CROWDER RUNS FROM SAM SEDER ON THE H3 PODCAST

[@testoftempest]

0:00 Intro 2:00 Going Over Crowder’s History 22:20 H3H3 vs Crowder Debate 24:30 SAM SHOWS UP! 33:00 Steve’s Dad is Going to be Mad 37:28 Post “Debate” Recap 1:03:15 Crowder Calls In A Favor 1:22:20 Wrapping Up

[@ChillAssTurtle]

Big PP from tempest

[@bobzaskalamar4908]

Even if you don't follow youtubers, politics, social media or any online drama - this whole thing by itself, without any context - is terribly hilarious :'D

[@joshuaDstarks]

They need to hire dedicated timestampers on YT.

[@Tester-sh1mn]

@@joshuaDstarks The description has time stamps and the video has chapters too

[@paddleduck5328]

25:33 where coward admits he was following Sam’s show schedule 😆

[@Amaterasu77306]

If Steven Crowder is so anti-socialism, why does he keep getting publicly owned?

[@estebancomulet]

only the ninth place I've seen that today, but never gets old lol. Great line ;)

[@Salmiak]

This comment is wildly underappreciated. You, my dude, getthe gold medal from me. 👍😂😎

[@mindlander]

At least mention you appropriated this..

[@Fatdecember]

The debate was never with Sam. You can’t get owned if the conversation/debate was never with said crasher. Stop making up lies that bring you comfort.

[@mindlander]

@@Fatdecember it was when Sam showed up. Don't you believe in the marketplace of ideas? Or just sucking off your man?

[@SuzakuX]

What's really great is realizing that Ethan could have gotten the exact same response out of Crowder just by putting a still image of Sam up on his stream. His paranoia was off the charts.

[@tadferd4340]

Everyone going on to debate Steven Coward needs a clip of Sam saying, "Hi Steve! Don't run away! Let's talk!" And play that when the debate starts.

[@craizy007]

The "stop showing your little leprechaun co-host" line fucking killed me

[@treyeden2006]

All his fucking sideshow gremlins are hilarious; too bad we didn't get to see their reactions during this.

[@alessandro3000]

I almost passed out when he said that :D

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

Especially when you consider that "co-host" is his producer Father.

[@sharsasuke01]

Bruh, even the Leprechaun guy looked nervous and hes always looks stoned and out of it.

[@Raakiszh]

That was the only part that wasn't OK or funny at all, actually. Be better.

[@awakenedgraphics4023]

Ethan’s greatest ability is that everyone thinks he’s an idiot. Ethan is actually an incredible interviewer, he’s not scared to ask any question he wants and people generally walk right into his trap because they don’t think he’s capable.

[@zewps9502]

yeah, I've especially noticed that in his debates with hasan, bro may only really have the knowledge base of the average person when it comes to politics , but he's really smart and doesn't let people get in his head

[@Jenna_Miles]

@zewps9502 Except Bill Burr😆😆 And maybe Jay Shetty

[@gnomechomsky2524]

Crowder literally has videos of him confronting people who he spars with online without their knowledge that he's going to show up. For him to cry foul here is beyond pathetic.

[@theultimatetempest1918]

Lol'd at his chuds trying to teach everyone the cowardice of ambushing.

[@tristangilmour3244]

I agree plus chris hedges is great

[@estebancomulet]

None of their criticisms add up. They claim to be upholders of open debate and free dialogue, yet flee in terror when a sincere opportunity presents itself. They claim ignorance of Sam, yet knew everything about him, provided stats, information about his career choices. They claim to be macho and stoic, yet are the most snowflakey and triggered of all. They just abound with hypocrisy and grift. But if you think about it they must hate themselves. They are eminently hateable. It would make sense.

[@eclecticsteak]

Is there a link to this I want to see this so bad

[@cf3714]

@Kristin Smith Maybe Crowder should of brought up those "facts" instead of shouting over Sam and then cutting the call?

[@galaxyocicat5660]

"I've never met more of a woman" So Crowder agrees that biological men can be women? I never knew he'd affirm transwomen just because of Sam Seder.

[@Axxilles]

😂😂😂😂😂🤣😜😜😜🤣🤣😂😂

[@fleecejohnson9813]

Fucking based Seder. On Chowder's show for 5 minutes and already got him to say trans rights.

[@toericabaker]

i appreciate you trying to make a goody good progressive joke but there's no such thing as a "biological man".. that's a transphobic term, because it implies you're "born" a gender, when society assigns it to you

[@thatlemonguy1107]

@@toericabaker It refers to biological sex.

[@Lopez-my1bo]

@@thatlemonguy1107 same thing

[@thehulk525]

Sam: How did you know I ended my show early? Steven: Ya Dumb and your staff hates you! This almost transcends the "you're fat" moment with Vaush.

[@reform-revolution]

crowder the coward is five years old without that dialogue tree to fall back on

[@Greyz174]

steven crowder is such a woman

[@Tester-sh1mn]

@@benshapiro9241 I bet 100 bucks your Mum doesn’t need the gun holsters either!

[@nickv1212]

@@reform-revolution Crowder the type to button mash Heavy Rain and only uses sarcastic in Fallout 4.

[@reform-revolution]

@@nickv1212 Press X to JASON crowder : YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[@ihatetrollingGaming]

"you're a small channel so i don't have to debate you" - man who has an entire series dedicated to debating random passersby on the street

[@epicmealtime]

It’s been great re-experiencing this amazing moment. It was so satisfying to see him cower.

[@_DeathDreams_]

Based epic meal time

[@willmckinney4959]

Vaush-EMT crossover episode when?

[@Jane-oz7pp]

how tf does Vaush have so many great content creators that watch his content? It shouldn't, but always does blow my mind.

[@shadypikacon2705]

based epic meal time

[@mirrorblues3882]

Based EMT

[@davitdavid7165]

Ethan just saying "i am dumb" is so good though. He understands what crowder is trying to do and is not blinded by his ego, which is why he double crosses him.

[@EdgieAlias]

I'm glad someone acknowledged this as well

[@eclock87]

Gotta give him that one. He knows he would end up looking stupid on a real debate so he does exactly what Crowder fears he would do. Still a cowardly move to agree to a 1 on 1 and back out.

[@EdgieAlias]

@@eclock87 We're testing ideologies against each other here, not measuring boxing skill.

[@xPooogle515]

@@eclock87 no one expects or wants Ethan to be a master debater on the issues lmao this was 100% a power move

[@HumanTooth]

@@xPooogle515 heh heh master bater

[@junjiito6298]

Crowder: I’ve never met more of a woman! Crowders wife: 😐😐😐😐😐

[@affordablecareactof]

JLP debate tactics

[@4doorsmoreguns193]

@Lucien Hicks homophobic jokes ok

[@alandgomez5905]

I'm sure she's use to this kind shit lol. Poor, poor woman 😄.

[@gamerinatrance3618]

@@4doorsmoreguns193 ?

[@PhyreI3ird]

@@4doorsmoreguns193 it's not homophobia to say a woman is probably sick of picking up after her very likely deeeeeply closeted yet homophobic spouse. Poor gal probably doesn't get any action from him as a result, ya know?

[@melodyariel7896]

He literally said Ethan was a layup, then refused to debate someone who comments on politics for a living. How does his fans not see that as a weak move.

[@teshkit456]

How can you sycophants not realize how weak a move it is to say you’ll debate someone on an issue and then bring in some random no body to talk about a different issue, instead.

[@bar0ke973]

@@teshkit456 a nonody that crowder knew of and feared enough to have people monitering his stream to avoid him. H3H3 wasn't a badass for bringing in sam, but crowder was a bitch that ran from a real debate with his tail tucked between his legs.

[@cornmaster5522]

@@teshkit456 how is someone with a million subscribers a nobody? Aren’t the college kids he debates are nobodies?

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@teshkit456 Cope

[@LOLGamingIndustry]

@@teshkit456 cmon slugger, you're smarter than this cmonnnnnn

[@luismurillo5855]

Crowder: "I won't debate Seder, he's irrelevant and beneath me!"...makes a career out of debating random college students.

[@salem1281]

Yeah, he does this with the college kids too. Any time one of those kids are totally destroying him, he feigns offence at the smallest comment in order to make them leave. It's fucking embarrassing to watch!

[@dlg78]

College students aren't debating him though and hijacking his show just to try and boost their profile. That's the glaring difference.

[@luismurillo5855]

@@dlg78 That has nothing to do with what I said. My point is Crowder claims he won't debate Seder because he's irrelevant and not big enough, yet he'll still debate random college students, so he's obviously being dishonest. Do you disagree with that? Yes or no? try to answer without pivoting. Oh and why would Seder need to "boost" his profile? You realize he's one of the biggest lefties on KZbin, right? Oh and that thing you're accusing Seder of doing (hijacking his show), Crowder did the same thing to Cenk at a conference, only there he didn't make actual arguments, he just did a really bad, cringey impersonation (probably because he knew he would get wrecked in an actual debate)

[@gamerinatrance3618]

@@dlg78 Ethan offered the airtime to Sam.

[@nikconomos]

@@luismurillo5855 they actually aren’t the same thing at all. ‘Change My Mind’ isn’t two people knowingly preparing for a debate on a particular subject, this was! Ethan was extremely disingenuous here and just a flat out lier as HE agreed to debate himself which he didn’t at all so I don’t know why it’s even being called a debate. This is just typical lefties tactics as you aren’t talking about what Ethan did. Maybe watch the entire unedited video and that may change your mind (no pun intended 😂)

[@gazelle1467]

The irony is that in Crowder making so much noise about Seder, a lot more people have now heard of him.

[@chrismartin3197]

The funny thing is I’ve heard of Sam before, but not h3 until this happened

[@teshkit456]

Still don’t know who Seder is and really don’t care about him. Crowder was in the right for not entertaining this sham of a “debate”

[@infinkeo_archived]

@@teshkit456 still makes him an even harder coward, if he’s so good at owning the left he should’ve taken care of the debate easily

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@infinkeo_archived That dudes coping in EVERY comment thread..

[@ariandynas]

Yah it is a sham. I mean why won't Crowder just grow a pair and debate Seder? He went running with his tail between his legs before we could get a debate! ;)

[@esbenm6544]

Is this his life from now on? Sam Seder possibly lurking around every corner, disguised as a random college student. Just face the music, Steven.

[@KarlSnarks]

It's basically going to be that Shia LaBeouf song from a few years back but with Sam Seder 😂

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

@@KarlSnarks It's the middle of the day and your phone is dead. You sit at your "Change My Mind" table, unable to check your notes. Suddenly, out of the corner of your eye you spot him -- _"Samuel Seder."_

[@angusmarch1066]

@@sluttyMapleSyrup he's in the crowd about thirty feet back. He takes out his notes and then breaks into a sprint, HES GAINING ON YOU. SAMUEL SEDER.

[@eugene12310mobile]

The fact that Sam Seder looks like someone who can just be there on campus for his Masters or PhD (for a 50 year old man he looks like he is in his early to mid 30s) he could probably disguise and ambush debate Crowder lmao

[@esbenm6544]

@@angusmarch1066 Now it's dark and you seem to have lost him . But you're hopelessly lost yourself. Stranded with Samuel. You creep silently through the underbrush. A-ha! In the distance. It's Pappa Crowder's cottage. There's a light on. Hope! You move stealthily toward it. But your leg! Ah! It's caught in a bear trap!

[@SadeN_0]

Crowder's initial, instant reaction was the genuine one. "Oh no, it's Sam Seder! What a fucking nightmare!" - Crowder, in an unironic state of panic. QED

[@JonathanMandrake]

funny thing is, that is a german running gag in regards to Andreas Scheuer (a politician) and Newton, ever since the Anstalt, a great cabaret show, has made Newton be the voice of reason and science to school Scheuer for his idiocy

[@JonathanMandrake]

"Not the Newton" except in German

[@akira1086]

THE WAY CROWDER'S VOICE CHANGED THE MOMENT ETHAN SAID HE CAME PREPARED, HE SOUNDED SO FUCKING NERVOUS LMAO It's like he had an idea of what might happen and his ass clenched hard enough to shatter a Nokia 3310 phone

[@DeadMarine1980]

I was in the Marines for 6 years and I haven't seen ambush this sick ever.

[@Axxilles]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@trevermarco9206]

I think you wish you were in the Marines for 6 years

[@occamsblunderbuss]

Of course you were. Because people in the Marines go around telling everyone that they were in the Marines.😂

[@Fr0stbite1801]

>mfw chowder simps immediately disrespect a veteran because you don't agree with them :')))

[@trevermarco9206]

@@Fr0stbite1801 What if I told you I was a combat veteran myself

[@squall7722]

Idk, Crowder says Sam isnt funny but his Little League analogy was funnier than anything Crowder has said in his entire life and sam didnt even need to use a black-face-voice

[@christianbustillos4066]

Black face voice?? Which one is it you dummy, black face or black man voice?

[@Kittsim]

@@christianbustillos4066 People that did minstrel shows also used ridiculous voices to depict black people. So it’s not that far fetched to say black face voice.

[@squall7722]

@@christianbustillos4066 Looks like other people already answered your question. Specifically, I am referring to Crowders poor attempt at a joke recently -- the one suggesting Black farmers grow meth crops and such

[@ripyungbruh8157]

@@christianbustillos4066 naah black face voice because that’s what it is.

[@HeronSight]

Sams dry humour is God tier, I like to think it bleeds over to John h benjamin when they riff as friends

[@IndyBrainWave]

"I'm Crowder, and the Left won't debate me. What? Sam Seder is on the line?" "Tell him I changed my mind."

[@Ascend777]

😆

[@Ascend777]

@@EviLLivEClan H3 was still there ready to debate. Coward ran because H3 called in backup.

[@cahan557]

@@EviLLivEClan if his beliefs and principles are solid and well-founded, why does it matter who challenges them?

[@bruced09]

@@EviLLivEClan the point was that Crowded says the left won’t debate him and when someone on the left shows up to do so, he runs for the hills

[@someonerandom8552]

Cold feet Crowder

[@aegonthedragon7303]

“I am inevitable.”- Sam Seder LMAO

[@scottiejohnson2639]

LOL 😂 Facts!!! 💯 Love it best comment I’ve seen all day 😂

[@banonKING]

"Do you see?"

[@legzdiamond2356]

Wait…Did Seder actually say that!!??

[@zuresei]

Think that's that a callback Tim Pool comparing him to Thanos? Because if so that's fuckin' legendary.

[@Mizar007]

If only Sam could snap his fingers and make Steven Crowder disappear

[@urmother1233]

I wish Michael Brooks was alive to see this, he would be having a field day.

[@zillafire101]

He's smiling down from Lefty Valhalla.

[@sillyultroid]

rest in peace, we all know how hard he would be laughing at this.

[@Samuel_Morchin]

The blood-sports... They warm my heart.

[@DeadMarine1980]

No, he's laughing right now.

[@hrtvolleyball01]

Isn’t that the truth 😕

[@estebancomulet]

Saw a great line somewhere "Crowder claims to be against communism, but just got publicly owned".

[@beverycarefuljohn586]

Common joke for every conservative who loses a debate

[@beverycarefuljohn586]

@Colby fixed it

[@christianc.christian5025]

Awesome.

[@TerribleTrioProductions]

@Colby no, it's loses.

[@Axxilles]

😂😂😂😂😂😁😜😜

[@helldeirch]

those people who's calling ethan a coward just don't get it, he lives for drama like this, he doesn't want to debate, crowder got played

[@worldview3182]

Right ?? How many times does Ethan have to say he’s not a debater .. how can you defend crowder after this . He only wants to debate people that aren’t actual debators. He’s wearing a “ Fight like Hell” shirt and can’t even show himself on screen when Sam shows up. You can’t write this stuff lol

[@highlyelasticpunchingbag9423]

crowder: "ETHAN IS A COWARD >:(" also crowder: cherrypicks unexperienced people and yet runs away when experienced people show up

[@ariandynas]

@@worldview3182 Because like most predatory animals he wants an easy meal that won't challenge him much.

[@acreativename2781]

Ethan literally admits that the reason is that he is too stupid, that's not what a coward is. Crowder on the other hand won't admit that he is too scared and instead searches for excuses, *that's* cowardice :)

[@50733Blabla1337]

@@6ftmouse349 Yea no shot I give that waste of space more engagement. Can go play in traffic for all I care.

[@michaelmckeown5396]

Crowder: "you only have one million subs, why would I talk to you?" Also Crowder: "hey there naive college students, want to change my mind on a certain political topic?"

[@billieeisenhower406]

and what's funny is that everyone including crowder's audience want him to debate sam seder.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

He only debates people who are inexperienced or unprepared, preferably both.

[@deadlyfremen7447]

If he’s only got a million subs and isn’t worth talking to then he should have an easy time right? It’s like a professional boxer refusing to fight someone because they haven’t had enough fights. He’s either a coward, a fraud or both.

[@blargh3428]

I've never seen him debate anyone worth debating like ever. He dodges everytime he goes against someone that is smart or has media experience and now he finally got confronted and he fucking panicked.

[@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy]

@@blargh3428 conservatives only debate people on their payroll or inner circle, they also like to make propoganda bugging students to prove college is dumb. They literally are unable to get confronted by their peers. Honesty and accountability hurt them

[@randomnamegbji]

Sam: "why do you..." Crowder: "Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam, can I answer your question, Sam Sam you're interrupting me, Sam Sam Sam just let me just answer your question!"

[@t0yo]

Classic deflection

[@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461]

Yes because what they do is ask a bunch of questions and then forget every single one they asked you. & they think they're actually beating you in a debate while all they're doing is giving a monologue. by asking questions with skewed statistics and false premises, then they actually think they proved you wrong by talking over you and not letting you respond. People like you guys here are with you hates a blabbermouth a racist and idiots H3 H3 projects. Dude we don't got to think about it let's just listen to the government about sticking sit in our a$$es

[@TheWerttyFiles]

@@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461 bro nobody understands the point you're trying to make

[@soltier8965]

@@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461 Did you have a stroke typing on that?

[@hamburburzz]

@@alvarovargasbang-wutang8461 bro what…?

[@Victor-X]

Crowder could have weaseled out of this situation if he just left immediately or manned-up, yet he _STILL_ somehow managed to pick the absolute worst option: throwing a temper tantrum in front of millions of people.

[@raymondfowler6380]

I agree. If he was more civil and just said something like how “this wasn’t what I agreed to do” then we wouldn’t look this bad.

[@tedcomet3121]

Not like Ethan lied about it being a debate between just the two of them or somthing

[@cambriakilgannon12]

The toxic masculinity is keeping him from doing the demure, reserved thing. It's like he only knows projecting an image of dominance and strength.

[@Gloomdrake]

@@cambriakilgannon12 too bad his ideal of masculinity is being a man child

[@Dalle333]

This was exactly my thought, if Crowder had been like "This is not what we agreed to do Ethan. why do you bring Sam Seder on? I thought this was between us" and dealt with it in a calm manner he could actually have left the call without dealing with Sam and still kept some face, instead he throws a temper tantrum....

[@demonhoopa]

Crowder and his sidekick literally filibustered the whole time. They were so afraid of Sam they talked hysterically non stop so Sam couldn’t be heard. Then accused HIM of “interrupting”

[@hyperion3145]

Crowder: "Seder is still streaming, he isn't going to be there." Seder: "I am three parallel universes ahead of you."

[@Juniversal]

I like to think of Sam Seder as Freddy Kreuger that shows up in Crowders dreams lmao...

[@neosporin5608]

Theory... Sam Seder is actually a time traveller!! Present Sam didn't actually attend the debate!!!! TIME TRAVEL CONFIRMED 😊😊😊🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@idontwantcorporateretaliat6301]

checkers/4D chess

[@kylewatson4193]

Checkmate Chowder

[@wrigh2uk]

People on the right: “leftists won’t debate us” *Sam seder enters the chat* the right: “you don’t have enough followers”

[@FiryaFYI]

that is a weak argument anyway. followers is irrelevant. he weiseld his way uninvited. that was reason enough to cut it.

[@lustrazor44]

Now they’re saying Sam just isn’t worth the time cuz he’s a liar. Ok then. Expose his lies to the world and flex that 5head brain. Oh? Not worth your time? Ok keep changing college diapers the

[@theultimatetempest1918]

Also, Stevie still has unfinished business with Potholer54. Where's the debate?

[@FiryaFYI]

@@lustrazor44 he dosnt like sam specifically. from what ive learned yesterday, almost nobody likes him. if hes being a pice of shit and nobody want to talk to him that is his fault. ethen said stupid shit, and crowder offered him to stand behind his words and clarify. out of the blue lie to crowder and expect him to just go along id disingenuous. and stupid.

[@EE-gv9wt]

@@FiryaFYI if you don't like someone you should be more motivated to humiliate them in the marketplace of ideas. You don't run away from things you hate, you run away from things you fear. Sam has openly said he doesn't like crowder yet he doesn't run away from talking to him, or any of the other right wingers who don't like him.

[@kyoungt14]

Steven Crowder: “Very strange of you to end your show early last week.” Also Steven “I like to go on college campuses and debate students.” Crowder: “The reason I didn’t want to debate is because my audience would say “Sam who??””

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

No no, you have it mistaken. He says here "Change My Mind" isn't "debating." Apparently Change My Mind is...different...somehow...than debating, ;-)

[@N3XTREVOLUTION]

Crowder can debate children but a grown ass man is too hard 😂

[@generalmartok3990]

Like where's the line? Ethan has 2 million fewer subs than Crowder, yet Crowder was okay debating him. MR still has over a million subs, which isn't nothing. Crowder actually challenged Kyle Kulinski to a debate when he only had around ~200k subs. To say nothing of the fact that Crowder built his career on ambush debate tactics. Rationalizing this is all meaningless anyway since Crowder admitted to monitoring the MR streams.

[@darkcrystalmagik3369]

@@generalmartok3990 so Martok did Kyle decline debating Crowder? How did he justify that?

[@generalmartok3990]

@@darkcrystalmagik3369 Pretty sure he did but I'm not sure why. Don't follow Kyle that much, was just aware of the Twitter drama around it at the time.

[@amyheath6324]

Ethan yelling “don’t bail you coward” as Crowder nervously laughs and says Sam has shark eyes is my favorite thing ever

[@SeanLaMontagne]

I like to imagine that Steven was nervous when Ethan said he was prepared, not because he was expecting Sam, but because he fears debating somebody who is prepared.

[@Axxilles]

Lol, the voice change was a God tier moment. I haven't heard someone sound that suddenly nervous since 8th grade listening to people give class presentations!

[@SeanLaMontagne]

@@Axxilles "Oh this is a NIGHTMARE"

[@SeanLaMontagne]

@@Axxilles 🤣 holy shit, I bet Steven has had that dream before

[@Axxilles]

@@SeanLaMontagne What? A dream where is time for his presentation but he hasn't prepared, is naked, and Sam Seder is the teacher? 😂😂😂

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

Yes, he said it himself. He said he was expecting "a fan of Seder" and that alone was freaking him out.

[@Jane-oz7pp]

Ethan: I'm an idiot, so here's someone smarter Stephen and Dave: What, are you too stupid to debate us? Ethan: Yes. So debate Sam, he's actually informed. Stephen: *malds infinitely*

[@dead_yami]

@Gobzo Raon for orchestrating a goof on crowder? how embarrassing

[@jacksoncrenshaw8922]

@Gobzo Raon you are such a nerd lmao

[@dead_yami]

@@Acesahn why were you “always doing” something without even knowing if you were correct about it

[@Zyberetro]

@Gobzo Raon It's called being humble and being open about your flaws. It's genuinely a commendable trait that more public figures need to have.

[@Samtastic79]

@@Acesahn than you must think crowder is ten times more cowardly needing to be tricked in order to debate an actual debater.

[@SpaceForceCommander]

Coldfeet Crowder in drag: “You wouldn’t hit a woman, would you Sam?”

[@xray5984]

Stolen but still funny.

[@rawalshadab3812]

"The hammer of justice is unisex, ma'am"

[@kaybaumann4989]

Hell yeah, BatB Batman.

[@coolerrocket]

@@rawalshadab3812 batman!!!!!

[@rawalshadab3812]

@@coolerrocket Damn right

[@gabrielrobinson1279]

I'm contracturally obligated to bring up that Steven Crowder was called not a comedian by Amy Schumer (Amy *fucking* Schumer), and it *hurt* him

[@puffinatheart5565]

he's so fragile lol

[@davitdavid7165]

"Leftists are so sensitive"

[@gabrielrobinson1279]

@@davitdavid7165 I think part of it is their idea of sensitivity is "freaking out" cause most of these gen ys and zs (me included) got roped in because of the cringe comps, among other things. They may not see being pensive and vengeful as sensitive, when in reality it's the most (to borrow a phrase from them) """""beta""""" thing you could do.

[@davitdavid7165]

@@gabrielrobinson1279 BETA

[@ChuckyMarks]

@@gabrielrobinson1279 Baaaaaaaaaay-daaaaaaaaaa (I love black people)

[@roachofdoom1234]

“My audience would ask Sam who?” Not after this they won’t

[@billieeisenhower406]

sam seder's presence is enough to explode their conservative heads like in The Boys

[@CitizenVan]

@Ben Woodcock I mean, that kinda IS what debate is for, actually. Debate is actually a pretty inefficient way of arriving at truth, it's mostly just a posturing competition where you try to make yourself seem smart and strong and the other person weak and dumb. Why do you think Crowder prefers debating random college students rather than people who want to debate him and are actually prepared to?

[@Zelorp]

So by that logic, nobody should debate anybody with less popularity than them? Come on dude, that’s pretty weak.

[@roachofdoom1234]

@Ben Woodcock wait are you responding to me? In that case that’s dumb as fuck. Not only does crowder only debate college kids, but he DOESNT call out Seder for supposedly wanting to increase his stock because he’s IGNORED Sam until now. Can you imagine a left wing figure using an excuse like that to debate someone on the right? We all know you’d be changing your tune dude

[@purryflof3983]

@Ben Woodcock >obviously to increase his own stock cope. you have no basis for this claim, but only use it to justify crowder's blatant cowardice. firstly, seder has 1 million subs, he is not in some desperate need for clout. secondly, he was also almost exclusively willing to talk about actual issues while crowder only attacked and belittled him. actually debating him would be much less "rewarding" for seder clout-wise but instead we got this clown show where crowder embarrassed himself and the whole thing has gotten way more attention than otherwise. you have to inhale a serious amount of copium to think crowder actually cared about seder gaining popularity.

[@aidantheroux9728]

What is it with right wingers always saying “the left won’t debate me” but then bitching out of debates with real, experienced left leaning voices. For example, Candace Owens backed out from debating Kyle Kulinski at Politicon, Jordan Peterson refused to debate Richard Wolff, and of course Steven ducked Sam for a year and a half after getting cold feet.

[@carlosbisa3086]

@Lovro Harmic tbh I don't see anything wrong with what Ethan did. Crowder's entire thing is debating people. The whole "change my mind" gimmick is a big thing he does, but the catch is that he typically aims down. He likes to ambush people on the street, or in this case, a random podcast host who isn't involved with politics. If Steven's ideas are viable and able to be defended, it shouldn't matter who he is debating against, and I think that was the point here. He has no idea what he's talking about so his opinions are trash, therefore he has no idea how to actually argue them and trying to do so *legitimately* would reveal the game. I don't think Ethan was ever interested in hosting any sort of debate with Crowder; I think this was legitimately just to see what he would do when put up against someone who actually knew what they were doing.

[@AlanGarciaC.1093]

I'm not familiar with those cases (except that I don't respect Candace as a political pundit). But can someone explain to me why the hell would Crowder give Seder the time of day? Just... WHY? Seder is a complete joke. You guys do not look good siding with Sam. Pretty much anyone else is much more respectable. Kulinsky, Pakman, Destiny, Vaush, etc.

[@andresgagge6977]

@Lovro Harmic My dude, Ethan LITERALLY admits he's not into politics and isn't very smart, why da fuk would Crowder ever want to debate him and then run away like a little bitch from someone who's actually experienced?

[@andresgagge6977]

@@AlanGarciaC.1093 Why shouldn't he? If Seder is such a joke than Crowder should have no trouble exposing that🤷🏻‍♀️

[@Sharkamfss]

@Lovro Harmic by your logic, Crowder running away is a coward move because he knows Sam is smarter than him.

[@plaguerat5911]

I love that Crowder just starts shouting when Sam comes on. Sam's just taking it all in, what a legend.

[@VMonkies]

Lol, yeah Sam's used to to it, so he doesn't lose his chill that easily. Watch any of the debates he's done with libertarians in the past and just marvel at how they become unglued as Sam just sits there and debunks their points and just stays supernaturally calm.

[@plaguerat5911]

@@VMonkies its a bloody superpower Im telling you

[@VMonkies]

@@plaguerat5911 lol yeah it is, I don't think I'd be as calm and collected if I were in his shoes.

[@joshuaDstarks]

It just make him stronger, all the squirming. He relishes in it.

[@blargh3428]

@@VMonkies Honestly Vaush could learn more from the way Sam and Pakman talk to people. That cold and calm detachment they have makes them look real good in debate especially when the opponent is being offensive. It works especially against offensive people because their whole schtick is making you mad and it makes the dude look like a child when it doesn't work.

[@mdaddy775]

"Little Leprechaun co-host" - Genuinely the first time I've burst out laughing this year.

[@jaimayy]

H3 is fucking hilarious when he says jokes like that

[@steve94183]

Coward was so unhinged in this. He was literary holding back tears and just screaming like a toddler. The Co-host running in to take the camera off Steven was so surreal I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

[@g.j.9515]

he was shitting his pants lmao

[@joshuaDstarks]

Piss poor damage control in real time.

[@j.rlouis3756]

Might have actually been shaking or having a panic attack. Horribly insecure individual.

[@spicy.srokasauce7962]

Watched it on stream last night and thought I was having a fever dream. Just about fell on the floor when the co host scurries to fix the mic and put headphones on

[@harutosunaa3881]

Cowar wit Crowder

[@theawesomewillyt]

The absolute terror on Crowder’s face when he says “Oh no! Sam Seder!” is just *chef’s kiss*

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

I love his freudian slip "what a nightmare!" Yes, Steven, this is a nightmare for you. Retreat, retreat. ;-)

[@Juniversal]

Imagine Sam showing to a "Change My Mind" event disguised with a hat and covid mask. When standing face to face with Crowder Sam rips the hat and mask off with a big grin plastered on his face as Crowder proceeds to turn and run in horror ala. the teens from the Friday the 13th movies when Jason Voorhees shambles into their camp.

[@agentandersonwick8796]

Sad thing is Sam Seder isn’t even smart, crowder is just that bad. Sam Seder, David pakman, vaush and tyt are a bunch of ideologist with no action. Especially Sam Seder, he wishes he was Rachel Maddie so bad

[@dream-lh4pc]

@@agentandersonwick8796 wait their job is meant to inform others.... Of course they aren't going to instate action like a senate person because that's meant for politicians who can actually uphold leadership. It's like saying a teacher who uses sources to teach others how to start a business is a fraud just because they haven't started a business. Simply informing others isn't a job to be looked down upon

[@agentandersonwick8796]

@@dream-lh4pc lol Sam Seder informs others of it not being the right time for Medicare for all and outright lies about losing the speakership of the house to a Republican. If that idiot would have been around for the women’s suffrage movement, women would still have no rights till this day. Women’s rights was dismissed time and time again. A bill important bill won’t be approved first try. That’s what Sam doesn’t understand. He’s a fool who rather do nothing because of personalities he doesn’t like. Dudes a neoliberal

[@kaneda4414]

Disappointed Ethan didn’t upload this on Fathers Day to honor the healthy father-son relationship between Seeder and Crowder

[@TheBlarggle]

Seder, man.

[@HandlingYou]

@@TheBlarggle Not after that banging😏

[@godofspacetime333]

Crowder wearing a shirt that says “fight like hell” really fighting like hell to get out of his worst nightmare.

[@LiLLaLa707]

This will never not be hilarious...plus the holsters 😂

[@blakewisswell]

When they were asking Sam to remove his glasses the co host says "or if there is a soul" that's antisemitism clear as day.

[@thebloodredeye8553]

The leprechaun said that?

[@peachy_lili]

it was a book reference but it was also cleverly veiled antisemitism. that's how they get away with it in the sunlight

[@blakewisswell]

@@thebloodredeye8553 yeah

[@blakewisswell]

@@peachy_lili the rabbit part is the book reference. not soul.

[@frances8971]

when will conservatives realize that we KNOW ethan did some sneaking around to pull this off. crowder is an awful person and i couldn’t care less that ethan was being “dishonorable” or whatever. i don’t give a shit about a man who calls gay men pedophiles and has made so many racist caricatures on his show. he had it coming, plus it was funny as hell and i loved it lol

[@KARKAT420]

Exactly, it’s also really weird how they are pretending that Ethan is some kind of leftist-debate icon? Like what? Not one person cares that he didn’t actually debate Crowder. Anyone with half a brain should have realized that he was only there for the memes. I do enjoy watching Crowder fans cry though.

[@Loooooooooooooooool]

I love how Crowder is constantly called out as a coward and he has not retort for it. I wonder if any of his viewers saw this and had second thoughts about the kind of man he is. He was laughing over Sam the whole time, nothing funny was even said he just wanted to not let him be heard.

[@ariandynas]

One need not fight honorably with someone who has none.

[@ariandynas]

@Kal Klenkem When dealing with someone who has no honesty or honor, you need not extend it to them. Crowder's a good example of an honorless dog.

[@50733Blabla1337]

@Kal Klenkem Mate you just made that account to comment you dont like crowder? Main acc probably youtube member from crowder haha

[@alexanderbelstra26]

I love that holster-wearing, "I'm a tough guy" Crowder is pants-shittingly terrified of Seder who has a stutter and generally keeps a calm demeanor when debating. Also love that the right considers it "bullying" when you fact check them and don't let them talk over you.

[@tonyreimer6804]

“You’re not being bullied You’re picking a fight And losing that fight”

[@RemixedVoice]

I just don't understand why Crowder won't debate him. He's obviously afraid that he will lose and his grift will be exposed; but, what happened here is like, objectively worse than that lol. Like Sam said, he formally debated Kirk (and won), but clearly Kirk still has plenty of fame and money, you know? Also, what happened last night will generate infinitely more memes and ridicule, than if he just formally debated Sam at some stuffy boring political convention. Trust me, millions and millions of more people watch Ethan, Steven, and Sam informally, than they would tune into a formal political debate at some convention center.

[@tonyreimer6804]

@@RemixedVoice that’s why you can tell that this was a panicked decision wrought out of true fear and cowardice. A rational mind would think “Well, this sucks, but I’m stuck and I’ll claim I was railroaded to my audience after” But Crowder wasn’t thinking rationally. He was a scared little bully in a playground who was picking on a little kid and got confronted by that kid’s older brother. His flight response kicked in and he needed to do anything he could to get out of that situation.

[@e115mastery]

The fact that Crowder tried to call Sam out for not being funny whilst also being a failed comedian was unironically the hardest I've laughed at anything Crowder has ever said.

[@Tester-sh1mn]

Sam barely has a stutter Crowder on the other hand: “You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question?” “Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Whoaoaoaoaoh! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam!”

[@Hannahgs]

“No one on the left wants to debate” **someone on the left wants to debate “NO NOT LIKE THAT”

[@teshkit456]

Funny how Ethan is on the left and chickened out of debating him. Ethan knows he would have lost, so he backed out and brought someone else in. How pathetic can you be.

[@Hannahgs]

@@teshkit456 What’s cowardly is only wanting to debate people that have no experience debating and have no history of even talking about political subjects in a way that shows they would be able to engage in debate. If someone like the quartering asked vaush to debate, and then when vaush showed up he had like Jordan Peterson as his backup. I’d laugh cause like that’s silly but if vaush ran away and didn’t even attempt to talk to Peterson, he’d be just as much as a coward. Even though it’s not a great comparison because Peterson has a hundred times the audience of Sam Seder.

[@teshkit456]

@@Hannahgs Ethan talks about politics plenty, that’s why the whole thing started because Ethan was talking about covid and it’s policies. He also agreed to debate Crowder so I’m not sure how cowardly it is to enter into a mutual agreement like that. But whatever, you’re too ingrained in your ideology to admit maybe crowder is in right, sometimes.

[@Hannahgs]

@@teshkit456 woooooosh

[@teshkit456]

@@Hannahgs Oh no, I got r/whoooosh’d how will I ever recover for this nonargument???

[@variancewithin]

"he has a team? He can bring the team!" Sam is such a fucking Savage.

[@paperremix]

One of my favorite lines

[@occamsblunderbuss]

Are you one of the 3,000 people who still watch his videos?

[@kanekiken7808]

@@occamsblunderbuss Are you still coping?

[@gamerinatrance3618]

@@occamsblunderbuss Man you really need a lot of copium don't you?

[@thatindiandude4602]

@@occamsblunderbuss Is crowder paying his lackies? I am not dogpiling, because I would love to make some more money on the side

[@sonny061188]

This furthered proved Crowder is not confident about his political positions. When he is not in a controlled environment where he can manipulate and dictate the conversation you see how unaware and cowardly he is.

[@stephenhartley2853]

his "political position" is payed for, like shapiro

[@incog.nyto.]

I find it pretty funny considering how ballsy he is to show up to random colleges and make himself a clown publicly. I guess his love of flexing on college students outweighs is cowardly fear of actually having his views put in question.

[@thebloodredeye8553]

@@stephenhartley2853 Shapiro as crappy as he is a least believes in something. Crowder is just a drone being controlled by his daddy.

[@SuperSayinSolidSnek]

Yep, he wouldn't even engage in a debate about pot with a friend on Joe Rogans podcast.

[@zillafire101]

Did you see that one college kid that Destiny reacted to debating him? Crowder got so ass pained the only thing he could do was cry the kid called him retarded after losing every argument.

[@bengallup9321]

"My audience is 50 times bigger" starting to think Chowder is incapable of doing basic math

[@KG9551]

1 million is 50 times smaller than 5.5 million in Chowderworld.

[@marcelsansalone3829]

He literally kept saying a 40th of the audience.......divide your 5m subs by 40 and then tell me what the number of subs your req is steven lmsao

[@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny]

I think Crowder was more referring to the amount of views, not subscribers. Subscriber count is a really poor metric of weighing a channels popularity. If you look at Seders channel, he has several times the amount of uploads, with relatively few views. In fact, the average view count on seders videos is like 3-10k. Now if you look at crowders channel, his videos have hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views. And with far fewer uploads. Based on that, yes I would say Crowders channel is definitely far more popular.

[@FiryaFYI]

Sam gets 7k views per vid. Crwoder gets 1.2. you are correct, steven was wrong. its more like 171 times bigger.

[@bengallup9321]

@@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny keep inhaling that copium lmao. Also it's completely irrelevant. Audience size has nothing to do with intelligence and merit. That's something a kid in middle school would say. You Chowderheads are endlessly embarrassing.

[@0ptimuscrime]

He’s so flustered that he can’t even speak coherently. His point about Mike Tyson doesn’t make sense. Shouldn’t it be “I can call out Mike Tyson, that doesn’t mean he’s ducking me.”?

[@isaiahK0V]

Love how, in that analogy, he is Mike Tyson

[@calastyphon4081]

I almost felt like he was calling Sam Seder Mike Tyson in how he wouldn't even show his face on camera 😆 Similar to how he'd run away from Mike Tyson

[@johnbacile9495]

You know Mike Tyson would go at him if he kept saying it and he would just run

[@calastyphon4081]

@@johnbacile9495 "Ethan why'd you bring Mike Tyson to my studio? I thought you were a stand up guy"

[@skybite]

Basically he changed the goal post

[@adamhanson5565]

Imagine Stephen Crowder getting bodied in a debate with Ryan's Toy Review.

[@SeanStrife]

Come on, man. That'd be like dropping a tactical nuke in a barrel full of carp. Ryan's Toy Review could get a better debate with a broom.

[@Metonymy1979]

Take my money

[@joshuaDstarks]

My niece would appreciate this one.

[@jasonfuller2734]

Lol

[@JukeboxWithJay]

🤣🤣

[@_DeathDreams_]

Sam Seder didn't even need to say a thing before his mere presence put Crowder into self-destruction mode

[@ult8660]

when crowder first talks to Ethan, he seems like a terrified, little boy trying to question his dad’s opinions edit: why are crowder fans coping so hard, I'm just pointing out his demeanor and body language at the beginning bro

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

To be fair, I feel like a lot of people in the debating sphere do that. They can be super abrasive or edgy or foul-mouthed, whatever, but when they dive in for a debate, they put on a sliver and a slather of decorum. That said...Crowder unquestionably sounded nervous in that first segment, you're right 100%. That's the funny about his whole attitude. Crowder called Ethan a "layup," implying he'd rout Ethan point for point and it wouldn't even be close. But Crowder knows that an average college student doesn't have media experience and are easily beaten. Ethan HAS media experience, and despite Ethan blatantly admitting that he's not a good debater, Crowder could still end up looking foolish, so yeah...he was definitely scared of the unexpected variables there, no doubt. :-)

[@generalmartok3990]

He was literally white-knuckling his wrists to keep from shaking before Sam even appeared. God imagine being Steven Crowder and waking up this morning. Majority Report is going to be delicious today.

[@prajwaljayaraj5887]

Crowder's first words when he saw Sam were, "Oh my god, this is a fucking nightmare."

[@MUSHROOMAN4]

Sorta like when Ethan first saw crowder he introduced sam and then ran and hid in mommy’s room.

[@prajwaljayaraj5887]

@@MUSHROOMAN4 Look he simply agreed with Crowder say8jg that he is indeed a layup, so instead he got someone that isn't, because unlike Crowder in this situation, Ethan wasn't acting smug or full of shit.

[@beeohbee]

Crowder: I'm not ducking you, you're just beneath me. Sam who? Also Crowder: I specifically based my schedule on your show to make sure I wouldn't run into you.

[@Matthew_Murray]

Crowder: You can’t defeat me Ethan: I know but he can…

[@SHlNRlKlARU]

*Shocked Randy Orton face meme*

[@Mercy5783]

Steven: "I've never met more of a woman"... Hmmm, what's that say about his "wife" then?!? Why does Crowder insist on owning and insulting himself?!? Is insulting his own wife something that's considered a "sign of intellect" to his audience?!? Why is he calling a biological man a "woman"?!? I thought he believed that isn't possible... Otherwise he's trying to use "woman" as an insult, revealing his misogyny... How can people be so stupid that they think he's smart or makes any sense at all?!?

[@dillonmuldoon639]

He’s so misogynistic he thinks calling someone a woman is an insult

[@greanbeen2816]

Don’t search for meaning in the ramblings of insanity

[@navonmyhand7999]

Wait... he has a wife?

[@RuminatingRaptor]

Chowder is a moron’s version of smart.

[@puckerings]

You can actually see how nervous he gets once Ethan says that he "prepared." We know that Crowder was already concerned about Seder appearing, which is why he made sure Sam's show had started before doing this. But he starts wringing his hands together, and you can hear the nerves in his voice as he's talking before the big reveal. It's glorious.

[@greensquare6235]

He expresses his intellectual cowardice with his words and actions constantly but I've never seen him express it with an involuntary action before. I'm genuinely surprised at how traumatising this was for him.

[@christianc.christian5025]

@@greensquare6235 I can’t believe that I overestimated him enough to think that he’d debate him but just dick around and dodge… But he just flat out ran like a pussy.

[@justinokraski3796]

he also gets Crowder to drop his guard a little bit with the Spartan thing

[@dlg78]

Crowder says on the feed, 'I bet Ethan will do anything not to do the debate, either bring on a fan or that Seder guy'. Crowder knew in advance, he called it to the letter. No wonder he was so excited about it and went into full on roast mode. Ethan just showed in one fell swoop he had nothing, and Seder got jilted once again!

[@greensquare6235]

@@dlg78 He trembled like a bitch.

[@eyangamedud3293]

This wasn't a debate. This was a one-sided discord riot.

[@jotabeas22]

We should make this a running online gag, definitely. Anytime Crowder is outside his show, someone tries to plug Sam in, even as a recording - who cares? Let's just piss the Chowder crybaby.

[@jussiklemetti3709]

Sam should provide a variety of clips that people can use to fake Sam being on a live connection to see how fast Crowder runs.

[@beepbopboop7727]

You can call in the second half of Sams show.

[@Hipno702]

@@jussiklemetti3709 when people said the sam bit was prerecorded cause he left early to be on H3H3 I thought they literally meant that he prerecorded the whole debate segment because Crowder is that predictable that he could just make “paint by numbers” responses and they would follow Crowder’s reaction perfectly

[@jussiklemetti3709]

@@Hipno702 Just a soundboard for H3 to pick the correct responses to predictable talking points.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

The ultimate troll would be AOC offering to go on his show and then once they are deep into the first topic AOC just walks off camera and Sam Sedar replaces her.

[@wolfganghumboldt4830]

I think the next step is clear: we must get the Majority Report channel several million more subscribers and then see what Crowder says next. You know what to do, comrades.

[@ee-ef8qr]

Their problems are views imo

[@worldview3182]

Crowder cant run from this forever . The problem and Sam will Only grow day by day

[@marcoparada6652]

@@worldview3182 BAD FAITH PODCAST proves Seder is inefficient. 2 hours of debating, and he can't deliver facts.

[@kingkarp7747]

Can we not refer to each other as comrades it makes anyone sound like those weirdos who like to Larp as communists from the Soviet Union.

[@wolfganghumboldt4830]

@@kingkarp7747 Nope. Don't care.

[@pluntchgunster6156]

Looks like Stevens comedy career is finally kicking off.

[@kevinb.2595]

Underrated reply

[@Natticus89]

@@miink1y yea he's literally a failed comedian, the thing he is accusing of Sam being here. Just like Ben Shapiro is a failed screenwriter. These guys are all bitter because they weren't good enough to break into their dream careers, and blame "The Left" for their lack of talent.

[@eddietheberniebro5503]

Another failed comedian like Dimmy Jore!

[@nunpho]

Omg I didn't know that he wanted to be a comedian 😂😂

[@Earthad23]

@@eddietheberniebro5503 or Sam Seder …

[@yelloweyeball]

If only Michael Brooks could have seen this. I can imagine him laughing so hard at this. In my mind, his laughter is echoing over the whole thing.

[@normtrooper4392]

It would be an existential cackle to breach the heavens

[@rzdanger]

Miss the guy. Michael Brooks is one of the reasons I keep listening to a lot of leftist materials.

[@fachriranu1041]

Dude..... dont make me cry again...

[@jo0rd73]

Please someone make an edit where dark souls boss music plays when Seder enters the call

[@neil2444]

Alternatively "O Fortuna" would do. ^_^

[@KarlSnarks]

OMG YES!!!

[@sluttyMapleSyrup]

_Seder of The Boreal Valley_

[@toast7969]

Genius

[@painovoimaton]

Mozart's Lacrimosa

[@I.amthatrealJuan]

This is the sequel to Larry King destroying Dave Rubin.

[@xenos_n.]

Damn I wish Michael Brooks was around to have seen both.

[@joshuaDstarks]

Still the coldest diss ever, answering that phone call.

[@xenos_n.]

@@BarnBurnerz it's as beautiful as this

[@taranullius9221]

Apt comparison. Rubin also runs away because when I commented on his channel after Larry died after getting COVID that I thought his rhetoric on the pandemic was harmful, they deleted it so goddamn fast.

[@taranullius9221]

Oh I just remembered they've disabled replies on the pinned comment on this video on Crowder's channel XD. I tried twice to call him a whimp XD

[@marquislewis6193]

The only sad thing is that Michael Brooks isn't with us to see this moment. His cackle would have been hysterical.

[@dumbdumb572]

For fuckin real, I never watched him much but as soon as I heard about this I immediately thought of Michael Brooks. Wish he could've seen this.

[@jeremiemarion3966]

@@dumbdumb572 I can't stop hearing his voice imitating Sam "Debate !"

[@vantahawk2834]

I'm not really theistic but just for this purpose I'd like to imagine he is watching from heaven right now, just rolling over the clouds in laughter.

[@Kaanfight]

He’s the one coordinating this from heaven

[@hustle_simmons]

Michael's definitely laughing his ass off from heaven.

[@tomharrison4020]

Loving the pro Crowder boys attempting to defend their crush this comment section. Keep flailing lads.

[@Spoot401]

The cope is strong with this one

[@teshkit456]

Just admit that your so blinded by your ideology, that you can’t admit when some Jew on your side did something dishonest.

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@teshkit456 The way you said “Jew” was fairly aggressive my guy…

[@mahatmarfigo]

@@teshkit456 crowder, is that you?

[@mc-ps-playa5569]

@@teshkit456 least antiemetic crowder fan

[@cnlu77]

I love that by defending Crowder, his fans are basically admitting that a 50-year old Jewish man can absolutely destroy a bigger man with emotionally-supportive gun holsters in a political debate.

[@therobotchickenMLP]

Lol emotional support gun holsters.

[@joshuaDstarks]

Not even the debate itself. Destroying the guy by j u s t showing up for one.

[@prajwaljayaraj5887]

Damn, he's 50? He looks 30

[@selenerahman4586]

@@prajwaljayaraj5887 Yeah, when I learned he was 50 I was shocked. Like Jesus Christ he looks so young. He looks younger than my 30 y/o brother.

[@sablemae8853]

He's like 35 guys. A guy has some grey hairs and everybody thinks he's a dinosaur

[@OwlEye2010]

You'd have to be a hardcore Crowder loyalist Stan to think Crowder came out of this looking good.

[@gamerinatrance3618]

Well they're definitely here, and malding real fucking bad XD

[@PhyreI3ird]

It's funny but also sad there are some in here defending him. Honestly though I believe there are those who aren't losing their minds in comments and are actually reconsidering stuff for a second.

[@FiryaFYI]

well.. if you are rooting for the guy who is running away then you have a different problem. its like calling the french victorious for losing all the wars lol

[@gamerinatrance3618]

@@FiryaFYI We're not, we're rooting for the guys who actually insisted multiple times on debating the issues while clam chowder melted down like the snowflake he is.

[@jason666king]

Or your first name is Tim, and your last name is Pool.

[@seahorsemafia]

The bait and switch was masterful. Slippery fools like Crowder are always able to posture and wiggle out of debating competent people. I love how amazingly satisfying this was. Based Ethan, based Sam, based DAN for pulling this off.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

I appreciate seeing this go down. Honestly, I am a bit disappointed that an actual DEBATE didn't happen, as that's what I really wanted to see, Sam and Crowder actually discuss the issues and watch Crowder flounder and falter. Hopefully, some of Crowder's fans see this and realize the truth about him anyway, even though Crowder is likely recording his video rebuttal right now reframing everything and acting like a deceived victim, and pushing the narrative that Ethan is "scared" to debate (even though Ethan literally says he's not a good debater). But we'll see. Crowder did look unquestionably bad here, for sure.

[@chillcapybaracitrus]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn yeah, he'll frame it as he only debates "honest" people and tricking him into this is not worth his time. Or some bs like that.

[@crushinnihilism]

Thats the problem isn't it? Ethan lied, and is so incompetent that he needs other people to form thoughts..and create drama so he can make money...which is the only thing Ethan does. If Crowder did this bait and switch people wouldve lost their minds.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@chillcapybaracitrus He already did that here! Quote "I won't debate people predicated on a lie." Before ranting and raving and then hanging up. ;-)

[@Lastrit_JME]

@@crushinnihilism Ethan was very honest about the fact that he doesn't have much knowledge about politics. He doesn't "need other people to form thoughts" He just isn't a politically knowledgable person.

[@JD-od6jh]

"They were looking for Trojan Hippos but didn't keep their eyes out for the horse." That's a great quote and i'm gonna be using that. That's just gold right there.

[@jd7634]

Vaush has to admit that this was WAY better than any Anime Twist/Ark that he has watched. What Ethan pulled here against Crowder was nothing short of Glorious.

[@TalkingSoup]

i love that crowder fans are clearly going around and mass disliking any left-leaning video talking about this "debate"

[@doctorbarber1]

How tragic that a dishonest unethical troll like Crowder got lied to and trolled himself. This event was truly the end of our innocence as a nation.

[@evaun1t165]

@@doctorbarber1 no that happened when liberals started normalizing pedophilia

[@cyanide6461]

@@evaun1t165 ??? You people truly invent nonexistent bad things just to bitch about them. Also, you do realise the Republican party is the one fighting to reinstate child marriage, right? What an absolute joke.

[@doctorbarber1]

@@cyanide6461 Yeah it's such a wide ranging conspiracy that the evil libs have even brainwashed and ensnared perfectly innocent Godly men like Matt Gaetz. And yes good point, Republican state legislatures do have a long history even up into recent years of blocking child marriage bans. Just ignore that, the real work is protecting the children from trans people hiding in wait in the bushes amirite.

[@stevegeorge623]

WARNING: MAXIMUM COPIUM OVERLOAD IN THE COMMENTS SECTION BY CROWDER STANS. but fr tho, let me just respond to some criticisms I've seen of Seder/Ethan 1. "Wow Ethan is such a coward for not debating Crowder himself" No, Ethan literally said at the beginning of his video that he didn't understand why Crowder challenged him to a debate since Ethan isn't a political person. The real coward is Crowder because if you're so confident in your ideas and that your arguments are right, you should be able to debate anyone on its merits instead of dunking on people who are either uninformed/aren't political. Basically, fight the best people who can steelman their position instead of just getting an easy win. Crowder himself admitted that Ethan was an "easy layup" so by the sound of that statement, he should be confident enough to debate someone which might be something like being guarded while shooting a 3 pointer. And Crowder's video that he put out today just proves my point. He said that it would be funny if Seder was brought on, and when Seder's face was shown, he immediately went to "you don't think I know that you cut your show early last Monday to show up" which pretty clearly shows that Crowder knew it was coming. In fact, his whole point of showing the earlier clip was to be like "oh yeah I'm so smart, they thought they could trick me but I saw it from a mile away." That just makes him look worse because he was unwilling to have a conversation with Sam even though he knew that he was showing up, which means that he didn't really want to have a talk about the ideas. 2. "Omg Ethan is such a liar for doing this" First of all, you're a Steven Crowder fan so you obviously don't care about the truth. Whether that is in regards to election fraud claims(which have all been debunked), details about George Floyd's murder(legal term now cucks), or any of the covid misinformation which was meant to downplay the virus and defend Trump no matter what. Second, even if Ethan didn't mention that he wanted Seder to debate, Crowder pulled out of the earlier debate because his wife was having "complications." However, once Sam entered the call, Crowder was immediately like "you don't think we noticed that you ended your show early so you could come on here" which kind of gives the game away that you were focused on the Majority Report and not your wife's so-called complications. Even so, if you think Sam is so irrelevant, why are you tracking his show up to the time that you're supposed to be debating Ethan and not focusing on your pregnant wife? 3. "Seder doesn't deserve Crowder's attention" Damn, maximum cope here. Crowder literally said on Joe Rogan's podcast that he isn't able to find leftists who want to debate him, yet he ignores Seder's challenge on numerous occasions. Actually, let's try something fun for everyone in Steven Crowder's audience. If you think that he's an intellectual powerhouse and would make any left leaning person shake in their boots, just ask him to debate any of the following left leaning people: Destiny, Vaush, David Pakman, Kyle Kulinski, Dylan Burns, etc. If he doesn't respond, then he's a coward who only wants dunks on college freshman who aren't media trained and are more worried about passing their next exam rather than how they look in a debate against a Yter who has prepped for a few weeks on his talking points that he'll use. Also, there's literally a video of him ambushing a TYT event where he impersonates Cenk, but he's mad when Seder shows up to battle in the free marketplace of ideas. In short, just follow the golden rule and if you don't like it when people ambush you at what you thought was a private event, then respect someone else's right to be left alone at a private event. 4. "Ethan knew he fucked up so he got someone else to cover for him" Damn, a guy who said that we should listen to the CDC on mask-wearing during a pandemic where the virus is a communicable disease that spreads through the air is much dumber than Crowder, the genius who used their Jewish heritage to say that anyone listening to the state during a health crisis would have ignored the Holocaust. I guess I'm convinced. 5. "Seder is so irrelevant" I guess this could go with the 3rd point but ad hom? Non sequitur? Sorry but that isn't an argument and if Crowder thought that Ethan would have been a cake walk, then he should feel confident enough to face someone who would be a little bit of a challenge unless he just wants to stay in his safe space and only talk to college students who don't really know or care about who he is.

[@highlyelasticpunchingbag9423]

You just typed out a mountain of based stuff. The fact that people are crying about Ethan being a coward is top tier pot calling the kettle black. As if it's totally brave to purposefully pick someone who is unexperienced in politics as a debate opponent, and then going on about how you "fight to hell" only to run away from someone who is much more experienced than your cherry picked debate opponent. Then again, crowder fans have been eating his shit up for years so it's not surprising that they're too blind to see that dumb crap LMAO

[@jaimayy]

Holy shit you deserve this king 👑

[@teshkit456]

Nice fucking blog, dude. Too bad no one is gonna read it.

[@thunderbird3304]

@@teshkit456 OP has over 100 likes. Maybe you didn't read it, but someone else definitely did

[@stevonwhite8933]

@@thunderbird3304 He’s simping for Daddy Crowder

[@HellShredder713]

Crowder's dad threw away his Father's Day present after this "debate"

[@cyanide6461]

All of the Steven Coward fanboys mass disliking this video even though it only serves to increase engagement. It really is quite beautiful

[@Tybis]

🤫

[@EdgieAlias]

Aye bro dont snitch

[@Soulweaver0]

I saw The Act Man complaining it on Twitter that time about H3H3 using Sam Sedar to debate Cold Feet Crowder.

[@lovelylanafansweetie4240]

@@cat_inabasket1510 😂

[@zacharypegg7051]

Stephen's shirt: "FIGHT LIKE HELL" Stephen: "CRY AND RUN"

[@AlexeiIgnavich]

It’s more like “SHIT YOURSELF”

[@Axxilles]

@@AlexeiIgnavich "SPRAY LIQUID SHIT ALL OVER YOUR CHAIR!"

[@SA-mo3hq]

"PANIK"

[@jontraz5993]

@@Axxilles Semi-liquid

[@occamsblunderbuss]

Ethan's Shirt: I'll pick a fight with you then send along my little fwiend.

[@nopeteys2424]

The idea that Crowder won’t debate Sam because he doesn’t have as many subscribers is such BS. Steven has had random people on his show who dont even have KZbin channels or any recognition. And why would it matter if Sam was there even if Crowder didnt know he was going to be? If he’s so confident in his opinions he should be able to have a conversation with Ethan and Sam. Hilarious.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

It's just deflecting, that's all it is. Crowder is a hype machine and a media empire that's gotten WAY out of his depth. And he'll keep deflecting and gaslighting and reframing the facts until the very end.

[@UltaFlame]

@@RedShadowOfSaturn let's hope the end is sooner than later!

[@stephenhartley2853]

he also rage quitted the idea of debating potholer as potholer set reasonable rules for the debate like no pulling up random webpages of bullshit mid debate to muddy the waters. all evidence to be debated would be given to both partys ahead of time so arguments could be prepared beforehand. crowder cried like a baby

[@theweekndxo7438]

A guy in crowders comments actually defended crowder saying “crowder willingly goes to a college campus and his presence is strong” 💀

[@angusmarch1066]

@@theweekndxo7438 🤣🤣🤣

[@user-cb7xh7qp1u]

This moment in history put him in the hospital and his wife started the divorce paperwork! Sam is a legend

[@torreyjohnson250]

The legend of Sam Seder will be told throughout the ages.

[@mizel101]

I'm pretty sure if we offer Trump Junior a bunch of money to cover his daddy's campaign debt he'll agree to have Sam Seder on to debate Crowder

[@normtrooper4392]

To be fair, don Jnr seems like he would do it for a bag of cocaine

[@allyabernathy4098]

omg can you fucking imagine. crowder feels safe and then BAM fuckin sam again out of nowhere 😂 😂

[@tonyreimer6804]

I say we do a GoFundMe. What’s a half ounce of coke going for in Florida these days? That’d probably do it

[@normtrooper4392]

@@allyabernathy4098 I genuinely think Crowder would have a heart attack

[@TrentonF505]

Sam Sedar is everywhere. The moment you think you’re safe, he pops up out of nowhere.

[@MrMq01]

Conservatives: Mainstream media is so unfair, they refuse to allow anyone with opposing viewpoints on their platforms! Conservatives with a platform:

[@Tester-sh1mn]

Conservatives with a platform: “You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question? You want me to answer your question?” “Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Let me explain to you! Whoaoaoaoaoh! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam! Sam!”

[@maxsteel32]

@@Tester-sh1mn that's the same line Candice Owens uses.

[@theonetheonlymemelord5738]

Why do they need to give a platform to someone who doesn't break 2k views per video

[@chillinsquirtle]

@@theonetheonlymemelord5738 well he's gotta do what his daddy tells him

[@theonetheonlymemelord5738]

@@chillinsquirtle Make fun of a family run business more. I bet it'll make you cooler

[@charliekowittmusic]

“I haven’t followed your career like you seem to have followed mine” -Sam Seder

[@BlakesGamez]

Seder literally thrives off following people like this

[@charliekowittmusic]

@Chemical Lemons That was maybe the best moment in this whole exchange 😂

[@brandonrathbone3690]

@@BlakesGamez instead of cold feet crowder, who literally has a segment where he ambushes people? Remember the trans man he showed up to the work of? Yeah....you should check what cold feet crowder has done before saying that.

[@BlakesGamez]

@@brandonrathbone3690 Yeah I know, I'm not a fan of the crowder confronts segment

[@callmedeno]

Except he says this in the context of following crowder around to debate him, which kind of invalidates it.

[@stupidlol293]

Anyone who uses their massive platform as an excuse not to debate someone is immediately barred from ever complaining about big tech censorship ever again

[@Usagi393]

Masterful Tactician Crowder: “Your glasses are stupid Sam!”

[@estebancomulet]

Your glasses are stupid and you have 'velveteen rabbit eyes' - what the hell does that mean lol...other than something probably incredibly crass and possibly anti-semitic.

[@samcox6156]

It’s some anti Semitic shit about Jews having beady eyes

[@ryanpierce3986]

@@estebancomulet quite the reach but keep reaching

[@ryanpierce3986]

@Luck Genuine Lightning Common?! By all accounts it’s super old. Keep reaching.

[@Caelinus]

@@ryanpierce3986 It is super old, for sure, it just also happens to still be actively still in use in antisemitic circles. Like do you seriously expect me to believe that Steven Crowder suddenly decided to reference "velveteen rabbit eyes" out of nowhere? I mean if we are going to talk about something being super old, the book that popularized velveteen rabbits was from *1922.* It is also important to note that his eyes do not actually resemble buttons in any way. That is a super specific insult to randomly throw out. So specifically racist. And it absolutely is not a regularly used insult in *any* context aside from antisemitism, so it is not something people just happen to say.

[@robiu013]

i just find it funny, cause when this beef started crowder supporters tried kinda hard to convince me that steven doesn't just debate unprepared college freshmen and now he basically publically confirmed, that he's not ready to pick a fight he knows he can't win

[@VMonkies]

Lol yeah, there was a ton of Crowder stans on the h3 podcast comments last night saying that Crowder also debates and beats college professors, not just dumbass freshmen. Coincidentally, whenever they were asked which professors Crowder beat in a debate, none of them ever responded.

[@aethionr4478]

@@VMonkies The same kids whose untrained uncles beat up black belts yeah?

[@AdamKirbyMusic]

The palpable fear from this guy who tries to project super masculinity is just lol.

[@chrischickering1959]

He is so pathetic lmaoooo

[@Greyz174]

ive never met more of a woman

[@erpizzaiol5457]

Mac from IASIP

[@chrischickering1959]

@@Greyz174 implying that women are cowards in general is awful. You are acting like chowder head here bud.

[@Greyz174]

@@chrischickering1959 im making fun of him for saying "ive never met more of a woman"

[@CellarDoor-rt8tt]

The funniest part about this is that there is pretty much not a single outcome of this situation that looks worse if you’re Steven Crowder. All Crowder had to do was peddle some nonsense for an hour and called it a debate. He would’ve gotten owned a few times, but in the end he probably could’ve postered about it to his audience and gotten away with it.

[@the_mini_axe2817]

he even had the perfect spin for afterwards, saying that he was not prepared he could avoid fallout for failing with his fans and still benefit

[@mothman4672]

Now THIS is the encapsulation of “Why do I hear boss music?”

[@sloppyy]

"he sure does know a lot about someone he doesn't know anything about"

[@christianc.christian5025]

The fact that he admitted that during his supposed family emergency that he was monitoring ‘The Majority Report’ is one of the most hilarious tip of the cards I’ve seen.

[@redwarrior2342]

guy's absolutely on edge. I love it

[@NotAFakeName1]

All these crowder simps be like "wow Ethan is the true coward here calling in backup Steven wasn't prepared for." Have you ever considered I dont care about Ethan Klein and just like watching crowder squirm?

[@doctorbarber1]

Yeah same. This is a video of a bad person who lies for money getting punked. Only Crowder Stans who soy face at every stupid thing he says and does wouldn't see the value in that.

[@occamsblunderbuss]

@@doctorbarber1 Can you name one of his lies? Genuinely curious since he sources most of his content.

[@gamerinatrance3618]

@@occamsblunderbuss That doesn't mean those sources are reputable.

[@doctorbarber1]

@@occamsblunderbuss Well off the top of my head the Politicon thing is staring you right in the face with this video and its aftermath. Seder has receipts including a recorded phone call and a Tweet from Politicon's Twitter account saying that Crowder had pulled out. Another one that sticks out to me is Crowder badly misrepresenting and distorting a glacier growth study that hbomberguy covered in his "Climate Denial: A Measured Response" video. That thing from Crowder went viral and was getting spammed everywhere for months. All told I don't really get mad at Crowder or his contemporaries for lying or distorting stuff. What they do is a giant grift and I don't expect much more out of them. This also means that I don't think it's unfair or particularly wrong when other people lie to or troll them as Ethan and Sam did.

[@TheSquareheadgamer]

@@occamsblunderbuss all his information on ice sheet mass balance?

[@Ylemonade]

The only time Crowder is worth paying attention to is when he's crying or getting punched. Lol

[@p.chuckmoralesesquire3965]

I reported crowder over a year ago for wearing that socialism is for figs with a pistol on the table, said he was promoting terrorism against gay people. I'm taking credit for getting the ball rolling and banning his dumb ass.

[@keanuxu5435]

Crowder is always crying because he and all Conservatives must cry victimhood to gain any support.

[@coffeepot3123]

As an introvert i was mentally drained today after an online meeting with an employment advisor, but this confrontation between Sam and Steven just recharged my mental batteries.

[@ugheieiemmmfmfmff]

I'm glad for you man

[@coffeepot3123]

@@ugheieiemmmfmfmff Thanks bro * non gay hug *

[@acronen]

Weirdest episode of "To Catch A Predator" I've ever seen. That predator with the holster dipped before the host even said "You're free to leave" and we didn't get to see him tackled by the cops.

[@TheLumberjack1987]

Crowder enters Ethan's call: "Why do I hear boss music?!"

[@Z3onNim]

Lol yes. He was sitting there like when was the last time I saved and I missed the last ammo drop.

[@occamsblunderbuss]

Are you unironically celebrating a man sending another man to fight HIS battle? 😂 This is honestly peak Leftardism.

[@TheLumberjack1987]

@@occamsblunderbuss no, I'm celebrating a big bad alpha man running like a bitch boy from a 140lb 54 year old 😂

[@TossGawd]

Comment of the year 😂

[@spikem5950]

@@occamsblunderbuss I wonder what it's like to overdose on copium.

[@interdimensionalsteve8172]

That "OK" Crowder says after Ethan says "I prepared" is an absolute chef's kiss. Beautiful. That is the moment his heart sunk into his feet.

[@johnnyguillotine1673]

Sam Seder is the Doom Slayer... His music is "The only thing they fear is you"

[@YavinArba]

You cant shoot a hole into the surface of Steven Crowder

[@sayanApprentice095]

*The longer Sam Seder in on earth, the stronger he will become*

[@roachofdoom1234]

Doom Seder

[@alexjaybrady]

The Doll saying no intensifies

[@cambriakilgannon12]

That song is a BOP

[@NekoNyoko]

Fight like Hell? Sike actually Runs like Hell.

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

That needs to be memed relentlessly. How absolutely poetic.

[@existenceispain4333]

More like: Fight? Like hell!! -Twitter

[@RedShadowOfSaturn]

@@existenceispain4333 Toasty! ;-)

[@deepimpactMatt]

I remember a few years ago people were calling on Crowder to debate that potholer youtuber with regards to climate change and he kept ducking that one too. Seems he has a terrible track record with running away from the most basic challenges to his ideas. As someone who used to watch crowder in 2015/16, this is absolutely great to watch unfold.

[@theultimatetempest1918]

That one was going to be strictly moderated by a third party, I recall? Poor chowder wouldn't be able to interrupt or talk over Potholer54 that way 😭

[@deepimpactMatt]

@@theultimatetempest1918 yes, I believe it was supposed to be moderated. Potholer did a video IIRC talking about how crowder wouldn't book a time that worked. Classic steven coward

[@hayk3000]

Glad you recovered buddy

[@deepimpactMatt]

@@hayk3000 I started realizing how stupid crowder and people similar to him were by being exposed to the "liberal" ideas during undergrad. In first year I was a pretty hard-core conservative and by the end I thought it was all a bunch of junk. I had a prof in 4th year unironically show a PragerU video in a lecture, couldn't help but laugh at its stupidity.

[@hayk3000]

@@deepimpactMatt I'm very happy for you. We're extremely privileged to have access to quality education, we get to have progressive ideas. And It's our responsibility to make sure everyone gets access to this information, to public quality education. "With great power comes great responsibility." - Uncle Ben (lol)