Crimewatch UK - January 1992

Thursday 23rd January 1992, 9:30pm, BBC1:
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[@thefirmband]

Poor John was obviously suffering badly with depression. In this day and age we can see that but back then highly unlikely.

[@Scott1433]

Poor old Michael Fish, whenever you see him you can't help but think of 1987. I quite like Sue Cook's hair in this episode, but I'm not sure about her clothes, my Mum had curtains similar to that in the early 90s

[@markshaw270]

Haha there's the fish comment I was looking for 😅

[@davidallen3050]

I THOUGHT THAT TOP WAS A CARPET BAG !

[@rs-qt1qg]

@@markshaw270 I said it first

[@AACE73]

Yeah don't panic 🙄 John Kettley is a weatherman a weatherman a weatherman John Kettley is a weatherman and so is Michael Fish

[@salfordcabby]

Only in the 1990s could Freddy mercury show up in a petrol filling station in Lancaster dressed to preform "Barcelona" 👌🙈

[@petermurphy6780]

Bolton on sands It was the first time we met Bolton on sands

[@Macho_Fantastico]

Whenever I see Sue Cook I'm always reminded of Alan Partridge.

[@shinyphil87]

"Sue Cook's pulled out". 😁

[@dean7652]

@@shinyphil87 Michael”do you want me to take her out” Alan”oh god no”😂

[@zeddeka]

"Sue, take the fag out of your mouth. I can't tell what you're saying."

[@xlr82u]

"Yeah, Sue take the fag out of your mouth I can't tell what you're saying"

[@rs-qt1qg]

47p for petrol and 43p for diesel! Those were the days!!

[@fraser_mr2009]

back then a couple of quid got you two big bags of messages.

[@deluxewaterless7229]

Tell me about it

[@craigix]

You know how inflation works right? That's about £1.20/litre in today's money, it's about the same.

[@rs-qt1qg]

@@craigix yes I do know how inflation works and it would be closer to a quid rather than £1.20, but fuel isn't even £1.20/L today it's more than that

[@buy.to.let.britain]

£188 for an ounce of gold - now £2300

[@gower23]

Cable ties must have been known as "white plastic things" in 1992.

[@rampantram1]

a thick copper whos never done any manual work in his life that didnt know the correct name for them lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@huthwaiteman]

Absolutely loving these uploads after stumbling across them! Essential viewing way back when.

[@ajs41]

Thanks huthwaiteman. I wish I had even more to upload.

[@Paul8342]

Sue’s jacket reminds me of the patterned sofa my parents had in 1992 haha!

[@rutter1ify]

😂👌

[@noellegunning3301]

Yes! Early 1990's style

[@NancyDrewe]

It looks like a Laura Ashley bedspread. :teehee:

[@eadweard.]

I thought it looked a) glorious but also b) like curtains.

[@marklane2583]

Ditto!

[@garymarshall3212]

this is gold, thank you andy. you cant get any better than this top class

[@CatLowe50]

Nice one! I'll be watching in the morning after nightshift 😊

[@ryanohara476]

Cheers Andy for filling in the gaps for RedCard74! 😁

[@ajs41]

Thanks, I think I might have the Update for this month, just checking.

[@rtd8860]

Andy JS thanks for the upload how do u have these recordings it’s incredible that after this long u still have the original recordings

[@ajs41]

@@rtd8860 1992 seems like five minutes ago to me, but I have a funny sense of time I think! I'd just started at secondary school so I suppose you have vivid memories of those times.

[@rtd8860]

Andy JS I was 4yrs old in 1992 i only started watching crimewatch in 1997/98 I had a few episodes on tape but lost them years ago. U and redcard are legends with all the uploads of the old episodes

[@ryanohara476]

@@rtd8860 I wasn't even one year old when this episode was transmitted. I started watching Crimewatch UK around 2000.

[@HouseOfMitchell]

"i gotta be somewhere tonight" how about jail sicko. Also the John case is sad, depression is the worst. Finally Sue looking like an 80's shower curtain in this ep

[@interstat2222]

Evening all... CWers are spoiled these days. I love the original BBC One parts of other shows stuck on with these. Great upload quality too.

[@ajs41]

Thanks Interstat. I've actually cut a bit off the beginning and end of this show which hasn't been processed yet by KZbin. Maybe I should have left those on.

[@RamsFanScott45]

20:12 We've finally found Lord Lucan

[@rutter1ify]

😂👍

[@AACE73]

OMG 😅

[@Scott1433]

Driven past that petrol station in the first reconstruction many times, that poor lady really did think quickly when she drove into that petrol station, that decision could well have saved her life

[@trishg151]

@@MsVanorak 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲 WTF?

[@JesusChristisfake]

MsVanorak have you told the police?

[@davidbatthews3811]

Even if it went to court they would not have revealed “Sarah”’s real name! 🤔

[@Muttey2024]

Sue Cook looks a right sort in this episode! - what a good looking, intelligent lady she was! 😊

[@ajs41]

I couldn't agree more.

[@michaellowery1559]

Class, that was the hair cut to have in 1992 very smart dress too.

[@Muttey2024]

Michael Lowery I’d of drank her bath water 😂😂👍

[@pauloliver1842]

muttley, better than jacqui hames suited and booted , me thinks not...............

[@noellegunning3301]

She is very well spoken

[@lyndaburn6428]

Thank you . Just before bed. Love these episodes

[@markczarny7088]

Most of the crimes where caused by Irish travellers

[@NancyDrewe]

A tattoo of “Sue” on his arm. Oh my! Maybe he was a Crime Watcher before his life of crime. :)

[@markczarny7088]

Was gonna have it on his penix but said "Too many letters"😅

[@ajs41]

Useless fact: the captain of the England cricket team at the time was Graham Gooch.

[@reevespeterson]

Andy JS Mate, what a perfect time reference. You put me right into that time period perfectly. I was 12 but yes i know what u mean when you say it feels less far away than that.

[@ajs41]

@@reevespeterson I was obsessed with cricket for a time in the early 1990s. It coincided with England doing very badly, although Gooch himself was scoring a lot of runs like 333 against India in 1990.

[@Hi-kq1vi]

About to nearly lead England to World Cup glory down under-got edged out by Pakistan in the final. Also this month Ric Flair turned in a superman performance to win the Royal Rumble from number 3 & become WWF champion. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJDKhZVjotiNp6s

[@ianbousfield5007]

I met alan lamb once when i was a lad

[@Hi-kq1vi]

@@ajs41 You can call the colleagues of Graham Gooch at the incident room-Robin Smith, Chris Lewis. Phil DeFreitas, Richard Illingworth, Gladstone Small, Dermot Reeve, Alec Stewart & Graeme Hick are all waiting for your call.

[@tezdryden9009]

great stuff, thank you. i miss the 1990s

[@ajs41]

The 1990s was arguably modern life before things started to go a bit wrong.

[@tezdryden9009]

@@ajs41 yeah things seemed easier back then

[@ajs41]

@@tezdryden9009 I remember it as a mostly optimistic time, particularly the mid-90s around 1993, 1994. But that could be just me and my family.

[@tezdryden9009]

@@ajs41 yeah that's true, everyone these days just seem fed up, plus all social media which isn't always a good thing

[@mikh84]

When I was between 9-11 in the mid 90s it seemed to be an optimistic period & wish I'd embraced the time a lot more than I did. Apart from the celeb/reality Tv we have programmes that seem to glorify being unemployed.

[@chasey2327]

didnt realise england opener graham gooch also moonlighted as a chief inspector!

[@RogerJJSmith]

Graham Gooch and Lord's Cricket Ground featuring in the same episode!

[@johncook496]

Loving the trailer for Moon and Son - that’s a blast from the past!

[@meskbren]

Thanks for posting Andy! The John Threlfall case was strange - the man and women in the garage were an odd couple. There doesn't seem to be anything online about this case - was it ever solved?

[@olly30]

Im same age and from that area and he ended up he had killed himself. Not quite sure why or where the strangulkation and beating came into it. But all strange with that activity

[@dissonantdreams]

There’s a short update in the April ‘92 episode (recently uploaded by redcard74) - apparently it was indeed a suicide, not murder, but not much explanation was given as to how/why they reached that conclusion.

[@meskbren]

@@dissonantdreams thanks. Yes I did see that as well. It is difficult to see why two such different conclusions were right. The odd couple from the garage were just that - an odd couple.

[@MsVanorak]

having recently scanned and uploaded all my photo snaps, i think i have a picture with him on it in the lake district in 1988. all going on in the background of my landscape composition, weird, posed picture, magik, cult, goth, satanism, not sure and of course not sure if he was there of his own free will.

[@HouseOfMitchell]

@@meskbren they probably was up to something else dodgy

[@Muttey2024]

Common theme is that many of these crooks like a bet in the bookies!

[@rs-vp7re]

Gambling debts force them into a life of crime

[@Peter-ix1ym]

Or maybe from a working class background and at the time greyhounds and horse racing were very popular.

[@BossySwan]

Bonus Mick Fish at the beginning

[@ajs41]

On his way to a cocktail party by the look of it.

[@spike197047]

Thanks Andy.

[@TheOne-fe8wk]

You mean zip ties? 29:35

[@xlr82u]

Did they ever solve the John Threlfall case? Seems very strange and can't find much info online.

[@rs-qt1qg]

0:01 memories of “a lady said there’s gonna be a hurricane, don’t worry there isn’t” 2c and foggy! Brutal winter lol

[@ryanohara476]

Hi Andy or do you prefer Andrew now? Long time no speak! I hope you are well looks like another Crimewatch UK archivist has turned up Damien Mocata he appears to have obtained alot of tapes of various other TV shows he has some Crimewatch uk from 1998 and some pending from 2003. Hopefully he has more. Just to let you know for your playlist and for you to watch!

[@ajs41]

Hi Ryan, nice to hear from you. I don't mind which name you use for me. Thanks for the info about Damien Mocata, I'll update my playlist. I hope RedCard turns up again. Have you heard from him recently? Thanks, Andy

[@ryanohara476]

@@ajs41 Hi Andy glad you are well yes daily since you and redcard uploaded the enter archive of CW UK main shows from June 1984- December 1991 and sporadic ones 1992-onwards I always search here daily for new uploads hence why you heard from me now. Unfortunately no I haven't spoken with Redcard for a while now. It good to see that you still upload new TV gems from your amazing archive aswell! Well all that I have see here since apart from the August 1998 upload are incomplete episodes or clips etc so Let's hope this decade various other people come up with missing pieces from their off-air recordings and complete the Crimewatch UK BBC TV archive 1984-present, all regular shows files, extra solved still unsolved road show etc. These last few years with the pandemic have been rotten to everyone in many ways! It's a pitty as for now the only you can view the rest from BFI TV archive via with a subscription all the remaining missing episodes from February 1992 onwards. As since 1990 they've kept copies of all TV broadcasts.

[@dickiegreenleaf750]

Is it just me or do the presenters look more aged starting with the 1992 shows.

[@ajs41]

They do a bit.

[@scottspeed3431]

Did they solve Sarah's case with the car crashing into petrol station?

[@rs-vp7re]

Yeah there was a crimewatch file made about it too called scarred. That has also been uploaded

[@MrMulrine83]

It's the crimewatch file Sorry, Sarah. The man responsible is Tony Snow

[@seawork3449]

24:05 Inspector Poirot in Lancashire.

[@ColinFlowers]

Seriously spoiled now with all these CW uploads.

[@ajs41]

Personally I think the BBC should have made them all available for a small fee a number of years ago. Since we all pay for the licence fee, the BBC archive ought to be available for everyone to watch. Now, with KZbin, they probably wouldn't be able to charge anything.

[@rs-qt1qg]

Andy JS they couldn’t make them available for legal reasons.

[@ajs41]

@@rs-qt1qg That doesn't reassure me very much, given that I've uploaded them!

[@paulvaughan3699]

Regarding the opening scene, did Michael Fish ever get done for the fraud in 1987?

[@lw3646]

Murdered for £20, what is wrong with some people?

[@zeddeka]

Drugs, usually

[@ianbousfield5007]

Will the February episode be stephanie slaters kidnap ?

[@ajs41]

I think it was but no-one seems to have it. I've got a VHS video from that month featuring the Brit Awards 1992 but I don't think it has Crimewatch on it. I'll have to double-check.

[@fintytin5771]

Cheers man !!!

[@gujh03]

It's not just Crimewatch UK but the whole of BBC has gone downhill

[@Jimwoodward1212]

Andy Taylor is your announcer

[@robertnunn265]

Evening all. Cheers Andy!

[@ajs41]

Evening Robert.

[@NebulaBull]

Sue's hair is the same in this January 1992 episode as it was in January of 1991.

[@ianbousfield1962]

The infamous February 1992

[@ianbousfield1962]

February 1992 is now on KZbin Crimewatchers

[@fraser_mr2009]

Remember shell suits were popular back then... 8:06 He probably would have murdered her had she not done that.

[@twinkle3026]

Soooo sad about poor John. The only thing i can think of, is, maybe he gave a friend a bit of weed and the friend's parents, wanted revenge??? We all do daft things when we're young, so whatever happened, it's still very sad indeed. Apparently, this murder has never been resolved???

[@MsVanorak]

other comment threads say it was suicide

[@nathaniliescutotherescue6047]

It was a suicide they say his death his not suspicious in a later episode

[@davechurchill8711]

Is that a old savacentre at 3:01 or is it just the car park sue cook is describing the logo looks like a Sainsbury's SC.

[@06hurdwp]

was the murder of david boss ever solved? cant find anything online

[@richardsmith8790]

The amount of rape cases in these old CW episodes is shocking

[@gujh03]

I reckon that lady at the petrol station got the wrong date for those strangers asking for Coniston Road.

[@BlytheWorld1972]

thanks .

[@lukewilly]

18:42 everyone had that clock

[@ryandaly1146]

Please upload some new episodes tonight, i am having very bad withdrawals, I can't wait to watch Feb and March and April 1992, I've already watched may and june of 1992. Thanking you.

[@spike197047]

Maybe it's redcard's turn this evening

[@ajs41]

@@spike197047 I haven't been able to find February 1992 so far, which is disappointing. I'll search for other months in 1992.

[@zolder79]

@@ajs41 I've got Feb 1992, sure of it.

[@tjc89]

Tar Andy. There really should be a crimewatch drinking game for every time there is a 'have a go hero' in a robbery, examples of horrendously crap acting or unrealistic scenes (robbbers having nice conversations with their victims about the weather) and anything else people can think of

[@ajs41]

Have you watched it already? It's only been on for 2 minutes! Only joking.

[@tjc89]

No but all episodes usually have their commonalities e.g. real people playing parts (I'm not nicking this from Peter Kay) like how mad is that? If you see that in a reconstruction down a whisky chaser. Have a go hero down a full pint.

[@futureisgosub]

Or any time David Hatcher says the word "moustache", his pronunciation of that word is great

[@tjc89]

hahahahahahaahha thats so true! I wonder what David and Jackie are up to these days and why Sue Cook isn't on TV

[@Hi-kq1vi]

It was great that one of the have a go heroes who smashed the window of the getaway vehicle during that raid led to the gang being captured when the repair guy phoned in, in I think the November or December 1991 show when they were doing updates.

[@topbanana4128]

Can anybody tell me, if the Crimewatch episode Febuary 1992 is available anywhere? I can't find it anywhere, Thanks in advance 😊

[@ajs41]

Hi Top Banana, unfortunately it's missing at the moment. Maybe someone has it on video somewhere.

[@topbanana4128]

@@ajs41 Thanks very much for the reply Andrew

[@zanecollison9142]

Man running from garage looks like Craig Rolf from the Essex boys.. said Brentwood & Basildon didn’t it as well

[@paulpaxton8402]

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE AN UPLOAD PLEASE SEEN ALL YOUR ESPIODES NOW PLEASE

[@ajs41]

I'm working on it.

[@soulbrother61]

Did the John Threlfall murder get solved ?

[@eddiemcgarvey9365]

I was wondering too.Nothing found on google.

[@johncook496]

Possibly. I remember there being a case in the early 90s where it was a murder enquiry but new evidence led to the police discovering it had been suicide. I’m wondering if this was that case (it’s quite similar, Young artistic loner killed at home alone), though not entirely sure as the reconstruction says he was beaten and strangled.

[@soulbrother61]

@@johncook496 He was battered and strangled

[@johncook496]

soulbrother61 yep, as I said in my comment that makes me doubt it was this case.

[@Hi-kq1vi]

@@eddiemcgarvey9365 Really odd, assuming it was solved & the people have done their time & got removed from Goggle by request. The two who went into the service station look like something out of a Poirot episode.

[@meggriffin94]

27:47 - Scary!!

[@Davidnumber23]

was that Mr Fish's last gig too ? hoho

[@ajs41]

I don't think so, I think he was doing the weather for a fair number of years after this.

[@rs-qt1qg]

@@ajs41 yeah he retired in 2004.

[@andrewsmith2757]

There's nothing at all about the murder of John Threlfall on the internet, which is strange.

[@ajs41]

Interesting. I started using the internet in 1994 so its not as if 1992 was the dark ages. Im surprised there is nothing about this case available.

[@andrewsmith2757]

@@ajs41 - It turned out not to be a murder but an accident. This was announced an episode or two later. This would explain what I said.

[@ajs41]

@@andrewsmith2757 Thanks for the information.

[@dissonantdreams]

Sadly it was actually suicide (there’s an update saying so in a later episode)

[@treasurehunteruk9718]

If he killed himself, how did they think he was strangled and beaten up? I don't think they are telling the whole story here. How did he kill himself, if it looked like he was strangled?

[@crossy7225]

If i was to mark sue out of two id definitely give her one

[@bwabymafia]

Lol wth. She is 10 out of 10

[@quagmirewasere]

That phone number used for years I remeber it on a kids show aswell 081 811

[@ajs41]

It was used for Saturday Superstore I think.

[@rs-qt1qg]

Andy JS live and kicking

[@trishg151]

81 81 🤣

[@dissonantdreams]

Yeah, it was Live & Kicking. I still remember the jingle! 😆

[@misplacedkiwi9498]

@@dissonantdreams me too

[@barrysmith1651]

Where is highagan

[@jmummysweetpea3671]

Wow - how fit is Jacqui in her uniform? Saaauuucccyyyy

[@HouseOfMitchell]

nah standard af

[@saxongreen78]

The glue sniffing rapist with long hair parted in the middle...hope he went to prison and got _turned out!_

[@michaelpout2208]

nice one Andy js

[@johnmarshall2994]

Those e fits

[@HdHd-hp6qz]

Weatherman Fish 😆

[@edwardburnsenhicks7772]

Love armed robberies I had to retire.

[@AACE73]

In a cell? 😉

[@kirstm.2215]

Woohoo 1st comment

[@notonyournelly5475]

you deserve a pineapple or equally nice gift

[@carina914]

30.00 blimey

[@ravenrisby]

Ppl are so programmed

[@eadweard.]

Can you be more specific?

[@RamsFanScott45]

19:26 Looks more like a man than a woman. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Ashs-mini-vlogs]

Erm wats a glue sniffer like glue has weird smell why would you sniff it

[@ajs41]

It's addictive once you start sniffing it.

[@buy.to.let.britain]

clungewatch,