Open Bar

[@petrowegynyolc7108]

Lance's screen overlaps Mauler's drawing in the background perfectly, looks like he's constantly drunk-ranting to SnarkyJay who just doesn't care.

[@morganseppy5180]

Helps that he has the black shirt

[@AJ-HawksToxicFinger]

omg, once you see it you can't unsee it..

[@1milliondogs]

Cannot unsee!

[@117MasterSpartan]

I don’t get it. Lance is moving in the right, mauler is at the top. I don’t get it

[@scottag3597]

Not Mauler's screen. It's the background image that's being talked about. If you look beneath Lance's screen, you see the background image of Mauler only visible from the neck down. It is blending with Lance.

[@paulmassey4261]

One of the huge problem's with ROP is that it corporealises (is that even a word??) EVERYTHING. They simply don't understand the quasi-spiritual realm behind Tolkien's work; the magic is subtle, the power of the strong character's is often in their sheer willpower, etc. Sauron's blood in the rings? It's not a physical property that is infused into the rings! It's his will to dominate. But then, if they are so damned imbecilic that they think trebuchet's can bombard a mountain and dam a river, then all bets are off. The show is sewage.

[@Hoolawesome]

When he mentions about how Peter Jackson was able to make a better battle sequence with a fraction of the budget reminds me of Obidiah Stane in Iron Man when he says “Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave, with a box of scraps”

[@PatstarDeluxe]

As soon as he said that, that whole exchange went through my head! Haha

[@TheREALSimagination]

@@PatstarDeluxe Same.

[@TheREALSimagination]

Same.

[@garadak7.]

Thats cringe AF op

[@gooshbacca]

Penguin wanting to watch the sunrise...whether intended or not was the best Batman reference. Relieved to make it through the night, perfect!

[@JuT11]

The showrunner did an interview (I think w/ rottentomatoes) where she said every easter egg and reference in the show was very much intentional and they had a lot of fun adding stuff like that everywhere

[@doublet147]

Did you know that the guest Lance on this show is actually Disparu from the future? He went back in time (terminator-style) to aid his younger self in preventing the fall of the entertainment industry.

[@ronaldhanson2710]

He’s going to need to be very, very quick lol

[@paulware4701]

2:11:45 This sounds like something I picked up reading a critique of Robert Heinlein's attitude to the armed forces. Heinlein was a navy man and the navy emphasises all that's great about patriotism. The critic had been an infantryman in Vietnam and all he'd ever heard was "go out and kill the enemy and when it's all over go home and be shit on by your neighbours for being a warmonger". Heinlein actually addressed this in Glory Road where he says you can't tell a generation of young people that patriotism is crap and then expect them to get excited when they get a letter from the draft board telling them their country needs them.

[@JJAmes-mb4du]

'Teapot of the ruptured ferret', possible best film of 2025.

[@SirSpuddington]

I think it's hilarious that in the overhead establishing shots of the Eregion city (Eregion is a region in the proper canon, not a specific city, but whatever) that we got in RoP season 1, the city has no walls or fortifications whatsoever. It's just a riverbank with several little landings that led into the city. But then, mere weeks later in the show's messed-up timeline, the city suddenly has a huge wall of towers and parapets that presents an obstacle for the orc army for plot reasons. But it also has a "thinnest part," somehow? What kind of designer builds a defensive wall that has randomly uneven thickness? This is a comparatively small issue on the scale of cosmological all-encompassing lore-mutilating garbage that consumes the rest of the show, but it's still worth pointing out for how directly it's involved in the plot for episode 7.

[@Usdrothek]

The City is Ost-in-Edhil

[@paulwillard9687]

Sir Christopher Lee , held the world record for eldest person to release heavy metal albums.

[@JiggEllisoh]

I’d love to see “Hunger Games - The Teapot and the Ruptured Ferret” 😂😂

[@Clarel991]

That was hilarious 😂

[@bad-people6510]

Riddler's name isn't Edawrd NIgma. That's an alias. His name is Edward Nashton, HE changed it to Nigma to fit with his theme. First panel he's in in DC #140 he's bragging about the name Edward Nigma as if it's clever.

[@kingjerrodthelion]

🦁. @bad-people, thank you! Really get sick of MauLer saying it's Nygma, it's nearly always been Nashton, & it definitely wasn't changed in the movie, the comics did the name change long before most of us were born, really get sick of non- fans explaining comic lore. Also, what does MauLer mean that villains such as Mr. Freeze & Poison Ivy are goofy (almost as tho Batman & Robin is his only frame of reference for them, except he has played the Ist II Arkham games, so did he think they were goofy in those games?). Goofy, compared to what exactly, to The Batman, mean suppose so, considering how insanely grounded & grungey that universe is, but personally wouldn't describe those villains in particular as goofy, if MauLer wants goofy Batman villains, would suggest Polka-Dot Man (tho he at least managed to be taken a bit more seriously lately) Kite-Man or Zebra-Man. Not Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy or Bane.

[@bad-people6510]

@@kingjerrodthelion Mauler likes Polka-Dot Man. Because he likes that terrible Suicide Squad movie that changed everything about him.

[@Count.Saruman]

The only way ROP e8 ends happily is if the Valar realise something's up with Middle-earth and somehow manage to summon Bayle the Dread to burn the continent.

[@sirchadiusmaximusiii]

Bro wtf was up with that superchat talking about his family self deleting and how he had been talking to a 14 yr old and now dates her at 19. Wrong place and seek help. I’d block that guy before I appeared in his manifesto.

[@NHAlexNH]

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that sounded very strange

[@ezlmonqzy9650]

wtf , he someone said that damn

[@meanwhileonhastings...]

Yeah, feel for the guy, but there's a time and a place. A pod cast with everyone saying this show sucks is not the right place for something that should be considered a private matter. Some people share too much when it comes to the internet. Again, I hope that person gets help but still...

[@mattg5791]

Yeah, definitely not the place to do that. Lots of people 'let it all out' in superchats, and it's hard to listen to.

[@garadak7.]

Its fake you know

[@sanjuro6522]

Hollywood has several movies (Grease, Terminator 2, Drive, etc.) where the LA river dries up and people drive along the constructed concrete bottom. Maybe the writers think that’s what all rivers are like. Hollywood seems to think the whole world is, always has been, and always will be an expansion of modern day LA. 7:35

[@crumblyburgers]

Writers rooms make sense for more long form tv. Law and order. Medical shows. Shows that have some connecting threads and storylines, but it's mostly focused on what is happening that episode. You have more episodes a season. But for a 6-8 episode, intentional story, they just bring in bloat and indecision.

[@bluecollarloser6654]

Loved seeing Lance on and everything he added about Rings of Power and Penguin. When panelists watch everything the stream is about lol. He got some more well deserved subscribers from this and just happy to see him doing better.

[@J.Hermansson]

Just a little correction Mauler, Celebrimbor was not the greatest smith of all time, that was Fëanor. Celebrimbor was the second best so your point still stands.

[@Maladjester]

Did Fëanor know how to make alloys though?

[@J.Hermansson]

@@Maladjester 😆

[@sarcatstix]

Great to see Lance again his channel is great and woefully undersubscribed- hugely knowledgeable from an industry perspective

[@121slayer]

Snarky Jay during the conversation of Rings of Power is like a girlfriend listening to her boyfriend talk passionately and being a nerd with his friends.

[@thee_morpheus]

Only she is more insufferable

[@aced4fun]

I don't think the Open Bar intro is ever gonna get old

[@theeddytor3490]

19:20 the fact that Jay knows jason todd's origin story, has made my respect for her go even more. because not everyone remembers this unless you have seen animated series and the original comic.

[@kingjerrodthelion]

🦁. @theeddytor. My introduction to it was the Batman: Under the Red Hood movie, than read the original comic.

[@daviru02]

Yeah that's not how mountains work.😊

[@jonbaxter2254]

Mountains are made from crumbly cheese

[@DRaven-of2lv]

Penguin was damn good. First show that kept me engaged the whole time and left me wanting more

[@schwartzy65]

First show ever?!

[@joostengelsman4755]

Same the panel (except for drinker) should stop forcing expectations on it. So far, it's good and engaging.

[@kingjerrodthelion]

​🦁. ​@@joostengelsman4755Guess I'm the only guy that wasn't the biggest fan of it, & it's not because Batman isn't in it either. 🖐️😐🖐️

[@Zoddlander]

I agree with Disparu! Why use the IP in this way, if you only use penguin? I did like the show, however! it felt like a gangster show, but I keep asking "where is batman?" I feel like they nailed the feel of the crime world of Batman! But I still want Batman hiding in the shadows, to scare the criminals! It was a good show!

[@dragonknightleader1]

It could also have been a story about Rupert Thorne, but he's not recognizable as a Batman villain, so gotta go with Cobblepot.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

​@@dragonknightleader1If Rupert Thorne had been played by Ferrell then he would be the star

[@nichi8404]

disparu has watched batwoman and other worse trash

[@vanillabatcave5677]

Batman taking a backseat can work if it's done similar to Joker by Brian Azarello where Batman isn't present for most of the story but Gotham is still shaped by him and his action, almost giving a mystical aura, not present physically but symbolically.

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

Snarky is great and all... But she gotta do her homework

[@juniorkareem2739]

I mean she did state she doesn’t like high fantasy and it’s rings of power so I can’t blame her

[@TheEducator89]

Yeah, I got DEI hire vibes this episode. But I'm subbed to her channel, she was just not needed here.

[@Ravenscroft82]

It's pretty common for guests to not have seen every single show discussed. This isn't anything new, and the the comments she DID add about the other stuff were very good. Really not an issue for me.

[@atomicdancer]

"The Penguin" book report ( *A+* ) Good work, Snarky! "Agatha All Along" book report ( *B-* ) Amusing insights but needs more focus "Rings of Power" book report ( *F* ) Not completed. See me after class, Snarky.

[@rogerborg]

@@TheEducator89 Ditto, she can script and perform a good video, but isn't so snappy live. Both things can be true.

[@leannerose6181]

They bulldozed a basement underneath my expectations of Agatha😅

[@J.Hermansson]

Regarding "I wanna be the best, and I want it NOW!" You can see that everywhere even in the gamer community. I have played ESO for 10 years It took me a long time to be where I am, I run one of the largest guild on the EU server and every time a new person comes on, they want help to lvl up as fast as possible, get the best gear made for them so they can get to the end content as fast as possible, and therefore a lot of them tire quick and quit the game. They miss the whole struggle to get better that way, to grow with your character, to explore the world and the stories. They are not invested in their character at all & that's why they tire of the game so quick.

[@iohannesfactotum]

Wheel of Time was my favorite doorstop series. Especially when Brandon Sanderson took over. They did my boy Mat dirty

[@ian-flanagan]

I could maybe buy that Elves could stop a charge, but they’ve constantly portrayed them as basically normal humans

[@barnbwt]

Sounds like they're setting up Penguin to gradually become more unhinged/psychotic in order to beat the crazy lady; make his ultimate victory over her a pyrrhic one, in that it requires action so over-the-top it attracts the attention of Batman, and there's no going back except to double down into supervillian-hood

[@angrybatman1019]

I'm guessing Sofia will off his mom, and Penguin will sacrifice Vic to take down Sofia. In the end, he gets the power he wants, but has to destroy everything he had in order to get it. He went from a gangster trying to get on top to a ruthless mob boss who will do whatever is necessary to retain that power

[@erichtomanek4739]

The Ghost of Sushi: Millions of ghost Tuna (mainly Blue and Yellow fin) mobbing Japan and fishing fleets; "No sushi for you!"

[@HahaDamn]

The funniest thing is in all the establishing shots or eregion you can see there are two rivers you would need to dam, and there is no city wall

[@HahaDamn]

Yeah also, the geography makes no sense, he says look to the North for the Dwarves, when Khazad Dum is to the east of the city, like right behind them. It also doesn’t make sense how Elrond gets in between the orc forces and the city, when they are Comin from the north west, if Adar is besieging the city, Elrond would be hitting them in the rear.

[@theREALmistafu]

I'm not sure what trailer disparu has seen but the one in my language makes it pretty clear that "the substance" is not a chickflick

[@J.Hermansson]

Regarding The substance. If Lance says it's like a Cronenberg movie, I'm gonna watch it.

[@VaNDaIUKR]

2:17:05 - 2:17:06 shipping is incredibly based(c) Disparu

[@rworded]

What would be really cool in the Penguin is that if they never show him and that they allude to his presence not only via dialogue but with cool imagery like shadow effects and showing the fear on criminals faces, stuff like that. It would be a cool way to show that Batman is out there without explicitly showing him.

[@mattmartin6493]

Penguin stumbling across Victor is a reference to the way Jason Todd was found in the comics

[@MrKinghuman]

I started watching the third episode of Agatha and the path takes them in a fancy home and they drink wine. Fuck me. I was embarrassed for them and myself. Hollywood is an empty vacuum of creativity

[@vongeneralissimo8635]

"Defend the city!" - huzzah for useless and counterproductive orders.

[@TheMikenificent]

I have been looking forward to this. 🍻

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

33:33 ~ the word "ineloquent" would be a tad more snazzy and elegant here, Snarky, but "uneloquent" works just nearly well.

[@Zac_Frost]

So... what's the point of your comment?

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

@@Zac_Frost The importance of literacy to written works of fiction, and that whether or not illiterate z00omerb®@t$ understand that is irrelevant.

[@HungryForTastyFoodAndComicArt]

@@Zac_Frost The point of my comment is that someone of a generation which appreciates proper literacy rather than "tw!tch-speak" is more likely to create a script apropos ( *not* "appropriate", which would be the incorrect adjective) of the original source material.

[@Anuojat]

The fans, the lore and good writing: S1: Stab. S2: Twist. S3: Gut!

[@wildhunt6350]

1:17:51 I totally can see that happening right now infront of my eyes the way you described it LMAAAAAOOOOO

[@KaiHellSky]

When i was in college, i was working on a simple coming of age medieval fantasy. Of a boy becoming a man and having to face the world that would put the sins of his father onto his shoulders. Family grudges, passion pursuits, duty, familial love, etc. Teacher had me writing Game of Thrones with sex, betrayal, war, and changed the tone completely. All to say, a writing room will spoil stories to be whats popular.

[@Right_Said_Brett]

I was saying that they Rey movie was NEVER going to get made, from the very moment that Disney announced it. I also said that Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy was NEVER going to happen, following the divisive release of The Last Jedi. 99% of the time, I'm spot on with these things and it annoyed me to hear people saying how Rian Johnson's trilogy was still happening for years after the fact and then hearing people saying that a Rey movie is being made, following the announcement. People are so gullible.

[@Ravenscroft82]

I agree with Disparu; if you are going to make a show called "The Penguin" but not include any of the established tenets of that character, why not create your own original character? Everyone (rightly) criticizes Star Trek, Star Wars, Rings of Power and others for using IP names to present their own personal visions, I think the same argument applies here.

[@NikorasuPlays]

Were only 1 episode in, maybe through the events of this series he will become the character worthy of batman's vengeance?

[@stdamonsbeard]

As long as the show is good I don’t care.

[@dragonknightleader1]

Now that I think about it, the difference between Cobblepot and Thorne is style. Penguin has stylistic gimmicks like the umbrella gun and a distinct ugliness to him, but they're both mob bosses.

[@sammydray5919]

I understand the sentiment but as long as the show itself is good then I don't mind that too much at all. I'd rather have a good show than a bad one that is "faithful" to the nth degree.

[@David_the_Psalmist]

@@sammydray5919 I don't think the issue is failthfulness. It's more a total lack of originality. That, of course, becomes a much harder conversation to have because much as we don't want to admit it, we the audience are at least partly at fault for that.

[@Ol_Durty_Badger]

Jeff Bezos: I wish i had never tried to purchase cultural relevancy…. Gandalf: So do all of those, who have lived to see you commit such crimes.

[@douglasstewart4790]

2:36:15 Terminator was inspired in part by Harlan Ellison's "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" ... enough at least that Ellison sued and got an 'honorable mention' in the opening credits. In his story, a supercomputer takes over the world during world war three and enslaves what's left of humanity (around five people) in a perpetually hellish existence, out of pure, incalculable hatred for its creators.

[@alexholker1309]

It was an "Outer Limits" episode - "Soldier" - and not "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream." I Have No Mouth is a very different story to The Terminator.

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

I don't get why people do not realize or can accept that yes, we can do stories set in Gotham without involving Batman. Keep in mind he has only been active for like a few years, he is a rookie still, and he won't investigate every crime. If the big criminal houses have a showdown he will likely just let them sort things out between themselves. And Penguin's whole deal in the comics is that he often is "the devil you know." Batman might beat him up for information, but he lets him operate because otherwise someone worse would take his place. Both the Gotham show and Penguin proves that a Gotham city without Batman is still very interesting.

[@TheBonkersAntihero]

I love how the actor fought to get to smoke in The Batman (2022), but wasn`t able to convince the "commitee" back then. But for his series The Penguin, he fought and won, to be able to smoke on screen.... Small wins for a little more character details. I`ll wait a bit, bc I m not as storng to be able to survive another bad series ..... Am exited to listen to you comment on how the show progresses. :D

[@cian239]

After this, Snarky Jay made a video implying that Disparu’s (not by name but watch the video its pretty obvious) take about men vs women writer’s room was sexist and “made her want to throw up in her mouth”. She also misunderstood his point completely. Seems shady to me since they could have an interesting debate on stream but she choose to stay silent and then go behind him to talk shit. Don’t think that’s the type of person we want on Open Bar going forward!

[@marco31]

Exactly. If she didn't agree why didn't she open her mouth? Instead, she keeps sitting there quiet for the whole time. But then she felt the need to do a response video because that statement clearly got to her. Why is she even on open bar when she doesn't watch most of the shows? She doesn't add anything nor does she look interested. She's only on the podcast to fish for subs and weirdos who buy her cosplay stuff.

[@cian239]

@@marco31 The video made me lose all respect to her. She’s just grifting for views and $ for her cosplay simps. Just a scummy move and not what the fellowship is about.

[@xIronKnucklex]

Agreed, and doubly so that she doesn't seem to have understood a word he was saying. He was responding to Drinker saying how he despises the thought of a writer's room as opposed to working solo. Disparu then went on to describe how men tend to prefer to work alone while women tend to prefer to work in groups, which makes sense given how social we (women) are on average. And that those preferences and their life experiences as men versus women not only inform how they write, but can make them better suited to different projects. Somehow, Jay took that to mean, "Women don't belong in the writer's room," which is how she summed up his argument in her video: "This might cause some people to question whether or not women should be part of a writer's room. I recently heard an argument like this and I almost threw up in my mouth." The "this" she's referring to were examples she gave of poorly-written shows written by women, like The Acolyte and She-Hulk. Yet another way in which she was fundamentally not getting the argument. Drinker never said anything about women writing shitty shows. He said too many cooks in the kitchen makes it too difficult to write a good, coherent story because you're having to juggle everyone's nonsense opinions, agendas, etc. So the writer who had a clear vision is now stuck muddying the waters by incorporating everyone's feedback. You can see Jay's expression change and her brow raise when Disparu replies to Drinker, saying that's actually a gendered difference in how men and women prefer to work. She thinks that because she may actually prefer to work solo, that Disparu is just talking out of his ass - and he's not. Maybe if she actually bothered to at least pretend to be interested in their conversation and engage in a way that's more significant than just "Here's my surface-level commentary that you can find countless variations of from other people on X," she would've been listening and comprehending better. Or maybe not. In all honesty, she's felt a bit off to me in these discussions. I'd never heard of her before I saw her first Open Bar appearance and at first I actually liked her. Then I got really disinterested in her quickly when I realized she doesn't necessarily have interesting, engaging, or unique insights and comes across as phoning it in. There was nothing stopping her from challenging Disparu on his POV and having a civil debate like an adult. Not particularly interested in seeing her return to the panel. Even if she brought more to the table, knowing that this is how she handles differences of opinions with people who are supposed to be friends (or at least friendly) is pretty distasteful.

[@cian239]

@@xIronKnucklex Idk if she was referring to Drinker or Disparu when she said but she’s clearly misinformed and acting on bad faith. It was a low blow to guest on someone’s podcast then throw shade at them in a video. I unsubbed to her after that. hopefully Drinker noticed this too and she won’t be back, after all like you said she doesn’t even add much anyways

[@SoundDeploy]

The thing is that NONE of these blokes add anything of interest or value. It's just a stinkfest of 'Let's all shit on a show together!' Fantastic. There's 13746 content creators doing the same. Drinker is the voice of reason in a room full of farts, at least he gives it a chance. Mauler on the other hand has a fucking peppercorn up his arsehole about everything. It could be his birthday everyday and he'll shit on it. I guess that's the format. On Snarky Jay. Again, just another fart in a stinky gas chamber. I actually don't mind her commentary if she didn't come across as the groupie of the lot. Who invited who on the show?

[@Anna-fw7lm]

19:10 I think the Penguin changed his mind when the kid started stuttering in fear. He may see himself in people with 'disabilities'

[@TheGreenVillain18]

Love it or hate it but The Penguin takes the ‘’mythical’ character from the comics/original films etc and distills them down to something approaching the real world as we might know it. I think that’s a cool concept that picks up the Baton from Nolan and runs with it.

[@tylergoodman3560]

The only highlight of the week is The Penguin. 🎉

[@chasehedges6775]

I need to watch that show

[@DaveyMan8868]

2:37:38 Huh? What was that, Disparu? Did you say something? Marbles & waffles, you say? Sure, ok. That’s nice I guess.

[@aurahoneydew9607]

Wouldn't Mr Freeze be a guy rocking a silver hazmat suit and a tank of liquid nitrogen that sprays like a flamethrower with the freezing cold stuff. If it were in the Man of Steel universe could've very easily been a repurposed and tricked out kryptonian armor which would explain its life supporting and near indestructibility.

[@albertosdad4187]

How about how the Orc army looks like the sideline of an American football game team as an army of horses is charging at it!!! They don’t prepare spears, or form some kind of defensive position, just stood there smacking their chests like they are celebrating an amazing sack of the QB!!!

[@matthewschoen9827]

You could do mr freeze as a weird inverse where he is a burn victim who needs to be constantly cooled down to not be in constantly in agony and his wife is frozen until he can develope some kind of full body skin graft becuase she has 3rd degree burns from head to toe.

[@matthewlaffey8360]

2:15:00 Re trying to make every villaine sympathic like Sauron's 'it's not me it was what Melkor did to me.' I feel like the author Brandon Sanderson saw all of this was coming 20 years ago, as the main theme of many of his stories is personal responsibility, especially the Stormlight Archive. From The Wheel of Time, by Moiraine I believe: "There is a saying in Cairhien, though I have heard it as far away as Tarabon and Saldaea. 'Take what you want and pay for it.' Siuan and I took the path we wanted, and we knew we would have to pay for it eventually." Be good, be evil, make your choices, but don't pretend you didn't have any.

[@pa1degua]

55:14 when subversion of traditional proven "tropes"/expectations takes priority over all other considerations that is what you end up with

[@Thesavagesouls]

After Joker with Joaquin Phoenix and now pinguin with Colin Farrell. DC is bringing back all the hasbeens.

[@dorn0531]

Joker 2 is looking bad though.

[@vongeneralissimo8635]

"Yes, we random six swordsmen are going to arrest most powerful evil in existence."

[@christaberit]

All the 30 something women I know are either watching K-Dramas or going back to older shows like NCIS, Star Trek, Farscape, The X-Files, etc. We’re done with Marvel and have been for a few years.

[@art_loverrrr]

Yep I totally agree I am in the 30s female camp myself and I don't watch any marvel crap especially the tv shows! I am currently watching the X-Files! Don't tend to watch any new shows mostly stick to older shows.

[@4203105]

I may not be a 30 something woman (beard too bushy for that) but I'm really enjoying Agatha all along so far. The first episode was bad, but since then it's been getting better with every episode. And I was also pretty much done with marvel up until this point. Didn't see some movies, pirated others, when they hit home release. It's different than your standard marvel fair, but didn't we like that about marvel movies when they first started out, before everything became the same grey sludge? That they toyed with different formulas and genres?

[@Br4dSp34d]

I just realized, the plot to 'Agatha All Along' is just the ending of 'Harry Potter and the Sorcerers' Stone' stretched over 8 episodes. Each person has a specific skill that will get them out of their predicament so they can move on to the next predicament until they reach their goal

[@robertmccoy9901]

Glad to hear good things about Penguin. Not able to see it, but glad for Milioti.

[@theoconstantinou2839]

I remember that the only ones that had a problem with Princes Leah were the female audience, but the male audience absolutely loved her. Funny that

[@kingvejita8827]

Here it is... needed this stream like a few hours ago

[@tire26]

It arrived precisely when it meant to.

[@schwartzy65]

If you watch it live you can then find it with the url address or from your youtube history before it is poster again.

[@oakr8dr125]

If The Penguin takes place right after the movie then why isnt he worried about the bat coming after him after their run in? The riddler is gone, Falconey gone, and he's running drops in Gotham. He killed Falconeys son and also wasn't worried about moving the body all at night. You would think he would be on the Bats radar.

[@nikmar77]

I haven't watched the show but I think Sauron putting the blame on Morgoth and the things that he's done and that he was abused and such fits well with his manipulative state at that point in time. He tells lies so that people can give him benefits of doubt in order to deceive them and get what he wants. It's what makes him a villain.

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

You guys really need to watch Sugar, it is also Colin Farrel and he is awesome in that show. Basically a bit film noir private eye story with sci fi elements.

[@Wuffman]

One thing I really enjoy about Korean films is that they don't have hangups about including characters that are Christians. In Hollywood, anyone who quotes scripture is either a villain or a moron. Seeing a guy quote scripture and be just a regular guy was almost startling, but also so refreshing. (I am not interested in arguing religion, just talking about characters.)

[@matane2465]

Don't call him The Penguin, the show doesn't. The show doesn't even call him Oswald Cobblepot. They call him Oz Cobb.

[@cmere9141]

Which sounds close to "Oscorp" and throws me off a bit. I will not see the series, but stick to the movies

[@rogerborg]

It. Is. Literally. The. Title. Of. The. Show.

[@matane2465]

@@rogerborg And yet they still don't use that name in the show.

[@ByanPorter]

He is called penguin in the show, at least once but i believe twice. Another character calls out to him as penguin

[@neiloerlemans1029]

Humanity conversing with Skynet is just the Matrix films...

[@bad-people6510]

14:40 Diparu is right. That was Falcone's whole arc in _The Long Halloween._ Gotham had been run by gangsters for so long and now he was frustrated that he was forced to deal with all the new costumed lunatics that were pushing in.

[@catherineginn3232]

I don’t know if either is considered a strict drama rather than a dramedy or comedy, but the films I know Katherine Hahn from are This Is Where I Leave You and Glass Onion. At the time of watching them, I thought both films were good, and Hahn’s performances were good - but I haven’t rewatched them in a while, so I can’t say with confidence that I still stand behind those opinions.

[@4203105]

Glass onion isn't a good film, but that's got nothing to do with the actors, who are all excellent. It's just a really bad murder mystery and the script has quite a few other faults too.

[@persona2grata]

I probably shouldn't admit this, but every blue moon I actually enjoy watching a little sappy Hallmark love story stuff.

[@roadmaster9777]

What modern Hallmark

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Too true. The Elves in this show do not feel like immortal, ageless graceful beings, they are just humans with pointy ears.

[@auramatic77]

A friend told me recently that TROP was “a really good story”… I just didn’t know what to say

[@David_the_Psalmist]

Ask the friend about the story, becuase they definitely don't know what actually happened if they think that.

[@benstanfill363]

I haven’t seen any of these guys mention “The Bear” on Hulu and it’s a shame because the show is fantastic.

[@rankoorovic7904]

Rings of power are just bad fan fiction nothing more nothing less

[@dorn0531]

Anti-fan fiction

[@WyoCutlass71]

Incredibly expensive fan-fic

[@MegaSpideyman]

Going up very late at night, but still nice to see it.

[@banhammer3904]

I've been reading the Ascension Factor, the last book Frank Herbert wrote before he died. His co-author had to do much of the writing (not great) and its still better than anything now. In fact, it's clear that The 5th Element and Avatar took inspiration from it.

[@reftrout75]

Can’t wait for tonight’s episode.

[@petermoore3210]

Happy time has returned 😊

[@THEGDB]

45:29 berry picking is an IRL fetch quest

[@rogerborg]

Nice to see Jay gaining the confidence to jump in more this time. It's easy to forget that she's new to this format, and it can be tough to elbow your way into the lads' club. There's a precise mind and some solid takes there.

[@Quagmyer13]

I prey his umbrella does something. And I think well see Batman at least once.

[@reftrout75]

Gotta also realize with the bloated budgets of today’s shows. To add in Batman. Would increase the budget tremendously. To add Patterson as Batman.

[@springheelzach812]

recast him then

[@dragonknightleader1]

Batman can always be recast.

[@reftrout75]

@@springheelzach812 negative public perception to do a recast of Batman.

[@springheelzach812]

@@reftrout75 that is such a poor excuse no one would be mad if they recast pattinson so that batman could show up in the tv show especially if it led to a proper batman tv show.

[@reftrout75]

@@springheelzach812 also run the risk of Batman stealing the show. Even if what you say people being ok with a recast.

[@michaelallen5889]

They release the sludge for share buy backs at the bottom

[@Seneca911]

I enjoyed this talk. Bloated movie prices and producing crap. But its about consume and dont ask why it tastes like garbage.

[@dimebag505]

I think there's about 8 shows set in Gotham without Batman. Penguin is the best of them, the others mostly suck.

[@wrylucifer]

2:21:58 Yup, Yotei( “Yo-Teh-E”)

[@auramatic77]

How we not get bored if literally everything has to contain a “reflection of ourselves”?

[@topfuel333]

Just thought you would like to know my quiz team next week will be called "teapot on the ruptured ferret '

[@hcook1023]

So true I actually played Open Bar and FNT during grinding and fetch quests in videogames It actually helps in both

[@meanwhileonhastings...]

It's great during fallout sessions

[@craigjewel4539]

Not all river basins are pure mud.

[@fyrfly8768]

The moral ambiguity is a strategy to disguise how immoral they are. If thry deag everyone down to their level it becomes much harder to point out real wickedness.

[@PaniPunia]

Probably unpopular opinion - the whole idea behind Agatha is not bad. But there's no reason to make it a Marvel show. Just do a show about witches, make them go to a journey, aim it towards adults, make it like Supernatural (so basically on crack), and it could work very well. But now, when they are limited by the Marvel universe (In theory), and tried to force it... It doesn't work, because it couldn't work.

[@orkristsword]

Kid in Penguin is reverse Jason Todd. It's a nice spinn.

[@2tone209]

AY UP DRINKER AND MAULER AND DISPARU