Creative Vado / Flip Video Ultra Comparison

[@jawmuncher]

Ashens is the only person I know who can make me come back to a review of now obsolete hardware and still completely enjoy it.

[@jakesnodgrass4924]

jawmuncher They weren't obsolete in 2008.

[@xeokym223]

Jacob Snodgrass Yeah thanks for that observation, Capt. Obvious. That was not the point he was making. Notice he said "of *_now_* obsolete hardware." The important word here is "now."

[@jakesnodgrass4924]

***** Well memed b0ss

[@Frankfurtdabezzzt]

Absolutely. Crazy that this video is now 12 years old.

[@sumoslap1973]

Just bought one of these for $16 love these things it’s like a vhs camera, a relic of the past. Sad to say that about something from 2008. 2021 sucks

[@vaibhavjoshi7756]

Who is watching it in August, 2021?? Time flies very fast :( I miss the old times 😢

[@ihatetheantichrist193]

"flip the flip on the flip,hear a blip" - ashens 2008

[@Ryusuta]

"Hold the power button, release, hear annoying chimes." ...Not quite as catchy. ^^;

[@hmApollo101]

It's 2023 and I can finally watch this ironically interested in ancient tech

[@lbrown21494]

Wow, "Good enough for youtube" has really changed meanings now adays.

[@LambOfLucifer]

Love how your earlier videos sound like you are genuinely being professional and trying to honestly review items. Zoom to present day and you basically review things like you already know they are shit and you totally rip the piss out of them.

[@dr.cringe5045]

LambOfLucifer I Mostly agree with you on that

[@DavidMcGuireRaceVids]

Even though this review is old, I still look back to it as the perfect example of a good comparison/review. It put the cameras through their paces rather than just going "look at this pretty video on a nice sunny day!" and it focuses on the audio as well, which most reviews seem to ignore completely. It also showed me when I was shopping for a low budget camera to look at different footage in different lighting conditions and other situations than just some jamoke shooting flowers in the sun.

[@atm959]

I noticed that the audio on the Flip camera is mono, where the sound of the Vado was stereo when played back.

[@GooogleGirl]

love the intro when he says "hello" and his eyes go all wonky!!!!!!! Great video as usual!!!!!

[@edwardbrydalski8772]

14 years ago, Jesus Christ

[@amaruqlonewolf3350]

@@edwardbrydalski8772 Two months ago, crikey.

[@maxosborne1693]

​@@amaruqlonewolf335011 days ago, good god

[@RomanBellic]

@@amaruqlonewolf33502 months ago holy crap

[@amaruqlonewolf3350]

@@RomanBellic 11 months!

[@babblbuh]

here I am, watching a 7yr old review of camcorders at 1:20am. I have lost control over my life.

[@babblbuh]

+Allahu Alkbar ...and I'm back at the 7yr old review again in the middle of the night.

[@WaddupMatty]

What's incredibly strange is the timing is perfect. I read your comment at 1:20am almost on the dot.

[@aryoshie]

+babblbuh Don't worry, I'm doing the same thing at 3:30am.

[@DisturbedOneX]

+babblbuh Just realized it's 1:20am as I'm watching this video a well. Well shit..

[@zzoinks]

babblbuh Hey! It's 1:38 over here!

[@gandalfwiz20007]

Can you imagine these things were standard back in 2008, 12 years later we have ultra 8K cameras with 360 degrees that can record for hours ( if you have a memory card large enough)

[@gui18bif]

Damn.

[@OlEgSaS32]

hell it wasnt that far back when a 4k display cost almost as much as a high end gaming pc

[@stormgirl09]

i love going back to these told videos! i remember when these were a thing however their popularity didnt last to long.....not to mention they were a little late to the game. they came out when smartphones started to become popular...im sure these would of been a bigger hit if they came out somewhere between 2003 to 2005...

[@chevron-vw5rn]

only thing thats changed about ashens videos is the quality of them otherwise its still the same sofa and all, love it!

[@lampini]

I was going into 5th grade when this came out. I think youtube videos have officially become nostalgic for me.

[@DanaTheInsane]

When I was in 5th grade home video meant Super 8 film. :(

[@jackwilson183]

The worst part is they still use those old flip camcorders at my school...

[@gydeme]

Ahhhh 2008 problems

[@DaGleese]

Technology has come such a long way that looking at these devices, I'd have believed you if you told me they were made in 2002 (apart from the KZbin functionality).

[@spitfire184]

> 640 x 480 I'm laughing at you, 2008.

[@SageOwl]

+spitfire184 I'm sure plenty of these are littering thrift stores buried under children's toys and copies of Madden for the Xbox.

[@bionicles]

+Dr. Steve Brule They actually go around on Ebay for min. $50

[@andhieyusuf7008]

[laughs in 1080p]

[@marioa.l.2665]

That's really not such a bad resolution (same as NTSC DVDs), the problem is KZbin's compression.

[@davymachinegun5130]

@@andhieyusuf7008 Remind me to laugh at your comment in 2028.

[@rzeka]

it took me 9 years to realize the Creative that made this is the same Creative than made the sounblaster cards

[@r0ckbass]

"What a surprise!", he lied. LOL I love it. Great job as always, Dr. Ashens!

[@metaldragoon9468]

Wow you're channel is a real time capsule

[@travisalan]

lol yeah.

[@elephystry]

MetalDragoon *your

[@venichen1]

I've said it before, smartphones killed these things. Even the Flip Mino/Ultra HD were killed off by the iPhone and whatnot.

[@bionicles]

+venichen1 But you have to admit, the video quality of the Flip was way before its time.

[@sumoslap1973]

@@bionicles the flip camera in 2009 was really really good. I got the mino when i was a kid and it recorded in 720p. And it actually looks like a camcorder.

[@SMC0DT]

We have to use these bloody things in school, apparently our teachers still haven't realized that ALL phones are now built with cameras

[@spitfire184]

+SMC0DT Animations The IT technicians won't want you plugging in your dirty virus-ridden phones into the school network. You'll only use them to boot Minecraft anyway.

[@elephystry]

spitfire184 I’m pretty sure phones can’t get malware

[@MrMega200]

@@elephystry yes they can get viruses and the like.

[@no_misaki]

@@MrMega200 They can but hardly anyone does. You have to do some pretty sketchy shit to get a mobile bug

[@benrideout4771]

Crazy how at the time of commenting you can buy a working Flip for £10 on eBay

[@Toasty94]

That's one thing I love about Ashens. I can be watching a video review about a product I don't plan on getting, now or ever, and yet I still watch it intently and am thoroughly entertained. Dafuq.

[@PatWizard]

It feels so unreal to see ashens actually sitting on the famous brown sofa at 7:20. I feel like im seeing something i shouldn't

[@Drawyah]

8:40 - Fast forward 8 years and that video quality is now absolutely shocking! 😂

[@maxwellbeeman6205]

the first of the intro! love that's it's never changed (apart from a few fun bits every now and then)

[@yoshimansxl]

And now we record in 3840 x 2160. xD

[@kristina80ification]

and marketing life style garbage being shoved in our face after we have bought a product is also more common now.

[@maddiemarlow3346]

+Areozone what camera do you have?

[@VinceR3000]

Future here, you poor man

[@hoangtran4736]

7 years later... phone is thinner than a sheet of cardboard

[@hoangtran4736]

***** can't wait until someone stop this stupid trend and increase the performance and battery life

[@hoangtran4736]

by performance, i don't only mean speed, i also mean the phone's life span. software-wise, most phones are out of date in just a few years, and after 5 years, most phones are probably obsolete already. and batter-wise, why on earth would anyone want a phone that can go for a few hours top without having to recharge. and because most phone batteries nowsaday are lithium-ion battery, their ability to hold a charge degrade after about 600 cycles. if you're just use your phone for calling and messaging, you'll probably charge your phone once a day, that should get you a battery that last about 3 years (2 years before it started degrading and another 1 year after it started degrading). but i use phones for almost everything when i a, not at home, i charge my phone 4 times a day, my battery only lasts 8 months (5 months before degradation and another 3 months after) (not to mention some d**khead company that wouldn't allow you to change the battery yourself and make you buy a new phone or go to a phone repair shop). and finally, making phones thinner, though it makes the phone more fashionable, also makes the phone more fragile. many phones nowsaday, if you drop them on to the floor from your chest, they would crack the screen or even damage the internal hardware. (oh and lastly, phones are technically computers (: ).

[@hoangtran4736]

***** have you been using it a lot? how long have you got it? what do you use it for?

[@hoangtran4736]

***** for the OS. we have a word called 'update'

[@hoangtran4736]

***** i am mostly concerned about the hardware, especially the battery

[@pokenole]

coffee and ashens before work

[@Platasquid]

The specification readouts are so soothing.

[@minefilms1122]

flip no longer exists. but creative vado still exists. very clearly we have a winer

[@mrblobfish121]

Aaron *winner

[@jeremyBanks]

I've been trying to find a comparison of these two products, and this just popped up in my subscriptions feed. Fantastic!

[@maliburobert]

Possibly the best review I've ever seen. Thanks!

[@shaneneave399]

I agree!

[@emaytee]

even your "semi-serious" review is still pretty funny and pretty informative at the same time! way to go! *5 stars*

[@stukaforce]

Thank you SO much. I never thought about not buying either of them and just using a cell phone! You just saved me a lot of money!

[@Mason-wg2jw]

ive never actually seen him sit on the couch, until now and now my life is complete

[@krzbrew]

Got this recommended in 2020 after viewing a new review of these.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

Finally a honest review without 3 mins of comparing how thick/slim things are...

[@DavidMcGuireRaceVids]

Even though this video is a bit old now, I think everyone shopping for a camera needs to watch this and the Camelio H10 review, because those two videos give a nice rundown of all the things to look at when shopping for a camera instead of looking at the general specs listed on the package.

[@ArchangelExile]

I remember when these were a thing, lol.

[@lifebyarthur]

thank you or this comparison video! really!! haha. i got the flip video today. and i plan on using it alot.

[@shaneneave399]

Still have it?

[@johnnymo221]

I love how you say "Trade mark."

[@bingdat]

Ashens is one of the best reviewers in youtube. Hands down.

[@Sarmathal]

Har har har, look how smart I am comparing my smart phone to some antiquated technology.

[@rihardsrozans6920]

Not that antique though. I'm pretty sure there were better phones in 2007 than this thing. Although they probably were more expensive.

[@vgamesx1]

Rihards Rožāns in 2007? uhh no.. were you not alive back then? because cameras on phones were barely a thing back then, at least in comparison of today where nearly every phone has one including feature phones, that said I have an old 2009 smartphone which has a much better camera than the ones shown here which is just a year earlier.

[@rihardsrozans6920]

vgamesx1 I had multiple phones back then, the best cam was on a Sony, I think. Not sure on which one, though.

[@Rick1885]

Reading all of this makes me feel really old.

[@Rhubarb.and.Crustard]

(Great Operation Ivy avatar by the way)

[@scotty_blocks]

Be cool to see some more tech reviews/comparisons like this.

[@topsoil12]

Ive used the Flip camera for my school project and it worked quite well. I used it indoors and outdoors, it works for me mainly because i didnt have to pay for it. They came free for everyone doing the project. Yay for keeping our money!

[@deadchannel.6038]

I had a Flip Video camera when I was younger. 3 of them, in fact. I used them all the time and I ended up recording over 10 hours worth of footage over the course of 3 years.

[@theshankman8682]

Meanwhile a decade ago

[@sandow8575]

I think another reason I liked the Flip Video (I had to use it for school at one point) is that the fact that it is mostly flat at the bottom, it's easy to make a make-shift stand.

[@RinLockhart]

I suddenly remembered this video, in 2018.

[@louisealix]

thank you - you've saved me some money, I was seriously debating getting a Vado for the hols but am now going to get a new memory card for my phone!

[@mlperkins]

Nicely done. You spoke about all the important points and with some humor, which made an otherwise dry video more interesting. I agree with your suggestion to put the money into a better phone.

[@ImagineMedia]

Interesting. Even though I have no intention of ever buying a cam corder such as the ones you reviewed, I still enjoyed watching! Your awesome Ashens, keep up the good work!

[@SirRoxen]

I was hoping to get one of these, now I know to get neither, thanks for the comparison dawg.

[@mubd1234]

Remember when this was relevant?

[@AQWBlaZer91]

Ashens' best choice, don't buy any of them. Wise choice.

[@egeneric]

Cheers !! Loved the witty presentation. I was considering the Flip pro - but have reconsidered the whole deal. I'm sure something smaller with more recording time, etc., etc. will be available soon. Just in time for the holidays, I imagine ...

[@timkamila]

Your review style is brilliant! I got the flip for my 9 year old daughter on ebay for $35. Figured I would see what people think of it.

[@soulhunger1]

It's great to see that even in more serious reviews, you can be just as funny as in your reviews of garbage.

[@dangus69420]

ashens you should do noon comedic reviews like this more often

[@mypetridish]

i love your video ashens! i decided to buy 2 Vados for my younger siblings :D your accent is also quite lovely ;"D

[@JHenryHardy]

Thanks for this, doc! I was planning on getting a Flip, but I won't bother now because the quality is ridiculous. Keep up the good work!

[@Leonartist]

what did you get instead?

[@JHenryHardy]

@@Leonartist lol I can't believe you replied to my 14-year-old comment. I did get a Flip in the end - for my 15th birthday in 2008.

[@Leonartist]

@@JHenryHardy Nice. I love replying to old comments lol.

[@MurphyBorder]

i was considering one of these but you have just saved me my money, thanks! I will stick with the lumix tz6 camera for video. Great review.

[@nobuyukinyuu]

ashens: the problem with the volume is that youtube now post-processes videos with a compressing normalization process which really kills the audio. You need to modulate like a pre-normalized 20,000hz sine wave into the audio mix now in order to prevent nasty hard limiting.

[@MeganoOdles]

Excellent review and a surprising but worthwhile conclusion! top marks!

[@SRMkay]

My younger brothers have a tiny camcorder. It's some cheap brand, and it was about $30-40, I think. However, it's basically as good as both of those camcorders.

[@Alaeriia]

Hey, XviD! I remember that filth.

[@xxxpozed]

That was an excellent comparative review. Don't forget the new iPhone coming out June 19/09 It does video very well! And you'll be able to upload it to KZbin from anywhere without a computer.

[@McrFan5000Studios]

Ultra HD is so much better! Epic quality, better sound, bigger screen. Every flaw you found, fixed! =)

[@AnEnglishmanOverseas]

laugh all you want but when you drop your phone and break it trying to record something I'll be pissing myself

[@supersnapp]

Excellent review. This review is exactly how a comparison should be done, and influenced my purchase decision. It demonstrated that audio not to be good enough for my needs.

[@kitfromvideos]

Thanks for the suggestion

[@DanaTheInsane]

Its always nice to see your reviews, even of real products, just don't forget to review the utter crap we have all grown to know and loathe!

[@irwin770]

We should have more of these reviews, very helpful

[@mattfox14]

Keep banging them out Ashens!

[@PeterBarnes2]

Amazing prediction!

[@kman1111]

I have the flip, its awesome

[@Rossb69]

thanks for the review! it was a great help...and it was fun to watch too

[@danielgill797]

I had a flip video, not sure what model but it was one of the best things I ever got.

[@locoattack1210]

I disagree; I really liked the packaging of the Flip Video.

[@SubUrbanNinja-EDC]

Very nicely done video...and thank you for the review subject. I wanted to buy one or the other. How do you like the new Flip Mino?

[@Zachamei]

Exactly what i've done, Ashens. Bought a Sony Ericsson W800i and put a 4 gig memory card in it. Thanks for the review! ;D

[@blesshiscottonsocks]

the flip video cameras can do HD now, i have one, its AMAZING!!

[@MusicMan32K]

I have a Flip and I like it. Though I've discovered that the sound records from the front and the back, so when you record, make sure you don't have your finger over the mic or the sound will cut in and out.

[@ProgrammerInProgress]

Ahh, those were the days, I remember when these first came out, I was using a DV camcorder at the time by envied the portability and lack of cassette motor sound during recording :D

[@BassTechnologic]

The Flip Ultra only records audio to my left ear

[@Yeenoid]

Does your left ear accept USB?

[@cutemimi25]

Later Flip Camcorders or on some settings they will be both stereo instead of Mono.

[@EntertainmentTrends]

I'm surprised you don't do more serious reviews, you're just as good at this as doing reviews on random tat. :P

[@DragonsIayer182]

I still have an original flip camera...

[@vidgamescool]

@Kanekals Actually I believe that the 3GS has a 3MP camera, opposed to the 5MP camera you are referring to in the iPhone 4.

[@snakemaster7]

Fisher Price! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL omg these are the only videos that really make me laugh. Thanks ashens!

[@mrray52381]

Checking in for the year 2020! Just bought a bunch of 'usb arm' camcorders off ebay for nostalgia sake.. awsome review!

[@miricoleciona]

Best review I have ever seen!!! good on you!

[@jamesplasencia]

great review! you helped me in my decision...i will continue to use my wifes sony cyber shot for all my video...thanks

[@daniel.holbrook]

For some reason this review speaks to me, like it has some deeper significance. He introduces two gadgets with the same purpose; one sleek and stylish, the other chunky and childish. The sleeker one is cheaper, has a nicer screen, and all-around seems the better choice. The chunky brute records considerably higher-quality video- a message that things which seem expensive yet underwhelming might just be expensive for good reason, and aesthetics and presentation can be a sloppy cover-up for a poorer overall product. Then he invalidates the entire review with an extremely legit and obvious suggestion, which has only become truer with age.

[@blue387]

This is an excellent review. Maybe you should have your own television show.

[@thecameracrafter5652]

I have the predecessor of the Flip ultra. I got it in 2006 and I still use it today.

[@Lachlant1984]

Were you referring to the Shiney Shiney tech video review of these 2 cameras at the start of your video? I actually don't think much of Shiney Shiney Tech, because the videographers always zoom in for too close to the subjects, and of a 17" screen, it's a bit much. I'm so glad to see another review from you, I really like your reviews. They're entertaining, they make me laugh, and I really enjoy them.

[@mattbjrs]

You don't need an extension, but it would be a wise precaution. One little bump and you can easily snap off the flip's usb connection. The creative vado's is much more flexible but can also be damaged if bent too much.