Creepy Moments # 23

[@suomixit2222]

About MMO cheating: there is a permadeath mmo on roblox called "deepwoken" that got a big popularity spike due to being an actually really well made game that stood out there. Not only that, it's a sequel to a similar older permadeath mmo called "rogue lineage" (died due to way more cheaters, and corrupt mod staff.) People would crash servers just to dupe 1 item, noclip-fly, and if you say something like "clipped" or "Caught you cheating lol", they would target you with gangs pretending their best to play legit so they can get away with killing you over and over, then mock you. It doesn't help that i used to be a cheater in this game too. It got to the point where cheaters got mad against other cheaters.

[@MasterZebulin]

I wish shit like that was illegal. I really do.

[@triangulum8869]

help in gaia

[@basketbomberslackingson4417]

This gentleman realized the error of his ways. Be like this gentleman.

[@k.m.m.a81]

@@MasterZebulin to fortnite it's illegal

[@Infindox]

This one is actually... Really creepy. Considering how other mmos can be very entertaining to get attached to your character (especially XIV which is more story driven), I'd be heartbroken if something like that could happen.

[@johnnywantyoudead5113]

Character in your pfp

[@who-the-fuckgivesafuck]

Half the people have such ugly characters that it would make the game better if we could turn them all into Minfillia.

[@trustytrest]

It actually does happen temporarily during a main story quest, along with you being way weaker and struggling just to fight single enemies, compared to the hordes you can fight before.

[@acesamm]

Poor Nol though. I mean, she was probably well liked before this hacking mess happened.

[@ikagura]

She's a less interesting Fonewearl than Elly and Rupika but she's just a journalist who wanted to seek the truth.

[@Wiskdecreb]

Guess you can call the NOL outbreak the "NOLification".

[@ultralight9625]

your absolutely horrible thank you

[@sera-ch]

NOLPointerException

[@KingShade1]

Similar to this old early CG show I used to watch called 'Reboot.' The show was all about how life for 'Sprites' was inside a computer and 'User' video games dropped in as big purple cubes. Any Sprites caught in the cube had to play against the User and if the User won the game, the Sprites got Nullified, which meant they lost their Sprite forms and turned into these little slug things called 'Nuls' God I loved that show!

[@DarthPaperBoy]

NOL was the worst! It only ever happened to me on v.1 of the Dreamcast version, but it was absolutely ghastly to just have someone blast away my character. I learned later that you can avoid getting NOL'd by taking out the VMU right after it happened so the game never had a chance to save, but you'd still lose anything in your inventory that wasn't equipped by doing that so it wasn't always ideal. Though your mention of weird cult-likeness of all the NOLs reminds me that back when I played there were a heckuva lot of green HUmars named Lavis for some reason. That character isn't an NPC so I dunno if any code would do that, but it was a similar experience of seeing multiple Lavis's just hanging out sometimes.

[@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001]

This truly is awful, imagine playing in a Pokémon tournament or something and then your entire team turns into Slaking. Horrific especially since you could spend a near infinite amount of time preparing something just to get it all trashed by some stupid rando having a bad day.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Nah. I heard that guy has amazing stats that are offset by only being able to act every other turn.

[@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001]

@@ilikecurry2345 Stats on a Truant Pokémon don't help very much when you run into literally anything with Protect, then you're just left with death fodder that might unintentionally KO a non-protect user

[@DoctorNovakaine]

@@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 That's when you cheat back and give them Huge Power or Wonder Guard. Two can play at THAT game!

[@pirupami9746]

your entire team turns into Magikarp

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

​@@ilikecurry2345Amazing stats mean jack shit when you ability forces you to be extremely exploitable and borderline useless. Especially in the context of a tournament, assuming its a doubles format, where most mons would run protect, you can just get protect-blocked then smacked while all you can do is watch helplessly. Of course, actual tournaments probably have measures to avoid such rampant cheating... I think. Never played in a tournament myself.

[@primaputra7079]

"Nol" means "zero" in my native tongue, so there's that. Eerie stuff.

[@ilikecurry2345]

Much like the guy who said they celebrate Christmas on January 7th, you must be Russian.

[@rezzan8641]

Jeez, this reminds me of how Creepy the GM Jail in Final Fantasy XIV is. All the happy music and background noise is gone and you're suddenly just whisked away into a blank jail cell, trapped with a shadowy figure. If that's not a way to dissuade bad behavior, i don't know what is.

[@Infindox]

They actually during one Rising event (the in-game holiday that celebrates the Calamity/rebirth of the game) let you go inside an area that was like a GM jail (though it wasn't one) and yeah, never wanna risk that. Lol

[@trustytrest]

@@Infindox got a video of it by any chance?

[@arronomus8026]

NOL could also stand for Non-Organic Lifeform. Considering they replaced your character with an artificial body...

[@Borti_Ovi]

I would like to argue that I agree with the Golden rule only regarding multiplayer games *with stakes or serious competition*. If I’m playing casually with a group of friends, let’s bring in Double Dash for example, I would dust off my old Action Replay and put codes in just to mess with them. When they figure it out (which is gonna be quick, mind you! I’ll be going 400cc in the first race), we either reset to vanilla or continue messing with codes for everyone. Game breaking codes are fun for all situations as long as the game isn’t meant to be taken seriously.

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

Agreed, as long as everyone playing is fine with it, cheat codes are pretty damn fun!

[@XelchanTheBrave]

Very interesting. I know a little bit about PSO in its heyday but I sure didn't know about this. I hope this video spreads around because this kind of horror story would be lost to time otherwise!

[@OrobaSpyro]

Assimilation in an MMO??? That's wild, I had no idea it was that dire for Phantasy Star Online. Interesting to hear about though, thanks for the interesting video!

[@ikagura]

You want to hear what's funnier? In the lore of the game: the military and scientists of Pioneer 1 (the ship before the one you're aboard) have been corrupted and assimilated as well by Dark Falz. It's implied that the monsters in the ruins may be corrupted versions of some hunter classes like the Delsaber because of his 3 hit combo.

[@OrobaSpyro]

@@ikagura Jeez, that’s way too fitting…

[@kitestar]

Oops all NOL! Also why am I reminded of the faction of the same name from blazblue the librarium or whatever it’s called

[@JoshenBits]

That's terrible! I don't mind if someone uses a harmless cheat, just for fun, but...making you lose your character? That's just mean.

[@agenericdude]

Thank goodness i always played PSO offline, i can't even imagine the frustration of getting far in the game, including finding super rare equipment and then losing it altoghether because someone else tried to be funny at me.

[@SonicWarrior1]

Man, Mickey really let himself go

[@raziyatheseeker]

And that was *before* he got roboticized.

[@XaneMyers]

That's what happens when your owners don't let you rest in public domain peace and instead keep you copyrighted forever...

[@damonkatumaru]

Oh gawd, just remembered the Frozen Screen of DEATH where it corrupts your saves! It's one of the reasons the Gamecube port was notorious as well as how pirates managed to rip gamecube discs from the system. It's why if you want a good multiplayer experience with PSO, play the PSO:BB private servers since most of your saves are on the server side. Just beware that Episode 4 breaks the game's balance. But the FSOD is another spooky thing in PSOGC. The falzspawns can be another topic is since relates to body-horror, but sadly they been fallen to modern terms of technophobia thanks to games like Metroid Dread and Breath of the Wild. To me, the DOLLS are not scary in NGS since it's just not a phobia I personally don't relate to. In PSO1 and Classic PSO2, The falzspawns were more like the monsters in Evil Dead-ish space bugs where their D-cells processes their victims. Dark Force was the sources of this cancer-like darkness where its divided itself and spread around to the body that is the galaxy via their avatars. One of their nests was actually a destroyed Pioneer ship filled with blood of their victims that is very poisonous to the touch . It shows how deadly the Falzspawns can be if left unchallenged. I get Sega is trying something different, but chasing trends is just not the way.

[@VulpesHilarianus]

They carried some of that theme of body horror and loss of self over into Phantasy Star Universe and it's two spinoff series. The SEED honestly are scary in-universe. They can just drop out of space wherever they feel like, take over the local wildlife, and propagate like mad. Even crazier is they can bring back the dead with all their memories intact, so you never know who is a monster. When you see the size of some of the creatures they corrupt and use as breeding hosts you realize how screwed the GUARDIANS are.

[@rcblazer]

I didn't get to play PSO online at all, so I never knew such a thing was even possible. The idea of permanently losing a character I had built from scratch and having it replaced with something like a NOL would likely make me permanently quit any game!

[@jvts8916]

That would definitely give a bad reputation to the character. I think the only way the cheat could possibly be worse is if the admin punishment was accidentally given to the player with the hacked avatar forced upon them.

[@KodaKitten333]

Oh and that golden rule I holeHEARTedly aggressive with and a happy anti pairicy screen is just beats and shapes if you haven't covered it

[@KodaKitten333]

@404 TV I know

[@KodaKitten333]

@404 TV stupid autocorrect

[@KodaKitten333]

@@gamingcharactersletsplays5384 eh I forsaw this happening

[@unnamedgoon6196]

What

[@Wings_Of_Nightfall]

If it's online, there's GOING to be trolls. It doesn't matter what it is, when it's happening or what the rules are, people are just going to try their best to ruin it. If you don't believe me… *you're on a site that is full of it*

[@MasterZebulin]

And it's time someone or something made that shit stop.

[@sammer1097]

@@MasterZebulin Exactly, idiots who preach that it's wrong to complain about trolls and say you should "just ignore them" are the main reason WHY there is no end to them. By just accepting trolls' existence and acting like the people who are mad about them are in the wrong, people are only empowering the trolls. The whole mentality of "don't feed the trolls" is not just moronic and hypocritical, it's poisonous. People like OP are just as much a problem as the trolls and need to pull their heads out of their own asses.

[@pkmntrainerred4247]

The moment you told that you lose your OG character FOREVER, I was *horrified* . I already hated online or multiplayer cheating for purpose of trolling or malicious shit (I think it's fine in offline single player or ok in multi-player as long as the person(s) affected by it are ok with it), this just made me scared of it.

[@knightofarkronia9968]

It’s like the bots in TF2, only worse!

[@ArcadeStriker]

Awesome to hear that you got to experience PSO on Dreamcast online around the time it was around, no console re-releases or private servers... ...but REALLY sucks to hear that something like that happened to you and even was a rampant issue in the game; don't know if this was ever documented by someone else but can't imagine sinking so many hours into an MMO (I actually did that for quite a bit in two PSO Blue Burst private servers years ago) only to see my character wiped, turned into an NPC, and then see everybody else falling victim to the exact same curse.

[@danielcrawford4141]

SUBMIT THE FLESH

[@XaneMyers]

Is it weird that I think of Roblox experiences with poor security when you were talking about people affecting others, turning them into her? I guess in a way, this is literally how exploitable Roblox was before they forced FilteringEnabled on.

[@TheLakabanzaichrg]

So journalists are soulless clones, that pretty much sums it

[@DiegoG2004]

I wonder if someone got turned into a NOL and then got to max level and awesome equipment. The leader of all NOLs... Only for a funny guy to reset them back anyway.

[@lunatic0verlord10]

I'm never playing that game online until someone reenacts Unfriended on these cheaters.

[@endermenon4836]

My feelings towards cheat devices, cheat codes, and really just cheating in general is...complicated, to say the least. If it's to gain an unfair advantage over other online players, or do something like in the video, or just be that asshole who likes to ruin other players' experience, then no, don't do it. But if it's to, say, get a little bit of help for a particularly frustrating boss or level in a one player game, or if you and a few friends just want to screw around together and see what the game is actually capable of? Then I think it'd be okay. Then again, I did use Gameshark for RE4 to always have the rocket launcher available (because I think rocket launchers in video games are fun that's why), so...

[@Kenshin_The_Guardian_Flareon]

In a sense that whole thing sounds interesting and funny but yeah that would suck to become a different character, though from my experience from Blue Burst that Hunewerals start weak but later become amazing all rounders due to having access to high level Techs (I believe 25), buffing and debuffing, high mental power so those Techs do loads of damage and heal, along with TP Regen, of course I'm not sure about back on the original...

[@DoctorSpacebar]

And I thought Sniper bots were bad. This is worse.

[@Dracomut]

Dang, where is the music from 7:08 from? It sounds so familiar.

[@batofdestiny]

KZbin is full of NOLs these days.

[@IamANOTHERperson417]

Lol

[@pirupami9746]

censors

[@letsmakeit110]

Challenge mode was the best part of the game anyways. You played each part of the game starting from a fixed level and fixed gear. Basically a roguelike with no meta progress. Except there were 14 different levels (9 for episode 1 and 5 for episode 2), each one getting progressively more difficult but with better starting level/gear. Each level took about an hour to complete. You lived off the land always hoping the next drop was a broken weapon/armor or a sorely-needed consumable, and the faster you completed each stage the better the "main game" reward at the end (I always just gave them away, content to play more challenge mode with different classes/playgroups) The main game had door camping, which was kind of annoying/slow if you were underleveled, but in c-mode it made for a cool strategic decision, because no matter how bad or unlucky you were you could always slog through. It would just be slow. To get the fastest times you had to take risks. When you died in challenge mode, you left a little grave with the last thing you said written on it. You could see the graves of the other players you were with. One said "screw this I'm going in" kek.

[@letsmakeit110]

Always thought it would be cool for other rpgs to implement this method of playing as an option. I hate getting "analysis paralysis" in fire emblem for example because the exp I take in chapter 1 is going to snowball the rest of the game.

[@gaddyric]

I loved the low res hearts. Nice touch! Lol

[@WhiteFangofWar]

It's not her fault that assholes decide to use her character model to damage people's save files. Stuff like that is why I quit World of Warcraft. I didn't even have such great gear yet someone still saw fit to steal my characters and sell all their things to feed their gold farming empire.

[@MasterZebulin]

There needs to be a law against griefing. Fuck, make it a felony while you're at it.

[@sergiomendoza5165]

Is more like a creepypasta story.

[@stungunnotapplicable1953]

Well, if it can be done with cheat devices, it can likely also be undone with cheat devices though you'd need to rebuild your data, which would mean keeping track of your character. Having never played this game, just how much of your character is lost in this process? Is it just your visual appearance, or do stats/inventory also get wiped/reset? Is anything maintained? And more importantly, is there any actual legit ingame place where you are temporarially made to control an NPC? If not, I'd have to wonder why this kind of code would exist in the first place, from a programming standpoint. EDIT: Did some nosing around and found that it indeed does replace EVERYTHING. However, because PSO doesn't use server-side saves (everything about your progress is stored locally on your VMU (at least in the DC version)), one could actually if you pulled it out or powered off the console in time, stop this from overwriting your data. In theory if you had a way to back up VMU data, this could be further protection from the hack though I don't know if there was at the time a way to easily do that.

[@ShiftyGuy777]

1:03 Man, it's very tempting to break this rule. But I don't do it in the concern in pissing people off, I'm more afraid of getting banned.

[@cactifreezus2173]

Mickey Mouse F-bombing is the best thing ever

[@jimmytheghost8317]

Ugh I couldn't agree more. I'm never really interested in online play other than LANs these days for those very reasons you laid out. When you can play against everybody, you end up playing against anybody.

[@49ersfanMatt]

whats with the mickey mouse saying fuck off and bastard enemies lol lol

[@commanderjames5564]

Indeed, Cheat only in Single Player mode on non online games.

[@chaosgreyblood]

So this happened long before cheating became a thing in Destiny 2. Wow! Lemme tell ya, Git, there was an awful lot of cheating in Destiny 2, especially when it became to PVP in general and in Trials of Osiris. There were a number of gamers that could use cheating mods to give them incredible range with their weapons, clip through obstacles, zip by the battlefield like you're Flash, get power ammo out of the blue.... There were even people that created cheating programs for Destiny 2 and other games so that people could pay them and get ahead in the PVP aspect of the game. Bungie thankfully caught onto this and developed an anti-cheat method with the help of another company to set things up, find cheaters and ban them for life from the game. It has had its stones and thorns at the beginning, but it's getting along pretty well so far. Why, there were even two of the biggest providers of the cheat mods hit hard with the ban hammer AND a lawsuit to pay for damages done through cheating. Cheaters never and shouldn't ever prosper.

[@Ren-bo7bj]

I admit, after your talk about cheating around 1:30, I was expecting TF2 to come up lol.

[@solgaleo3533]

I haven’t checked in in a while and I gotta say I love the new profile picture and such

[@Doctor_Dont]

Nice PFP, Git!

[@ShadeMeadows]

;D Darn love ya stuff!

[@batofdestiny]

So wait, you become an NPC?

[@nikoladedic6623]

Oh, wow. This gave me a story idea.

[@medusathedecepticon]

The game looks like fun honestly but it sucks that a bunch a cheaters ruined it.

[@ulkimion]

Are there any other downsides after becoming that npc? besides the immediate ones

[@Jordan3DS]

After looking it up online, it looks like you also lost all of your levels and equipment, as well. So it's basically just erasing your entire save data that you might have put hundreds of hours into.

[@ulkimion]

@@Jordan3DS oh yeah, i was thinking of something like not being able to lv up or being unable to equip stuff o:

[@borger4505]

So long ago i installed an MMORPG called Legends of Idleon (about a year ago), but i stopped playing it due to it becoming boring (also drama with the dev being kind of an asshole to the community) and i know there are also a lot of cheaters in that game, so i'm very glad they don't have the power to change someone elses stats, otherwise that would have been truly game breaking

[@ikagura]

Christopher NOLan

[@pyroflare7774]

I think the video is messed up, I hear the sounds but the entire video is a black screen

[@fIorapetals]

Geeze, some people always just have to cause chaos don’t they? I feel like I’ve heard this game’s name before although I never played it. World of Warcraft girlie myself but since I was too shy to talk to anyone in-game the worst that ever happened to me was people killing a rare spawn I wanted to tame (annoying but as a kid with way too much free time camping for most of them to respawn was easy). I have heard WoW horror stories though…

[@Jordan3DS]

I remember in WOW years ago, there was this event where you could catch the plague in cities, and it would turn you into a ghoul and let you fight and infect players who were healthy. It really freaked me out, my friends and I thought that the world was ending or something!

[@fIorapetals]

@@Jordan3DS ;; I remember hearing about that! I think it happened to me one time too and freaked me right out haha. And then there was that one chaotic time period where you could get this one boss' debuff onto your hunter pet, dismiss it, and then bring it out into a major city to watch it spread to every player nearby.

[@Jordan3DS]

@@fIorapetals Oh yeah, I think that boss debuff pet thing was during vanilla. I was playing back then, but I was only 7 so I wasn't really paying attention to stuff like that, lol

[@thejackal007]

Does anyone have the background picture of Lub Lub from the thumbnail?

[@tyfp3854]

Nol shit!

[@jurayzscout9432]

"nol" are actually means "zero" in indonesia

[@TitaRussellTrails]

Yeah as much as I appreciate phantasy star online PSO2 is just so much better

[@ilikecurry2345]

You're Mickey Mouse!

[@ls190v2]

Don't cheat online. Faze Jarvis knows this, and he was a BIG Fortnite cheater who was also a member of the Faze Clan.

[@Maaaggii]

NOLifer

[@чеченскиемультикидлядетей]

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