CREATING STORAGE SPACE IN LOFT

[@carolinewitts2497]

Love watching you work, Man of many talents! Great job again 🥰

[@PompeyMatt17]

he's great on Celebrity Juice ! 👌

[@rogershepherd9995]

i realize I'm quite randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to watch new movies online?

[@fredericktrenton2226]

@Roger Shepherd Try flixzone. You can find it by googling :)

[@wellscarter6246]

@Roger Shepherd try Flixzone. Just search on google for it :)

[@ignaciomitchell7176]

@Roger Shepherd lately I have been using flixzone. You can find it on google :)

[@jeremyallen5056]

I never thought I could look forward to watching building work and yet here I am watching you and your team.Brilliant to see a job done properly,thoughtfully and tidily

[@TrumpForKing]

I get tired just watching you work. You guys do amazing work and the videos are terrific. Real professionals. Thanks for posting.

[@builditwithrob]

Thank you appreciate it

[@danielmoore462]

Cant afford a loft conversion, but love watching the videos. Very relaxing and you seem like a top man!

[@d2mey]

We’re Bournemouth based and literally started watching your videos 2 days ago .. Shame we didnt contact you before this job as you could of come around and quoted for us !! Great job again

[@vladm9384]

There are many ways to support the roof structure so that those beams on the floor would be out of the way. All that great work with the eye sores left like that.

[@GMLondon]

Maybe the customer didn't have the additional work in their budget eh genius?

[@vladm9384]

@@GMLondon How would you know? Using you foolish what if scerario to validate the beams left out. Do you feel all big with your youtube justice warrior comment? Where you there when they made the agreement?

[@GMLondon]

@@vladm9384 It's common sense mate. And it's Sir Justice Warrior to you!

[@alexakasloth]

These sort of jobs are for storage spaces in lofts, whilst it would look neater it would add significant cost to remove purlin supports and add in steel/ glulams. Not to mention then its more involvement and cost with building control. When all the customer would have wanted is an insulated storage space.

[@jamiee8387]

I don’t even have a house yet and I still watch the videos. Just find them fun to watch mate. Well done and you do a very professional job. Would love mine done for storage if I ever get a house! 🤣

[@builditwithrob]

Thanks Jamie appreciate it

[@jimgeelan5949]

Another very nice loft storage space with lots of lighting so you can see very clearly were you are putting things 🤫😝😝

[@staffysmile3325]

You made fitting those windows look so easy 😂 cut the timber pull out the tiles and pop the window in…might try it next week 🤯

[@andymitchell362]

braver than me cutting those joists relying on just the blade depth to miss the cables, i would of had to of unclip them, another great video

[@simonbergman5970]

Instuctions unclear. Cut all the beams in my loft, now my roof is laying flat on the second floor😉

[@ericthekingthekingtheking4842]

Cant you get shut of them diagonal braces Rob an the ones you clean up would make it look mint

[@brendanfisher2528]

my thoughts exactly. any way pf removing them?

[@smck732]

Bit obsessed with your videos haha

[@petercleary1000]

I wish I had a loft that needed doing. You guys go the extra 10 miles on the work you do.👍

[@builditwithrob]

Thank you

[@reecesmall6187]

Quality stuff mate, getting more and more tempted to do this myself, fancy doing a detailed how to on a standard 3 bed semi conversion 😂 👍🏻

[@KevsShed]

You need to get Damo a new pair of trousers! He's split the arse on those ones! 😂

[@builditwithrob]

I know lol

[@lexpoppens8223]

Watching in Illinois, U.S. Love your videos!

[@builditwithrob]

Thank you

[@markcortis2348]

Beautiful loft space,well done chaps,👍👍

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

Nice to see an electrician have all the screw slots on the sockets all go the same way! Made a big difference but do none of these people have any water tanks in their loft space?

[@PompeyMatt17]

they all must have Combi's 🤷‍♂️

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

@@PompeyMatt17 Ah yeah, never thought of that because we dont have one!

[@steenfraosterbro3268]

Love your videos. I know you are young, strong and fast as lightning, but come 10 years wearing no masks your lungs are going to be destroyed.

[@rogernewnham4309]

Can i just say after 45 years in construction, get knee pads on.

[@rossMIE]

I was look to see if they had need pads too, I think Damo did on one day. Water on the knee is not fun, apparently 👍👌

[@j0rzeh]

I was thinking that also... my knees are fucked I can barely walk and I'm only 38..

[@ludovicrobert1813]

Hi Rob, great work and very inspiring indeed! May I ask, just so I can get my head around it; how much is a job like that costing please?

[@davidstievenard6313]

nice job the result is very clean ! I almost done a similar renovation project in my small house back home and back in the days I made plans to use that space in the bottom "corner" of the roof : custom made drawers using 'Blum' very robust accessories to do it. Never had the time to do it but the idea was quite nice, there is a lot of unused space in those corners !

[@danielshepherd7183]

Gonna crack on with my own after watching your vids. You never know though. I might be calling you to rectify some high grade bodging lol 😂

[@offcuts4146]

Nice work i like the feature of the chimney breast think customer could utilise it a bit and put some shelving between part thats plastered

[@iainmacdonald5907]

Storage space!! Yea, right! :) Great job, work ethic, and video!

[@arifawan1190]

Amazing what a beautiful outcome

[@pervyplod]

Another great job boys , need you to sort my loft out in Brighton

[@builditwithrob]

I would be happy too bud

[@manxvibes32]

Great job again lads, is 25mm insulation enough between rafters?

[@builditwithrob]

It keep the chill out obviously wouldn’t meet regs for a room but for storage it’s on

[@max-rf6fm]

Fantastic job guys👍. Ill be looking at a loft conversion soon, shame I didn't come across this video when you were in Bournemouth; could have asked you for a quote. Really enjoyed the few videos I've watched.

[@Chris-vc6bn]

Guys you’ve don’t this before 😂😂😂 outstanding work it’s great to watch 👍

[@Valisk]

Another great job. If I ever get the go-ahead to sort our loft, there's a fella round the corner with a Hummer H2 that you can go and see! :)

[@builditwithrob]

Thanks bud

[@pauldiamond4142]

You guys give your trade a great reputation.

[@keithhilton1564]

Just come across your channel, you lads do good work between you.

[@builditwithrob]

Thanks keith

[@bernardgarrett3897]

Untreated timber on wet plaster. What could possibly go wrong? Timber rot I hear you say!!!!

[@leomarc634]

❤ that’s really good I need do my

[@gaiuscoleman8815]

Fabulous transformation. Questions: loft hatches are notoriously skimpy and narrow and pathetically small in modern properties. Have you ever done reconstruction work on a hatch that both widens and elongates it? What I'd want, money-no-object, would be just this, then fit in an electric ladder that opens the hatch and down comes the ladder, the motor stops and allows you to then climb easily and safely up into the loft. Then of course would come the flooring as shown here and the boarding up for the 2 pitches of the roof, fabulous lighting, even power points. Can it be done and would planning permission be required? The 2nd question is: what about having the fancy, LED RECESSED lighting in the 2 bedrooms below the loft space and also for the airing cupboard and landing. The shower room here has already been transformed, but they put in a false ceiling to accommodate the recessed lighting. Fair enough. But if I wanted the original ceiling height in 2 bedrooms RETAINED, does a special recess/box not need to be fitted in the loft, BEFORE it's all sealed off so that, any electrician can then go into the loft and then into the box/recess to deal with the lower rooms' lighting, etc? I'd be interested in your feedback.

[@allsearpw3829]

Fancy bringing wood peckers from Leeds ,there are a few in the woods down here ,or was it your crew in digs ? . Nice work lads . A GREAT TEAM .

[@chrismiles-witchell9374]

I`m a floorlayer & did a job for an Architect, who said instead of payment, he would sort plans for a loft conversion. He said `cross-bracing` isn`t adequate support across the joists to take that extra weight..........Have i been had........?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Chris It’s not adequate for a habitable room, this job was only storage

[@krupboom]

Amazing work ethic. Love it. Great job.

[@emmadaley3043]

Great video, thank you 👍🏻 my loft is exactly the same and we've considered doing exactly this since we had our water tank removed. But we also have no felt under our roof tiles. Is this still okay to put Kingspan again? I was worried about a condensation problem? Also, could you possibly do a more detailed video do you think? We'd be very grateful and interested to see it 😊

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Emma if the job is habitable room we would put breathable membrane on roof with dry ridge and soffit vents for ventilation. If it’s just storage soffit vents and tile vents are fine for roof to breathe. I’ve had a few requests for a more detailed video so it will happen soon

[@dancemusic70]

Excellent work 👏 👍 👌

[@petergambling671]

Love it mate nice professional jobs top blokes 👍❤

[@neilanderson8572]

Looks great. Could you do that but with a staircase? Still classed as storage so no steels

[@builditwithrob]

If you put a staircase in it becomes an illegal room

[@andrekidd6871]

I'm just doing the exact job ,just on a tea break . I noticed you have used ,I think 5x2 across joist ,I dont believe these are high enough as I'm using 7x2 and the total height of insulation from ceiling is 270mm which li believe is minimum requirement I'm only boarding a small area for storage the rest of insulation is 400 mm toastie !

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Andre 5x2 is fine just for a bit of storage don’t put too much insulation in floor it starts to sweat and causes damp patches

[@Radictor44]

I love how your northern accent comes across in the video title :D

[@craig9293]

Another great video, love watching them transform. Rob, can you do timber framed houses? And if they are new builds does it effect the 10 year building guarantee?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Craig thanks for watching bud. We can do timber framed houses we have done some in the past, if it’s a new build it would effect your guarantee you would need to speak with house builder

[@craig9293]

Thanks for the reply 👍🏻 I’ll check with the building company. A great way to add some storage.

[@curtissaidso5048]

Could you do a step by step video on how to fit a sky light window please

[@builditwithrob]

Hello bud, velux window have a multitude of videos on line Thanks bud

[@simonnorth2302]

Excellent job

[@user-zd9dt7fg3f]

Any reason you didn't opt to use loft flooring legs?

[@Cryptocoinselite]

Would love a loft install recently tided mines out from previous owner the big thick bit of wood you were cutting into then hammering off about a inch is that important to run your yen’s joists off that then floor on top

[@builditwithrob]

Hello David The timber I was cutting down is to prevent bounce across joists, as we added more joists to strengthen up its ok

[@Cryptocoinselite]

Would that be my height I need to build up to my loft has so much space how much is a loft conversion I allready have velux window installed

[@TheSparkysdog]

Just found your channel, great videos, quality job 👏

[@builditwithrob]

Thank you mark hope you consider subscribing 👍

[@quantuminfinity601]

Cracking job lads

[@atheistyler]

Rob what size timbers for the floor joists please? Great videos keep it up 👍

[@builditwithrob]

Hi bud 5x2 timbers

[@tomkelly6101]

Hi. Great video's. Where do you source the pre-built frame and doors for the eaves cupboards? Regards Tom

[@builditwithrob]

Hi Tom we build them in house

[@cmal90]

Another one in the bag rob 👍🏻 what are people generally using these spaces as Rob as I notice most are unheated ?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello mate. Most of these small jobs are just storage spaces

[@padman99999]

With all those sockets?

[@saxonshrimpton1925]

Hello Rob, I’m interested in a loft. Can I ask if it’s possible to have a proper staircase fitted with the Eco T.R.U.S system? I’ve not seen a proper staircase in the videos.

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Saxon yes we install staircases into jobs usually the customer wants to finish the small works

[@shaunaclarke2305]

​@@builditwithrob Hi, how much does it costs just for the steal frame to be added for extra support and the wooden beams that you remove. Boarding, windows, electrical, plasterboarding side can all be completed by someone I know. It's just the floor and structure side that needs doing. Your videos are amazing.

[@azhmehmood]

Great work

[@markpreston6345]

Hey Rob...see you put the kingspan in with no felt. Is there a special one for this? Out house is old with no felt and can’t figure out if it’s ok to do like you have here or if we would need to line it first?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Mark if the roof has ventilation installing insulation this way is not a problem

[@diykhan]

Sweet job Well done 👏 ✔ 👍

[@mfasiu]

I wonder how much this will cost with an extension. Thanks

[@neilbrown6991]

Great job, do you also install new roof ventilation as the roof is being changed from a cold roof to a warm roof?

[@builditwithrob]

We do yes

[@davidanderson1467]

Top job lads... what holds the kingspan in place? Is there a gap between kingspan and tiles?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello David the kingspan is cut tight and wedged in place, we leave a 50mm air flow gap behind

[@wolveslad-cm6ek]

Simply lovleh 👌love the videos

[@samwhite3094]

Are those ceiling joists made to take weight as you dont seem to have strengthened them , you've just laid joists on top of them going the opposite direction to gain space for the insulation. I didnt think 4x2 ceiling joists were strong enough for floors?

[@CrashUK28]

Have a go at floor and mayby the loft hatch.

[@v2dheart164]

well done rob

[@builditwithrob]

Thank you

[@webb2717]

Have you heard of dust extraction

[@villasomalia1756]

You are making alot hits nice

[@gavinrackett3707]

Great video. Just curious but before you up plasterboard didn't you need to put a vapour barrier up. Thinking about doing mine and all you here about is vapour barrier! Cheers, Gav

[@supermankelly]

So I assume removing this supports wasn't possible without extensive structural changes and cost, which wasn't worth it for the customer who just wanted storage space?

[@builditwithrob]

That’s correct yes

[@segunjohnson4184]

Nice job Rob. I'm about to do mine. Was there a reason you did the cupboard framework before the Kingspan? Doesn't it make the Kingspan installation more difficult through the framing?

[@chrisroberts4047]

Hi Rob, what was full cost of the job in this vid? it looks exactly same as our loft space. Cheers in advance.

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Chris Please see our website. There is a cost calculator on there if you input the loft measurements it will give you a price Thank you ecotrus.com/

[@shafiqmustafa2777]

They won’t give you a price, there website a a bit misleading.

[@leestar7156]

Nice job, would you ever not use cross supports? I moved into a house with mini loft conversion (storage) skimmed and carpet. Looking at the depth of loft hatch there’s 4inch timbers & 18mm board, partition wall in middle because of chimney, low ceiling. Think mine is strong enough for kids to play ect ?

[@Fester_]

My thoughts exactly. Thing is though, if it's just for storage, no planning needed. Job is done to a price.

[@Grimbo798]

Is it ok to add the rigid insulation if there isn't any roof felting under the tiles?

[@builditwithrob]

It depends if the roof has ventilation and can breathe

[@RMEonline]

does the old loft insulation not contain asbestos ??

[@jamboshangotherandymolesmo5913]

Awesome work. Is there a minimum height in loft before this work can happen ?

[@Hello8qwe]

Is this possible to be done on any house? I don't have a loft per say, but is it a case of cutting a hole in my top ceiling and then doing the job? Or can this only be done on houses that already have lofts thats are accessible? Just wanted to confirm before contacting you.

[@builditwithrob]

Hello friend most homes have a loft space if you have no hatch we would have to cut an opening before quoting

[@abdolkarim2112]

Anyway of getting rid of those supports?

[@builditwithrob]

Yes steels can be inserted and structural walls can be installed

[@shrory]

Question, why do you plaster all over the drywall not just the joints? We just tape our joints and mud them and mudin reinforced corners. Great watching you work,

[@stevena9305]

It’s a traditional uk method which provides a plaster finish to timber studwork or rafters, called ‘plasterboard and skim’. It’s certainly possible, as an alternative, to use tapered edge boards and fill the joists without needing a plaster skim coat - a personal choice.

[@Garyck88]

Is plastering the back side of the plasterboard any good? Thought it was only the Ivory side?!

[@CarFinanceSimplified]

Another great video 👍

[@thegriffster95]

Did the roof need any kind of lining before the insulation went in? Looks like it was just torching between the tiles - we've got something similar!

[@mmaadd09]

Yes, they should install the waterproof membrane, they also created thermal bridge installing plasterboards directly to roof rafters. Maybe it is nice to watch, but a low-quality job.

[@Jaaammmbbbooo]

@@mmaadd09 Should they have battened the rafters out over the top of the insulation then plasterboarded?

[@mmaadd09]

​@@Jaaammmbbbooo No, they should add another layer of the inslutation on the top of rafters , like here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eneyXpSpot6lhpo

[@johnporter8896]

Im doing flooring in my loft and wanted to ask about the angled braces to the floor. Is there any way to remove them safely and replace them with verical ones for less of a trip hazard?

[@builditwithrob]

There is but it involves steels supporting walls and structural calcs

[@scottmcdonald5896]

Rob great vids can you use the ecotrus to make a liveable space not just storage ?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Scot yes of course I’ve just done a dormer conversion in this metal system, my last video

[@scottmcdonald5896]

@@builditwithrob brill I go have a butchers at that. What would something like that be ball park figure

[@stuartsmith7618]

Interesting videos I’m going to have to get you guys to give me a quote at some point next year

[@builditwithrob]

We would be happy too

[@crozzy04]

What are they planning to do with the brick work? Great video mate

[@builditwithrob]

Customer wanted to clean it up and varnish it

[@crozzy04]

Ah that will look great. Thanks for reply 👍🏼😀

[@crozzy04]

Build it with Rob also your channel seems to be really hitting KZbin algorithm, you just popped up on my feed. Good luck 🤞

[@allsearpw3829]

NICE VIDEO , you could have popped in and given me a price .

[@imhak]

Does joist carry the extra weight?

[@trophies1968]

Why do you leave those joist sticking out. Is there not away to remove and still support the roof?

[@ribs99]

Yes, but that would require steel I beams to support the roof. Then it starts getting really expensive and building control need to be involved too.

[@builditwithrob]

Hello mark as Ribs said yes you can remove but involves steel and building control,

[@robertquinn7412]

Quick question for you Rob. If you are laying 200mm of top up insulation, what thickness beams are you putting down to allow flooring to be laid without impacting the insulation? Cheers!

[@builditwithrob]

100mm between original floor cords then 100mm between new floor timbers

[@robertquinn7412]

@@builditwithrob Ah, so 200mm total insulation not 300mm? New building regs in Ireland ask for 300mm and I was thinking of putting down either 9x2 or 7x2 beams on top of the original beams then using 200mm insulation. My worry is 7 inches is a little shy of the 200mm insulation roll and then is 9x2 going to be steady enough when flooring goes on top! 🤷‍♂️

[@builditwithrob]

@@robertquinn7412 please be aware this hob is storage space and not a habitable room

[@robertquinn7412]

@@builditwithrob hi, absolutely, apologies for the confusion. I mean osb board flooring that will be walked on for accessing stored items.

[@kevm4670]

Great job. How long does a job that take please ?

[@builditwithrob]

Hi Kev 5 days to complete bud

[@anothertensionhead]

Got a quick question about the bearers you cut here. I have the same issue in my loft, but I'm not comfortable with cutting them like you have (I'd probably take my bloody hand off!) If I attach some 2x2s to the top of the existing joists with Gorilla Glue and screws (to add extra height), then cross brace with 5x2 like you have here, is that something that will add strength? Having the 2x2s on top will mean I can board over the top of the bearers without cutting them (we have a lot of head height so not bothered about losing a bit). We also have a supporting wall below so the spans are quite short. Any advice is appreciated, cheers!

[@builditwithrob]

Hello friend, As long as you are using the space for storage your method should be fine. It will not be strong enough for habitable

[@anothertensionhead]

@@builditwithrob cheers Rob, thanks for the advice. Your videos are great!

[@anothertensionhead]

@@builditwithrob sorry Rob got another question! Our main aim for our loft is a storage with a secondary use of a cinema room with a wall mounted projector and some bean bags. Would this sort of floor be alright for occasional use for the above with two people sitting up there (so not a party room)? Thanks again!

[@sunflower7766]

I got a company in to add a loft hatch with pull down stairs so I could use the loft as storage. They didn't sheet up correctly and destroyed brand new carpets (we bought a done up house from a builder). Looking how much you sheeted up in the landing and stairs just goes to show me what they should have done. We refused to pay them until they sorted the carpets as they were covered in black dust and stained. They refused so we never paid them. The carpets had to stay destroyed until we recently changed them.

[@builditwithrob]

Hello sunflower it’s standard practice for us to sheet walls and floors nobody wants black hand prints all over walls

[@sunflower7766]

@@builditwithrob I guess it's just not standard practice with all companies. Thanks for responding

[@corsa2010sport]

Is there an option to just have the steel lengths across and floor boarding done pal?

[@builditwithrob]

Hello mate yes this can be done if you contact our office mention I sent you they will help in any way possible

[@lloydunett206]

Seems extreme for storage, cant be used as a room as would not meet building regs.

[@coops6621]

Who puts sockets in attic `storage'. People illegally use them as habitable rooms as its a fraction of a proper conversion with the small annoyance of using a ladder. Just have to hope you never have a fire.

[@zainshah1975]

Excuse my ignorance but what’s a fire got to do with it?

[@coops6621]

@@zainshah1975 because someone may use one of these ‘storage’ rooms as an actual bedroom and they don’t comply with fire regs that are applicable for habitable rooms at this level

[@davidelliott5843]

Working in a mask is miserable but an air mover to shift the dust and fluff outside would ave it clear in no time so you'd not need the make for long.

[@sahiluddin9717]

Hi i have a loft and a doormat and my builders lowered my second floor ceilings i dont seem to see you do that

[@MrGreen_]

Quick question rob ,i have factory fitted trusses ,prestressed,is it possible to do an attic conversion.

[@builditwithrob]

Hello friend. Yes it’s possible we can remove using our steel system

[@MrGreen_]

@@builditwithrob legend rob cheers for reply ,your work is top class youd be the ideal man to do l my conversion but am living southren ireland rob😟but i love the vlogs rob Thanks again for reply 👍

[@builditwithrob]

@@MrGreen_ your welcome bud. More to come

[@vxrbandit2527]

Looking for loft conversion on a 4-bed property in Torquay Devon, don`t for one moment you guys are interested by any chance? I do think since you put your professional work on YT that I would have to wait at least a two weeks for a quote and a two / three-month B4 start date? If you are interested, please respond. Great channel btw Steve

[@builditwithrob]

Hello Steve we travel nation wide we would love to convert your loft please contact office mention my name they will help you out

[@vxrbandit2527]

@@builditwithrob Will do mate 👌👌