NIO 4th Generation Power Swap Station Tested

[@渡海-q2w]

its mind boggling to me as to why the media isn't talking about this cutting edge tech oh well when the NED funds them to spew antichinese crap its understandably absurd.

[@projectburpees]

It’s because the market makers that own cnbc are short Nio.

[@Jifdman]

Can't hold it down forever. Quarterly earnings results will dictate when this will fly

[@Trust_but_Verify]

You can do it doesn't mean it's scalable or even profit making for the company. Each station would need 15 spare battery packs on standby. Might work for the scenario where the person isn't in the middle of travel and can set a schedule a time to arrive so they don't wait for a line of cars to have the battery swapped. This swap would have been useful when supercharging is not available 20 years ago. How many people are buying NIO just because it has battery swap station? People with new cars would swap battery to something that might have ~10% degradation? I wouldn't.

[@projectburpees]

@@Trust_but_Verify I see you've fallen victim to parroting elons opinion, battery swap is proven useful and over 70% of customers choose battery lease, 50 million swaps completed so far. Actions > words.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

@@projectburpees Side question: How does battery insurance work if the car is totaled? What does car owner need to pay Nio? Car insurance company covers that extra cost? In a 2020 article the monthly lease cost minus the price reduction of the car is about 6 years payback, meaning after 6 years the person needs to continuously pay monthly rental vs owning it out right. similar to lease/buy the car?

[@charlesd9949]

NIO makes such beautiful cars, I can't wait for ONVO!

[@projectburpees]

Seriously, Americans are one test drive away from losing exceptionalism.

[@kabandaayubmuhsin]

Woooow China innovation is truly awesome. tuus is the future truly

[@nicoev4851]

Nice to see you do some new video, looking forward for more EL6 and NIO phone content!

[@dennista42069]

Nearing perfection. Upcoming features are looking promising. Haters gonna hate and gonne watch the process everytime anyways. ;)

[@BillyYe]

Amazing, sure beats pumping gas. Eliminates so many steps (get out of car, remove gas cap, pay with credit card, select gas type, pump, wait to fill up..., remove pump, cap gas, get back into car) to 1 press of a button.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

In a different state there is gas attendance that does all that for you. You just give them the credit card and what grade you want while sitting in the car. Even regular EV charging could be automated with some robot arm but it's a bit "over engineering". Most of time just charge at home takes a few seconds and it's done overnight.

[@flukeylukey7559]

A few extra steps, get cold or hot, pick up some germs, spray hands with alcohol, get annoyed how much petrol costs and wish you weren't there giving money to a petrol company. Then leave.

[@MMM-sz8vh]

@@Trust_but_Verify LOL, that's great. You living in the 1950:s still that's cute. NOT

[@Trust_but_Verify]

@@MMM-sz8vh I own 3 Teslas. So you own a NIO and uses this battery swap for all your charging needs?

[@BillyYe]

@@Trust_but_Verify still waiting for robot arm

[@niosanfrancisco]

Excellent Eric. Thank you ❤& go NIO !

[@jholzherr]

Nice to have you in china, Mr P has become a real snake in the grass lately so it's nice to have someone more honest doing china based Nio videos

[@aga3562]

Nice video Eric. 4min for a swap is great. It takes roughly the same time to gas up. I wish we could see this in the SF Bay Area as a demo of technology. Several swap stations and a few demo cars. It could show what is possible. Thanks again.

[@UniZi]

Maybe shake up or replace the NIO USA executives, then NIO battery swap stations will magically show up right after that?

[@Trust_but_Verify]

How is this scaled when many cars need to swap? I guess the on-board app would let you schedule an appointment for battery swap so you don't have to wait in line. If there are 3 cars ahead of you that's 12 minutes wait plus your own, 16 minutes to finish swap.

[@flukeylukey7559]

​@Trust_but_Verify Still quicker and more convenient to swap. More stations. The 4th gen stations can guide the NIO ev into the station while you're at a Cafe, come back to a full battery.

[@flukeylukey7559]

​@@UniZiThey do software in California, they're not planning to enter the US at the moment.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

@@flukeylukey7559 Auto guide is cool. However the benefit of swap is to do it in 3 minutes, no benefit if the person has to be go somewhere to kill the time while waiting, because they could also do that at supercharging station for 15 minutes. Bathroom break/getting something to eat/drink. A few videos I see, doesn't get 100% battery, they got something in the 90s%. The swap station's competitiveness would vastly diminish when batteries improvements allow them to charge faster.

[@ThreeMinifootball]

Mind blowing

[@randomname931]

Damn that's as fast and more convenient than filling up with gas.

[@kev13nyc]

keep pumping out those NIO videos Eric!!!!

[@ecarpo3479]

They have also started upgrading a lot of the 3rd gen stations to Basically 4th gen. Adding lidars and cameras, increasing speed of swap but without the screen. Swap station near me was upgraded, took a couple of days to get upgrade.

[@kasterkemal]

❤NIO❤

[@dannydmaria]

That's the reason why the Big Three automakers are afraid of Chinese cars coming to the US market.

[@FTADVERTISINGLTD]

Where was this filmed? Great video, amazing tech, very informative.

[@MrPNioVideos]

Great Video!

[@mysandwichlife]

NIO will dominate shortly

[@RP-mm9ie]

Great video

[@ricoperillo4120]

Nio is king of EVs

[@UniZi]

Thank you for sharing the awesomeness of NIO and your joy from driving one, can you please make a video on Nomi user experience with changing its language to English?

[@iammeandmyself2083]

It’s a crazy world we live in, where we gets all the latest tech news and innovations from individual KZbinrs instead of MSM, in which their concerns are more politics and smearing other countries, instead of giving us normal people useful information that relates to our life.

[@Eric_Garrison]

I'm fairly certain that American leadership does not want the common American to know how far behind we actually are compared to many different countries, in many different ways... we like "USA #1" + head in the sand.

[@juki0h391]

China also has 4th generation nuclear station in operation.

[@maxquest7122]

4 minutes... not bad.

[@ironeagle22a]

Got some crazy ass drivers in China

[@stevesenick]

I live 20 miles south of Washington DC. Driving into DC to work, average number of people who try to kill me is 40 to 50 every day. All angry about.....something.😢

[@Eric_Garrison]

At least traffic is mostly slow here

[@ironeagle22a]

@@Eric_Garrisontrue. Definitely not the audobon

[@lifeisgood141]

@iron, people get killed every day due to road rage in US.

[@2022spacekw]

@@stevesenick 🤣😂 sir you've passed the robot tests!

[@PercyRanger]

EUROPE!!!! Very little seems to be happening right now regarding news of NIO swapping stations in Europe. I can see there’s a few in some countries (but VERY few). I live in France for example. Are there any plans to put some here. I’ve been following the EV revolution right from the beginning, and the one thing that really sticks out in my mind are these battery swap things, but we don’t see anything. (Or relatively little)

[@dustintravis8791]

640kW charger? That's sexy.

[@JosephPuleo]

NIO 🚀

[@makeitrainnaren]

Yooo I noticed you're listening to Majority Report With Sam Seder lol. Nice choice.

[@Eric_Garrison]

🫡 love me some Emma

[@makeitrainnaren]

@@Eric_Garrison had my heart race for a second cause I saw tim Poole said ruhoh and then saw it was majority report commentary 😭😭 had me in the first half lol

[@Eric_Garrison]

Tim pool is some top tier majority report content 😂

[@makeitrainnaren]

@@Eric_Garrison honestly Sam’s powers also supercharge when he debates libertarians 😭😭

[@Eric_Garrison]

They always talk about some island with coconut or something lol

[@cruiser97eric1]

Wow, 640kW chargers in China when here in the USA we are struggling to build enough 150kW chargers.

[@rune54321]

Cool

[@ssjj005]

I thought 4th gen will allow you to get outside the car while swapping??

[@adebayokehinde]

Get out before the swap, why get out during the swap? You wanna break it? 😂😂 some humans just destructive 😂😂😂!

[@Eric_Garrison]

Some stations have power swap on pilot enabled.

[@agusjusup]

Saya nunggu baterai nio🥰

[@tigersilberhannes9153]

Funktioniert nur, wenn Batterie, Auto und Ladestation dem selben Besitzer gehören. Also nur für Taxis denkbar. In allen anderen Fällen würde die Endverursacherhaftung jedes Geschäftsmodell verhindern.

[@dustintravis8791]

Me ten minutes ago watching a first gen swap: oh they have a second generation swap station? let me watch that video Me five minutes ago: oh they have a THIRD generation version now? well let me check that video out then... Me now: THEY HAVE A FOURTH GENERATION!?!?!?!

[@andreslira3876]

How do you post videos on KZbin living in China and filming there ?

[@Trust_but_Verify]

VPN

[@davidng407]

Hi Eric, how many Nomi voices are there? It sounds like a child.

[@majestyk3337]

If this catches on, how long will the lineup be to get into one of these?

[@Eric_Garrison]

Currently not usually more than a few minutes, but we will see in a few months when sub-brand launches

[@2022spacekw]

@@Eric_Garrison see 2 or 3 lineups are very very rare, except on national holidays and busy point

[@chiefrocka1363]

You schedule in the app and the app gives an estimated time to show up in line, to my understanding.

[@vadimch1977]

How much cost to swap the battery? (in US$). Is it more expensive than traditional charging?

[@Eric_Garrison]

cost depends on a variety of factors, but no it is not expensive, roughly equivalent to fast charging costs.

[@vadimch1977]

That's amazing! 3.5 minutes for over 90% of battery. WOW.

[@Eric_Garrison]

It's down to 2.5 minutes now with ONVO cars... pretty nuts

[@honesty_-no9he]

So many blue plates in that area.

[@mohammedrazaesmail6934]

why did it give you a 93% battery instead of 100%?

[@Eric_Garrison]

@@mohammedrazaesmail6934 they don’t usually charge to 100% to protect battery health

[@BRI_Bridges]

We are so so primitive in the wests😢

[@Albebacck]

Not really true. China is a bit ahead on EVs but the west is ahead on everything else.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

Battery swap is not scalable when there are many cars needing to do battery swap. How many cars can perform battery swap concurrently since waiting in line for each car is 3 minutes. How many fully charged battery packs can each station serve before drivers need to wait for charged battery packs to be available?

[@Eric_Garrison]

Massive parking lots full of super chargers drawing immense amount of energy from the grid at the same time also “isn’t scalable” but is being done…Ideally everyone can charge at home during off peak hours but that’s not how things actually work. This takes up less space and is more efficient, more throughput of vehicles in the same amount of space. 3-4 parking spaces used to swap can fully charge about 15 cars per hour currently. 3-4 spaces all supercharging maybe could do a handful, depending on which make and model, what battery chemistry, load management, etc.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

@@Eric_Garrison To compare with concurrent charging: How many charged battery packs does each Nio station store? 25? Are they charging them after the swap, or is able to wait till off-peak hours to charge them? Or the same issue exists when you said they can swap 15 cars per hour? NIO would need to supercharge those battery packs concurrently to have a supply of charged packs. As for parking space, true when it takes longer to charge, but the swap station is counting on optimal car line up if it offers 3 spaces for people to park their car to wait for the swap.

[@flujori]

Props to actually showing the REAL 4minutes it takes to swap, NIO fanboys always spreading lies. cheers.

[@SilverBackELTorro]

Those cars look so much better than Tesla cars.

[@ricoperillo4120]

They are way better

[@raffaelerossi6173]

only in theory but not in practice 200 km can be charged in 10 minutes

[@LongRonnybyebye]

Nio Stock is Starting to move 😅

[@cesarforte617]

my concern with NIo is the battery swapping station to me is NOT appealing especially when battery improvements gets better. I don't see that being prospering

[@stateweapon]

I still think swapping station in not the solution for the future for example if NIO has 4M car or more, other car companies are betting on battery charging technology improvement in the future.

[@Kidsolo3]

Nio has charging stations too....not just swap stations....in fact many other ev's charge using the Nio chargers💯

[@thelaitas]

Gen 4? I didn't think Gen 3 was out already LOL

[@Eric_Garrison]

china speed lol

[@fatdoi003]

buying EV without the battery pack can reduce the purchasing cost greatly when you get charged for each battery swap

[@Trust_but_Verify]

But if the car is totaled or stolen who foots the bill on the battery? The manf. would be losing money by needing to pay for each car's battery.

[@dayner989]

So your battery lives forever aint worry about degeradation

[@paulstubbs3780]

Americas not ready for that kind of service, people here are to greedy

[@Kk-mn1fq]

Noodle shops will start popping up near Nio Charging Stations. Get out of car, grab some noodles, car automatically queues car up and swaps battery when its turn. Finish noodles, car ready.

[@TanyaParker-h5v]

Harris Kevin Miller Jason Martin David

[@Trust_but_Verify]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZuUo4aCiKyandE This video has some cost for the swap.

[@underratedblastoise3908]

Lol no I don't need to change my engine every week. What a waste of space and batteries

[@cd7707a]

How many No cars do you own? I see lots of BYD and Tesla. I am not worth your effort to convince how great Nio is. Try to convince public in China to buy one as still not convinced Nio can survive without making 500,000 sales annually.

[@FDSN519614]

Not cost or environmentally friendly will be backward step

[@Unicvr]

Station. Station, station 💩

[@thomasnyborg6233]

New EV, s can charge 200 miles in 10 minutes. You can go to the bathroom, have a coffe and come back. Here you are stuck in your car.. And after battery swapping, you park your car to go to the bathroom or whatever. I don't see the advantages . 🤔

[@MMM-sz8vh]

Study what you are going to talk about before you speak. I understand that you don't see it because you obviously don't understand a single thing. No you don't even have to be in the car if you don't want, besides that if the weather is shit it's pretty nice to don't have to get out. But, there are a huge amount of advantages to not have a fixated battery that are stuck in your car until it's dead. And the battery will for sure age a lot faster than the vehicle!

[@thomasnyborg6233]

@@MMM-sz8vh I have owned EV, s since 2016,and I am living in Norway, who has the highest percentage of EV, S in the world. The battery on EV, S will outlast the car. And YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE CAR UNDER BATTERY SWAP. Maybe you should study more... Moron...

[@watsondorceus1456]

You’ll never have to worry about battery problems, that’s my reason to buy nio. You have other options to buy besides nio. everyone buys what’s they like best

[@integra8502]

I don't think this method of charging a battery will be very viable,... you have to travel to the station then you probably have to wait in line for your turn I'd much rather just be charging at home

[@zuzang6914]

Not everyone has home charger. Beside what about when you long distance travel ?!

[@Sidekick618]

Nio car is also chargeable too.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

@@zuzang6914 more supercharging stations would solve that problem for travel. And future vehicles would drive themselves to be charged/park, and to be summoned back when needed.

[@MMM-sz8vh]

@@Trust_but_Verify You missing the whole point. People that don't understand tech should listen, not speak or write stuff. Until you at least have some understanding for how things work.

[@Trust_but_Verify]

@@MMM-sz8vh I understand tech. What's the point you are trying to convey? All techs need to achieve business value unless they are in the charity business. Battery swap works for ride share owner needing fast turn around and doesn't need to worry about battery degradation for driving 100k miles a year. That business is slowly eroded with robo taxi (in China) and faster charging battery tech (in next 5 years). Is this battery swap business model attracting enough customers to buy NIO cars for this benefit?

[@MocBocUS]

Elon had considered this years ago, and it’s not a scalable solution.

[@pedroaguiarcoelho3770]

Already 50 million swaps done in China. They must have some more data/ information by now that musk didnt have when he was thinking about that 10y ago...

[@MocBocUS]

@@pedroaguiarcoelho3770 In terms of scalability, I still have doubts. The time, space, and cost required to deploy swapping stations, along with the need for additional batteries, pose significant challenges. I don't believe this approach will be viable in the long term once there are millions of EVs on the road.

[@dblhelx]

China, the largest car market on the planet, has fully adopted swap, government support with numerous partnerships with some of the largest automobile makers on the planet licensing NIO swap tech with NIO already surpassing 50 million swaps with closing in on 3000 swap stations but some used up floppy dildo on KZbin doesn't agree. Every comment section has their own special defective human, I guess.

[@adebayokehinde]

@@MocBocUSif batteries ain’t scalable, then how do you now expect all cars to run on batteries some day? 😂😂😂 that means at some point, all Evs will collapse coz there’s not enough batteries 😂😂! You say it’s expensive, but they already have 5 partnerships which will also build battery swap station for both their brands as well as onvo! Same way the franchise gas station! How is this hard to understand 😂😂

[@MocBocUS]

@@adebayokehinde dude ... you didn't get my point. You’d need twice as many batteries for every EV. Also, check out the costs of setting up battery swapping stations compared to charging stations. If, in the future, you could get 300-500 miles of range with just 10 minutes of charging, would companies still choose battery swapping over charging stations?

[@rharcus]

Battery swap looks cool, def an interesting idea, but might be tough long-term for NIO to 'own' degrading batteries and have to funnel cash into the swap system? I highly recommend you try out the newer iterations of FSD if you're back in the states any time soon, I've been using 12.5.1(.1) since it dropped and it's f'ing amazing.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

Tesla is pathetic. Keep that hate trash mobile on a Tesla pump site.

[@UniZi]

Battery swap ecosystem has to be the only way to make EV replacing the ICE vehicles, unless every human being who lives in an apartment magically have a house to moved into, the upcoming solid state battery technology will only strengthen the battery swap ecosystem.

[@cd7707a]

@@onetwothreefour-s1n haters gonna hate xD

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

@@UniZi he's a "meet Kevin" and " farzad" kid, you'd be better of talking to the walk.

[@onetwothreefour-s1n]

@@UniZi oh, and he's also an "alpha male" so be warned 😂😆

[@cd7707a]

Sure but nothing free my friend. Most people who own electric car don't even use superchargers as it is expensive so why go for swapping. Especially the company strategy is so conflicting now going after mass market instead of premium tier. How much does it cost to do a swap I researched it seems they do it by rental? For the half hour you were there no one else using it! Chinese are smart shoppers why pay more for NIO and swapping instead of BYD. Sure some are willing to pay but the sales number shows NIO is slipping in market share from 4% to 2%. NIO burned so much money in developing this technology unfortunately it is not selling more cars or swaps! In a few years time can be obsolete as battery technology advances.

[@Roman-re1yg]

I'm not sure what you're talking about. NIO invested the money in building this infrastructure which is proving to be very successful. They are now swapping around 80k per day. Numbers just came out last week that over 60% of NIO users get the majority of their energy from swapping not charging. There are a shitload of benefits to swapping way Beyond replenishing the battery. A swappable platform means repair and recycling of batteries will be much easier than any BYD or Tesla with an embedded battery. Then there's the fact that every swappable car will have better range and better battery technology the longer you own the car. Go buy yourself a BYD or Tesla and after 8 years you have 8-year-old technology and a degraded battery. It's a complete no-brainer. There is a reason 8 companies have already partnered with NIO to build their own swappable cars which will use NIOs battery swap stations. In a few years there will be a couple million cars on the road swapping and this will grow exponentially as the other manufacturers cars are released. What some people like yourself call cash burn is a company having the balls to spend billions on an infrastructure that nobody else will have. This is NIOs moat in the future and it's what separates it from every other company out there. Thanks Eric great video!

[@cd7707a]

@@Roman-re1yg market does not see NIOs moat like you. Hope you are not a shareholder as your balls is getting crushed to new lows. So sad🤭

[@UniZi]

Battery swap ecosystem has to be the only way to make EV replacing the ICE vehicles, unless every human being who lives in an apartment magically have a house to moved into, the upcoming solid state battery technology will only strengthen the battery swap ecosystem.

[@Roman-re1yg]

@@UniZi 💯 agree

[@adebayokehinde]

You such a big lair, the difference between super charger fees and swap fees are the service fees, which you also pay when you super charge! The difference is just $1 if I’m not mistaken, the electricity fee is the same! Some of yall just come here and chat shit like to talking to uneducated people or people who can’t think or reason 😂😂! Lastly search KZbin someone in china already did the comparison 😂

[@samuelromo7839]

Can’t wait for them to go out of business the next tesla 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@adebayokehinde]

😂😂😂😂 holding hate for 7 yrs and counting 😂😂! Don’t let a company have more of your attention, unless you looking for a faster way to grow white hair 😂😂

[@chiefrocka1363]

And if they don't.........

[@schnittjauch]

Kinda boring

[@Eric_Garrison]

不好意思

[@渡海-q2w]

@@Eric_Garrison haters gonna hate xD

[@elgar6743]

Boring?? It should be as exciting as fueling up your diesel or gas powered auto...and it is. In this case...BORING, is an endorsement to its efficiency I guess, to you, exciting is waiting to conventionally charge your EV for some 45-60 mins ... hey, to each their own.

[@BillyYe]

boring tech is the best tech similar to wifi auto connecting

[@UniZi]

@@elgar6743not to mention it’s way safer to do battery swapping in the current chaotic state we are in…

[@user-yt-13245]

in life everything can be done🥸

[@Solid_Snake99]

You will own nothing and be happy.