Cross Kart gets 110HP Honda 919 Swap??

We begin swapping the tired old 1982 Honda CB750 engine out of our custom built cross kart, and replacing it with a 2003 Honda 919 engine. Engine removal was easy enough, and the new engine is smaller than the older engine (even though it's larger in displacement and makes more power!), however we run into one REALLY big problem!
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[@anonymousbrown]

This time around, you should try using a skid plate to protect the motor. It's way cheaper than a new motor.

[@brandondurkin6851]

Definitely should build a new cross kart with the 919. Would love to see that ASAP.

[@jagerandres5808]

All wheel drive.

[@MrVig]

@@jagerandres5808 😍

[@trevor8063]

I'm sure whomever gave them the bike was hoping they would get to see the engine get it's own build... I want to see them stick it in that atc :)

[@josteincarlsen2905]

I think it’s fun to see how much better it will go with the new engine. And why do you want a 4wd Crosscart?

[@paulanderson6932]

I agree I would like to see this

[@pherreinman3488]

Glad to see my old commuter bike put to a good cause!

[@chuckfry1227]

919 + jack shaft = great times

[@motoxjim929]

I came here to say... jack shaft!!😂😂

[@adamvonfintel86]

I also was going to say jack shaft

[@tomstech4390]

Double your shafts, double your efficiency loss.

[@Highoctanegarage]

Great minds think alike jack shaft easy fix

[@JuryRigged77]

First thing I thought too!

[@AdventureQuest4x4]

Crosskart 2.0 sounds great! Definitely need to improve the suspension assembly as well

[@justinwallace2022]

reverse box would be nice if yall can find one rated for that kind of power

[@steveunderhill6570]

@@justinwallace2022 how often do we use full power going in reverse? I'd guess almost never

[@lucyfiesta]

Hopefully theyll use the plasma table alot more for brackets and such

[@MrBenstero]

Time for slightly bigger tires too. Like 18 to 20''

[@Hitycooking]

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[@Everatti]

I love Charles! You should have him on more, he’s a great addition to the cars and cameras crew :)

[@Andrecht1]

Agree 100%

[@Hitycooking]

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[@TsunauticusIV]

We found charles alt account! Lol. Jk

[@thedragon2299]

Isn't he from grind hard plumbing?

[@banjerpicker5273]

He’s awesome. Bettern the lil guy

[@brianmeattey4151]

..who would like to see a come back of the rail drag car that was hanging on the ceiling in Isaac's shop lol just a question to see if many would like to see it come back .....and as far as the fram they can fix that for sure

[@josteincarlsen2905]

Me

[@christophershanz498]

He bent the frame

[@brentheltsley7187]

With the 919?

[@brianmeattey4151]

@@brentheltsley7187 yes

[@brianmeattey4151]

@@christophershanz498 frame can be fixed

[@deckname5794]

Charles: -I'm stuck. -It's crooked but it's in.

[@davesplace1307]

Give Charles more credit!!! Hes a great dude everytime he comes over stuff gets done!!!!!!

[@Fullthrottle440Garage]

Yeah I got to meet him at busco beach. Pretty cool dude , definitely doesn't get enough credit

[@mommylovesprh]

add a reverse box, problem solved. or something simple like a jack shaft.

[@joshrice7937]

My thoughts exactly!

[@19thumper76]

i was going to say the same thing. from the guys who put a jack shaft in everything their first idea wasn't to put one in?

[@lowrybrock8272]

Exactly my thought as well.

[@natewj1077]

To much power. More complex to maintain. Keep it simple.

[@user-neo71665]

The one inch tube is undersized for the 700cc anyways. Better to build a proper sized cart for Ike out of ideal sized strength tube for the bigger engine.

[@MotoSkwid270]

Charles needs to show up some more. Love watching you guys but it’s awesome to see him be happy with y’all and having fun. He seems like a really good guy, nice to see other people to😁

[@joeytyls]

A 2-3” offset of the motor would not effect the balance to the extent of your thinking... that or doing a short chain to a shaft and then another chain running to the axle

[@slackersteve2004]

build Ike his own cross kart, i really enjoyed the series when u built the first one...great work guys keep it up

[@ericnorris8704]

Yea and Ike will be much better this time around since he learned from all the mistake's he made on the first one

[@scream11525]

That's what the trophy cart is kinda

[@383Bbohn]

well they couldve uses the 919 in the trophy kart since it was given to Ike but Master Chief John has to be one up on everyone and has to lay down the law. Ike is just a lil too nice sometimes and John should take time and make a few videos of finding his own stuff for projects.

[@kz6fittycent]

THIS!

[@Hitycooking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmWbhIOXis6ZiKc

[@gavincline209]

I have an 81’ cb900 engine, even the factory carbs still hooked together!! Message me. I’m close to y’all in SC! I had go kart dreams myself but life got in the way. Was hoping for 100hp on methanol could be achieved. Lol but we shall never know Thumbs up this so they can see it guys.

[@Zark-Muckerberg]

They live in NC though.

[@gavincline209]

@@Zark-Muckerberg yeah but I’m still not that far away from there area.

[@blkicemike4857]

Hell yeah fellas!! FINALLY!¡! Its about time!! I have been waiting to see yall do a build like this! Thank you tons. Just be careful driving that beast..😎🤙..

[@danielgrady9264]

I'm glad you guys figured out the trick!! On most longitudinal config bikes, laying the bike on its side is the best way to get the engine out or in. You can also ratchet strap a 2x4 between the crank case and cylinders and pick up on either side of the bike and pull it out the side.

[@russellbergersen3296]

Instead of an offset for the engine, run a jackshaft.

[@charliegijones]

Plenty of room to do that.

[@FUELFIREGARAGE]

I was thinking the same thing

[@bryanteel3046]

I love the cross cart it's about to be even more sick please do a Revival of the 670 Honda Davidson my all-time favorite project!

[@jasoncarpenter291]

Yeah

[@nathangerardy8538]

Yes please

[@damienhoelscher5612]

Definitely

[@playinwithfirecustoms7954]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

[@notoriousbige281]

A fully built predator 670 Honda Davidson ?? That would be sick

[@mrichards4724]

Loving this channel. Good synergy between you guys and cool builds. Wishing you guys much success from Sydney, Australia. Keep it up 👍

[@michaelfontaine101]

Love your channel guys it’s the first thing I look for when I get on KZbin thanks for the videos keep it up!!!!

[@CarsandCameras]

The engine and chassis will both be put to good use... with other projects!

[@brennensbuildsmoore5537]

Put a v twin on the bike frame, a predator 670 stage 4

[@williamrathman2066]

If the engine is underpowered why not bore out and do other work like that to it

[@grovecitysirens_GCS]

You need a exhaust fan in the shed for that

[@brennensbuildsmoore5537]

@@williamrathman2066 old age

[@prankstothemax5808]

Wher can I get a go kart frame from

[@chrispearce4481]

I looked into the fueling on the 919 when I changed the exhaust on my one, turns out they run pretty rich from the factory. The power commander possibly has too rich a map on it from the previous owner

[@hobofightref]

super stoked to see all the new knowledge get applied to the next crosskart!

[@TexasBaker]

New, bigger crosskart outfitted with one of those 2 stroke sled motors y'all were gifted last year!

[@supertedogpriken]

Yea they got like a litle hoard of snowmobile engines from several of there fans. It is such a shame they have not done anything with any of all them 2 stroke engines they where gifted. And a new build with a snawmobile 2stroke engine and a cvt would make the best cross kart ever.

[@TexasBaker]

@@supertedogpriken I was hoping maybe they just had a bunch of planned videos, maybe that's why they haven't gotten to them yet, they are planned but in the future. Or maybe they are waiting for the right idea/build.

[@supertedogpriken]

@@TexasBaker No i dont think they have any plans with them. I started askeing them about there snowmobile engines for over a year ago(maybe more) I was asking several times on every video they put out for like 20=30 videos in a row without any answer from them. and then i finaly got a answer from ike on one of his videos.He said they are hoping to get to it in the future, but no plans..... I think they are just sceard of 2 stroke engines. It is a new platform for them. Must suck to bee one of the many guys that gave them all them engines and was hoping to see there gift on there channel. for 3-4 years ago when they tested a regular gokart with a snowmobile engine when they was on a swap meet. And they both was realy, REALY impresed with the speed and power, and both of them sat in there car and promesed everyone they where gone do a snowmobile engine build. I think that it was after that when they got all them snowmobile engines.

[@Mountainpageproductions]

Yes please

[@MrVig]

hat If you did a jack shaft I think It will work with the 919!

[@spicersgarage6470]

What I would do

[@CarsandCameras]

We thought about it and it wouldn’t fit

[@jameskisor8632]

Lazy

[@MrVig]

@@CarsandCameras Wow It's so tight back there

[@Hitycooking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmWbhIOXis6ZiKc

[@bassmandave5865]

Throw the Ducati engine in the cross cart.

[@CarsandCameras]

We need new clutches and the ol ducarti will be ready for action

[@ethanstevens1199]

@@CarsandCameras or maybe build another cross kart to put the Ducati engine so u guys can both have a cross kart to drive

[@jameskisor8632]

I can't believe that they gave up so easily what a fucking joke

[@jameskisor8632]

They are probably still confused after the monstrosity that they call the bronco or the trainwreck that they call the trophy truck both junk in my opinion

[@aceneto9386]

James Kisor what have you hand built souly in your garage?

[@brianrhubbard]

Cool looking forward to the new build. I love the menacing looks of 1.0 and the low center of gravity it has.

[@MrsG0214]

I’ve been watching you guys for a long time and I am so happy for you guys y’all have come a very long way from back in the day

[@bobbiehighsmith4780]

Looks like it's time to build another crosskart👍👍👍

[@garthkerr621]

It’s crazy to see how little of a frame the bike has also happy to see the cross kart being worked on 😁

[@shawnkiller90]

Alot of motorcycles have very little actual frame as the engine it self is the central "frame" Per se.

[@PlatinumRatio]

The engine won't be a part of the cross cart frame.

[@shawnkiller90]

@@PlatinumRatio "frame the bike has " he was talking about the motorcycle, the second part of his comment about the cross cart is a separate matter. I was commenting just about the motorcycle it self.

[@garthkerr621]

@@shawnkiller90 yeah I know that I’ve owned a hand full myself

[@Hitycooking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmWbhIOXis6ZiKc

[@LanceJeffery]

Its actually nice to see sometimes, things just do work as planned. Keep up the fun vids.

[@scoutmikula4795]

Crosscart 2.0 big enough for Ike to drive it comfortable! So when you get the old one back up and running. You both have your own Crosscart. 😁👍

[@colerippeon3903]

Its running rich because it has that power commander on it. The tune is probably super rich

[@joshrice7937]

And they were revving it cold.. 🙄

[@johnrusk977]

Y'all really need to race Chris from rather b welding

[@XSMotorWorks]

I won’t in on that. I just got my Hybrid Kart working.

[@feeterican]

Chris from Rather B Welding, he's a Awesome builder (truly great at building) but not so good at driving. Ike would certainly win hands down. Now, put Ike or Ethan from Grind Hard behind the wheel of the 18 speed double arm suspension cart and that would be a freakin awesome show!

[@Wik3dNuTS4k]

The thing is chris is scared of driving the crazy machines he builds

[@feeterican]

@@Wik3dNuTS4k I agree with you 100%

[@jafferm1938]

@@feeterican they need chris to help them with this lol

[@donaldpollard8172]

Been watching you guys for the past 2 years. It's cool to see you guys building bigger badder toys. Also seeing the progress and knowledge jon is gained.

[@JohnHill-jm7tm]

Got this Old Man waiting for the next video. I know you two are not giving up. Love the video. 🏎️😎💝💝

[@kollinknack9288]

Cross kart 2.0 sounds awesome, but you’re really telling me that you can’t do a jack shaft to make it work??? No matter what you do, I know it’ll be awesome, but make it quick! I miss the cross kart too much!

[@zmac7467]

I was thinking the same thing, short jackshaft behind the motor to jog that driveline over... Maybe there’s things we can’t see that prevents that. Ike is a pretty sharp guy, if that could be done he’d probably be all over it. 👍🙂

[@leeddog85]

Haha third, was thinking 'Why not throw on a jack shaft?'.. or re-modify the rear end.. "Is it worth it?", heck Yes!..lol I wanna see them Make that engine fit.. Even if it means using zip-ties and stretch condoms for adrive belt, I wanna see them do it lol. Re-modifing a rear end for that engine.. push, its what they Do! lol

[@holdenrice9694]

Maybe you could have scooched the engine forwards enough so that you could have put a jackshaft between the engine and the rear axle and had 2 chains. You might have to move the seat forwards but if you're redoing the front end anyways then you might as well lengthen it.

[@josteincarlsen2905]

Why do you want it longer? I don’t get it..

[@holdenrice9694]

@@josteincarlsen2905 it would just be a side effect of moving the seat forwards but it might help ike fit in it better.

[@yudumb9941]

Big respect keep the grind going 💯

[@007Moron]

I like the concept of CrossKart v2.0. I'm not a vehicle designer, but I'd approach it like this: Design the driver cockpit first to house each of you comfortably, and safely. Plan where all controls will be located. Second, design the powerplant and driveline compartment to house, and handle the engine and components you'll be using. Third, design the suspension to handle the specific duties the vehicle will be used for. This sequence makes sense to me, and I will concede there's a thousand steps in planning and implementing, but I believe you'll save time, money, and frustration with a thorough plan at the beginning of a major project like that. Adjust as circumstances dictate. Best wishes, and thanks for the entertaining vids guys!

[@matthewf1979]

Yes, build Ike his own Crosskart! He deserves it!

[@CrazyIvan1337]

This might be a little too optimistic, especially since I can't see the CrossKart in person, but...what about a jackshaft??? I know it would add some complexity, but with the fully independent rear suspension, it should be pretty straightforward.

[@zkhydro4985]

2.0 is a great idea, maybe an Isaac sized cart so you can have a John cart and an Isaac cart.

[@RearEngineShop]

So cool you guys are almost to 1M subscribers. I was here around 200k. Excited for crosskart 2.0. 🤘

[@garageguy5174]

The 670 would be so mean in the cross cart!! And hey reverse just tops it off!! Great vids!!

[@snowmanspowersports2621]

Didn't realize how close ya'll are to 1 million!!! I remember 10K haha its been an awesome ride watching your channel can't wait for the years to come.

[@1slwmoforc990]

The rich mixture could also be the fuel map program. You said it had a power commander, right?

[@austinkey6776]

Good To See Charles You Guys Need Him Full Time

[@grahamrooney247]

Imagine a jack shaft 🤯

[@CarsandCameras]

Won’t fit, adds complexity and potential points for failure

[@93RNR]

@@CarsandCameras that whole thing is a potential point of failure right now😂😂

[@uncrustable9923]

@@93RNR Let's see your custom made from scratch 750cc cross cart.... 🤣🤣

[@bustinyanutz4195]

@@CarsandCameras you say that but you put 50 chains on that bronco thing

[@93RNR]

@@uncrustable9923 try old ass Toyota on f350 axles bud😂

[@brandonfloyd6321]

919 on drag rail and 2 stroke on crosscart

[@theslashmanrc7503]

Yes

[@playinwithfirecustoms7954]

But the 670 sounds SO GOOD on the rail..

[@holdenbostocky1998]

A 2 stroke triple would be perfect on there!

[@Hitycooking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmWbhIOXis6ZiKc

[@glendecuir6317]

Enjoyed it. Big thanks to Charles. Can't wait for 2.0 peace guys stay warm. Catch you on the flip side

[@hermanpotgieter344]

How cool was 1:26 in the video when the opened the door. It was like the heavens was shining on the cart

[@lukasstipp_bmx]

That music when your were taking the 919 out of the cross kart, almost made me cry 😢

[@BBBoooooooBBB]

OMG, that 2 stroke would be mental, please do it!🤩

[@de04609]

Absolutely! To the 2.0 your builds are amazing.

[@randyyewell3755]

Dude, that sucks about the 919. I know you guys were really looking forward to ripping it up with the new engine. Cross cart 2.0 sounds great!!! Can't wait to seebthe new build. Cheers guys.

[@olekaarvaag9405]

4:04 As a great man once said (then repeated over and over to supress the pain): "Pain is temporary, glory is forever"

[@lennym1273]

Better off doing a new frame that old one is super jankie, maybe with removable sections so it's easier to fix or work on...

[@CarsandCameras]

Ok I feel like super janky is a little harsh I have feelings for the cross kart you know

[@cortniesmith3138]

Super jankie?...... no... no it’s not

[@albertskinner4129]

When we gonna get more trophy truck videos?

[@scrapbudgetgarage4404]

@@CarsandCameras I don't think it's harsh, also how many times has it been crashed? If I remember right 3 or 4 Crashes add jank in my opinion

[@lennym1273]

@@CarsandCameras Sorry but with all the patches and all...

[@inmyopinion6836]

Premier adult decision making guys . I think a cross cart make would be safer , and with a real 100 HP , more controllable . Love the show .Rock on brothers .

[@CaneAtvse]

Holy cow I didnt realize how big the channel has grown.... almost to a million subscribers I still remember joining when yall were looking at like the 10k subscription goal

[@wheelerdealer4481]

Liked the video before I even watched it because I know it’s going to be great

[@fyz8663]

You should k24 swap the cross cart. That would be awesome

[@wouldyouglowme4235]

This Honda engine should be good enough Aw it doesn’t work

[@theslashmanrc7503]

@@wouldyouglowme4235 i know.

[@holdenbostocky1998]

Now that’s something I can get behind! Or a RB26

[@Hitycooking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmWbhIOXis6ZiKeor

[@fyz8663]

@@holdenbostocky1998 that would be awesome but it wouldn’t fit. It would have to be a new project. K24/RB26/jz go kart?

[@CaneAtvse]

Always enjoy when Charles shows up to help out

[@roubenbird]

Charles is awesome. Glad he is back for a bit.

[@letsgopedal4249]

1:08 owen Wilson's face looks like the engine sounds. MEAAN

[@james13914]

To counter the richness you put a turbo on it simple :)

[@mikemathewson5295]

that accually didnt accure to me. you just opened up a whole bunch of possabillities in my little world!!!!!! and you sir just may be a genius!!!

[@easymove1312]

I love the power you can hear in that bike

[@alvgeirsteganehauge6999]

Waiting for crosskart 2.0!!! Keep up the good stuff!

[@chancelange2770]

Rebuild the rear end and front, there's so many different things y'all could do with it and it would be worth the time

[@spud4242]

rebuild the dragster with the 919 engine...

[@gmane1989]

Awesome. I finally get to watch this. I've been out of power and water for days here in Texas. Cold!! Y'all should predator the street bike frame!! There's a guy that did it with a Harley

[@jakelindsey5837]

Hey John and Ike, I actually have a 1980 Honda CB 900c and I’m also located in eastern North Carolina. It’s almost complete. (Missing the rusted out tank and couple body pieces that would matter to a project like yours.) It’s not in the best condition as it’s been sitting for years. If you’d be interested just let me know I can send pictures or whatnot. We may not be able to work it out but I definitely felt like it was worth reaching out. Also anyone that wants to like this comment to help them see feel free. Also as someone else mentioned it is shaft drive so you would need to keep that in mind but it is also split high low transmission.

[@Ifitallfails]

Take what you learned from the first one and you can make a banger on the 2nd one. 2.0 baby

[@Idkmusic272]

Finaly I was wating so hard!

[@wpb3592]

🔥w a i t i n g i n t e n s i f i e s🔥

[@theslashmanrc7503]

Hmmm interesting question

[@donellmuniz590]

TMI.

[@Hitycooking]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmWbhIOXis6ZiKedy

[@SteveLurvey]

I enjoyed the humble pie episode. Fails happen, go forward from a fail. Important lesson.

[@steviefigs4677]

Let the build commence !!!!!! Hell yea!!!

[@accountunknown4487]

The day before this episode i sold my bike and i seriously thought for a split second i had just sold it to yall 😅 would’ve been cool

[@evasesh6585]

I wouldnt mind getting the rear shock off of that 919 for my Honda Hawk rebuild I am working on Edit: I could probably point them to about a half dozen or more CB900 and a couple dozen CB750s The motorcycle salvage yard I frequent for my project bikes is full of them.

[@theupscriber65]

They sell them on eBay.

[@jstephenallington8431]

Definitely would like to see a new and upgraded version 2.0 Cross Cart. Your fabrication skills have leveled up since you built the first one. Great job guys!

[@spartan3498]

First time commenting on a video after being a viewer of 3 years but I honestly wouldn’t mind seeing the 919 dropped into the dragster. It was I think one of the first really big build that got built from the ground up and would be kinda cool to see it brought back for sure. But I could also see a second cross kart for Ike being a thing so there is two of them.

[@baconatordoom]

Yaaas instalike when Charles is on a episode.

[@Acestrex]

Lame giving up too easily! Make it fit!! That old engine is so clapped out, I said that from the start.

[@dougstripp7522]

2.0 cross kart is a Great way to go guys !!!! 919 is a super motor! I have a 2003 919 bike and I love it. Cheers guys love your video’s

[@jackjackalong2122]

I'm really sorry chap's its hard to make those hard decisions. Hope to see the next one soon. Happy building from a fellow cart builder in South Africa

[@Ratkill9000]

A touch lower gearing on the axle side of the cross kart will help it rip.

[@isaiahmarion9718]

Boy that thing is slicker than a peeled onion

[@jaratt85]

Building a new one that has all the protection you need for the engine as well as you (no turning into Parker from Cleetus and Cars by getting scalded!) would be a good idea. Then again maybe you should swap that thing to a built 670 and put the CB900 engine into the drag rail and get that thing REALLY going fast. Though if you do that I definitely suggest seatbelts and something to hold your arms in, netting or whatever. Running a less restrictive exhaust will make the bike engine run leaner. I'd definitely suggest checking your plugs and having your injectors cleaned. You could have a dead cylinder dumping unburnt fuel or a stuck injector dumping WAY too much fuel. (nice part about carbs you can easily adjust them unlike computers)

[@Disnect]

It is so funny to see so guys trying to get the engine out of the frame xD ... I had the same issues with my 919 xD

[@-never-gonna-give-you-up-]

Pretty useless video tbh... small spoiler, the whole video is about taking the engine out of the kart and taking the engine out of the bike....

[@covid-ul2ee]

Wanted to comment that too, its sad to see such video's, at least put the removing of both engines in the video where you swap them.

[@-never-gonna-give-you-up-]

@@covid-ul2ee exactly 💯

[@theroyalaustralian]

919 Cross Cart confirmed, hats off to you guys, well done

[@brycepiper938]

You will love the cart with a 2 stroke. Light, simple, tons of power

[@richlucasjr9116]

New crosskart 2.0 is a good idea but you guys should just put a jackshaft and sprockets to move it over to match it up with the old rear sprocket and accel. Looks like you have plenty of space for it. If not it's small enough to put one of your snowmobile engine's you have in it and you won't have to shift. Either way you have the means and the know how. Good luck and keep on building

[@davidgregory1507]

My apologies that was supposed to say a jack shaft could be used to align the chain with the rear sprocket and the engine would be centered. With cars and cameras it has not always been about what was easier. I have been more impressed when you take something and keep at it and make it work. Thanks again for all the content I will continue watching

[@shynsly01]

6:20 That back tire, though! Done a few burnouts? 🤣

[@CWeetus]

New crosskart would be really cool, looking forward to that my bois👍

[@thesuperjank6109]

this is a sweet build guys! go for making the motor fit, use a jackshaft if needed. ditch the big airbox for small carbs didnt realize the 919 has a boxed frame like that. looks very crude compared to twin spar aluminum and tube frames you'd normally see on a bike

[@markrush4486]

Cross cart 2.0 sounds cool can’t wait for the videos

[@davidtappe5337]

No brakes, no steering, no suspension. Let’s throw a bigger engine at it. You guys rock.

[@anesthetized7053]

cross cart 2.0! the original cross cart was very much a project where you figured it out along the way. you guys have a lot of experience that you can apply to the next project to make the build more streamlined and have a much better result.

[@shaharsdechen2537]

thrilled to see Cross Kart 2.0!