Why didn’t God demonstrate his power and stop the Holocaust?

On April 30, 2019, there was a shooting in a UNC Charlotte classroom. Two people died and four were injured. The following semester Dr. Frank Turek and Dr. Rice Broocks to reach the hurting students and answer their questions. One student couldn’t see why God demonstrate his power and stop the Holocaust to demonstrate he was God. While no one knows for sure why certain evils befall people (see Luke 13:1-5) or why God chooses to act or not act in certain circumstances, Frank and Rice Broocks point out that God doesn’t want us to merely believe THAT He exists, but to trust IN HIm.
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[@mikeramos91]

There’s no point for an atheist to argue why did God not stop an evil event. God stops the evil events in the Old Testament & they complain about it. So whatever God does or does not do, they will complain anyway.

[@jaybirdjetwings7516]

The problem is his standard of what constitutes as evil, and he often acts in ways that are cruel and usual punishment

[@mnight207]

Right. Frank says this exact thing in another video. So, puts quotations around it so people know this isn’t your thought or words

[@Keesha_Hardy]

@@jaybirdjetwings7516 God's standard of evil encompasses *way* more than ours does. Remember, He is the standard of what good is in the universe. Essentially, He would have to stop everyone, because we have all, at the very least, lied. There *_is_* going to be a time where He will end all evil, but He's waiting until everyone has had the chance to choose to know the Gospel, repent of their sins, and put their trust and faith in Him.

[@therion5458]

clueless

[@letsprayandfasttogether9618]

Jaybird Jetwings every time God killed anyone was because they were evil and He’s going to do it again in Revelation the times we are living in.

[@gracemorganspeaks]

I pray for those who feel tired, weary, used by others, mocked and falsely accused. May the lord give you strength to carry on and be built on the foundation of Jesus christ. Job said though He slay me, yet will i trust Him.

[@dannyc9903]

Build on the foundations of Jesus?! Its been 2000 years and its only got worse for you! You're wasting your trust!

[@jerrodlopes186]

@@dannyc9903 go away Satan.

[@dannyc9903]

@@jerrodlopes186 Great comeback- don't you need to get back to your burger van?

[@ezekielguy402]

Danny C Do you not read scriptures Jesus said he will come when everyone hears the gospels

[@dannyc9903]

@@ezekielguy402 Its just a book! You have zero evidence!

[@festushaggen2563]

The real question being asked here is why doesn't God do all the things we want Him to do when we want Him to do them. The simple answer is because He is God and we aren't. And God stopping the Holocaust and everyone seeing it in no way guarantees that anyone would love Him, submit to Him, trust in Him and worship Him. Jesus did His works for all to see and he was falsely accused, beaten and nailed to a cross for it. Never underestimate the depravity of man and our desire to be our own god.

[@LOTRFAN33]

"Funnily enough" God repeatedly saved Israel and a relatively short period after each "save" they kept on "falling" to the old ways of idolatry etc. Basically they forgot about him or refused to believe in him. These were people that witnessed his power. So, him showing himself again would ammount to very little or nothing.

[@LOTRFAN33]

@Paul Morgan I was making a comment to a poster who obviously believes in God as i do and in a different way supporting his comment. So it wasn't about proving his existence or not. Now if want to have that discussion there are others better suited. However i urge you to read about the likeliness of life, let alone how ordered everything on Earth is. There are just too many instances where if "this or that" then life would not exist.

[@XerpollAnimation]

Dont waste ur tym thinking about that. Preachers are good gymnasts

[@anthonybolton2717]

for all to see, really ?

[@anthonybolton2717]

@@LOTRFAN33 yeah, its just easier to say god did it ;)

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

Jesus could have called legions of angels to save himself, but he didn't so that he could save us. And it's said that our present suffering is not comparable to the glory the Lord will reveal thru man one day. And eternity will swallow this all up.

[@dannyc9903]

And that day of glory, when will that be?! 2000 years and still no sign!

[@koonkoon01]

@@dannyc9903 No sign? I don't think you're really looking at the bigger picture. Sigh. One another long thread of comment again I guess. Here we go...

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

@subtracted, demonstrate what?

[@biblehistoryscience3530]

@@dannyc9903 “Most importantly, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. “Where is the promise of His coming?” they will ask. “Ever since our fathers fell asleep, everything continues as it has from the beginning of creation.”” 2 Peter 3:3-4

[@henryfrancis9533]

@@dannyc9903 you've just fulfilled a prophecy, my friend....The Bible says, “Scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation

[@peterburman5193]

"I'm not even going to ask about the problem of evil." Proceeds to ask about the problem of evil.

[@truthiz2805]

No. He meant that proving that evil exists does not disprove god. That was fine.

[@gloreeuhh-]

@@truthiz2805 or that it’s the cause as to why He didn’t prevent these events?

[@joshuahand407]

Q: Why does God not intervene? A: What god? You can't be mad at God and simultaneously claim He doesn't exist. Who you mad at?

[@SwedeenXBL]

That's not the point and just shows your ignorance. Personally I wanna believe there is a God I have never seen the "almighty" God intervene so what except a book written by humans do I have to go on? I'm not gonna trust a book made by people as proof. Because just like with this video it shows what people or humans are capable of. Lying and trying to exterminate people for being Jewish. So explain to someone that is on the fence about a God. And "God doesn't want you to believe he is real, he wants you to trust in him" doesn't hold any weight.

[@SwedeenXBL]

@Paul Morgan ? You're gonna need to rephrase that abit better.

[@joshuahand407]

@@SwedeenXBL To any in this feed: I would recommend you read the Bible. Study it. I feel often times we want a quick and easy answer. The Bible speaks on the origin of Jewish people. Newer books claim there is neither Jew or Gentile, which is just a fancy name for a non-Jew. God just chose the Jewish people to show the rest of the world who God is. You know God exists because you want to believe in Him. You're just mad, but that's OK. There are books on that very subject. I would read Job and Jonah, and then Mark and Romans. Plenty of evidence exists for the reality of God. KZbin apologetics. Jesus died on a cross because He loves you. But you have to read to understand what that means, (a modern day cross would be the electric chair for example) and maybe talk to Him. Ask Him, if he's really there, to speak to your heart and mind.

[@SwedeenXBL]

Paul Morgan ? I do believe in evolution. I pointed out I would like to believe there is a God not that I do believe a God exists.

[@SwedeenXBL]

joshua hand Im not mad. But I could just as easily read a book about the big bang creating everything. Its basically 2 books except one has pretty secure facts. Now do I take the big bang as a secure fact because i read a book about it? No, and reading a book about god wouldnt make me believe in him either. The ”you know god exists because you want to believe in him” it works the other way around also then, yes? So what is it? Does he exist or not? Tell your buddy to show himself and I might join your cult.

[@jonnyshanon2103]

When we deny God,when we throw him out of our schools, when we throw him out of our court houses and continue to do sin in his sight,how can we expect God to act on our behalf? We deny him ,then we blame him when bad things happen.

[@skersaroony2195]

Jonny Shanon well you can’t force religion on kids because not everyone believes in the same religion

[@appletherapy3492]

Skersaroony Thats why evolution and religion should not be taught in school. The parents should teach them that vital part.

[@babbisp1]

@@appletherapy3492 Evolution is a fact. What you do with it is up to you (there are theistic evolutionists), but to put it on equal par with young-earth creationism is laughable. Evolution is accepted by 99% of scientists in fields related to the subject. If school is meant to educate, then kids should absolutely be taught about evolution.

[@michaelflores9220]

An all good, praiseworthy God would use mind control to force good behavior, not threats and violence.

[@Im_Just_Saying_87]

@@babbisp1 Adaptation of individual species to fit their current environment throughout time, I believe in. The idea that we all started as single cell organisms that changed into fish, then magically changed into monkeys over time, then once again magically changed into humans over time? That sounds ridiculous. Species don't change over time into other species. They adapt over time into different types of that same species. I will never believe that I evolved from a monkey that 3veolvee from something else entirely which crawled out of the ocean millions of years ago as a sea dwelling creature. It's just ludicrous. Atheists say God creating people and all creatures, etc is ridiculous because it sounds like some magical fairy tale. But then turn around and expect us to to believe that we all morphed from 100% different species over time repeatedly, from one to another to another, until we became humans, and you all don't think that it sounds like some magical fairy tale. The irony is absolutely astounding.

[@MCClark]

This guy has some really good answers, I really appreciate how he gives us a point of view that (at least myself) hadn’t thought of...

[@danielalva2]

Agreed

[@MCClark]

Paul Morgan You ever notice how when there is a king, or champion, or person in a high position, like your manager or boss at your job, that person in the high place is always envied or his position is always wanted by those who aren’t in that high place or just can’t be in that high place, nevertheless, the desire to be in that high place or be like that person in that high place is always abound...? In short, every one wants to be like or be where that person in the high place is... Let’s bring this into perspective: you don’t often hear others mocking or talking trash about buddha or krishna or allah do you...? No, we don’t really... Why...? Because these false gods aren’t in the high place, they don’t have the high position that IS desired... But there is One God Who IS in the high place, the highest of Heavens and that IS the One True Living God Who you just mocked and you can follow your own judgment and continue to mock Him... That is your God given choice... But, I assure you just as sure and He IS alive, on judgment day, your knees will bend and you will bow before Him in terrible fear and you will profess that He IS Lord... (Philippians 2: 10- 11) But then, if you wait until then to do it, it will be too late... Don’t continue to be like satan and desire the high place, (Isaiah 14: 14- 15), of you will end up in hell, along with him who hell was created for... (Matthew 25: 41): “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL and his angels...’” I pray you repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ...

[@ContemporaryCompendium]

@Paul Morgan May God bless you and yours, sir 😊

[@HajiStaxGaming]

Paul Morgan You do realize the smartest scientists of their time were disproven on things they thought they had proof for. Like Aristotle thinking the solar system revolves around the Earth...disproven by Galileo. But then, Galileo thought there was no way the moon could create the Earth’s ocean tides...proven incorrect by Sir Isaac Newton...who then died eating mercury...be careful thinking you or anyone else knows everything. You pride will be your downfall. God is real, Jesus REALLY walked the Earth and was REALLY crucified on a cross. There’s actual historical evidence, but you wouldn’t know that because you’re not searching for truth, you’re searching to be right. Unfortunately, you aren’t. I’ll pray for you.

[@annecollins7065]

@Paul Morgan Actually Jesus' life is mentioned in many ancient manuscripts. Consider that Jesus lived such a remarkable life of great significance that EVERY civilization's advances, legal documents, medical journals, discoveries, reports, research, books, newspapers, awards, monarchy's, political reigns, birth or death certificates, ALL cultures are recorded according to HIS lifetime on this Earth. Our whole, entire world is ordered & documented on history's time line begun over two thousand years ago & counting. The Bible is more than an old book. It's called The Living Word bc it is timeless, relevant & contemporary in it's message & wisdom. The 'proof' you demand is found in what is known as an 'inner witness.' it's not man made it's God inspired & you can't be shown, you find it for yourself. You can start with world history searches.

[@christformealways9891]

Thank you Brother Frank and team for your hard work in Christ. You are carrying the Cross and standing for His kingdom. God bless you. Love n prayers from England

[@madwhitehare3635]

England + 2 more...xx

[@SaxonC]

It’s laughable how a lot of human beings think God should show his power. God doesn’t have to prove anything to us! He’s GOD! Our minds are not HIS mind! Faith is believing without seeing. Dr Turek is a blessing

[@robertlukacs4954]

Faith is believing based on the evidence that we have.

[@KingAries85]

Yes blind faith is called willful ignorance and yes you would think that if someone is claiming to be all powerful and controls you that they would show you but then again I’m just a free thinker

[@kongsied4279]

Faith isn't fact though and anyone that asks this question brings up a great point, God has intervened several times throughout history" Allegedly " don't get me wrong, I" Know God " not exclusively I just that the entity is as real as my hands, I just believe he's just like us or indifferent to alot of things, he might have created this physical universe, just messing around, he probably never interacted with mankind, like at all.

[@redpillfreedom6692]

Given how many people doubt his existence due to a glaring lack of evidence, he absolutely needs to prove himself, especially if he's trying to save as many souls as possible.

[@jimcrosby3944]

@@KingAries85 Blind faith is not willful ignorance. Not even close. We're all born ignorant but have to work hard to remain that way, I think that was Ben Franklin. Blind faith isn't ignorance at all. As Ayn Rand would say: “The hardest thing to explain is the glaringly evident which everybody has decided not to see.”

[@jsj31313jj]

John 4:48 Jesus asked, “Will you never believe in me unless you see miraculous signs and wonders?”

[@random-nz7dy]

More overlooking all the people who witnessed Jesus miracles and yet really didn't seem to care anymore to follow him.

[@jsj31313jj]

@@random-nz7dy As a Christian, the warfare of our foe is after our mind he sees the weakness of our flesh. And education nor legislation is the answer. Environment even isn't the answer, may I remind you Adam and Eve got in trouble in the Garden of Eden, you're not going to have a better environment than that. "Mighty through God is the pulling down of strongholds". Remember Corinth, the strongholds that were in hearts and minds of the Corinthians were the walls of resistance; arrogance, ignorance, despair, high-minded attitudes, sophistication, intellectualism, and demonic attitudes. Attitude is everything, take back the fortress of your mind, guard your mind with all diligence, for out of it are all the issues of life. Friend, we belong to Jesus, he is our sovereign in this war. God made us that we can't think two thoughts at one time. If your're thinking what's right you can't think what's wrong. Center your mind on the Lord Jesus Christ, don't let the devil take away your pure hearted devotion.

[@t0nym0ntana17]

Yup, another quote written by a man 😂😂😂😂😂😂 please keep the jokes coming I’m loving the entertainment this channel provides me 😂😂😂

[@hahasimplyz]

@@jsj31313jj By God, Jesus is God

[@jsj31313jj]

@@t0nym0ntana17 Man can preach truth but only the Holy Spirit can impart truth.

[@tracemusic777]

“Everyone of us... is capable of suppressing the truth if it’s inconvenient.” Powerful words there. That’s exactly what the High Priest & Sanhedrin did. With Jesus they suppressed the truth. The truth incarnate. “I am the way, and the TRUTH and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” - John 14:6

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Jesus was on trial for blasphemy, stirring up the people, and criticizing the Jewish authorities while his father in heaven watched with approval.

[@soulfootball2141]

@Paul Morgan bible is the evidence of jesus ..it tells how he came.. how he suffer ..how he died and how he ressurected

[@soulfootball2141]

@Paul Morgan hahaa..all the disciplines worte about him..u dont know that

[@sunlec]

Why didn't God demonstrate His power and condemned us all to hell instead of sending us Jesus..

[@MRakshay-fb2mu]

There is a fiery lake in hell which destroys/kill the soul completely.

[@southernknight9983]

*Why didn't God demonstrate His power* Because, God wants you to have faith in Him, not knowledge of Him. If we knew God was real, we would not behave as we do. We must be trusted in His presence and when not in His presence. God wants us to be family, not just friends or acquaintances. Those who enter Heaven, will be family. Do you want to be part of that divine family? Then you must learn to have faith. Faith is the key, here. Godspeed!

[@victoriacharlesworth7099]

Jacques... that’s powerful 😊✝️

[@My_Lacrimosa]

Same reason he didn't do anything to Hitler Either didn't care to, or couldnt

[@umeshjudah5126]

God gives freedom to men do good and evil, but in the end He will take account of all deeds.

[@gobucs3146]

“And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.”

[@JamesMC04]

Because he was just another lying religious preacher, who could no more work miracles than you or I.

[@victory9285]

What bible verse is this?

[@gobucs3146]

@@JamesMC04 except He performed many, witnessed by many, and has been for centuries. So there’s that. You don’t believe in Him yet you want Him to interfere in everything. You atheists are amazing.

[@gobucs3146]

@@victory9285 Mark 8:12

[@Smile-mk7wg]

@@JamesMC04 you are wrong, He is still doing miracles. if only you could open your mind, and pray for truth. youll see how good and forgiving He is.

[@sherlockhomeless7138]

Just discovered this channel. Wow, it's so deep and full of truth. Not all answers are satisfying, but it's definitely good to see some things from another perspective.

[@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241]

I honestly think futurama has one of the best arguments for God being involved or not. “… being God isn’t easy. If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket.” “Or a guy who burns down a bar for the insurance money.” “Yes, if you make it look like an electrical thing. When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all.”

[@CJ-lr4uq]

Yeah well that's not biblical. For one, there nothing "difficult" for God, so to say it's "not easy being God" is erroneous. Also, God expects us to be fully dependent on Him. "Apart from Him, I can do nothing." That's a good chunk of the entire thesis of Christianity.

[@tez817]

It's not easy being God? Wtf.

[@diphenhydramine6072]

@@CJ-lr4uq That’s not what he meant when he said it’s difficult to be God. He just meant that you have to be very, very precise on how you do things. If man is completely dependent on God, then man won’t do anything for themselves. If man loses hope in God, then man will be left with no morality.

[@diphenhydramine6072]

@@CJ-lr4uq Christianity does also say to exercise our free will. If God does everything for us then we have no free will. When you pray for God to help you, he doesn’t carry you to the things you want, you have to carry yourself, God will just assist you. He is here to make things possible, not to make things impossible for failure.

[@spudmcdougal369]

That was a good episode.

[@SpidermanandJeny]

Frank's last answer about trust in not just belief about him is the key here. If God had showed up in the way that guy was thinking, there'd be no chance for trusting and believing, everyone would be like Thomas who only believed after seeing. Blessed are those who believe and have not seen such physical proof.

[@homewardbound6471]

The better question is:. How did man allow himself to be so evil?

[@vodkacannon]

Fear.

[@bonn9730]

Nice question

[@Imaginathor-1k0]

Because he's weak

[@Avstract23]

Well its happened by the watchers before the flood and then after ? Noah and his kids strayed from God and became evil again ?

[@chiefswife1212]

Created in God's image, and.....

[@willr7849]

I think with free will means we have to suffer the consequences of our actions, God doesn't kill the victim of a drunk driver accident, the drunk driver kills the person as a reaction to his decisions. I think that's what makes Jesus actions into miracles, because God intervened when usually we are forced to suffer the reactions to our freewill. That's not to say God won't intervene now, but I believe he gave us free will and we are responsible for that freewill.

[@iwishtobetexan6060]

Can u guys pray for me? This girl I love might have to move far away in about a month. Please pray that her dad can find a job close by so they can stay. They have to leave because of he needs to get a job. Please pray that he will get a job that can support him and his family so they don't have to move. Please pray for them and me. I feel like I might lose her if she moves.

[@DJSwezzleMusic]

I would pray for you, but praying is a waste of time as it doesn't do anything. God does not exist.

[@iwishtobetexan6060]

@Precious Things yea we've told each other we love each other. We promised to wait for each other too. She hasn't left yet because of delays but maybe next month I'm so certain she will leave. I still haven't stopped praying.

[@iwishtobetexan6060]

@@DJSwezzleMusic so then why are you here watching a video related to the topic of God?

[@DJSwezzleMusic]

@@iwishtobetexan6060 Because I've got the right to do so.

[@iwishtobetexan6060]

@@DJSwezzleMusic you do. I hope you use it wisely.

[@koosvanzyl2605]

He did not do it for his son. He did not do it for Paul, Peter and all his disciples, except for John. Why would he do it for people who do not even believe in His Son.

[@anthonybolton2717]

so they would believe, obviously

[@anthonybolton2717]

@Jose de jesus Arandano faith is gullibility, nothing more, you could believe anything based on faith

[@anar3602]

He knew the end. Hebrews 12:2 - _" . . . for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God"_

[@koosvanzyl2605]

@Jose de jesus Arandano Correct..

[@koosvanzyl2605]

@@anthonybolton2717 Yes some people even believe in the big bang and evolution which requires a LOT of faith, more than believing in God.

[@ryanlisterman1864]

I use the same observation, when someone asks why doesn’t he just make some grandiose display, he has and people still didn’t trust in him.

[@ernestnketiah5447]

We ask for the grandiose display to determine if a God actually and really exist, and not to trust him.

[@defiance1790]

Questions like this should be reframed into “if evil is killing evil, is it good to stop it? ... why would Good stop evil if the nature of evil is to destroy?” There is no way to stop it without wiping it all out completely... and then there would be no human race.

[@TheOne-Aslan]

I like this perspective, its true

[@victorberrones6543]

God could, in all his power, convince the Nazis and Hitler that their actions are immoral. That would destroy the evil without wiping them out

[@johnbrodeur3528]

Don't interrupt your enemy when he's making a mistake!

[@defiance1790]

Victor Berrones is it good to be intrusive into ones mind?

[@saoirserubio536]

Wow. Might want to tone down the raging anti-semitism there, bud. Yikes.

[@edwardreese976]

Always remember world, the cruelest thing God ever allowed or could allow, was also the most loving and caring thing he could ever allow. Or even be the cause of for that matter....the death of his son Jesus the Christ. That is why in the midst of suffering, God says to always keep your eyes towards the cross.

[@mightysun89]

Great response. I also think the scene of God turning away from Jesus, when He was crucified. It's all God's plan, as He love His children.

[@mightysun89]

@Paul Morgan Bible says, the fool says in his heart, that there's no God. Look around you, who created all these. You such ignorant person

[@jenniferannecchini5216]

Frank Turek answers the hardest questions. Amazing 👏

[@BibBubDude]

“Who am I to merit God, owing me anything? “

[@bryanjohnson3082]

Seems like the same old questions that you've given answers to 100 times. If people want to reject Christ they will never listen.

[@midlander4]

And the same evasive non-answers from Turek, always "because god".

[@LivingMyBestAlways]

@Bryan Johnson This platform and all others on YT are just for monetary gain. Who knows if they pay those people to ask dumb questions. The way I look at it it’s either one believe in the CREATOR or not regardless of what’s happening in the world. We are going to die. For me I put all my trust in the ALMIGHTY with my whole being. And if my beliefs are in vain it’s okay because I’ll die one day and I’ll just cease to exist. But if atheist are wrong then what?

[@midlander4]

@@LivingMyBestAlways it's great that you've used CAPITAL LETTERS to make your god look really important. And have you ever Googled Pascal's Wager?

[@derekallen4568]

@@LivingMyBestAlways and what if you're worshipping the wrong god?

[@finnthedog5321]

Like how you reject all the 5000+ religions? If your belief is the basis that Christianity is the correct religion, keep in mind that the other people of the different religion has the same basis. What makes your religion special?

[@kostasz7z]

Why God doesnt intervene ? * The Messiah already paid the fine. We re already saved. * It would go against the FREE WILL of some people. * This world is TEMPORARY and every injustice will be rectified in the ETERNAL AFTERLIFE. * Ripple effect (which in my opinion is the least of the reasons). * So Atheists can have their Atheism. * HE doesnt have to. * HE has reasons we cant know about.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

If your god is already present everywhere where does the intervention come from?

[@dudester873]

Yup, evil perps got to have their free will just as much as good peeps. The 100 or so years that we live is a drop-in-the-bucket to the everlasting life thereafter; this is a contest of fear, trust, faith, and love in Jesus our Lord and saviour.

[@carlsonpakapala]

I think in this specific case the argument of the free will is the best because all the nations had the opportunity to either ally or to go against the nazi movement... and as history proved, the nazi weren’t alone, they had many allies around the world that all knew what was being done in these concentration camps. It’s not that God didn’t act, it’s that human when face with the truth often chose to ignore and suppress it

[@sogmalukem2745]

As insensitive as this might sound, Israel might not of become a nation again in 1948 (which fulfilled prophecy) if it wasn't for the holocaust and WWII. God knows the full picture and executes his plan with perfect timing. Prophecy will be fulfilled in the manner that God sees fit.

[@philipmacarilay7136]

it was the Tender hand of Jehovah

[@Im_Just_Saying_87]

@@philipmacarilay7136 Jehovah is a misnomer of God. The jehovah's witnesses saw the spelling of yhwh, God's name. But the vowels written within the name were of Adonai, so "a" "o" "a". The name was so precious that Jews changed it to be read as something else whenever it was read in a text. When the jehovah's witnesses found that spelling with the adonai vowels, they read it as yehowah. Various language influence of yehowah changed the "y" to "j" and the "w" to "v". Thus, yhwh became yehowah, which became jehovah. It's a false name and means nothing.

[@MR-yx8hj]

So the atrocities done are okay because a country was formed afterward?

[@RepentorPerish77]

@@MR-yx8hj well a lot of people believe that abortion is ok b/c of the selfishness of the parents not wanting to accept responsibility for their actions....they’re ok with that but not ok with what God allowed to fulfill biblical prophecy...God allows trials to bring us closer to him. The church grew the most under extreme persecution..God is ultimately more concerned with your spiritual well-being over your physical well being

[@adrienneb.4710]

I concur. It's obvious if you consider what came after. Even just a hundred years ago, the nation of Israel reforming was seemingly impossible. God does not want us to suffer but He has a perspective of the future that we don't. He allowed His Son to be beaten, mocked, and executed in an agonising way to bring about His perspective of the future, where there would be a way to redeem sinners who trust in Him. Suffering is not His goal but it is something that happens in this fallen world and sometimes must happen for a necessary course of events to take place.

[@alyssafreeman6006]

Ugh that cuts right to the heart..."God does not want us to believe in him He wants us to trust him," that is so true, Lord have mercy on our souls and teach us to not only believe you but trust you, all of us have trust in our minds and hearts that we have not given over to you, may God In his might show us the way to turn those things over to him and may God in his might work the knowledge and wisdom he has given us into our hearts and transform us.

[@richardgregory3684]

Trust is earned. Why should we trust god when he has given us no reason or evidence to do so?

[@alyssafreeman6006]

@@richardgregory3684 He did earn our trust, in humility when he didn't have to, and he gave us evidence; he gave us Jesus. My suggestion; ask God to show you the way and see what he does.

[@richardgregory3684]

@@alyssafreeman6006 _He did earn our trust, in humility when he didn't have to, and he gave us evidence; he gave us Jesus_ Nope, sorry, a story from your religion is not evidence for your religion! The bibl eis not evidence for the bible! There is very little evidence that there was a Jesus - and absolutely none at all for the claims Christiniaty makes about him _My suggestion; ask God to show you the way and see what he does_ Would that be interfering in my free will, you know, the excuse Christians make when god does nothing whilst a busload of kids burns to death in a crash?

[@alyssafreeman6006]

@@richardgregory3684 you seem like a very bitter person

[@japexican007]

1. Flesh cannot inherit the kingdom, simple as that.

[@johnmakovec5698]

King's son could. He is not flesh and blood?

[@zhihanlim3500]

@@johnmakovec5698 he was human and God at same time, he did not have the sin nature from Adam

[@johnmakovec5698]

@@zhihanlim3500 Venceslav IV. was God? Thank you, I didn't know that.

[@Kaynmiya]

Paul Morgan did you witness it? If not you are believing by using faith... in the wrong thing lol.

[@MonkeyDLuffy-py9un]

John Makovec lol he *is* human and god not “was”

[@gloriapichardo3310]

"God doesn't want us to believe in Him! He wants us to trust Him!"

[@kyriekayhalford3501]

Trust him to do what ? Take care of us when we need help ? Watch over our children ? Keep our parents safe ? Trust him when he isn’t helping anyone screaming for help ? Or trust that we will have after life ? Why doesn’t he intervene HERE with his followers , his loving children who beg for help ?

[@benedibrava]

Why aren’t you at abortion clinic condemning Holocaust of unborn babies? That’s the question that should been made to the person making that question.

[@Jerrymc1975]

If my dad allowed a thief to break in the house rape and kill my sister in front of all of us while he held a gun to protect us. Would I trust my dad or have faith in him to make the right decisions to protect us any longer?

[@goodvibezinChrist]

Thank you for allowing God to use you as one of his vessels.

[@anar3602]

God is good

[@anar3602]

@Paul Morgan What Bible are you reading? You do know the Bible is intentionally blocked without the decoder right (Matt 16:17)? You can't read it without Him (Luke 2:26 & 10:22, Jn 16:13-15, 1 Cor 2:10). Otherwise it's just foolishness (1 Cor 1:18). Yes, YHWH is good. I don't "think" that the God of the Bible is good, I know He's good from experience. As a born-again Christian I get to encounter Him daily. He's literally an acknowledgment away (Prov 3:6). He's literally Love itself (1 Jn 4:8). It's hard not to be good when He's love itself.

[@AGGSab]

Paul Morgan why isn’t your house locked 24/7 anyway? You’re telling me the event to get you to lock your house at night would be a believer moving in next door? What’s wrong with you?

[@jjevans1693]

Lol lol lol come people grow up.

[@enki354]

You mean Vassals.

[@aphroditeschild6805]

I remember watching a video of a holocaust survivor and a question was, “do you still believe in God” he replied “of course I do because people put me through this, not God.”

[@Nicolos117]

Yes, it also shows the evil in the world.

[@jjevans1693]

Really delusional people. Please grow up

[@enki354]

Boy that's a gr8 answer.

[@haitaelpastor976]

Yet God let them do that.

[@kevinserrano7187]

I don’t give myself headaches anymore when I came to the conclusion that God is NEUTRAL. Once you see it like that then you can’t stress about “why didn’t he do this?” “why does he let THIS happen?” the greatest gift god gave us was free will. he lets us do whatever we want with that gift. He gave us that and stepped back and watches.

[@NotNormal654]

It’s because we abandoned God and broke all of his rules. God tried to save us during the events of the Bible and we complained. He then sent his son to save us and we nailed him on a cross and let him bleed to death. Why would God pay attention to the people who abandoned him? Rest in peace to the innocent Jewish souls that got murdered by evil.

[@randolphlhembaguio3386]

Deuteronomy 29:29 29 The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law

[@SGOV86]

Amen!

[@jeremyhinken3365]

God gives everyone what they want: [25] Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. Matthew 27:25 Be careful what you ask for.

[@jettdaniel8043]

What a great answer! So true! We cannot forget the fact the Jewish nation is in serious rebellion against God; they denied him and continue to reject him as a whole. Why would God defend them? All throughout the OT, God protected his people when they loved him and were obedient towards him....when they rejected him and went astray then God's judgment fell upon them...simple as that.

[@jeremyhinken3365]

@@jettdaniel8043 Amen

[@jomart9157]

If you believe in God death is not the end it's a step in our journey to God.

[@JustAworm82]

Why is it so hard for people to understand that God will not take away our free will, no matter the tragedy that may ensue.

[@bobcatdrums]

And I will harden Pharaoh's heart so he will follow them, and I will get glory over Pharoah and all his host, and the Egyptians shall know I am Lord. And they did so Exodus 14:4

[@michaelchenevert3363]

The final comments from Dr. Turek are the most difficult to embrace as a human being. We really have no idea what wickedness we are capable of until we are put in that horrid position to make such treacherous choices. Yikes!

[@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348]

Micheal Chenevert, The question asked should have been how come the Holocaust isn’t in the Bible. Also why the Jews currently in the Land aren’t afflicted by any of the curses that God said he would inflict on Jews? Something doesn’t smell right.

[@derikbarbieri8753]

@@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348 in due time, every Word will be fulfilled and I pray we are sealed when the tribulations come because even one of the tribulations would be enough to make me wanna die

[@attainingknowledgeoftruth8348]

@@derikbarbieri8753, I think you misunderstood. I was asking a simple question. Where in the Bible is there prophecy written about the Holocaust. In the people currently in the Land are who they proclaim to be, shouldn’t there be written prophesy in the Bible about the Holocaust?

[@theone5022]

I think what’s happening is that after Jesus went to Heaven and after the book of Revelations he decided that he did not want to interfere in worldly affairs until the events in Revelation start to take place. So he didn’t interfere in human affairs for that reason. He will eventually demonstrate his power but it isn’t the right time for that just yet.

[@theobserver3753]

I think God's priority is bringing us with him in the afterlife. The world may be really awful but we'll have an eternity waiting for us if we just follow him.

[@MrBimirud]

I disagree with the student’s claim that the whole world would have believed, had God stopped the Holocaust. In fact, some people hate God and would never worship him, no matter how many big, public miracles he did. There are many examples of this in the Bible.

[@alphamegaradio]

"And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. The god of this age [Satan] has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. Now we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this surpassingly great power is from God and not from us. We are hard pressed on all sides, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed." - (2 Cor. 4:3-4, 7-9)

[@GabrielFlies]

If God ‘intervening’ meant wiping us all out (because we are all sinful), then would you be ok with that? Just another way to look at it for you

[@sad-pt7xd]

Nope, I don’t want God to do another mass murder just because he can’t solve the problem another way

[@t0nym0ntana17]

Absolutely 👍 it’s what this earth needs

[@lesliewilson1570]

The battle of good and evil must be played out right to the bitter end,or how else will God judge the world.

[@brianlinville439]

Sounds like, well plausible almost until you realize God created all beings , in his All Knowing Foresight and Knowledge, like all beings. Now if "evil beings ' exist, well, who made 'em? Now it seems more likely the term 'evil' is synonym for "mental"(probs.)Because all bad actions come from 'wrong mental thoughts first, so people go mental, not 'evil'.

[@brianlinville439]

@Ward Jackson -good vs evil/ (God vs d'evil) sound familiar?

[@MD-jp5oc]

God did send angels, he called them The Allied Forces!

[@justingreene2371]

Guy F well actually their governments sent them, and god sent the “angels” a little to late wouldn’t you think?

[@Moose7897]

Daddy Endya thank you, open your eyes people

[@enlightenedbytheholyspirit3540]

Even if he had sent his angels they still wouldn't believe....

[@fredericotito9479]

its called Sowjetunion that sacrificed more than 28 Million People in that war and your good Americans came very late to the war as the Sowjetunion defeated the Germans and attacked them back. And surely the good Angely Americans wanted not to give the Russians the control over Europe and so they attacked germany later too..... oh wait i mean they attacked germany because they wanted to help our russian brothers........ hm sure. And if the war between russia and germany wouldnt had happened the german troops would easily defeat the americans and the rest of the world just because of the fact that they couldnt even fight little kids and non germans at the DDAY but the Russians killed before that the best Tanks and Soldiers that were on the Ostfront (Tankbattle of Kursk or Prohorovka ) and thats why your allied forces would have a realy bad time if the german reich hadnt began war against russia. (my respect for every soldier in 2WW but to call one force angels is just wrong.)

[@rachelh1720]

I would argue that God did work miracles during the holocaust- however small- in the saving of some because there were people who honored him and loved those being persecuted that they chose to help save them even at risk to their own lives

[@joonnkoh2368]

Jesus bless everyone 🙏🏽

[@calebeustaceburgess5508]

He doesn't want us to believe He exists, He wants us to love Him.

[@SGOV86]

How can we love Him if we don't believe God exists? Buy the way in Hebrews chapter 11:6 it is written that who so ever comes to God must belief that He is (meaning He is existing)....

[@calebeustaceburgess5508]

@@SGOV86 Are you suggesting that one can love something that doesn't exist? The point I'm making is that there are people that believe that He exists but don't love Him. Remember what the greatest command is, to love God with all your heart, soul and spirit. That's found in Matthew 22: 37, which I am sure you are familiar with. So yes, you have to believe He exists but believing He exists isn't enough. Satanists believe God exists but they serve a different master.

[@SGOV86]

@@calebeustaceburgess5508 you cannot love God and not believing He exist. You can believing God exist but not love Him.

[@calebeustaceburgess5508]

@@SGOV86 that is exactly what I am saying.

[@JamesMC04]

Then God is the Most Abusive of all fathers, given the behaviour attributed to this god. How very appropriate that this god is represented by scoundrels who molest minors.

[@isimaiguisi1229]

God does want us to believe in Him, in order to trust him. Didn’t like how Frank phrased that, but I understood what he meant. 5:33

[@MugsyBogues]

Can u explain what he meant? I might have misinterpreted it

[@isimaiguisi1229]

@@MugsyBogues John 3:16

[@zipzorp8858]

I keep asking, when it comes to the existence of God, when one person claims God is real and another claims God isn't real, why not just go directly to God and end the debate once and for all?

[@1206chaos]

Man that was heavy. Seeing a real serious side to Frank.

[@JulianCaesaro]

The importance of remembering that every human has the capability of showing themselves to be absolutely evil, even if only based upon their own actions. 🤔 It reminds me of Genesis 5-6 where it states that people’s thoughts are continually towards evil, and then I started slowly realizing that the Bible never says otherwise. So from the time of Noah until now, human thoughts are continually towards evil, and the only way to do otherwise is to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior and to take on a mind like His, because we’ll be bombarded with our own sinful/evil thoughts & ways. 🧐

[@KT-wr2ow]

I ask a bigger question. God is all knowing, so he knew how evil we would become (before and after the flood), *then why create us in the first place?* He knew that there would be more evil than good in this world, yet he still created humanity. *Why?* There is nothing that we have done, or can do, here on this earth, that he cannot do himself in a myriad of other ways. *So why create us and force us to go through all this pain and suffering?*

[@josephscala6707]

Great question. Religion will provide the answer to it.

[@stephenkaake7016]

God only knows Possible Futures, the future is not Set in Stone. No one Enters this world without consent. this is not our home. God allows a certain amount of Evil so we can see how bad it is. so we will Choose Good, not just because its his Will, but because its what will make us happy in the long term here and eternity in Paradise. I would suggest Getting to know the Lord, he will instruct you on the ways

[@KT-wr2ow]

@@stephenkaake7016 Regardless, millions have endured terrible excruciating pain (both emotional and physical) and then died. For what? What was the point of their life?

[@stephenkaake7016]

@@KT-wr2ow If you knew God, then you would know his will, and its Not for Any Evil to be Done at all. 100% Perfect Goodness, but Humans, due to ignorance, have chosen poorly, God has Given us a way back to Purity Thru the person Jesus. Jesus said "Knock and it shall be opened" The Purpose of Life is to Grow Spiritually Toward God and His Divine Attributes, Love, Kindness, Honor, Reason,Dedication, Courage,a few examples. But people Reject those to Become evil, Thus Causing Disorder, Pain and Suffering. Jesus said to 'Create Heaven on Earth, Thy will be Done'. All Good things = God, all bad things = People Making Bad decisions. Including Entering this World-Leaving Paradise- To Suffer and Die. Not God's Will. God is like a Coach who Wants people to Excel/Make best out of their situation, Satan is like a saboteur who wants people to fail/Blame God and end up in Hell. Please Get to know the Lord!

[@markh1011]

This is a pretty poor response. He very quickly admits he can't answer the question then launches into the same go-to diversion about not being able to have a standard without god..... which he cannot support.

[@peterguyot9724]

How many times has God intervened and stopped evil happening in people's lives yet those people might well be unaware of His intervention at the time.

[@yanmew]

EARTHLY WEALTH AND PLEASURES QUICKLY TURN TO DUST TRUST IN THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

[@LivingMyBestAlways]

@Paul Morgan It’s non of my money so I don’t give a hoot. I didn’t spend one time to live in truth love and Happiness it was given to me free of charge no book that these people have written can make anyone live upright it has to come from within us. The Truth of the ALMIGHTY that dwell in my heart and mind is my motivation my headship my director my protector my provider. I don’t need a building that they call a church to save me because it won’t work. That’s why so many Christians are not on one accord everyone has there own interpretation of the Bible.

[@jackmyers2359]

Have you given ALL of your wealth away and follow your savior like your book says? Hypocrite.

[@ericscaillet2232]

@@jackmyers2359 unless you are really in the company of God this statement is self defeating and a lie to your well being.😒

[@AD-sx7ix]

It appears that God was more present and visible in the Old Testament, yet you still had millions of people worshipping a golden calf. It could be that God choosing to be more visible today wouldn’t change anything/make things worse....

[@festushaggen2563]

@Matt Smith The same could be said about you.

[@AD-sx7ix]

Matt Smith You do realize that God has done many things to show us his glory so that we might believe in Him? Most notably among other things is the passion & resurrection of Christ..... so you can’t say that he doesn’t want to convince his creation that He exists and wants to make himself more visible. As a Catholic I can tell you that there have been dozens of apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary across history, and unexplainable miracles associated with it (particularly our lady of Fatima, with the miracle of the sun). YET DESPITE ALL OF THIS we still have people who choose not to believe. So again, it could be that God making himself more visible to you today is not the best way to bring you to Christ... because you in your ignorance will just choose not to believe anyway

[@AD-sx7ix]

Matt Smith The only way for God to convince you that He exists and to prove His love for you is if you first set aside your pride

[@victorywinner3845]

I beg to differ if God reveals himself to us now for the whole world to see everyone would straighten up there would be no Room for doubt any more they will believe that he exists if he showed himself to us And people will act better they will be too afraid to sin against God knowing that he is real and that they saw him with their own eyes....

[@stephenwright133]

Essentially the answer given is no one knows why. While alive people can and will do anything/everything to each other and the only thing that stops it are other people.

[@PracticalBibleStudies]

*The real answer to the problem of Evil:* No one is without sin and deserves to die and burn in hell. The beautiful grace of God allows many people to be saved despite their sin. Only one perfect person has ever had something bad happen to them. That was Christ Jesus.

[@christinarodgers5929]

Doesn’t Scripture say that when we come to God we must believe He exists and He’s a rewarder of those who diligently seek him?? He does want us to believe in Him as well as to trust Him otherwise what good does it do to have faith in the first place?

[@megagrey]

Excuses excuses excuses. Constant, imperious bragging about how their god is so powerful and just, the source of justice even. But when there's a situation where its power is not demonstrated when intervention is clearly warranted, nothing but endless excuses.

[@tez817]

Facts

[@megagrey]

@@tez817 Indeed, it is a fact Christian fanwanking apologists can offer nothing but excuses.

[@harsesishoktar9386]

Not just the fact that they died but how they died is what bothers me.

[@ethanhuntakabobturner4285]

I haven't really thought about the holocaust specifically in relation to God's intervention of human events or listened to the video yet but my immediate thought is that he did intervene through the Allies. I'm sure it could have been way worse not only for the jews but also the rest of the world.

[@BScott7220]

“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.” - found carved on the walls of a concentration camp cell during WWII by a Jewish prisoner.

[@victorywinner3845]

What does that even mean he will have to beg my forgiveness??

[@Kman.]

@@victorywinner3845 I'm thinking that the person thinks God failed them, and that the person will not forgive God for allowing such. Either way, it's understandable that pain and suffering causes each of us to act/react differently. You have to u/stand though, that the Jewish people rejected the Messiah, Jesus. Then read of Polycarp who said when he faced being burned at the stake, “Fourscore and six years have I served him, and he has never done me injury; how then can I now blaspheme my King and savior?”

[@victorywinner3845]

@@Kman. ok thanks.The feeling of death at hand with seconds to live must be horrific...and to die knowing you never believed in JESUS Christ is even worse...How anyone can not believe GOD cant have a son when he's responsible for the CREATION OF EVERYTHING is shocking and mindboggling...

[@ericscaillet2232]

All replies here are insulting to the memories of that person who wrotte that down,let alone the way the world is presently.😒

[@guillermoviramontes851]

Kman riiight.... so “believe in me or I will mass murder you” that sounds very compassionate from a loving god who’s always willing to grant you the chance to accept him. Either way, why would god specifically kill the Jewish population and not a different religion group? It doesn’t add up

[@Mark-cd2wf]

Jesus on the cross asked “Why?” and never got an answer. Are we better than He is?

[@vichosford]

Jesus was quoting Psalms 22 when he asked "why?" Let us understand that in those times, the Hebrew Bible was not divided by chapters or verses. Therefore, when someone wanted a book to be read, the person had to say the first sentence of that particular scroll. That's why Jesus shouted "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" The Jewish audience knew exactly what Psalms He was referring to. And with that, Jesus was telling them that that prophecy was being fulfilled before their eyes.

[@aaronmonroe7932]

When you define God, it's like drawing a red line. When that red line is crossed and nothing happens, you honestly have no choice but to ask yourself why.

[@1godonlyone119]

Without God, genocide could not be objectively wrong.

[@nakkadu]

Why is god not capable of revealing himself to me?

[@LahSouljacutzup]

If im a billionaire and i meet a real pretty woman and i want her to marry me what should i do ? Should i keep from her that I'm a billionaire for a little while to see if she really will love me or should i shower her in diamonds, nice restaurants, and everything she wants ? If i show her everything i have she may not marry me because she truly loves me but because of what i have. In a similar sense God wants us to love Him, maybe if he reveals his infinite glory we would not TRULY love him but would just accept him because of everything that he is. In a way overriding our free will. If he does exist in all of his infinite attributes, love, mercy, goodness, beauty, holiness...

[@nakkadu]

@@LahSouljacutzup so are you suggesting there's a reason to believe in God and love god that he hasn't revealed to you?

[@annaxx1323]

Nakadu did you not watch the full video? He wants us to trust in him not believe in him...i’m sorry brother but the truth is there’s no physical evidence God is real but if the faith/truth is in him then you’ll never have any doubts about the Heavenly Father🙏🏽

[@LahSouljacutzup]

@@nakkadu Are you saying that we've seen every bit of God? Because the Bible says that no man can see God in his infinite glory..

[@nakkadu]

@@LahSouljacutzup No I'm not saying that....I didn't say anything close to that.

[@anthonythistle1465]

One of the most profound experiences of my life was when I realised if given the opportunity and the resources I would be like Hitler or worse. Evil runs through all of us, just as the scriptures say and has been shown to be true throughout history. We foolishly think we have grown up or matured and are different to our forefathers but when reality sets in we haven't. I realised I needed God to transform me to be who I was suppose to be and not who people were saying I should be. I still need Him and always will because I am completely lost without Him.

[@kyriekayhalford3501]

it’s been proven for centuries he won’t help you here… are you meaning for the afterlife only ?

[@mwamussa]

@@kyriekayhalford3501 they are all brainwashed and delusional.

[@chiefswife1212]

Created in God's image.....

[@claraisnotmebutilikeit]

​@@kyriekayhalford3501 Phillipians 1 : 21 For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. Believers don't fear death, it's a gain to die in His name.

[@katherineirons6245]

Gods thinking is not human thinking same with his plans and his timing! Our father, God is a merciful God! Thank you God in the name of Jesus Christ!❤️⚔️👑🛡

[@c_2017]

CS Lewis made an interesting point in Screwtape Letters, and I think it holds consistent with Frank’s views and his explanation of observational perspective. Biblical people were more likely to believe through grand acts of mysticism. And any onlooker/observer/author might explain any unexplainable instance as divine intervention and call it supernatural. And I’m not saying it isn’t. Today, we are more likely to overanalyze, rationalize, etc. anything that we see and dismiss the notion of supernatural intervention. Take the Holocaust - a soldier survives a battle, gun fire, mortar fire, grenades, ears ringing, head pounding, and yet he still hears a whisper to check through the tree line and discover a concentration camp. I call it intervention, some may say he’s checking his surroundings. Biblical peoples might answer with “speak Lord, Your servant is listening,” we might say “what was that?” and walk towards the tree line.

[@jayaseto]

2:30 “let me say something” hahaha so funny

[@robertlukacs4954]

What

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Get delivered develop a personal relationship with Christ the Savior. Romans 10:9 1 John 1:9

[@ronaller5209]

@Paul Morgan John 3:16 Believe and be saved. The first and most obvious bearing of this verse upon our lives is this: believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and Him alone and at that moment you will be saved. Accept the free gift of eternal life. Give up trying to be saved on the basis of good works, reformation, commitment, promises, sacraments and the like. Rely solely on the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross. Secondly, be sure rest in your eternal life. Take God at His Word. Don't look to your fallible works for assurance. Look to your infallible Savior. As the old gospel hymn says, "Whosoever surely meaneth me." Once we trust in Jesus Christ we have eternal life. We don't get it when we die. We get it when we believe in Him. Thirdly, in your personal study of Scripture remember the four words of John 3:16,"whoever believes in Him," Whenever you read in a passage that someone believed in Jesus Christ vou can know that they have eternal salvation. I am amazed how many commentators and Bible expositors will take a passage that clearly says that someone believed in Jesus Christ and say that the person didn't really believe. This is commonly done with Luke 8:13; John 2:23; 8:30-31; 12:42: and Acts 8:5,12-13. If the Scriptures say that someone believed in Jesus Christ then they did. Remember, John 3:16 says whoever. Unbelievers do not believe in Christ. Only believers believe. Share it. Finally, share the message of John 3:16 with others-with neighbors, coworkers, relatives, schoolmates, and strangers. Tell them the wondrous story. Tell them that whoever means whoever.

[@ronaller5209]

@Paul Morgan Paul saving faith means believing in the Lord Jesus Christ for eternal life (cf 1 Tim 1:16). Nothing else is saving faith. Not only is believing for everlasting life enough, it is the only way to have everlasting life. Jesus guarantees everlasting life to all who simply believe in Him for it with no strings attached. DO YOU BELIEVE THIS? The salvation obtained by faith plus works is not soteriological entrance into heaven. Rather it is a salvation of "brethren" (regenerate believers) from the temporal, psychological, spiritual, or possible physical consequences (sin unto death) of a non-working faith resulting in a negative assessment at the Judgement seat of Christ. It's imperative not to confuse the "Judgement Seat of Christ" with the "Great White Throne Judgement, the latter is for non-believers and if you believe the first paragraph Paul you have just become a "Child of God" and will surely enter His KIngdom. All The Glory to God

[@ronaller5209]

@Paul Morgan Paul Salvation is God’s free grace-gift to each believer: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast” (Eph 2:8-9).[1] Jesus already has paid for it in full. The only requirement for receiving forgiveness and eternal life is to believe in Christ. This is clearly based on Scripture, not on personal experience. In about 115 NT passages, the salvation of a sinner is declared to depend only upon believing, and in about 35 passages to depend on faith, which is a synonym for believing.[2] Any addition to believing is anathema to God. The divine message is not “believe and pray,” “believe and confess sin,” “believe and be baptized,” “believe and repent,” or “believe and make restitution.” These added requirements have appropriate meanings in the Scriptures, but if they were essential to salvation they would never be omitted from any passage where the way to be saved is stated. (E.g., see Gal 3:22; John 1:12; 3:15-16, 18, 36; 5:24; 6:40, 47; Acts 16:31; Rom 1:16; 3:22-23; 4:24-25; 6:23). Salvation is unconditional, meaning it cannot be earned by merit or denied because of demerit. And the moment one believes, this gift includes redemption, reconciliation, forgiveness, regeneration, justification, perfection, and glorification. This work of God is so perfect that it lasts forever (John 5:24; 10:28-29; Rom 8:1). Christ offered assurance of this when He said, “All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out” (John 6:37). Later He said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand” (John 10:27-28).[3] Where there is a lack of assurance there is usually an impression that so long as one’s daily life is imperfect, it is unreasonable to do any more than hope for God’s mercy. No conviction of assurance can grow where the mind is still wondering whether it has really believed in a saving way. God saves us in spite of our unworthiness and sins and keeps us saved for all eternity, because of the Cross. His divine provision calls for no payments to be made on the “installment plan.” Believers are sealed by the Holy Spirit (Eph 1:13; 4:30; 2 Cor 1:22). Shalom

[@ronaller5209]

@Paul Morgan What is the default human condition? (the ‘spiritual state’ of every human being) Condemnation?. John’s Gospel and the book of Revelation declare the Human ‘default’ Spiritual Condition with clarity and sobriety. POSITIVELY, anyone who believes in Jesus, The Christ will NOT PERISH. John 3:18 defines the ‘default’ state with precision - “…he who does not believe in condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” It is nearly impossible to ‘misunderstand’ that declaration of our LORD JESUS in His conversation with Nicodemus. Then in John 5:24-29 another set of declarations are made by our Lord that further inform and clarify the human spiritual condition. 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in Himself, so He has granted the Son to have life in Himself, 27 and has given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth-those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation. 30 I can of Myself do nothing. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will but the will of the Father who sent Me.”. Of course, Revelation 20 indicates that all of those who are part of the “2ND Resurrection” (which is the Resurrection of ‘CONDEMNATION” of John 5:29) will be raised at the end of time - AFTER the Millennial Kingdom is complete - and will all be sentenced to the LAKE OF FIRE forever and ever - and given ‘differing degrees of judgment’ according to their works as recorded in the “BOOKS” (Revelation 20:11-15). Lake of Fire - THUS the Lake of Fire is the permanent and final disposition of Satan/Lucifer, all the fallen angels/demons, the Beast/Antichrist, the False Prophet, and all UNBELIEVERS of ALL OF THE AGES OF HUMAN HISTORY Shalom

[@ronaller5209]

@Paul Morgan Human works/effort is absolutely WORTHLESS in this regard. There is NO VALUE to human works/effort to pay the penalty for sin. ONLY JESUS THE CHRIST COULD DO THAT. ONLY HE WAS WITHOUT SIN and ONLY HE COULD PAY THE PRICE. And He did just that. To even suggest that there might be some ‘salvific value’ to human effort/works is a tremendous insult to the person and the work of Jesus, the Christ. As Paul argued in Galatians 2:21, “I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” Paul’s point is that if man could somehow by ‘working’ achieve his own righteousness, Christ would never have needed to die!!!. AND besides that, the SCRIPTURES TEACH - AMPLY - that there is NO SAVING BENEFIT in HUMAN WORKS. In fact, they are as “filthy rags” if anyone would try to use human works as a basis for eternal salvation.. THAT IS NOT TO SAY WORKS are of NO VALUE/IMPORTANCE WHATSOEVER. They are EXTREMELY important - but they have NO PLACE in gaining Eternal Salvation.

[@MrYodaman90]

God is not just some genie in a lamp. You can't just make wishes (However noble they are.) and expect them to come true. And the fact is, God did demonstrate his power. He did so by working through the brave men who fought and died, to ensure that this evil would be destroyed. And it was! Good triumphed over evil! And people were made relevant in doing so. Otherwise we would only be spectators...

[@tevinjordan6720]

It's so weird that people always blame God for what he didn't do and not satan for what he is doing.

[@somerandom3247]

The same reason he hasn't intervened in any other matters, because god does not exist.

[@stevenhamilton801]

It's been on my heart of late, Gods great patience. Why doesn't He just kill us after our 1st sin, why is He so patient. Yet we complain that He allows us to continue in sin, thank Him for that, He gives us ample opportunity to come to Him. I look at the fruits of the Spirit and I realize thays who God is and He gives us His attributes

[@joshuahernandez1567]

Steven Hamilton Probably cause our first “sin” we do is done as a kid without understanding of consequences, rather it’s done out of self preservation. Which is a normal part of life. Also we are born in sin so your point is a little unclear. And this isn’t even touching the deaths or new borns, early or late term abortions Not hating on you but If you would take a criticism from a stranger, I’d ask you re state your comment. Just so it’s more clear to those who are questioning or to those that would challenge it.

[@stevenhamilton801]

@@joshuahernandez1567 interesting, I suppose I would assume common sense on the reader's end as to the age of accountability and the overall point of the comment. I'm not a "professional " commenter so I just wanted to speak my heart. Thanks for the criticism

[@joshuahernandez1567]

Steven Hamilton Oh I see, well at least fix the typos lol

[@stevenhamilton801]

@@joshuahernandez1567 lol, fair enough...you know these cell phones! Plus I'm 52, the younger generation are just so much more efficient on the device lol

[@gazzam6456]

Why doesn’t God zap us when we sin? God is not in the killing business, He is in the saving business. He is a God of grace, mercy and forgiveness. In Ezekiel 33:11 Say to them: As I live, says the Lord Jehovah, I have no delight in the death of the wicked, except in the turning of the wicked from his way, and so to live. Turn, turn from your evil ways; for why will you die, O house of Israel? God doesn’t want anyone to be lost. But when you read Israel’s history you find that they went into idolatry time and time again. God could not save them because they had shut Him out , rejected Jesus their Messiah. So God had to withdraw His protection and allow the curses that they put on themselves when the divorced themselves from the Theocracy when they said at Jesus’ trial: “we have no King but Caesar!” That was a lie because The Messiah was their King. Also they put a curse upon themselves:: “Let His blood be upon us and our children’s children.” John 19:15; Matthew 27:25. You wonder why God does not intervene when we sin? It’s because society has cut Him out of our lives. They have banned him from our schools, our universities, our governments, the media etc . . . But God loves us still and He offers us His Grace. We all have the free choice to accept it or not. God cannot save us if we refused to be saved.

[@tHEdANKcRUSADER]

I went to church the other day to free my soul from sin. I was looking for the preacher, but the preacher wasn’t in. The Sexton there assured me that there’d be no use waiting. “The preacher’s gone away,” he said, “to do some demonstrating.” “What I want to know,” I said, “and I will make myself quite clear: While they’re all demonstrating, who’s running things down here? Who’s taking care of sinners, who’s leading us in prayer? Who’s feeding all the lost sheep that wander by right here? Who’s baptising babies, and another thing,” I said, “Who’s looking out for the sick folk, and blessing all the dead?” The Sexton was a wise old man, with a twinkle in his eye. He looked at me and scratched his head, and this was his reply: “Son, what I’m going to say to you might strike you kind of odd, But since no one’s here to help you, put your question up to God.” So I asked Him all those things last night, when I bent my knee in prayer: “O Lord,” I prayed, “please tell me, who’s running things down here?” The Lord sent down an Angel, it was enough to make me sob, When the Angel said: “The Devil! And he’s doing a darn good job!”

[@cameronvinson]

What wrong should be stopped and what wrong shouldn't be stopped.

[@ezrandre]

Remember what they shouted: Crucify him,crucify him!

[@richardnixon9324]

“His blood be on us and our children” and it is, to this day

[@irishbuck5848]

Heaven and hell is real. Be ready !! Jesus is coming back soon.

[@kody9543]

irish buck very real

[@irishbuck5848]

@@kody9543 Absolutely

[@luigilol]

Thank you

[@dannyc9903]

Your god says love me, worship me or you will go to hell, Fear and blackmail is what religions thrive on! Your his perfect client!

[@almondwater9583]

Danny C stoppppppp

[@phaxad]

Walk by faith not by sight.

[@AndyLouis2506]

In the eyes of a God fearing person, God cannot lose. If someone prays and their prayer is 'answered' it proofs God is good, if God doesn't answer a prayer it's because a) YOU did not pray hard enough, b) YOU did not have enough faith, or c) God works in mysteries way.

[@bobcatdrums]

God's will be done. Not mans or yours or mine

[@randallanderson1632]

Two things come to mind in the first 2 minutes of the video concerning what Frank Turek said. First, a lack of knowledge concerning God's actions, or in many cases, inactions, can't logically be explained away by saying "I am finite he is infinite." That reasoning translates into I'm not going to think about it . And to those who are indecisive concerning an acceptance of God, it doesn't help to give God a free pass. Secondly, Turek said "the reason we know that the Holocaust was immoral is because we know that people are inherently valuable, not because I think people are valuable, but because they are in the likeness of God." Actually people have been seen as inherently valuable since the advent of the human species. That is why meaningless deaths have found condemnation since the caveman.

[@jerrodlopes186]

Cavemen corroborated this in their written histories? One moment you tout reason and logic, the next you make grand assumptions, lies and a massive leap of faith that no one will notice. Use that faith to see God.

[@randallanderson1632]

@@jerrodlopes186 The reason you and I exist and are alive today is because early man knew that needlessly killing others was seen as unacceptable behavior.

[@dkodesh]

Jerrod Lopes everything from the moral standards is written in our heart. We know as humans that killing each other is wrong and are against that action. but people tend to lose their ways and go against the moral law and create evil.

[@GSpotter63]

@@randallanderson1632 Just because one sees or rather has the opinion that murder is unacceptable behavior is not evidence that it is objectively unacceptable behavior. You're making a category mistake by confusing what you prefer ( Subjective) with something that is simply true (Objective) whether you agree with it or not. And I must point out that just because the majority of people accept something as moraly good or bad does not mean that they are.

[@randallanderson1632]

@@GSpotter63 What we prefer, as a species, makes it true, as a species.

[@rolysantos]

"None of us have the answer as to why God didn't intervene." I can hardly believe Frank's answer! In Isaiah 10 The Lord brought the evil King of Assyria and his army to punish HIS OWN people (Judah) and "Trample them down like mud in the streets!" Why is it so hard to believe that The Lord did the same thing with Hitler in the Holocaust? Isn't that what He said he would do for disobedience in Deuteronomy 28 (especially v 45)? The Lord says in Isaiah 10 that Assyria is "The rod of MY anger..." and "a club of MY wrath..." and "I (The LORD) send him against a godless nation" Then The Lord says that after Assyria has fulfilled HIS (The Lord's) will, He will punish the king of Assyria for doing what he did! WHY? Because the King did what he did for his own wicked purpose, not for the Lord's purpose, even though he WAS serving The Lord's sovereign purpose! (v 12-16) "When the Lord has finished all his work against Mount Zion and Jerusalem, he will say, “I will punish the king of Assyria for the willful pride of his heart and the haughty look in his eyes. For he says: “‘By the strength of my hand I have done this, and by my wisdom, because I have understanding. I removed the boundaries of nations, I plundered their treasures; like a mighty one I subdued[a] their kings. 14 As one reaches into a nest, so my hand reached for the wealth of the nations; as people gather abandoned eggs, so I gathered all the countries; not one flapped a wing, or opened its mouth to chirp.’” 15 Does the ax raise itself above the person who swings it, or the saw boast against the one who uses it? As if a rod were to wield the person who lifts it up, or a club brandish the one who is not wood! 16 Therefore, the Lord, the Lord Almighty, will send a wasting disease upon his sturdy warriors; under his pomp a fire will be kindled like a blazing flame."

[@rolysantos]

@k. Agreed! It's both unpopular and uncomfortable, and I believe that's why even scholars like Frank Turek, who I do respect, are not willing to say it.

[@thenowchurch6419]

Political correctness has Frank by the collar. He himself said that he is capable of suppressing the truth and that he would have been a Nazi prison guard. The price is too high for him to state what you have laid out. And Christians wonder why non-Christians think Christianity today is a joke.

[@a-aron6724]

@@thenowchurch6419 I've heard this too and it makes sense. Clearly God had a purpose in it

[@derekallen4568]

Or maybe the more plausible option. He doesn't exist!

[@a-aron6724]

@@derekallen4568 that's a risk I'm willing to take my friend. Sorry to be a damper on your atheistic parade

[@michaelbrickley2443]

The interesting thing is how most philosophers, secular and Christians, see evil as a non issue. God has the long view and we cannot be sure He doesn’t have a purpose allowing these things. The world came together and defeated the Reich and many came to understand that there is true evil. He never promised us a rose garden here.

[@elizabethshaw734]

God answers every prayer. Sometimes it's not the answer we want.

[@johnmakovec5698]

So maybe, maybe.... God didn't stop Babylonian army and He didn't help either. They just thank hiim if they won and repent if they lost.

[@enki354]

Don't you just love it when Frank and his crony skirt the subject.

[@shivadizayin]

Why does God have to intervene everytime for anyone? When people don’t even believe in him? The fact that his mercy allows us to just live and have free will is beyond belief ! The fact that God gives us the ability to make change and we don’t but then blame God for not doing anything is priceless. Who are we to sit here and judge God? When we are the ones who crucified his son???? For OUR sins??? He’s talking about the Holocaust… why doesn’t he ask questions about why he doesn’t stop girls as young as 9 being married off to 50 yr old men in some countries ???

[@styles_furious]

God will not allow you to know Him by His power but by His love 1st

[@grandpaje4734]

Let’s go back to the basic to answer that question: Why God the Father allowed, his the only begotten and beloved son was tortured and died on the cross?

[@annecollins7065]

Jesus is an historic figure documented in ancient texts.

[@grandpaje4734]

Obviously, my question is to those who believe in Jesus Christ based on the New Testament Bible. Nothing else. With all do respect to those non believers, you are entitled to your own opinion. Regardless how we died, here is what apostle Paul said in 1 Cor 15: 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. The reality of mortal life that the world and people all will die (except those ; Math 16:28 There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom). John 3,5 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. This is my faith in Jesus Christ regardless on your opinions.

[@mobaygirl6243]

To pay the penalty for our sins.

[@grandpaje4734]

Paul Morgan The greatest miracle is the resurrection of Jesus Christ, and I do believe that. That’s the answer why God allows death since the beginning when God allows Adam and Eve partook the fruit of knowledge good and evil. This is what God said: Genesis 2 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Eve repeated to Satan what God said; Gen 3 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. The serpent said: 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Satan as the great deceiver mixed the truth and the lies, that’s the strategy of any deceiver to trap. Part of the truth is not the truth. Here is what God said: 22 And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: God allows the fall based on the free agency, and the fall is not the first failure, but God already knows. The very first Blessing and Commandment was given upon the man and women created was : 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Eve, is wiser than Adam (like most women 😄) it was important to partook the fruit of knowledge of good and evil so men will obtain the blessing. After the fall Eve became the mother of all living. 20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Satan, since the beginning is the source of death his main plan is to destroy the role of motherhood, no living things nor mortal life. Because he has no mortal body, no mortality no immortality. And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: 15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. So, don’t let Satan bruise our head with drugs and alcohols. Those poisons will lead you to sorrows without knowledge of the real joy. That’s Satan strategy to stop all living things and confused the spiritual things. 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Cor 2 I live and walk by faith, I have hope in Christ beyond my mortal life. Facts, in this life we will have sorrows, but I don’t want to have sorrows without the knowledge of good and evil. It’s impossible to live with no problem and avoiding sorrows, but with the knowledge of good and evil, we can overcome sorrows faithfully.

[@grandpaje4734]

Paul Morgan With all do respects, I am not trying to prove anything, nor expecting no one to agree with my faith. I just expressing my concept of faith in God and Jesus Christ which are eternal, ageless. No end nor getting old or young, for 8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.(Hebrew 13) Proof or Evidence is not guarantee for man to change. There are so many evidence about the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ in Jerusalem but those evidences don’t make all people in Jerusalem converted to Christianity or believe in Christ.

[@smarterworkout]

The best of man's wisdom is foolishness to God.

[@TheJuan4you]

As a "lamb" who has "left the flock" just because one doesn't believe god isn't real it doesn't mean I see my mom or dad as nothing but a molecular machine. That's a gross over simplification, and is part of the reason I get annoyed with people of faith in debates. Their constant argument is without god nothing means anything and we'd be living in Mad Max's universe. We still have a standard of good without him, the only difference is we make our own meaning and value. You don't always have to look for someone to lead you and tell you exactly how to do everything. People still have meaning, and are still valuable the meaning and value just isn't derived from an outside source.

[@remamendonce6756]

Nothing justifies killing human beings.... I thought we were supposed to forgive