CRIM AND LUA PLAY cEDH WITH PLAY TO WIN!!

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

ANGEL'S GRACE PREVENTS DAMAGE, NOT LIFE LOSS! GRAFDIGGER'S CAGE STOPS POWERBALANCE! OOPS!!

[@sammetcalf6083]

Does crim have the artifacts for mox opal at 22:28?

[@socalacura1338]

Also also, Angel's Grace's "this turn" effect ends during that turn's cleanup step immediately after discarding to hand size (both being turn-based actions), so she dies to the Bloodchief's Ascension triggers during the cleanup step anyways (unless she has anything to do with priority after the triggers go on the stack), plus priority goes around even after she dies during the 'phantom' cleanup step after all the triggers are done resolving. No matter how you slice it, she dies that turn (very sad)

[@Luastardust]

Thanks for having me guys! Always a pleasure ❤

[@DionysusBrew]

And playing Derevi? QUEEENNNN! 👸

[@styfen]

Thanks for everything you do for Commander and cEDH!

[@Luastardust]

“For her not for me tho”😂😂😂 dylannnnn LMAO

[@TensyCL]

Any chance you had a Tishana's Tidebinder in your deck? That's the only other card besides Angel's Grace that came to mind to save you.

[@undeadjebus]

Hey, Lua. I just wanted to let you know so you know the interaction later. The Angels’s Grace only would have made you not lose during your turn. You should have gone to negative life because Angel’s Grace only keeps you at 1 life against damage but Bloodchief Ascension is a Lose Life ability. You were already staring down your One Ring trigger anyways. Either way you played one hell of a game!

[@saienmoodley2104]

Finally Crim is is playing the correct format and living his blue mage dreams

[@hanschristopherson8056]

He brings a cedh mentality to casual

[@worldmedic3187]

I would say crim is more a black mage that loves blue

[@thecrowsnest2872]

Crim’s innocent ignorance to cEDH play patterns and enthusiasm in this video is so cute. Like he’s just giggling and having a lot of fun, something I wish more casual players would experience when trying cEDH

[@thunderwolf188]

Wow what a great counter war!! This was a really fun game to watch, would love to see more of Crim and the goldfish crew on the show!

[@Ragnarok633]

Crim sequencing his counters to fight the win attempt while paying for Rhystic Studies to ensure Dylan has the fewest amount of resources to go again is the player I probably should want to be. Lua not wanting to pay so they can slam their cool commander and do neat stuff is the player I am and enjoy being.

[@Trisaaru]

12:25 The counter war of the century. Played like true blue mages

[@ryantice1186]

We the community should petition that all counter wars now have Phonk playing in the background on the show

[@anthonyotlang1872]

Having triple protection and still getting countered? Only Crim

[@estebanmarco8755]

Crim playing Dimir Faeries with a ton of counterspells in cEDH is the most Crim thing I can think of.

[@SoulKingBrook]

Crim: I counter your counter that countered my counter that counters your counter that countered my counter that countered your counter that countered my original counter

[@laytonjr6601]

ThatMillGuy's short about a mono blue mirror

[@jackpolifka4263]

Great editing. The moment Final Fortune is revealed via Poweralance, the music changes to metal. Awesome!

[@FraggleRockss]

Not sure if you guys will see this. My cat was killed by a reckless driver today. Been super bummed but watching your vids has been a real great distraction. Your energy and personality has helped me heal a little. God bless.

[@zd-1249]

Sorry to hear that. Saying a prayer for you.

[@Highwang]

13:56 That was not a window, Crim painted one on a wall Looney-toons style

[@Lukeypookey19]

No one: Dylan at 0:31: 😀😏😠😡😄😳😠🙂‍↕️🙄👉👇😁

[@nickowens2344]

Best comment

[@healthylife1499]

Ha ha ha😅

[@hazenwalmsley1174]

Automatically my favorite episode. My favorite cEDH channel with Crim 🤯

[@jonnybirch2268]

Loved watching this game, absolute blast seeing y’all play and I loved the chemistry between everyone! Couple things I noticed, first I think Crem missed a Talion trigger off of OB early on (don’t think that would’ve mattered). Second, Angel’s Grace specifically says “DAMAGE that would reduce life below 1,” but Bloodchief Ascension is life loss, so sadly Lua would have died at the end of her turn. Luckily she didn’t interact with Dylan, so I don’t think it would have ended up mattering, although it definitely could have had things gone differently

[@Luastardust]

RIP TO ME

[@aenubiis]

Ye crim missed talion trigger on orcish

[@PartTimeEuphoRia]

I absolutely love tallion, it's how I first got into cEDH! And it makes SO much sense for crim to play them xD

[@jujushaman]

@5:53 when Dylan and Cam are jamming to the song is great . I was literally just thinking about how the BGM music was on point XD

[@christopherhuffman256]

Love the party break!! Always amazing when you guys post, much love to all the creators here.

[@Enhame_]

17:12 There's still a grafdigger's cage on the battlefield oopsie, Powerbalance shouldn't be able to do anything

[@MrRockguy84]

i was gonna say this

[@profspaghettii2535]

And the sol ring from the monkey

[@sabersaurus7018]

Pretty sure Crim misses at least one Talion trigger as it's cast, should have triggered off bowmaster

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

GOOD CATCH UGH

[@xEddyTheGr8x]

How come Crim, THE Faerie-guy, doesn't have BB-tokens at the ready 24/7?! That can't be right! But the brothers Manning are a good enough alternative, I guess. ... And that counter-war over ThOracle was freaking wild! You love to see it!

[@Highwang]

Man this game was dope af. Crim's vibe really brought some great energy to this game.

[@ericshep1498]

Dylan shouldn’t have been able to cast anything (like the Final Fortune) with Powerbalance because of Crim’s Grafdigger’s cage

[@ericshep1498]

I believe Crim missed a Talion trigger for Dylan’s Orcish Bowmasters and later Lua should have died at the beginning of the next turn (Angels Grace doesn’t prevent all loss of life, just loss of life from damage). It always makes me feel better knowing I’m not the only one to miss triggers and make mistakes plus it’s still a very fun game to watch.

[@UserName-rh4wm]

Lua should have already died by the start of Dylan's Final Fortune turn. Angel's grace protects you specifically from damage, not loss of life.

[@nunyabusiness3957]

The card says "You cannot lose the game this turn, and your life total cannot go below 1"

[@Frubeling]

​@nunyabusiness3957 no, it says DAMAGE that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1

[@laytonjr6601]

She can't lose the game the turn she plays Angel's Grace, but she should lose the game on Dylan's upkeep due to having negative life

[@RyeGuy4821]

I absolutely loved you both appearing in for the background music drop. brilliant editing! (5:30 start) 😂

[@MrGrovak]

That counter stack war over Dylan's Thassa's is INCREDIBLE!

[@japplek]

The drum and bass with headbanging edit at 5:54 gave me a new lease on life.

[@Doug464]

I don't think angel's grace works quite the way it's being explained @ 20:20. Since bloodchief ascension causes loss of life and not damage Lua goes to 0 and doesn't lose until cleanup step where angel's grace wears off right? Sorry if I'm totally wrong I'm just confused and wondering if maybe there's a gap in my rules comprehension

[@RLKC8]

You are correct, she would live at a negative number until Dylan’s turn

[@wackywong]

You're right, Angel's Grace doesn't stop the loss of life.

[@BoredomInc22]

Ok this is such an interesting interaction I have to talk about it. Bloodchiefs is life loss so Lua will go into the negatives and die in dylans upkeep yes, but something more interesting is that the damage effect of angels grace wears off in the first cleanup step, so even if bloodchiefs was damage it would still kill Lua since she discards then the effect wears off and then we put the blood chief triggers on the stack and then there is another cleanup and she would die then (except she can’t lose the game this turn so she dies in Dylan’s upkeep). So angels grace doesn’t do anything here since all the life loss is happening post cleanup. Magic is weird.

[@RLKC8]

@@BoredomInc22 i don't think so. Until end step things disappear during cleanup, but I thought until end of turn things disappear really at the end of the turn

[@BoredomInc22]

until end of turn effects end at the cleanup step after the active player discards to hand size. Then the game checks state based actions and if any triggered abilities need to go on the stack. CR514. The “you can’t lose the game this turn” clause of angels grace is different, however, since it doesn’t explicitly say “until end of turn”. It’s a small difference but here it matters.

[@bwild40]

Yay Crim!!! I always wanted the MTG goldfish team to play Cedh so they are more informed for their podcast!! The better educated the better the opinions lol.

[@roremkujo875]

My favourite mtg creators all together for a long video. Keep up the awesome content play to win ❤

[@FreyyaSM]

that counter war was sexy and dylan writing down cams interaction was hilarious

[@kenlikescarbs]

WOOO! Great guests. Also: Cam and I are part of the Monke Murders Us club. I play Monke? I flip lands. Monke attacks me? Here is my best card. smdh

[@richardpennertz8180]

Dylan: "I really thought triple protection was enough." Narrator: "As it turns out, it was not enough."

[@abaddonc.d.5688]

Nice job dylan. Keep on attempting to win till the end 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼. Shows the true meaning of cedh :)

[@aswd4535]

20:30 angel's grace prevents damage and not loss of life so Lua should have at the end of her turn here for having 0 or less life

[@ChuggaChoo]

I came here to watch crim do crim things and I was not disappointed. Holy cow

[@JTrainAwoken]

Angels grace doesn’t stop bloodchiefs due to it angels grace saying damage dealt. Bloodchiefs loses life so wouldn’t Lua go negative and lose at the end of turn?

[@mrfont12]

This is correct

[@Luastardust]

Luckily it didn’t change anything except an extra card maybe 🫡

[@alsaker13]

No it does cause the blue black land would have came in tapped

[@laytonjr6601]

She can't lose the game this turn, but she loses the game on Dylan's upkeep

[@jaredfitts4667]

What a fun game! Love seeing Crim play some CEDH

[@rowrow_]

Table talk and good vibes are what make y'alls channel one of the goats

[@andrewdavis3291]

Love seeing one of the Goldfish school being able to live their brand on the show. (We still believe in you, Tomer.)

[@pokepersonzach8574]

Dude the editing on this game was fucking awesome! Yall always make watching your games so fun!

[@LostLandsLife]

a fucking always sunny reference? I knew I loved these guys

[@bobbytoth2393]

You could feel the "are you fucking kidding me?" come from the depth of Dylan's soul lmao 😂

[@urdogisonfire]

This might be my favorite game I’ve watched on your channel so far 😂 true epitome of cedh 😂😊

[@MetaLibanez1]

The counter war over the first thoracle was so good lol. GGs!

[@TheBHF]

Do you guys think you will ever make a video showcasing all of your MTG collection and commander decks? I think it would be dope to see all of it! Great videos and keep up the dope work!

[@wad_Mr.J]

Awesome game, watching Crim and Dylan fight it out while Dylan was goin for a win was EPIC... Such a fun stack, just for Cam to pop out with the boseiju 😂. Cam's in his villain era with clutch timing, comin out with the boseiju like our boy Aizen just chillin in his chair f-ing 💩 up... N as always, Lua is the hottest chick in magic 🥰 🔥

[@LousyZoot]

Thats not how angel's grace works. It only prevents damage that would reduce her below 0. Loss of life will bring her down to negative life and whe will die to state based actions being checked once the protection of cant lose this turn wears off.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

YES GOOD CATCH! WE MESSED THAT UP

[@LousyZoot]

​@@PlaytoWinMTG hey its no big deal, was a fun watch anyway!

[@Cepaceous]

Bloodchief Ascension is life loss, which Angel's Grace can't prevent

[@CoreyChaves]

that was a fun game to watch. i really like not seeing dockside, crypt and j.lo. in every game on everyones board. also that counter battle with crim and dylan was amazing lol

[@michaelatbarnett]

What a counter stack with Dylan and Crim. Love to see it 😂

[@Envykhan]

really loving the derevi gameplay! nice to see some love for the bird!

[@cesarcarrizales7162]

This is my favorite game to watch this year so far! Great game guys!

[@BatChickenMan]

I just bought some of your awesome sleeves, playmat, and a deck box to boot, what commander(s) should I build to sleeve up and throw in the box???? Love the channel guys been a fan for years and will be a fan for years to come.

[@kellyperry5009]

Super fun game, crim with the endless interaction 👏

[@facemop134]

26:00 i think one of the 4 faeries crim attacked with was summoning sick, not that it would have mattered but still

[@socalacura1338]

Not only that, but even though it was ages ago, I believe Cam still should've had protection from everything (assuming he didn't miss the trigger)

[@aaronkrevans7112]

In addition to what others have mentioned about angels grace preventing damage not loss of life, I believe that since angels grace is an until end of turn affect, and the bloodchiefs ascension wouldn’t trigger till the cleanup step after end of turn affects are cleared, either way it wouldn’t have saved her(other than preventing her from losing before crims upkeep)

[@joshuahabiger691]

Gotta love the Knocked Loose vinyl in Crim's backdrop. A man of good taste, that's for sure.

[@AlzahraniSammy]

Great game and great guests! I’ve been waiting to see Crim here!

[@matchiu92]

9.2k more to go till the 100k subs play button let's go!!!

[@GodammitNappa]

So surprised crim didn't t1 talion for the gassssss Also Luas "huehue" laugh and energy. These games must have been an absolute blast

[@scorchpeg6401]

Every time i watch intro the more i think Dylan is joey from friends :D

[@healthylife1499]

Ha ha... I see it

[@Psytrin]

Dropping a like just for that stack with Crim vs Dylan!

[@randomninja9898]

i have been waiting for this like crack ... holy dam ... love your content guys !!

[@Karste1n]

Insane game, that powerbalance was hilarious

[@Karste1n]

Crim is such a blue mage I love it

[@P3rvenc]

At 20:30 angels grace reads "damage that would reduce your life total to less than 1 reduces it to 1 instead." bloodchief is not damage, she would be at like -20, not die on her turn because of angels, but she would die at the next turns upkeep.

[@bobbysimon1078]

This was an awesome game, classic blue stack war!

[@RaijQuit]

Lua would go to negative life from bloodchief ascension because it's loss of life, not damage. As soon as grace wears off during cleanup she would just die anyway

[@jakeziegler-h9x]

love the Cedh gameplay as always. keep doing what yall do

[@Naozymandias]

looking at the thras tymna list Meme Betrayal looks like a slam dunk in that especially comboing with culling ritual, but also as a generally really strong card

[@danilohernandez8989]

Crim that was the sexiest use of the stack I have ever seen, we need to see him more on cEDH

[@boredindividual]

So awesome to finally have crim on! Dudes a legend

[@AnarchoLoserist]

Appreciate seeing you guys going as hard to the kusic as i don8j yhis one haha

[@stevenreidy116]

Save it on your calendars kids. This was the game. Dylan went bananas.🎉

[@Lazergician]

5:50 extremely based drum and base interlude

[@changminsong]

Crim. That’s the reason. ❤

[@thomasvconti]

9:19 Crim forgot a Talion trigger when Dylan cast Bowmasters

[@irfannoor9288]

Kinda wondering. I haven't seen any sensei's divining top for quite a while, what happend? (yea, its pop up in my head once dylan cast power balance)

[@tristanshannon4128]

"while we're still partying" was good lol

[@Uri6060]

What a goated group of people!

[@ljlk8583]

24:40 correct me if I'm wrong, but if Dylan had the mana here, could he have played thoracle instead of chain of vapour instead, then respond to the boseiju with demonic consultation to win?

[@RabbitOvHell1990]

Crim just beeing Crim :D love me some nervewracking counter wars

[@johngraham6770]

People think of t3feri as a combo piece with kitten too much. Just the fact that it's a silence + bounce spell stapled together is nuts

[@adamcajkler2477]

What an amazing game! So many twists and turns

[@PrimeShifter]

That effect with your faces reminds me of a cartoon called heavy metal. I don’t know why it just does.

[@purplegrapedrankk]

17:00 Grafdiggers is in play

[@parkernoyce4295]

The music at 17:00 is awesome

[@WiLDRAGE777]

I see Crim, I watch. Edit: All hail Crim, the Counterspell King.

[@jormungardwe]

Crim forgot to draw a card from the cast of orcish bowmaster

[@zd-1249]

INSANE GAME. Kinda glad yall forgot about the cage cause then we wouldn’t have seen Dylan suffer through that FF turn LOL GG GUYS

[@threscik]

This is exactly what I expect from Crim playing CEDH lol

[@Googleflax]

It didn't matter at all, but I'm pretty sure Cam still had protection from everything after Dylan died to his Final Fortune.

[@subarubrent]

What petition can we start to have Dylan's monkey sounds end every episode now??

[@hsMaskman]

this is quite literally my dream pod

[@ZulHarry-05]

Crim : Woooooo I'm gonna make a name for myself here 🤣

[@maggiek8616]

I have an interesting hypothetical question. Dylan do you think it would be appropriate to bounce one of Lua's permanents, knowing then it would likely get copied targeting the One Ring so Lua wouldn't be dead on upkeep and then probably being used on another problem permanent of Lua's choice? Like would that have increased your own chance of winning, or would you feel that is more a king making move and think it's better not to

[@Kirakonaa]

9:17 isn't Talion on 2? Crim should draw a card there?

[@Doormau5719]

"What am I going to do? Stop doing things?" 😂😂😂

[@jeffreysmall1087]

Cam did not have to interact he just road Crims coattails to the win. God if that tallion was on one it would have been nuts

[@Zarchonum]

Talion: the "win the game or draw 25?" meme