrf ( kidney values) stay normal on hcl and not on mono. I'm 52 yo. When I was young mono was great. Now I'm older mono causes gastric distress. Moral of story, hcl if gastro probs , kidney distress and want summer time lean hard look. Mono if like winter time bulky fullness but softer look.
@CertifiedFresh7
@CertifiedFresh7 3 жыл бұрын
How much do you take each day? I can’t find a good answer anywhere online but everyone says it’s less than monohydrate
@earlcoles5215
@earlcoles5215 3 жыл бұрын
what is the most effective creatine HCL dosage? I've been reading that people take in 2 grams , correct me if im wrong but it just seems under dosed, what is your opinion on this , if I pay for an expensive creatine, I want to get the most effect out of it without any regrets.
@CertifiedFresh7
@CertifiedFresh7 3 жыл бұрын
@@earlcoles5215 I bought HCL without looking too far into it and ended up just saying fuck it and taking 5g a day
@earlcoles5215
@earlcoles5215 3 жыл бұрын
@@CertifiedFresh7 I was planning on taking 5 grams a day as well.......what brand do you use? ...because I've calculated that even if I just take 4 grams of $30 con-cret, that will be extremely expensive....like 6 bottles for 2 months 😬😬.....which one do you recommend?
@CertifiedFresh7
@CertifiedFresh7 3 жыл бұрын
@@earlcoles5215 I recommend you just go with monohydrate because it has allot more research behind it and you actually know how much to take (5g a day, 10g on training days). The point of HCL is that you don’t have to take as much because it absorbs more easily but this has not been proven with actual research or studies and the dosage is unclear which is why I just took 5g anyway. There’s just too much uncertainty around HCL to chose it over monohydrate which is the most researched supplement that exists and has been proven to be effective at 5g a day.
@aleksgifford3925
@aleksgifford3925 5 ай бұрын
Creatine monohydrate is better for people who don't have gi issues. If you have gi issues Creatine hydrochloride is better for us who do. Additionally hci costs the same because the cost per serving is what matters not the canister cost. That being said it helps me and that is my core concern.
@Swarm90t10
@Swarm90t10 3 жыл бұрын
New fav channel
@Fjerid
@Fjerid 3 жыл бұрын
So what if you get stomach pains from using regular creatine? Nevermind the cost of HCL, does it actually work the same way regular creatine does?
@kamren5824
@kamren5824 3 жыл бұрын
i think it does work the same
@eunshilpark
@eunshilpark 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, that tumbleweed in the background...priceless!!!
@sisoski
@sisoski 7 ай бұрын
is not it the best if you mix creatine monohydrate and creatine hcl?
@MichaelAmen316
@MichaelAmen316 Жыл бұрын
What about Cregaatine?
@stephenpliler5983
@stephenpliler5983 Жыл бұрын
Got creatine hcl capsules only because it was available before I had to leave for travel for work with limited space in my bag.
@MrSillypoptart
@MrSillypoptart 3 жыл бұрын
So what is better? I just got HCI and never used Creatine before but I have crohn's disease, so a little scared of Creatine giving me stomach problems. I only just started HCI today but have not felt any stomach problems. But is the strength the same of mono and HCI?
@iniguezleo707
@iniguezleo707 3 жыл бұрын
i have crohns too and started taking it three days ago. how is it for you?
@bonitabateson7744
@bonitabateson7744 Жыл бұрын
On the video on here Natural Verses Synthetic Vitamins; they say that Hydrochloric acid is know to to cause severe damage to the mouth, throat, esophagus, and stomach. I was looking for a L-Lysine supplement that did not have hydrochloric acid in it and finally found L-Lysine monohydrate; but I have not been able to find out anything on L-Lysine monohydrate. Do you know what it is made from? If it is toxic? Etc. I prefer not to put Hyrochloric acid in my body and almost all of the L-Lysine products are made with Hydrochloric acid.
@mark689
@mark689 2 жыл бұрын
I always use creatine monohydrate in my pre workout. Along with Citrulline mixed with Amino Cuts pre-workout powder.
@gymstar7124
@gymstar7124 4 ай бұрын
Does creatine hcl make you less bloated
@TheThegreatcornholio
@TheThegreatcornholio 2 жыл бұрын
Hcl works with me..... U have to remember every body is different... But I don't add that extra waterweight.....stop being biased... Creatine is creatine... It's just made to obsorb differently than the monohydrate....
@justineandserena
@justineandserena 3 жыл бұрын
I have creatine hcl it’s 750 mg it says 1 cap daily per 100 lbs you weigh 2 caps if your 200 lbs.. if I’m 150 lbs an want to try 2 caps should be ok?
@swoopes7777
@swoopes7777 3 жыл бұрын
Go for it. You will be fine 🙂
@kevinjones2826
@kevinjones2826 Жыл бұрын
What about Kre-ALKALINE? Can you do a comparison of between HCL and KRE-ALKALINE? Thanks
@davidanderson586
@davidanderson586 Жыл бұрын
So is HCL as good as Monohydrate if you're not accounting for cost?
@49ers_red_and_gold2
@49ers_red_and_gold2 Жыл бұрын
When I did use monohydrate, a doctor would tell me my kidneys are failing. So I which too HCI.
@justinhyde3456
@justinhyde3456 3 жыл бұрын
Monohydrate makes me feel sick even at 5mg dosages,thats why I take creatine HCL.
@earlcoles5215
@earlcoles5215 3 жыл бұрын
what is the most effective creatine HCL dosage? I've been reading that people take in 2 grams , correct me if im wrong but it just seems under dosed, what is your opinion on this , if I pay for an expensive creatine, I want to get the most effect out of it without any regrets.
@jamesechevarria4813
@jamesechevarria4813 3 жыл бұрын
@@earlcoles5215 I also reviewed n supposedly 2grams because it's absorbed better
@jorgewuzhear
@jorgewuzhear 3 жыл бұрын
That Jack scene almost made my protein shake come out my nose.. subbed lol
@slikjmuzik
@slikjmuzik Жыл бұрын
What about creatine in conjunction with HMB? Any benefit? I had been taking chewables of monohydrate that stated the serving was 4 chewables per day. It goes for $30 and it lasts a month of you're taking the recommended 4 tablets. I definitely benefited from it, but I peaked and no amount of food or quality protein helped me past that hump. I started taking pills that were Creatine HCl with HMB and I recently added 10lbs to my max bench after about 2 weeks of taking it. These aren't chewables, but just pills. The serving is 3 pills and the bottle comes with 180 pills, so I get 2mo out of it for the same price. Actually roughly a few cents cheaper at $29.95. I get both from Amazon. So am I crazy or lucky? Do I have some sort of co gnitive bias going on?
@Siticmon
@Siticmon 3 жыл бұрын
Monohydrate gives me real GI issues even in small doses. I'm gonna really try taking a different form and hope it does the same job or is not even harmful.
@AshtonLockk
@AshtonLockk 2 жыл бұрын
Prob a diet issue
@Siticmon
@Siticmon 2 жыл бұрын
@@AshtonLockk no not a diet issue, a creatine monohydrate issue, lots of people have those
@whitepride1453
@whitepride1453 2 жыл бұрын
KRE ALKALYN AND NO PROBLEM.
@angiefan2481
@angiefan2481 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, is there a type of creatine safe for ppl with compromised kidneys?
@rhbrand1
@rhbrand1 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still stuck on the small vs large water molecules. If I can't sleep tonight its cause I'm stuck thinking about the amount of stupid in that comment
@eruwinfrostwind9782
@eruwinfrostwind9782 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I really appreciate the info you present and your youtube content. At ca. 3:45 min you stated that the HCl concentration in the human stomach is about 6 mol/l, which I would consider as a very high concentration (even if it is still diluted HCL) and quite aggressive to the tissue. As far as I know the concentration should be somewhat around 0.1 mol/l (still pH=1). But as a disclaimer, I didn´t look deeper into it than a quick peek at Wikipedia to reinforce my belief. Is the concentration you mentionend related to the production of the HCl? Youst curious :)
@Samson484
@Samson484 3 жыл бұрын
How long it takes to take effect was never addressed. Does it actually start working quicker than monohydrate or not?
@KK001
@KK001 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently faster than monohydrate since its more bioavailable and water salable.
@Nealskis
@Nealskis 3 жыл бұрын
Dropping facts bro 🤘🏻🤘🏻
@jeffklaubo3168
@jeffklaubo3168 3 жыл бұрын
Well creatine hcl doesn't NEED a loading phase like monohydrate does. It's concentrated so it can be taken in much smaller doses which is easier for your body to absorb before it turns to creatinine and is removed from your body by your kidneys. You must load the monohydrate in large doses and regularly because monohydrate only has a half life of 30 minutes once mixed with water before it degrades into creatinine and you end up peeing out 3/4 of what you take in. That's the only real difference. I like the hcl because I take a capsule in the morning and one at night. And it's that simple. Can't do that with a 5 gram scoop lol.
@GurlsiLike
@GurlsiLike 3 жыл бұрын
My hcl is 750 mg a scoop..how many scoops should i take as a beginner on creatine
@Barachiel_Light
@Barachiel_Light 2 жыл бұрын
@@GurlsiLike I believe that 2g of HCI is equal to 5g of Monohydrate
@jeffklaubo3168
@jeffklaubo3168 2 жыл бұрын
@thespiritbomb no... this guy was bro sciencing my man... like literally. Actual science and biology backs up my statements. He discredited nothing.
@JS67137
@JS67137 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffklaubo3168 You can take monohydrate tablets too🤷‍♂️
@jeffklaubo3168
@jeffklaubo3168 2 жыл бұрын
@Son yeah... 5 of them lmao. Compared to 1.
@RBNK157
@RBNK157 11 ай бұрын
what is the dosage of HCL you need a day ?
@vperkv6554
@vperkv6554 10 ай бұрын
750 MG per 100lb. I should be taking 2 a day but im just sticking with 1 pill a day. Im taking more so for recovery and imo, its night and day. Im way less sore, you do get a slight boost also.
@dkdustin9326
@dkdustin9326 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate that he shows his audience he uses cre mono in his supps for bias and that he acknowledges that it’s cheaper. The fact mono is cheaper is the sole reason for this debate still going around. I’m fully with him on buffered creatines being complete bs. But there is a study showing it takes less creatine with the hcl version to reach saturation. (He acknowledges this) Many people also report less stomach issues.. I’ve been told by IFBBs and myself anecdotally notice a more dryer look when using hcl. Hcl, albeit more expensive, is the superior creatine. Top shelf products should be using hcl. Mono is Walmart brand creatine at this point and used in products to increase profit margin.. And there’s nothing wrong with that if that gets the job done for you, not hating one bit, but this is the truth.. Cost is also why all the studies are done with mono btw.
@John_on_the_mountain
@John_on_the_mountain 2 жыл бұрын
I just started taking HCl because it was literally the only creatine left at Rite Aid when i went to re-up my normal Six Star creatine supply. So we will see how it goes
@winter8519
@winter8519 2 жыл бұрын
So?
@unknownsource4359
@unknownsource4359 2 жыл бұрын
Tap in with an update my boy
@yashthakare2059
@yashthakare2059 2 жыл бұрын
Any update?
@John_on_the_mountain
@John_on_the_mountain 2 жыл бұрын
@@yashthakare2059 not worth the extra price. I went back to monohydrate and no difference.
@yashthakare2059
@yashthakare2059 2 жыл бұрын
@@John_on_the_mountain okay great. Am also buying my Monohydrate supplies again. 5gm work for me
@dez6278
@dez6278 3 ай бұрын
Monohydrate makes me really nauseous, even just 2g. I got the HCL and take 1 pill and I'm fine.
@MichaelThomasDev
@MichaelThomasDev 3 жыл бұрын
Searched “Layne Norton hair loss” would love to know your thoughts on it...
@thepurplebox380
@thepurplebox380 3 жыл бұрын
As Jewish body builders would say as they take their creatine, "L'Chyme".
@bane2256
@bane2256 3 жыл бұрын
Once I switched from mono to hcl I was able to conquer Gotham
@earlcoles5215
@earlcoles5215 3 жыл бұрын
what is the most effective creatine HCL dosage? I've been reading that people take in 2 grams , correct me if im wrong but it just seems under dosed, what is your opinion on this , if I pay for an expensive creatine, I want to get the most effect out of it without any regrets.
@bharamcharya_prachandshakti
@bharamcharya_prachandshakti Жыл бұрын
@@earlcoles5215 2gram is perfect dose for HCl or u can take less avoid taking in more dosage 2g is perfect
@Born2Losenot2win
@Born2Losenot2win 2 жыл бұрын
A chad who knows biochem… what a chad
@DrAlecTramblay
@DrAlecTramblay 3 жыл бұрын
Why can’t people just fricking accept creatine mono, we got it right already! It’s cheap and works!
@loonatic42
@loonatic42 3 жыл бұрын
No it doesn’t, it creates stomach issues for some unlike HCL
@DrAlecTramblay
@DrAlecTramblay 3 жыл бұрын
loonatic42 “it doesn’t work” because a tiny percentage of people get stomach discomfort from it 🤦🏼‍♂️ please stfu
@bennywatts4174
@bennywatts4174 3 жыл бұрын
Greed
@loonatic42
@loonatic42 3 жыл бұрын
@@DrAlecTramblay ok then 😅 I’ll try another round of creatine mono next week and see if I still have those issues.
@DrAlecTramblay
@DrAlecTramblay 3 жыл бұрын
loonatic42 all I am saying is if it messes with you and HCl doesn’t then stick with what works but you can’t blanket statement creatine mono as ineffective for everyone because you personally have issues with it
@daviddonaire9392
@daviddonaire9392 2 жыл бұрын
Can you mix both? I take 5g every day, but my new pre workout has 1.5g of HCL
@Yyyeffrey
@Yyyeffrey 2 жыл бұрын
There’s studies that show that mixing mono and hcl helps with absorption
@Maverick31C
@Maverick31C 3 жыл бұрын
Like them biceps, information on point !
@DelSigy
@DelSigy 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos or research on kidney stones and creative? Between one kind or another?
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