U7-Pro is HERE! Testing UniFi's First Wi-Fi 7 Access Point

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@OldMadScientist
@OldMadScientist 9 ай бұрын
Not having 4x4 on the U7 Pro is a mistake on Ubiquiti's part. They should have called it the U7 Lite.
@j340_official
@j340_official 9 ай бұрын
Given that most WiFi client devices are 2x2 max, why do you say that ?
@rpungello
@rpungello 9 ай бұрын
@@j340_official doesn't 4x4 allow two 2x2 devices to communicate at full speed simultaneously? If you only have one device active at a time sure, there's no benefit, but when you have a lot of devices my understanding is 4x4 is better.
@Ancaruin
@Ancaruin 9 ай бұрын
Exactly!@@rpungello
@mika2666
@mika2666 9 ай бұрын
Gotta keep things for the enterprise i guess
@tillmannfischer
@tillmannfischer 9 ай бұрын
It's going to be at least another year, perhaps even two, before Ubiquiti upgrades the entire AP product range again. At that point, they'll probably also release a new Enterprise version, whereas the U7 Lite will most likely indeed have pretty similar specs but in a smaller package (I wouldn't be surprised if they kept the true and tried shell of the Nano/U6 Lite).
@kushalraj
@kushalraj 9 ай бұрын
For future videos would be useful if you also had a wifi 6E device in the mix, whether it be a iPhone 15 pro or another device. This video doesn’t answer the question on if Wi-Fi 7 client is needed on Unifi and how much the improvement is. This is especially significant as Unifi skipped wifi 6E in this product line.
@mainelyhobbies
@mainelyhobbies 9 ай бұрын
His results were nearly identical to my ubiquiti Enterprise 6E access port tests. I also think it would have been interesting if he tested them both in his environment. Might make it even less worthwhile for people with ubiquitis 6e products.
@jameshuegli3534
@jameshuegli3534 9 ай бұрын
@@mainelyhobbiesExactly. I understand what he was going for here, but this really should have been a Wi-Fi U6 Enterprise vs 7 Pro. Overall, because Unifi omitted 4X4 on 6 & 5 Ghz that the Enterprise is the better way to go overall, but it would have been nice to see the comparison.
@aspiller98
@aspiller98 9 ай бұрын
The U7 Pro is backwards compatible with Wi-Fi 6E on the 6GHz band. Directly from the U7 FAQ: U7 Pro is fully backwards compatible with WiFi 6E and earlier client devices. A WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 client device is required to utilize the 6 GHz band.
@gjas24
@gjas24 9 ай бұрын
Why did the pixel not connect on 6ghz? My pixel 7 pro does on the 6 enterprise and gets great speeds
@JaronCarter
@JaronCarter 9 ай бұрын
I heard it is region locked in some locations.
@HPad2
@HPad2 9 ай бұрын
What do the 5GHz speeds look like on the pixel 8 for the U7 Pro? Thats what I'm curious about. My U6 Pro is only limited to the gig ethernet port. Was hoping to be able to get faster results by switching to the U7 Pro. Other AP's that have 2.5G I've tested I've been able to get near 1.8Gbps over regular 5GHz WiFi 6.
@adamfritzsche
@adamfritzsche 9 ай бұрын
I'd like to see some comparisons of 6E vs 7.
@maximusg88
@maximusg88 7 ай бұрын
Indeed - many of my devices support 6E - the 7 would just be for future proofing
@taylorrooney9187
@taylorrooney9187 2 ай бұрын
Same here
@ZOMBIEC0RP
@ZOMBIEC0RP 9 ай бұрын
2x2 radios across the board make this a little dissapointing.
@MitchellWilsonII
@MitchellWilsonII 9 ай бұрын
Agree, I’d much rather have the new Engenius WiFi 7 access point.
@j340_official
@j340_official 9 ай бұрын
Given that most WiFi client devices are 2x2 max (many iot devices are 1x1) why is it disappointing?
@mattkeith530
@mattkeith530 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I will wait for the u7 enterprise and see if it has a 10gig uplink or what will be required. Since this came out so early, relatively, I wonder if we will see the u7 enterprise sooner than later? Edit. I did not wait lol. I am returning the u6 E I just received for the u7 pro
@rragang
@rragang 9 ай бұрын
​​@@j340_official the more antenna element the better. MU-MIMO & beamforming, it is one of the reasons why 5G is faster than 4G is faster than 3G.
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 9 ай бұрын
4x4 will be marketed as Enterprise and cost $300. UniFi is aiming to profit on their popularity.
@chaosfenix
@chaosfenix 9 ай бұрын
I know it is a lot to ask and complicates testing but it would have been interesting to compare it to the U6 Enterprise as well. I know you mentioned it but where the U6 Enterprise has wifi 6E how much of a difference are we looking at wifi 7.
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 9 ай бұрын
More important question, is the U6 Enterprise worth $100 more than the U7 Pro.
@chaosfenix
@chaosfenix 9 ай бұрын
@@red5standingby419 Well that is part of the reason I would want the comparison. Is the U6 enterprise a dead product now or are there scenarios, probably due to its additional antennas, where you would still want to get the U6 Enterprise?
@b4ttlemast0r
@b4ttlemast0r 9 ай бұрын
Would like to see tests with a Wifi 6e client as well, there are very few Wifi 7 clients at the moment but quite a lot more Wifi 6e ones, so that would be relevant for someone upgrading from a Wifi 6 or 5 setup who has 6e devices,
@DavidTrejo
@DavidTrejo 9 ай бұрын
WiFi 7 should be backward compatible with WiFi 6E so you should be fine. Yeah the benchmarks would be nice. I have a new iPhone + wifi6E u6 enterprise and max out my 1Gb internet connection during tests 😎
@j340_official
@j340_official 9 ай бұрын
from the U7 Pro FAQ on the UI store: "A WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 client device is required to utilize the 6 GHz band."
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. 9 ай бұрын
It will be close to pixel 8 speeds here. Agreed he should have just used something like iphone 15 pro.
@fl3shgordon
@fl3shgordon 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Interested in seeing U7 Pro vs U6 Enterprise
@jaredbeatty07
@jaredbeatty07 9 ай бұрын
The iPhone 13 Pro Max only supports up to 80Mhz channel width on 5GHz/AX. The Unifi AP will change for client compatibility, regardless the of width you chose.
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 9 ай бұрын
and its a 2 yo modem.....shhhh he doesnt need to understand specs....
@ManuelRodriguez27
@ManuelRodriguez27 9 ай бұрын
Very poor testing and methodology. It's a bit funny that a "networking" channel isn't even using iperf.
@pingpt
@pingpt 9 ай бұрын
This is a useless review. It’s a comparison on the same “name” u6 pro to u7 pro. The comparison i would expect to see would be u6 enterprise vs u7 pro to see exactly wifi7 would perform versus wifi 6E on the 6ghz band. And as said, not having iperf tests just make these reviews a waste of time.
@unicodefox
@unicodefox 9 ай бұрын
@@ManuelRodriguez27iPerf gives wildly different results to other speed tests in my experience. Haven't looked into why however
@ManuelRodriguez27
@ManuelRodriguez27 9 ай бұрын
@@unicodefox for WiFi clients, I usually have to add on additional streams or change the window size
@joopterwijn
@joopterwijn 9 ай бұрын
What was the physical setup with he test? Phone direct next to access point? Or more realistic with a wall in between…
@elgrazo82
@elgrazo82 9 ай бұрын
was about time for the 2.5g port but 2x2 is really disappointing, especially considering it costs $30 more than the U6 Pro
@fuoman100
@fuoman100 9 ай бұрын
C9nsiding the cost of the u6 enterprise with 4x4 and 2.5gb they should have been able to slot in 2.5gb into a u6 pro or u6e pro ap. The u7 is cheaper still than the enterprise and that has better specs in my mind.
@ReneeTeunissen
@ReneeTeunissen 9 ай бұрын
2.5 is stupid. Im realy disapointed. Isnit that they dont have 5Gbps poe switches?
@mainelyhobbies
@mainelyhobbies 9 ай бұрын
It's so dumb to advertise 5 gigabit speeds and put a 2.5gigabit port on it. It's dating itself already. Of all things to throttle your device... You don't throttle the backbone.
@fuoman100
@fuoman100 9 ай бұрын
I guess I'm the only one here that can saturate my 1gb connection when my backbone is 10gb. 1gb is to slow when you have multiple wifi clients transferring data back and forth off a storage server or working directly off of servers. 2.5 is great by yes 5gb and 10gb would be better but infrastructure cost is to high for cat6a/cat6e or 7. 2.5gb is the sweet spot of antenna capability and wired speed.
@mainelyhobbies
@mainelyhobbies 9 ай бұрын
@@fuoman100 it's a premium device at $180, just thinking they would design it without such a glaring flaw for something that people usually put in place for 5 or so years. How much more could a 5gb port cost?
@URackADisciprine
@URackADisciprine 9 ай бұрын
2x2 MIMO on the 5GHz? That's Ubiquiti for you, two steps forward one step back and a higher price tag to boot!
@JSLEnterprises
@JSLEnterprises 9 ай бұрын
well, so far with the U7 Pro, its more 1 step forward, 2 steps back.
@AynonZ
@AynonZ 8 ай бұрын
$189 isn't bad compared to some of the other like devices I've seen so far...
@URackADisciprine
@URackADisciprine 8 ай бұрын
@@AynonZ The only devices that need comparing against the U7 Pro are the U6 Lite and U6 Pro. They put the U7 Pro to shame in one way or another for their respective price points and/or feature sets. They are the most direct comparisons there are.
@siiNke
@siiNke 4 ай бұрын
@@URackADisciprinewhich one is better?
@ericconnaty7476
@ericconnaty7476 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone else pointed this out however there is no Bluetooth Management. I don't think this is a big deal for most however, in my SoHo I use Protect All-In-One Sensors to track doors opening and closing which require bluetooth connectivity. I find it odd that Ubiquiti did not add bluetooth to the U7 Pro as they previously added it to both the U6 Pro and U6 Lite (not U6+). I wonder if this had something to do with keeping cost down or maybe they felt it didn't add any value.
@martyndix2290
@martyndix2290 9 ай бұрын
Do these things support the Bluetooth products such as the UP-Sense?
@sanderdelft
@sanderdelft 9 ай бұрын
Very good question, sir. Should be part of any AP review I guess.
@curtminerd
@curtminerd 9 ай бұрын
BLE is not on the U7 Pro.
@martyndix2290
@martyndix2290 9 ай бұрын
@@curtminerdthanks for the info, albeit disappointing
@Bigboats619
@Bigboats619 9 ай бұрын
I just upgraded to WiFi6 and the AP will be here in two days. Should I cancel it?
@marshallb5210
@marshallb5210 9 ай бұрын
everyone seems to miss the fact that it HAS A FAN INSIDE
@brandobond
@brandobond 7 ай бұрын
Was disappointed he didn't cover this. My AP is right outside my bedroom and I don't want to add any extraneous noise to the area.
@wvansluisveld3011
@wvansluisveld3011 Ай бұрын
Others have covered it and mentioned it is quiet. However nobody is able to test that it is still quiet in 3 years time.
@MiltonGeorges
@MiltonGeorges 9 ай бұрын
My use case for wifi7 would be to transfer files more quickly to my home lab / NAS, though this would only be particularly useful on the laptop that I work on, and for one time transfers of large amounts of data. Otherwise, I agree that even wifi 5 is perfectly adequate for most day-to-day use. I’m still rocking my AC-Pros, with one WiFi 6 access point in my office space.
@cheerlin
@cheerlin 9 ай бұрын
Same situation, the dearest improvement we need is range performance… at distance and behind 1 wall at least). Sadly those limited by transmit power. In older installation it will be much cost to add lan points and a AP
@deano1699
@deano1699 9 ай бұрын
@@cheerlin pumping power to add range is generally a bad idea with wifi. Yes, it's a higher capex to install more APs (especially for the typical residential family)... But we're "already there" with all these mesh home router solutions on the market that ARE effectively that, just with a backbone that competes for airtime with end user devices.
@j340_official
@j340_official 9 ай бұрын
Good video. The main question I have for you is can WiFi 6E devices like the iPhone 15 pro max etc connect to the 6 GHz band of the new u7 pro radio ? Or are they banished to 5 GHz or 2.4 GHz
@DavidTrejo
@DavidTrejo 9 ай бұрын
Yes they will connect to 6ghz (WiFi 6E) as it is backwards compatible
@j340_official
@j340_official 9 ай бұрын
@@DavidTrejo from the U7 Pro FAQ on the UI store: "A WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 client device is required to utilize the 6 GHz band." I figured a 6E device would operate in the 6 GHz band of this new radio, but I've been around technology long enough to not assume anything in terms of interoperability (and I'm talking about thunderbolt interoperability, or lack thereof). So this is good.
@DavidTrejo
@DavidTrejo 9 ай бұрын
@@j340_official Yep per the docs, It’ll work fine. As long as you understand the range limitations of 6ghz vs 5ghz (or even 2.5ghz) it should work fine.
@mgbon2
@mgbon2 9 ай бұрын
Can we get some comparisons to other vendors? Omada, Aruba instant on?
@emilejones9658
@emilejones9658 8 ай бұрын
If I am upgrading from the nano HD, what access point would you recommend?
@cassinovashalo
@cassinovashalo 9 ай бұрын
This would be more useful if you compared it to the U6-Enterprise since those are similarly spec’d items.
@forestman111
@forestman111 9 ай бұрын
??? The U6E is like $100 more. That's not comparable at all.
@cassinovashalo
@cassinovashalo 9 ай бұрын
​@@forestman111, That may be the case for some folks (not arguing your statement), however since @crosstalksolutions (Chris) speaks to things other than cost, I believe my comment/ask is justified. Comparing different generations of devices that have similarities/differences based on things other than expense would be more appropriate than comparisons based on cost. Cost is almost always a difference between devices of different generations and so I suspect that's why it was not really mentioned in the video. Further, comparing the device features (whether subjectively an upgrade or a downgrade) helps the consumer figure out if the cost difference is indeed justified (for them) or not. Something being a higher cost does not mean it's a better product (or worse).
@issacohasi
@issacohasi 9 ай бұрын
@@forestman111o think this u7 is basically the same project of u6e but cost optimized and with one or other 'enhancement' for wifi7. They are walking at the same steps of old apple with every year new versions.
@red5standingby419
@red5standingby419 9 ай бұрын
@@cassinovashalo Disagree. Cost is the primary comparison 99% of consumers are going to look at first. Even if the 6E outperforms the 7 Pro because of the better mimo configuration you then have to decide if the amount of performance difference justifies paying 33% more for the faster product with the older spec.
@rufioh
@rufioh 9 ай бұрын
If it’s got a 2.5Gbps Ethernet port, what does it do with the extra speed over wifi?
@mainelyhobbies
@mainelyhobbies 9 ай бұрын
Very similar to my 6e ubiquiti accespoint for speed tests. Makes no sense for me to upgrade. That's a lot of power usage for a 2x2 access point if you planned on peppering those around your house.
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 9 ай бұрын
Wifi 6's party trick was latency/efficiency 6e's new/larger spectrum 7's is dual band simultaneous connection for a client ... testing them all just in straight peak bandwidth is missing the point of each generation. Id be tempted to get the U7Pro for an AP where coverage/stability is the driver but a U7Ent is the upgrade I'm probably going to get excited about.
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. 9 ай бұрын
bingo.
@LackofFaithify
@LackofFaithify 9 ай бұрын
He didn't try it because that feature is a, "some point down the road in a firmware update" type of feature. Go look at the real fine print on the product page, lol.
@kurlis
@kurlis 9 ай бұрын
1 thing that should of been added to the U7-Pro is either a 5 or 10 GbE uplink, but 4x4 mimo or 6x6 or even 8x8 would of been a nice upgrade
@je8277
@je8277 9 ай бұрын
3x 2x2. Probably limited by formfactor
@JustRisible
@JustRisible 9 ай бұрын
Did I miss you mentioning that it doesn’t come equipped with Bluetooth?
@atomycal
@atomycal 9 ай бұрын
Would be awesome to see a comparison with the U6-Enterprise / WiFi 6E.
@s__c__o
@s__c__o 9 ай бұрын
I wanted the same initially, recently got a 6E, it seems to be the better choice still. U7 is only 2x2 MIMO on 5 and 6Ghz. It's going to be several years before most of my devices are WiFi 7 compatible, I still have most on 5Ghz, so 4x4 MIMO provides more benefit here. No doubt there'll be a U7 Enterprise eventually - that'll be worth the upgrade likely.
@danfromorlando
@danfromorlando 9 ай бұрын
I love my u6 enterprise, sadly this wasn’t enough for me to make a jump.
@atomycal
@atomycal 9 ай бұрын
@@s__c__o U6E is better for the 5 & 6Ghz. I will get the U7 Pro as I need an AP soon, and for now the main interest is the 2.4Ghz band which is a touch faster on the U7 Pro. Later down the road a U7 Enterprise will follow. I'm a futerproofer, what can I say? 😒
@jsclayton
@jsclayton 9 ай бұрын
Good timing, seems that WiFi 7 certification of devices was announced this morning too! I haven’t found if that means the standard has been ratified or not though. 🤔
@JSLEnterprises
@JSLEnterprises 9 ай бұрын
any devices using Wifi 7 at this point in time will remain "Draft" for the remainder of the devices life.
@knightime14
@knightime14 9 ай бұрын
I'm really hoping that you get your hands on (or already have your hands on) a Cloud Gateway Ultra.
@briankoval3368
@briankoval3368 8 ай бұрын
What about Bluetooth LE ? Why is Bluetooth supposedly left out of this AP?
@Ancaruin
@Ancaruin 9 ай бұрын
They finalized/certified the WiFi7 today, we 've already read articles.
@CrosstalkSolutions
@CrosstalkSolutions 9 ай бұрын
Last I heard, it was no longer 'draft' status and was just waiting on ginal sign-off, which will happen later in 2024.
@Ancaruin
@Ancaruin 9 ай бұрын
@@CrosstalkSolutions Today though?
@mrgigafool72
@mrgigafool72 9 ай бұрын
The 802.11be / WiFi-7 standard was approved stable. The predicted certification is October 2024.
@chrisragsdale354
@chrisragsdale354 9 күн бұрын
Is this the same as the u7 outdoor?
@cdeaker
@cdeaker 9 ай бұрын
On one hand Ubiquiti releases a product that’s ahead of the curve before the standards are ratified & on the other hand they release a long overdue upgrade to the USG with the UXG-Lite that is only just good enough with little headroom for the future
@YKSGuy
@YKSGuy 9 ай бұрын
Wi-Fi Alliance just announced Wi-Fi 7 certification is starting now so it isn't as big of a leap as devices released last year, everything is locked down now in the spec.
@MrFoof82
@MrFoof82 9 ай бұрын
The WiFi 7 standard was announced as finalized today by the WiFi Alliance during CES.
@cdeaker
@cdeaker 9 ай бұрын
@@MrFoof82 good timing then!
@mgbon2
@mgbon2 9 ай бұрын
What strikes me as odd is that these were clearly manufactured before the specs were ratified... So if there's any differences made towards the end of the ratification process... Then are these not fully compliant?
@causarumcognitio
@causarumcognitio 9 ай бұрын
Being limited to 2.5gbps when they brag about almost 10gbps wifi isn’t ahead of the curve. It’s still 2.5gbps wifi.
@jessej8957
@jessej8957 9 ай бұрын
RE: buying WiFi gear before standards are finalized, I still have some "Wave 1" 802.11ac gear somewhere
@KevinMuldoon
@KevinMuldoon 9 ай бұрын
Have to agree with others about 2x2 being used on all bands. This really doesn't feel like a pro product.
@GrilledAnimal
@GrilledAnimal 9 ай бұрын
Good video. There are always more things that would have been interesting to see when it comes to AP testing. One small detail that I personally think makes a big difference is to make sure you have the same scale on the y-axis when you compare the speeds of the Pixel 8 and the iPhone 13 (I think the graph for Pixel 8 went from 0 to 1000 and for the iPhone it was 0 to 750 or something like that). That would have made it much easier to actually clearly see the speed difference between the two.
@BrianThomas
@BrianThomas 9 ай бұрын
I fully agree with your last comment. We still have time before this becomes mainstreem. Enjoy Wifi 6 and Wifi 6E
@rogerrix4127
@rogerrix4127 4 ай бұрын
Would it work well if I had two AP's one wifi 7 and one wifi 6 and set wifi 6 to 2.4 only and the wifi 7 to 5 and 6 only. Letting the few things not hard wired that are 2.4 only to connect to the one and everything else to the other? Thanks.
@AMPTechGrade
@AMPTechGrade 9 ай бұрын
something else to note here that NOBODY Talks about. ALot of the Apple devices DO NOT use 160MHz, they are capped at 80MHz
@JeffreySpring
@JeffreySpring 9 ай бұрын
Where can I get the desk stand shown next to the keyboard at the 2:51 minute mark in the video?
@tamiller84
@tamiller84 9 ай бұрын
Agreed, I would love to know where you got the stands for the access points.
@designcomputer1
@designcomputer1 6 ай бұрын
Will I be able to achieve the same results of speed on my Android phone and on my MSI laptop?
@pax0707
@pax0707 9 ай бұрын
Considdering that that iPhone doesn't even support 160 it did great. Also - 2x2 only is not a Pro feature.
@droneforfun5384
@droneforfun5384 9 ай бұрын
I got a raid10 Nas with a 10G nic for 4K video editing directly from the nas. When you think wifi will reach 10G speeds..?
@connieko2976
@connieko2976 9 ай бұрын
WiFi 7 interop/certification is available today 1/8
@Jim-zb1lu
@Jim-zb1lu 9 ай бұрын
I am saving my money for your 1500 dollar network. I have a really old house and will be installing Ethernet cables this spring under the house to include wired connectivity to my main tv and to an outside access point
@EndUserTube
@EndUserTube 9 ай бұрын
Please test Wi-Fi 5 3x3 devices as MIMO has been kneecapped at 2x2. How does that impact performance of 3x3 devices?
@peterwellmann5150
@peterwellmann5150 Ай бұрын
Something I didn’t get (in general). How can a U6Pro provide 4.8Gbit/s with 1Gbit/s Ethernet Link? Same with 2.5 at U7Pro with 5.7? Adding all frequencies equals round about 9Gbit/s (using a lot of devices at one AP). What do I oversee?
@daryl9627
@daryl9627 3 ай бұрын
So, what is this equipt. and what is it used for.
@pwhiteheadnj
@pwhiteheadnj 9 ай бұрын
I just became a Ubiquiti user a month ago and bought my first Dream Machine Pro SE. Along with the DMSE I also got a U6 Pro and I'm very pleased with it. To be honest, I wouldn't even know the different between wifi 6 or 7. I test my mobile speeds daily. I average between 920 and 980 mps download and around 24 to 27 mps upload.
@AA-kj4ic
@AA-kj4ic 8 ай бұрын
we need to see a 4x4 antenna wifi 7 access point.
@mhpestman
@mhpestman 6 ай бұрын
If not connected to a 2.5G PoE+ port but to a common 2.5G port, you'll need a PoE+ Injector. Is the PoE+ Injector capable of a 2.5Gbe troughput? Or will the PoE+ Injector be a 1G limitation?
@wicked_observer
@wicked_observer 7 ай бұрын
Is it better than the U6 Enterprise?
@faradayengineeringlimited
@faradayengineeringlimited 3 ай бұрын
is U7-pro support Mesh with other hardwired U7-pro ?
@matthewpisarek3500
@matthewpisarek3500 8 ай бұрын
It would be great if you included the firmware versions that you had installed on each device during your testing.
@HPad2
@HPad2 9 ай бұрын
iPhones before the iPhone 15 Pro is a bad test when it comes to WiFi. 750Mbps is about the max of the iPhone 13 Pro max no matter the AP.
@deepsreddy
@deepsreddy 6 ай бұрын
Chris, what power strip is on your desk with the red usb cable plugged in?
@joshhibschman
@joshhibschman 6 ай бұрын
How was the coverage/range walking around your building? I like the Wifi 6e and 2.5Gb link, and am on the fence between the U7-Pro and the U6-Enterprise.
@AudioFunHouse
@AudioFunHouse 4 ай бұрын
U6 Enterprise all the way!!!!
@Concordeagle
@Concordeagle 6 ай бұрын
what version wifi do most phones use? Samsung, iPhones, etc.
@xamindar
@xamindar 8 ай бұрын
You list channel width for each test....but are your devices actually CONNECTING at those widths? Doesn't matter what it is set to if the devices are not connected at the same width.
@MrBigPak
@MrBigPak 9 ай бұрын
Sticking with U6 Pro. Your comments at the end are spot on. 95%+ of people would not benefit going to Wifi 7. I don't see the need for those speeds on a wireless spectrum, and most people would just hardwire if speeds were important.
@TankSchu
@TankSchu 9 ай бұрын
If you’re an early adopter of WiFi 6E/7, you can essentially have the 6GHz band all to yourself while your neighbors fight over 2.4/5GHz for a few years. Assuming you have devices that can use 6GHz.
@MrBigPak
@MrBigPak 9 ай бұрын
​@@TankSchu True and somewhat to the point, how many devices does a typical homeowner have that are WiFi 7 and do they really need that type of bandwidth? Most power users are already invested in hardwired networking for speed sensitive applications. 600 MBps on Wifi 6 is more than enough bandwidth for wireless scenarios around a typical home. Not saying the Wi-Fi 7 standard isn't going to be more adopted down the road, everyone is going to pay that premium to have it now.
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. 9 ай бұрын
@@TankSchu this is only true if you live in dense apartments. If you live in a house in a suburb, there are enough channels on 5Ghz. I live in suburb and I easily get 800mbps on my wifi 6 router with no interference.
@e92acj75
@e92acj75 9 ай бұрын
I've been using the U7-Pro for about a week now and was surprised to hear an internal cooling fan turn on yesterday. The U7 is ceiling mounted at 12' high, and the hum was noticeable in the living room about 20 ft away. I restarted the AP and haven't heard the fan running since. Speed tests from my iPhone 15 Pro have been as high as 1029/1278 Mbps. The U7 replaces a UAP-AC-Pro using a 2.5 Gbps uplink. Happy with it so far
@henryliu5566
@henryliu5566 9 ай бұрын
Must have been a glitch with the fan
@kdeuler
@kdeuler 6 ай бұрын
Have you found that the range on the 5+ gb wifi speeds have a reduced range compared to 2.4gb if the router behind a wall or two?
@TheSchulz2380
@TheSchulz2380 8 ай бұрын
UXG Light with Wi-Fi 7 does it max out 1 gig connection?
@erichubbard7754
@erichubbard7754 9 ай бұрын
What's the range one can expect? Worse than 2.4 GHz for sure I'd imagine
@Ruab
@Ruab 4 ай бұрын
can you use this as a repeater?
@oappi4686
@oappi4686 8 ай бұрын
I think you are wrong. Wifi7 brings Quality of life features that are really nice. If you are planning on buying Wifi AP, I would go for Wifi7. If you feel better getting official certification, just wait a bit and get one then. I have been waiting something like this since wifi 4 and I am waiting for it to be officially certified. Intel laptop Wlan7 adapters you can install inside your laptop are like $20-25, so I will be getting one when I pick one of these up.
@joegomez5807
@joegomez5807 9 ай бұрын
NIC video. If I am depending on my phone for “ultra-fast” WiFi, I am in big trouble. Get if you really have a high density situation. Thanks for your work
@candoslayer
@candoslayer Ай бұрын
I think if you are shopping for a new access point get the latest standard but if you are debating upgrading your current one thats where the is it worth it question comes in.
@rockyo967
@rockyo967 7 ай бұрын
Affiliate Links. Sorry this is a bit off topic. If I use your affiliate link is that useful for everything in the Unifi store or only the specific items you reviewing . Thank you.
@valiconstantin9247
@valiconstantin9247 9 ай бұрын
Hi, iPhone 13 Pro does not support wifi 7 or 6e.
@TorbenHolmelund
@TorbenHolmelund 9 ай бұрын
It’s a shame only US shop have these.
@M0nkNZL
@M0nkNZL 9 ай бұрын
For future videos when you are using bar graphs next to each other make sure they are on the sale scale, as this at a quick glace makes them look similar when there is a big difference at timestamp 8:51
@LiLBitsDK
@LiLBitsDK 8 ай бұрын
hmm 2,5gbit ethernet for the U7-Pro, so it makes the dreammachine SE useless since the POE(+) ports are only 1gbit if I recall right?
@allenyoon
@allenyoon 9 ай бұрын
U is good for homes. Never for business
@sireveman
@sireveman 9 ай бұрын
TP-Link Omada EAP783, BE19000 is available right now. So hardly the first if it isn't even released yet.
@carlinator92
@carlinator92 9 ай бұрын
My UniFi AP AC Pro is still working and enough for video calls, KZbin 4K, Netflix 4K, etc. still after 10 years..! No need to upgrade for me..
@Trashbag_Full_of_Coleslaw
@Trashbag_Full_of_Coleslaw 9 ай бұрын
Is the U7 compatible with the UAP-AC-Pro mount?
@e92acj75
@e92acj75 9 ай бұрын
yes, I did a direct swap from UAP-AC-Pro to U7-Pro
@jeremytrees7266
@jeremytrees7266 9 ай бұрын
5:00 small typo on the channel widths for the U6-Pro
@deano1699
@deano1699 9 ай бұрын
The only tests that really matter to me for this device is how well it supports the FEATURESET of Wifi 7, which is theoretically designed to address issues with 5, 6, and 6e that haven't been resolved for DECADES. I'd suggest the best way to test a device like this is not as the only AP live at testing time, but rather by surrounding it with every 5/6 AP you own, and seeing how well it performs in a "simultated highrise apartment". :)
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. 9 ай бұрын
yeah but it wont really solve for this properly though. All the clients also need to support wifi 7 (many new IOT devies are still on wifi 4 protocol) and the benefits you are talking about will be mainly seen in 6GHZ channel.
@deano1699
@deano1699 9 ай бұрын
@@Fear.of.the.Dark. that's simply not true. One of the biggest advantages of Wifi 7 is that legacy devices do NOT affect the performance of newer ones. So, if you have a bunch of 2.4 and 5 IoT cameras/lights/etc, it's not going to affect your Wifi 7 laptop in the slightest.
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh
@MichaelSmith-fg8xh 9 ай бұрын
I live in this scenario (20 floor building in a street full of them and hostspots visible from cars driving past). With wifi 5 I could improve peak speeds 10+% by applying aluminium foil to block neighbours signals. 6e@6ghz did wonders with only 10% of the spectrum being "interference". I have IoT/printers/junk on 2.4ghz so they don't touch the fast wifi bands.
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. 9 ай бұрын
@@deano1699 that is because you will run your laptop in 6ghz spectrum which your IOT devices cant connect to anyways. That has nothing to do with wifi 7. You can do with wifi 6e devices as well in 6ghz channels. If you have bunch of iot devices in 2.4ghz and 5ghz and then your laptop still runs in those older 2 spectrums, it will still be subject to lot of interference.
@deano1699
@deano1699 9 ай бұрын
@@Fear.of.the.Dark. nope. Nope. Not even close. If your laptop only does 2.4 and 5, it ALSO won't be affected by 2.4-only devices. Please, just... go have a read. It's a huge improvement over 6e, which is why a lot of manufacturers skipped 6e to move straight to 7 (and correspondingly why it seems like it was such a "jump" - because the marketing is still pretty new on the 6e devices that WERE released, and now we have 7, whee! Definitely confuses people... But it's a SOLID update. Having said that, if I was running 6e, I wouldn't make a move urgently to upgrade... But, anyone running a LOT of legacy devices, or on APs older than 6e will see huge improvements.
@Moonraker11
@Moonraker11 9 ай бұрын
At 6:45 the iPhone 13 Pro max only supports Wi-Fi 6 (not 6E). The iPhone 14 Pro Max only supports Wi-Fi 6 (not 6E). The iPhone 15 Pro Max supports Wi-Fi 6E. The iPhone 16 Pro series will support Wi-Fi 7.
@Fear.of.the.Dark.
@Fear.of.the.Dark. 9 ай бұрын
how do you know 16 pro will support wifi 7? Apple is very slow to move. I bet all of the new Apple hardware this year will only support wifi 6e. Wifi 7 support wont come before 2025.
@shaunvickers9255
@shaunvickers9255 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your informative video. I just purchased a U7 pro and would like to know if the Unifi POE+ injector will limit the througput to 1gpbs or if it will support the full bandwidth of the U7 pro. Ubiquiti is ambiguous about the speed and throughput supported by the injector and I can't seem to find any definitive answer on the Unifi forums. Thanks!
@blunden2
@blunden2 3 ай бұрын
PoE injectors are not really active ethernet devices, they are simply passing the signal along and injecting power. The only thing they negotiate is PoE. Therefore they should support faster speeds just fine, which has also proven to be the case in practice.
@thatLion01
@thatLion01 8 ай бұрын
I love how your phone is next to the ap when doing the tests. Ofcourse it will be super fast.
@codyl1992
@codyl1992 8 ай бұрын
With my laptop with the intel BE card, i get 1900 megabit speed tests through it. about 1400 with a 6e device. works great
@jarno2427
@jarno2427 9 ай бұрын
Shame its only 2x2 hope it was its full pentantional 4x4
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 9 ай бұрын
so.... My Iphone 15 ProMax support wifi 6E, 6Ghz.... This wouldn't actually be an upgrade for me? while the iphone supports 6Ghz, it doesn't support wifi 7? Thats kinda weird they wouldn't include 6E in with 7? Am I correct?
@Moonraker11
@Moonraker11 9 ай бұрын
You have to wait for the iPhone 16 Pro to get Wi-Fi 7...So, in your instance, it would not be an upgrade...
@ryancrazy1
@ryancrazy1 5 ай бұрын
@@Moonraker11 It was an upgrade. I can use my 15 Pro Max to get onto the 6Ghz freq. I just can't do wifi 7 features. but it does have all the 6e features.
@nmfireman
@nmfireman 7 ай бұрын
I am planning to go from an Eero system to a complete Uni system. Is there someone I can talk to that can help me with the components I should get?
@reddyuda
@reddyuda 9 ай бұрын
Damn, I literally just past my return window on the new U6-Pro i bought. Still brand new in box... Really wish I procrastinated on ordering it. 😂
@andreassetterlind
@andreassetterlind 9 ай бұрын
Can you test 10GbE NAS to a laptop with new Intel BE200 WiFi module?
@WesselLemmer
@WesselLemmer 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree. Up your network only there where you may need it when the time comes. My crappy old phone isnt going to get any better with a new network..
@alwaysright3718
@alwaysright3718 9 ай бұрын
Bet it still buffers 4k video...
@lukenstein86
@lukenstein86 9 ай бұрын
Great video, and I'll watch even more with the telecom pronunciation of MIMO 🙂
@jamesmcmahonii8433
@jamesmcmahonii8433 8 ай бұрын
The 240 is interesting for my use case. I live near a nuclear test military base. There is a lot of interference on most channels around me.
@tomaszcodasz
@tomaszcodasz 7 ай бұрын
What is the idle power use of this AP?
@jeffreysherman8498
@jeffreysherman8498 9 ай бұрын
Can U7-Pro use the 6ghz as "back haul" when used in "Mesh"? Does that give it a "leg up" across all UniFi AP's?
@ivanpironi4913
@ivanpironi4913 6 ай бұрын
is there a plan for 7 lite????
@_mball_
@_mball_ 7 ай бұрын
Skipping over WiFi 6E is maybe missing the value here. I just got my U7 Pro because I wanted 6ghz at home, and I'm really just adding a 2nd AP. 6ghz and a wider channel width mean 2-3x the bandwidth of 5ghz in my local tests. For file syncing, backups, etc. this is a nice improvement. Given that I'm spending nearly $120 less than Ubiquiti's dedicated 6E devices, and only $11 more than the U6 Pro / U6 Mesh - I think it's really worth it even today as "just" a WiFi 6E device.
@keyboard_g
@keyboard_g 9 ай бұрын
Maybe they'll finally update the DreamMachine(s) to support 2.5Ghz.
@cenipus
@cenipus 9 ай бұрын
I'm with you there. I would love to see a dream machine model with 10gbe (both SPF+ and 10/5/2.5/GBase-T WAN ports) and 10/5/2.5GBase-T Lan ports. Would be nice for those that can afford internet connections exceeding 1GB.
@maxmustermann194
@maxmustermann194 8 ай бұрын
The advantage right now is you have that new frequency for yourself and it will be a long time until all neighbours upgrade.
@nursemsic
@nursemsic 9 ай бұрын
In 2022 i was installing a "new" outdoor wifi antenna to control gate access. Was initially really disappointed to see it was only Wifi 4... until i remembered that firstly you dont need much bandwidth to send data to open and shut a gate and secondly distance was more important anyway, hence 2.4Ghz being correct. Wifi 5 or 6 would have been, at best, a waste of money and at worst would have encouraged the wrong spectrum to be used.
@James_Knott
@James_Knott 9 ай бұрын
One point about ratifying, when that happens it usually takes only a software update to get the finalized version. The hardware would be locked in long before then. In the mean time, I'll just stick with my WiFi 5 UniFi AC-Lite. It's more than adequate for my needs.
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