Vocal Thickening Trick in Cakewalk by Bandlab

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In this video we'll be taking a look at a great vocal thickening trick in Cakewalk by Bandlab, using no plugins whatsoever. This was a technique originally by Warren Huart from Produce Like a Pro, and has been adapted for Cakewalk.
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[@mikeprice2293]

Worked a treat on a female lead vocal I had been struggling to make shine, thanks a lot Mike and also Warren Huart

[@CreativeSauce]

Awesome! So glad to my hear this!

[@PeteJohnsMusic]

I want Mike floating in a blue bubble telling me recording tips 24/7.

[@CreativeSauce]

Its a new meditation. ommmmm

[@joshuasamplemusic]

Even when you're eating, or sleeping? I'd get sick of it. No offence, Mike!

[@davebops2478]

I'd wish for a direct line to Mike whenever I click on 'help' 😁Better yet, a voice-activation Mike that answers the question "Aw, how do I do that?" every time I get stuck... Hope that appears in a future video!

[@striverfor7628]

1:14 1:48 DPDP - Duplicate, Pan, Delay, Pitch. 2:12 Duplication and panning. Right click > Duplicate Track. Tick Events and select repetition quantity. 3:02 Select the new tracks to send them to one bus, holding Ctrl, select New Stereo Bus as their output. Change colour of bus. 4:12 Set up the pan for the tracks. 4:50 Add small amount of delay to the duplicates so they don't all happen at the same time. Preferences > Customisation > Nudge. Set Nudge 1 absolute time to 10 millisecs and 24 for Nudge 2. 6:25 Press 3 and 6 on numpad to move it LATER, pressing 1 (and 4?) will move it earlier. 7:04 Add delays. 8:15 Listen test 8:48 Add pitch variation to duplicates using Groove Clip. In Properties panel, Groove Clip > Stretch to Tempo. Apply -3.0 value. And so on. 11:32 Blend the duplicates with the main vocal. Start with duplicates fader turned right down. 13:00 Vary it, play with delay times, and the pitch variation. Try on parts other than vocals. Make variations on EQs in the duplicates.

[@ten1five402]

Not all heroes wear capes

[@strive4impact]

Today is my first day ever learning Cakewalk and I'm so glad to have found this tutorial. Thank you!

[@CreativeSauce]

Welcome!

[@bevo65]

This guy is a born teacher. An uncommon skill.

[@andrevierbucher2863]

I never noticed that you can simply change the pitch under "Groove clip". Thanks Mike!

[@DavidMaclin351]

A lot of these videos have bonus learning!

[@nerenahd]

I've heard Mike's voice so much lately through his videos that it's like family now 😅

[@Ardivilli]

I learn something new every time I watch his videos! I thought I was a Sonor Guru! He is the real Guru!

[@drwho37]

It's September 2022, and I still reference back to your videos. Thank you so much brother.

[@YogiMcCaw]

We recorded an original Samba jazz song I wrote and I applied the technique to the lead flute. The flautist has a beautiful custom made wooden flute and this thickening technique just sounded absolutely gorgeous on it! Thanks again, Mike!

[@phillwildman]

Been using the Nudge commands for a long time, but never knew that the Number keypad buttons controlled it, 🧐 Will give it a try tomoz. 😎

[@kristynanovakova3832]

Thank you a lot, thanks to your videos I made a perfect song for our beloved teacher in our school choire.

[@ti13cz]

This is awesome, mate! Perfect explanation. Perfect delivery. Perfect tutorial! PS: i like your speakers. Looks neat. That's the only thing lacking in my studio now.

[@CreativeSauce]

Yes, I love them!! Thanks for watching:)

[@martynroach182]

Excellent video, I've often double tracked a vocal, but never experimented with minute pitch shifting. I'm away to try this now, thanks Mike, your a real star mate.

[@CreativeSauce]

Have fun!

[@DaGabbaGangsta]

must admit you've done our old sonar a lot of good the these video's mate

[@EddieGreene-kf7ml]

Mike, I tried your vocal thickening and it worked well. I add the differing EQs on each track as well. But I went a step further. I wanted to have a single vocal sound for the verses but wanted a "choir" effect for the chorus. So I routed all the duplicates to a VOX Dup bus and then used automation to have them come in and shine more during the chorus. Thanks so much buddy for the excellent content.

[@reevant2215]

This has to be one of your best tricks yet. Thanks a heap. As is normal very well done. Thanks Mike. Tony

[@CreativeSauce]

Thanks Tony. I can't really take much credit, but I'm glad you found it's useful.

[@paulbush8881]

Thanks Mike always a pleasure to watch your videos lots of information at a steady pace cheers from Austria

[@CreativeSauce]

Likewise Paul, your comments are alw asys appreciated!

[@timothyreynolds6255]

Thank you for Cakewalk by BandLab - step-by-step tutorial - on this technique. I did like Warren Huart's' video, but yours was just perfect as I am a long time Cakewalk enthusiast and rookie at mixing all things DAW. You're the best, Mike.

[@billesposito2112]

Mike that was awesome . Those vocals went from just ok to huge and full of life . Thanks my friend . Also the shortcuts are very helpful .

[@amusik7]

Super cool - no expensive plugins needed. Sounds superb!

[@vibhanshubiswas8729]

That is so easy and a game changer without any extra money!!!!

[@g.w.vanderhaeghe1122]

I have used a similar method using eq’s , just to fatten it up ( yes and the pitch and delay but processed using a tc helicon voice live rack ) thanks , keep up the great videos ( I learn something new every time )

[@davidwiese7803]

Very much appreciate what you for for Cakewalk. I was one of the original cakewalk users (in the old days!). I was doing some recording almost a couple years ago and then got off it. So I needed desperately to review and also learn some new tricks. Your videos are a Godsend. If I can't figure it out from watching your videos, then I don't need to do it! Thanks again.

[@joeshmoe7967]

This is a more complex version of something I have played with from time to time. My approach changed the length and thus the timing to mimic 'doubling', as you never sing (or play etc) the song 100% exactly the same no matter how good you are. I wasn't adding the pitch changes, so i want to try that. I also was not working with 4 pairs. Good info, even though i don't use Cake Walk, this approach will work in any DAW. I will definitely watch other videos for tips and tricks that are universal in general. Always a good day when I learn something new. - Cheers

[@derpfalzer7641]

your tutorials are really great, without any filling words, right straight to the points. Thank you for teaching CW.

[@craigjenkins6917]

Great video. Been wanting to know how to do this is cakewalk for ages. Thanks very much

[@johnriley8314]

Again another wonderful video from my new FAVORITE CAKEWALK GURU!!! THANKS AND KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MIKE !!

[@ronnyjuliette3699]

Mike thank you my Bro. This is more than point Blank. This is Studio Engineer MASTER CLASS.

[@coolanandsn10]

Amazing teacher.... falling in love with cakewalk ...Thank you Mike

[@ianhickox8013]

Iron mike, dropping some b15 knowledge bombs on us! I love your videos and you've singlehandedly helped me get better at producing. The difference between my first effort and the 2nd effort after your vids was night and day. Thanks my dude

[@agentcalm]

I clicked on LIKE by mistake. I was looking for the INCREDIBLE button. Thanks Mike. Great to see you on Roberts chat with Warren last night.

[@arnemagnusson8141]

Good and interesting video as many others from you.

[@Fretboard_Chaos_Productions]

Great video Mike, I have used this effect on an audio book book my partner is creating and the results were great, surprisingly better than using a vocal doubling plug-in.

[@joeshmoe7967]

Agree. One thing I hate about plug ins, is you get a million people sounding all the same. I hear it in Pop and 'New Country', where every record sounds like they all used the same 4 plugins. I hear a band live, and like them, then hear the record and I can't listen to it. - Cheers

[@brynmorgan2904]

Thanks for that, I can’t wait to try it out, cheers.

[@CreativeSauce]

Have fun!!

[@TaffmanGuyo]

Brilliant - many thanks Mike. Best wishes from another Mike, in the UK.

[@CreativeSauce]

Thanks for watching Mike!

[@GPM80]

Excellent Mike. Always loved Warren's video and this one just as good

[@abdeton1899]

Absolutely amazing video and so well explained! Thanks so much, Mike :)

[@hellodappsbeataccount7029]

Will the shortcuts work with the regular numbers? i dont have a numpad unfortunately lol Great video! Been trying to up my engineering to release better music and do everything myself, and this channel definitely helps.

[@blulacez4421]

Sweet! I think, I'll try this on a chorus of a song, I'm mixing!! Thank you Mike!

[@paulhaullussy8662]

Great trick! I'm going to try that in my next song! And yes, I'm a big Warren Huart fan too!

[@CreativeSauce]

Good luck! Make it your own, experimentation with this s fun.

[@survivelife2708]

Thanks for that! So helpful!

[@wonder0428]

Very helpful - thank you very much!!

[@snareofficial]

Thanks for the video(s), we are recording our first cd and thanks to all your tutorials it's working out 😁👍

[@Rob0911]

Very good video, it helped me a lot, thanks

[@soureel]

Fascinating. And explained so clearly. Thank you!

[@mikemoser682]

Mike, as usual, another great vid, well done!

[@davidtiller1478]

Mike, thank you for another very helpful and informative video.

[@jacquesboileau6087]

Just learned how to use nudge and pitch! Great! These can be useful skills in more than this trick! Thanks!

[@brownsnakestudios277]

It’s a great technique, I have been using Waves Doubler, but I’m going to give this a go on my next song. Warren gave a great demo, but this is made it clearer using it through Cakewalk and steps are relevant to the use of program.

[@CreativeSauce]

Yes, if nothing else, it's just a fun experiment where we learn about what's happening.

[@mmaire1]

@@CreativeSauce That's the absolute truth, Mr. Snake...

[@SpinalNewsPlus]

i like tha guy's lessons buT HiS voice puts me in a hypnosis ,.,still keep RockIn bruH much appreciated 🤟

[@Yahoomediaclub]

Wow...Fab video once gain.....Vox Thickening. Awesome. ..⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🎸🎧

[@rosisigurdsson3435]

I find you very helpful! My thanks and appreciation.

[@Capt-Cran]

Just discovered your channel ... great videos ... content and delivery 'top-shelf" ... thank you for sharing ... :)

[@THETHINKINGMINDS]

Beautiful work, well-detailed. Thanks a whole lot.

[@raidicmusic]

Hey Mike: one of the best descriptions ever see in this trick !

[@XELOhh1]

Very nice I will be trying this for sure... Thanks Mike...🙏

[@petejazzmanwilliams2779]

Awesome stuff as always - thanks Mike!!

[@saitenkiller]

Very good video once again, thanks a lot! Funny enough, I've read about this delay/pitch trick on vocals in a mixing book (written by Uli Eisner) from the analog days and used it on my very first projects back in the early 2000s (on a Pentium 2, mind you...). It's a decent alternative to double tracked vocals in case the singer has trouble nailing down two tight tracks (which I was never really capable of...). So I highly appreciate the reminder to experiment with that technique again in upcoming projects!

[@CreativeSauce]

Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

[@sumosonic]

Basically this was only a manual way of adding chorus effect to the audio. This can be done using chorus effect vst plugins which follows certain algorithms which are certainly not in so much of control of ours, but they are meant to deliver nice outputs faster than you would get by duplicating the tracks and adjusting the things for every track. There are dozens of free plugins for the same. Yea I admit that this manual technique gives a really decent and sweet effect.

[@luigidaniellmusic]

AMAZING explaned BRO thanks so much much MASTER

[@ue2lelambaevanamibianoviri255]

This surely worked for me... Thanks

[@SeanOBrien888]

I love your channel. You are a great teacher and your productions are professional. I would like to make a video request... How to do gang vocals with only one person.

[@sitgesstudio]

great tutorial!

[@blakedanner5911]

Love this! You always come with great cakewalk content! I'd love to see how to do some sidechaining in the future maybe?

[@lonidgubko8268]

Thanks for your lessons from Belarus!

[@newell2339]

Spot on as always. I've been doing this manually on vocals and guitars forever and never used the nudge feature. Now I will (nudge nudge wink wink say no more)!! :) That'll be a huge time saver in my workflow. Thanks Mike.

[@randyk.hunter2780]

I am going to do this on sax 🎷. Great video

[@DanielFitzgeraldPiano]

Awesome post! Thanks Mike for sharing your wonderful and clearly deep, deep knowledge of all things DAW :-)

[@mimojapan]

Neat, didn't know about that nudge thingy :D

[@CreativeSauce]

Ummm, me too until a few days ago!

[@joegrint6280]

Interesting technique Mike - thanks!

[@CoolLava]

Excellent as always. Thank you.

[@123innovate]

This was great! Thanks for sharing.

[@chrisstringer375]

Great video as always Mike. I intend to try this out on a female vocal that I have.

[@mmaire1]

Awesome tricks, Mike, and by the way, pls tell the lady she has a beautiful voice, and I love the tune, as well.

[@bennie_p]

Thanks Mike, I'm hoping this will work well with my niece's Vocals. Will give this a go later 😉

[@vanessajazp6341]

With duplicate tracks I make, I like to go heavy on effects such as chorus, delay and reverb, with the main vocal track being mostly dry other than a tiny hint of overdrive. I also offset duplicate tracks by a few milliseconds to help fatten things up.

[@Theylovehim]

Can you show how to do the reverse reverb trick for vocals on BandLab??? Pleaaaaazeeeeeeeee

[@CreativeSauce]

Ok, will see put that on the list :)

[@johnriley8314]

@@CreativeSauce ... YEAH Mike... Videos on Bandlab would be GREAT if ya needin a break from Cakewalk,or just wanna "MIX" things up abit!!!!!! Get it??? LOL LOL Anyways...the DESKTOP OR Laptop version too...NOT THE PHONE ONE..(They're simple ... But ive been havin audio issues with Bandlab on my Laptop...Windows 10 updated,all drivers updated, for BOTH Laptop & my TASCAM 208i audio/interface, & sound settings are correct on Laptop...I think I may have a ROUTING issue...

[@bLuNTsMoKe251]

Thanks boss i Appreciate it

[@johncostopoulos7741]

Many thanks! Great tip / help

[@CreativeSauce]

My absolute pleasure:)

[@mgcinenijoelmartins2375]

Thank you Mike once again.

[@junorodrigues]

Thank's 4 all man!!

[@rightonrightonrighton]

Hello this was a gem of a tip! But I found it hard to use my num pad for nudge (maybe because of my laptop model?) However what I found you can do is go to process and select nudge from there. It has 3 and 6 as options. Just for anyone who had a similar bit of trouble :)

[@lodelface]

Where do I find this option , as I have the same problem you were facing

[@grichcodinera3393]

This video is very is really helpful

[@DiegoAmbrósio-o6m]

This is fabulous! It is a lesson on the wall of sound technique. Are there different versions for guitar, bass, drums and overall mix?

[@myrio1]

That was a great tutorial~Thanks~

[@christopherantonio1331]

Very Helpful thank you so much!!!

[@leonbanks719]

Very helpful video

[@chuckychuck7507]

Great stuff

[@pravo.]

Great mike appreciated

[@CreativeSauce]

My pleasure, have fun with it!

[@pravo.]

@@CreativeSauce always mate

[@fidelontiveros280]

First off Mike, your tutorials are freaking awesome! I have learned so much in just the couple of weeks that I have been subscribed and wish to someday be as efficient as you are. I have a question regarding microphones, I have an MXL 990 and 991 condenser mic pack I purchased from Guitar Center years ago and haven't really used much because I have a hard time MAKING time for recording. My question/problem is that on a few of my vocal recordings, during playback, sound as if I have used a pitch shift and makes my voice almost shrill and quite thin. My recording booth is a small closet that I have added sound dampening padding to but I'm not sure if the space is just too small and still getting bouncing sounds or is my voice really that "off-sounding"? From different people I have been told that my vocals are smooth and strong but from what I am hearing, I think people are just trying to make me feel better. Can you make a video that shows more in depth, how to set vocal levels and any tips on getting that perfect track recorded. Much appreciation and thanx for taking the time. 🤘😵‍💫👍

[@johnriley8314]

This is cool Mike,& Warren is a GREAT resource for Home Studio stuff too...Been watchin some of his videos for awhile now.... Hes a Pro Tools guy tho...LOL LOL... Didnt he record Van Halen back in da day???

[@JackBlovits]

Great info , well done!

[@upstairzstudio8480]

Loved Mike .. thanks a million 😍

[@CreativeSauce]

Thank you!

[@abhishekkabadi8884]

Tremendously helpful love u Mike.....I'd also like to see a vocoder tutorial from you for cakewalk.....TAL vocoder to be precise

[@Gusrikh1]

Very interesting and educational..

[@bodkwlbhdlsyhspdkgldpsldhgi9dj]

Thanks! Great tip!

[@jonieevangelista]

awesome!!!!

[@axelgottwald]

Great!!

[@jameswatson5576]

Hey Mike, your videos have been so helpful as I've just started learning how to use DAWs. I was wondering how the results of this technique compare to using the vocal doubler settings in the Cakewalk vocal plug in. Thanks