Cruiser Positioning Example #1 - Mogami

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Flamu

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@Flamuu
@Flamuu 3 жыл бұрын
If you don't bring Radar or any other sort of utility to the game, your role as a cruiser is simple, deal damage while avoiding taking it. Making that happen however, can be a lot harder than it sounds. Stream: www.twitch.tv/flamuu Insta: instagram.com/flamugram/ Twitter: twitter.com/flamuchz Discord: discord.gg/Flamu
@newinhuman
@newinhuman 3 жыл бұрын
Torps are OP lol nice shot👍
@JestonSun
@JestonSun 3 жыл бұрын
Can You Go For Survivebilty Expert?
@seancritchlow5888
@seancritchlow5888 3 жыл бұрын
Any chance of doing this for minotaur? The ship is strong but it doesn't feel like I have an impact on the match.
@Leptospirosi
@Leptospirosi 3 жыл бұрын
Great game and tutorial. Could you please make one where you explain how spotting works? I didn't know that fighter planes could give you vision over ships and I thought only spotter planes had that mechanics. Thanks
@timaahhh
@timaahhh 3 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like you to point out a bit more is Cruiser also need to support DDs when possible. If a DD provides smoke concealment or if you can use island concealment to block or mitigate damage you need to support DDs as a cruiser. The role of a cruiser to me is a about balance. You have to balance aggressive and passive play. You can't be too aggressive and waste your health or too passive and conserve health at a critical moment.
@DavidFromOuterSpace
@DavidFromOuterSpace 3 жыл бұрын
Flamu: "its important to conserve your health!" Survivability Expert Curry Wurst on the J line: "Senpai says I'm good boi!"
@heno02
@heno02 3 жыл бұрын
ROFL
@azravalencia4577
@azravalencia4577 3 жыл бұрын
someone who use SE on Kurfust is as same as someone who put Pjneapple on Pizza
@Claudius_Nero
@Claudius_Nero 3 жыл бұрын
@@azravalencia4577 Or ketchup on hotdogs.
@MetalMachine131
@MetalMachine131 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god they make that impossible with the new captain rework.
@teh_copbine5081
@teh_copbine5081 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetalMachine131 Yeah imagine having a captain who puts pineapple on his pizza, big yikes...
@serve_xt4298
@serve_xt4298 3 жыл бұрын
flamu: "A good cruiser player gets to deal damage without taking in return" Cv players meanwhile: hahahaha AP bombs go brrrrrrr
@hiro9253
@hiro9253 3 жыл бұрын
yeah AP bombs is ridiculous especially the german CV one, i was in zao and got rekt 23k from 1 drop by A.Parseval T8 german CV. freaking tier 8 CV. that is like 60% of HP gone from 1 drop, i asked him in chat he said 3 citadel. its so frustrating
@razzor_hero
@razzor_hero 3 жыл бұрын
@@yann9915 you are mostly correct but sadly situations arise where a cruiser has to be alone for sometime and that's when a good cv player shines.
@VuHien2011
@VuHien2011 3 жыл бұрын
@@yann9915 6 km is beyond the range of AA of most ships.
@bhutchisonbh
@bhutchisonbh 3 жыл бұрын
@@yann9915 seldom works mid to late game when 50% of ships are gone.....thats when CVs really shine
@bhutchisonbh
@bhutchisonbh 3 жыл бұрын
@@yann9915 not in my experience. In high damage games I tend to do 60-70% of my damage in the last half of the battle; AA being reduced through less ships and HE damage, easier to pick targets, more spread out (less AA bubbles) just my own experience, I find CVs particularly deadly late game
@aceca5147
@aceca5147 3 жыл бұрын
What Flamu said: "And the matchmaking is incredibly tough" What Flamu meant: "And the matchmaking is standard tier 8"
@Neneset
@Neneset 3 жыл бұрын
Whine some more. Standard Tier VIII matchmaking is crapping on Tier VIIs now. Only 40% of battles in Tier VIII ships can have Tier Xs in them. All battles in Tier VII ships can have Tier VIIIs in them.
@albertolopez2888
@albertolopez2888 3 жыл бұрын
Jajajajja I agree man
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Neneset I'd love that tbh, it's more like at most 40% of t8 games don' have tX in my experience. Source: grinding 3 different t8 ships atm
@tijmen131
@tijmen131 3 жыл бұрын
@@Neneset it's not a problem playing against tier 8 in a tier 7 though lol
@Rio_1111
@Rio_1111 2 жыл бұрын
@@Neneset I got my first T VIII recently. A dozen games so far, no T X seen yet.
@doodledibob
@doodledibob 3 жыл бұрын
As our gnomish overlord is fond of saying: "Fair fights are for suckers."
@thomaskositzki9424
@thomaskositzki9424 3 жыл бұрын
Basic military wisdom. ^^
@esbendit
@esbendit 3 жыл бұрын
11:08 This is the exact doctrine of the Imperial Japanese Navy. They would launch torpedoes from the cover of darkness, then open fire when the torpedoes reached their target for maximum shock and awe.
@Windows98R
@Windows98R 2 жыл бұрын
The slight issue comes in that wows doesn’t have nights lol
@ohayou828
@ohayou828 3 жыл бұрын
i need to know what to do when my bbs play like cruisers
@CIoudStriker
@CIoudStriker 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that repeated pinging at around 13:00 would have probably made me mute you if I had been that Östergötland. Once is enough, twice gets annoying, and anything above that is spam.
@CIoudStriker
@CIoudStriker 3 жыл бұрын
@Yonas Smeth The more times you ping in a row, the less likely I am to believe you know what you're doing.
@patrickriley296
@patrickriley296 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. It's really improved my cruiser play. Allowing 5 minutes to pass with no damage and not worrying about it was a huge thing to learn. I usually start to get impatient if I feel I am making no contribution and then get myself in trouble. Thanks Flamu! More please!
@flamedphoenix84
@flamedphoenix84 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information
@jasonshen584
@jasonshen584 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile: t5 furutaka bouncing shikishima shells left and right
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 3 жыл бұрын
but only left and right :P
@SCG003C
@SCG003C 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do a positioning video for flanking cruisers like Henry? Anyway, thx for the information!
@rexstuff4655
@rexstuff4655 3 жыл бұрын
Flamu: "Experiment with just staying alive!" All my games for the next 3 weeks: Cruisers hanging out on the B line...
@lexwaldez
@lexwaldez 3 жыл бұрын
LOL - you know it's true
@SuperRararasputin
@SuperRararasputin 3 жыл бұрын
I love this ship, though it sure does make it hard sometimes . The HE alpha is phenomenal, but boy do you ever get brutally punished if you make a single mistake in your positioning.
@alexcomsulea7190
@alexcomsulea7190 3 жыл бұрын
it s good but it doesn t get a heal witch is annoying
@humorpalanta
@humorpalanta 3 жыл бұрын
Aaaand that is why you play the Atago :P
@iPoTeNcYy
@iPoTeNcYy 3 жыл бұрын
@@humorpalanta p2w
@innerarts4091
@innerarts4091 3 жыл бұрын
@@iPoTeNcYy u get the same assholes as teammates in the atago, can't see the p2w...
@samulivainionpaa9338
@samulivainionpaa9338 3 жыл бұрын
@@innerarts4091 Well, it has a heal which improves Mogami as a ship
@nickzaytz5712
@nickzaytz5712 3 жыл бұрын
ah ah ah staying alive staying alive ah ah ah staying aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiyyyyyiiiiiiiiuuuuuaaaiiiiiiive
@lexwaldez
@lexwaldez 3 жыл бұрын
reported for copyright violation!!!
@AllAhabNoMoby
@AllAhabNoMoby 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. It was made for me. I love the Mogami but get myself killed when uptiered, and you describe me perfectly at 4:20. I feel like I MUST do something when it's just a really bad idea. Feel like I'm not contributing when there is almost nothing I can do. I do it anyway, and usually die, LOL. So thx again for this great how-to.
@不死原飴羽
@不死原飴羽 3 жыл бұрын
Lol..I couldn't believe you call this a rough MM when it is without CVs. I would cry out of joy if I get a no CV match in mogami, I rather to be the only t8 ship in pure t10 MM if the trade is no CV, this silly ship have absolutely no chance from surviving sky cancer that tends to focus you since they knew you have dd's level AA and poor health pool.
@pierreabrie9445
@pierreabrie9445 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, CV needs to have their own little game mode. CO OP RANDOM AND AIRCRAFT. Those wanting to play against a CV go ahead.
@不死原飴羽
@不死原飴羽 3 жыл бұрын
@@pierreabrie9445 Yea, this is what I thought, let surface ship get their individual mode, dd may be strong in such mode but it is much more bearable, at least I would say in 1v1 bb will still stand chance to beat dd by skill, where good CVs player can slaughter a flank without real risk.
@refluxx20
@refluxx20 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Had a Mogami game where a Kaga or Lexington (can't remember) basically focus fired me at the start of the game until I died around 3-4 minutes into the game. Me running fighters/DFAA and being near a friendly BB did basically nothing to help as well. On the other hand my best Mogami games were with no CVs/noob enemy CVs that didn't know how useless Mogami is against planes.
@不死原飴羽
@不死原飴羽 3 жыл бұрын
@@refluxx20 Yeah, totally agree with you, Mogami is some of my favorite ship but it do feel terrible when enemy CV is an average player with some sort of brain. Unlike Atago, mogami doesn't have repair party or any armor on upper deck, a successful strike from enemy CVs in early game kinda like a death sentence for the player, or extremely passive game.
@lost4356
@lost4356 3 жыл бұрын
did you see what his teammate do from having an advantage to almost lose.
@blindmikeguard
@blindmikeguard 3 жыл бұрын
One of your best guides in a while. Cheers man.
@SadMarinersFan
@SadMarinersFan 3 жыл бұрын
"Experiment in just trying to survive" Humps A1 corner and never fires guns: "Flamu said this is how you play cruisers"
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 3 жыл бұрын
I am 100% sure some potatos are going to do this and think they are playing well because flamu told them to conserve hp over everything else :P
@DrDuckMD
@DrDuckMD 3 жыл бұрын
Damn I’ve had a lot of games recently where I say “ How the hell did we lose that...” I look at the map and everything looks fine, then before you know it your east flank has collapsed.
@diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754
@diegoviniciomejiaquesada4754 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Mogami. When I am hunting DDs I use the 155mm... When I am hunting CAs & CLs I use the 203mm. If I am fighting bigger ships I use the hit & run tactics: Firing before hiding behind an island so the can't detect me. And if someone gets me, I launch torps at them and run moving as much as I can. Some people say her torps angles are awful, but for "hit & Run" are just perfect.
@aurelienlechoux4902
@aurelienlechoux4902 3 жыл бұрын
More positioning guides please!! They're great and so are you, keep up the great work!
@mizzndizz8163
@mizzndizz8163 3 жыл бұрын
Relying on your team for spotting? Seems like a big flaw in this plan :P What do you do when you have a DD that just sits in smoke all game not spotting shit? Seems like the story of my life when I play a cruiser, no spots.
@justkev6277
@justkev6277 3 жыл бұрын
It's so important to not get impatient if you don't feel like your making a difference. I've had games, mostly in dds, where I feel absolutely useless for the first 15 mins for my time to come only in the last 5. WoWS is a slow game, patience is key. Don't get frustrated and suicide your ship.
@nikolaieh0624
@nikolaieh0624 3 жыл бұрын
Health is like planes. You need to preserve it. Oh wait never mind
@_koifishpond
@_koifishpond 3 жыл бұрын
What if there's a CV in the game?
@NastyCupid
@NastyCupid 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 135K damage game with the Mogami without taking 1 point of damage. I uploaded the video if someone is interested in what I did during a game like that :)
@CSSBTGaming
@CSSBTGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically the playerbase of WOWS nowadays is toxic to a point that people will usually throw a fit and then proceed to harass and report you if you did not or do not suicide on demand. On the other hand, aggressive plays bordering on the reckless can also catch a lot of flak from a different part of the playerbase... It's too easy to become a punching bag to the enemies and a scapegoat to one's own team when everyone prefer to play the blame game rather than the actual game itself.
@Dukenukem
@Dukenukem 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing you can do to them, so why bother improving. you can always get more credits from the shop. I have my carma firmly sitting at 0 because somebody will always think "you play bad" and nobody ever commend you, only if you hard carry a game (then i get 1-2 and los them right away in next game).
@user-dy2xu3uv8k
@user-dy2xu3uv8k 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dukenukem you both are way off.....if you play a team game you need to support the team. If you are in a cruiser with radar/hydro then you need to push up and use it to spot/kill enemy Destroyers. The teams that win do that....it's simply. If you only radar/hydro to protect yourself than you are a scumbag entitled Karen and should stop playing games where teamwork is essential. If you stay a 0 it is because you are bad and hide behind islands like a pussy while your team gets outnumbered
@asaman99
@asaman99 3 жыл бұрын
In most games, if you have no damage output in first 5 mins enemy would have our DDs sunk and take 2 caps....
@edwinchs
@edwinchs 3 жыл бұрын
BUT, the REAL problem is when you face a T10 CV who want you DEAD in 2 mins
@ThaCrustyOne
@ThaCrustyOne 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Flamu!! Cheers!! 🔥🔥💯💯🤘🤘🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸
@AR-hi1hy
@AR-hi1hy 3 жыл бұрын
This vid alone turned my shitty scores into average ones. Amazingly well explained, thank you!
@nakazul1
@nakazul1 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get hydra duration eq/slot?
@jordananderson2728
@jordananderson2728 3 жыл бұрын
This is something I've been trying to bring into my games, and it's been drastically increasing my damage in games and my contributions. Thank you for making it into a simple guide!
@twilinter5229
@twilinter5229 3 жыл бұрын
Flamu: here's my advices CV: are you sure about that? Really while the advices are legit, when facing a match with CVs. You can't help but feel much powerless.
@Duwurf
@Duwurf 3 жыл бұрын
And It's extra fun in ships like Shinonome!
@Dukenukem
@Dukenukem 3 жыл бұрын
Another anti CV whiner, just sail in group of three ships and the CV will fell more powerless than you ever thought (unless FDR, that ship is broken OP)
@arci9561
@arci9561 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dukenukem just go play wowp 😋
@jaimemetcher388
@jaimemetcher388 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dukenukem Which is actually the worst effect of CVs on gameplay. Everyone stays in a tight group at spawn because there's nowhere on the map you can be unspottted and you need to pool AA. Anybody forward of the spawn camp gets spotted, focussed, and dies. If they do make it to hard cover, they quickly discover that island hugging and torp dodging are mutually exclusive. Getting trashed by a CV drop is frustrating, but the real problem is the dismantling of vision and cover tactics.
@twilinter5229
@twilinter5229 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dukenukem -> "Another anti CV whiner" -> "unless FDR, that ship is broken OP" What are you then? I'd love to see a match where the team cv is a potato and the enemy cv is a unicum that got kraken unleashed and high caliber but the potato cv team still win. Sure that would be very, very interesting, please entertain us.
@lostvayne3977
@lostvayne3977 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spectacular thx so much
@zongrenli3951
@zongrenli3951 3 жыл бұрын
Flamu: A good cruiser player always trades uneavenly Also Flamu: Art of the Deal
@azravalencia4577
@azravalencia4577 3 жыл бұрын
This has been the best trade deal of the history of trade deals. Maybe ever
@hond654
@hond654 3 жыл бұрын
All good advice. Unfortunately in T10 games if i stay behind island or even if i ping a cruiser to get back i regularly got a negative feedback because of "cowardice". You can hardly satisfy people.
@cemborembo
@cemborembo 3 жыл бұрын
And Flolo called those people idiots right here. Did that satisfy you? You shouldnt care what others say, if you think it's right, at least not in a game.
@fockewulf9518
@fockewulf9518 3 жыл бұрын
The concealment build allows you to play a more central position and that is what is optimal i guess.
@IconProduction01
@IconProduction01 3 жыл бұрын
He keeps saying I'm 5 mins into the game with no damage yet and that's fine.. I'm 10 mins into the game now with only 15k damage and that's just fiiiiiine guys. Yea bro, the only reason you're fine with this in hindsight is because you ended up doing over 200k damage by the end of this match lmao... If you hadn't been able to pull off so much damage during the latter half of this match, you would have never posted this battle to KZbin and you would've been singing a totally different tune about being halfway through a battle with little to no damage dealt yet being fine lol. There's a reason most players feel they need to make something happen and quickly if they're halfway through a battle with little damage dealt, and that's simply because our own experiences alone from playing this game over and over tells us that if you haven't done much by the first half of a battle then chances are you aren't going to pull off magic in the second half. There are exceptions to any rule of course like your performance here, but you can't act like any player who hasn't done sh*t during the first half of a match will suddenly be able to pull off a 200k performance like you can during the second half of a match alone. While I agree with your advice to try and be careful and survive as long as possible when playing in a cruiser, you make it sound here like anyone can have a stellar 200k damage round even if the first half of their match was sh*t simply by surviving through an entire battle and resisted the temptation to "make something happen" by yoloing into someone. Judging by the ever diminishing skill levels of most of the players that we get on our teams in random these days, I'm sure there's an argument that could be made for the opposite actually as far as sh*tty players doing more damage and helping their team more in the end by yoloing stupidly into someone rather than that same player surviving the entire battle but with little damage dealt and full HP because they refused to leave the spawn and proceeded to kite away from everything at even the slightest signs of aggression.
@thegreenfather1978
@thegreenfather1978 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer runing double rudder shift upgrade, but seeing how much faster she accelerates with your build, it seems a good option too. I use PM instead of reload on her captain, too. Her AP is too situational in my opinion (but very strong when used properly). Very nice gameplay. I also like to kite in open sea when facing ships that would have a hard time hiting me (bad aim, "small" guns, long travel time etc). Raking up both high damage and high potential is pretty fun. I remember getting around 2M potential once (and 120k dmg, I think ?).
@repaleonhalo9754
@repaleonhalo9754 3 жыл бұрын
Im having people like this Gotland every day.. Same for the afk Roon its every single game with 1 or 2 afks
@marcofava
@marcofava 3 жыл бұрын
I don't usually play radar ships, and the 155 magami is one of my favourite ships. I've been getting great games in her both up and down tiered
@ronniecato248
@ronniecato248 3 жыл бұрын
So cleveland next?
@claytonharrison74
@claytonharrison74 3 жыл бұрын
Every video is like a master class.
@lukestables708
@lukestables708 3 жыл бұрын
Very useful thanks! Of course all the things you talk about are much harder to pull off when there's a CV in play, especailly when it's two tiers above your CC.
@Wilmi2
@Wilmi2 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid, I hope the potatos of my Team watch this.
@khapho
@khapho 3 жыл бұрын
Question Flamu How often does your game crashing, just wandering To me, the game is crashing ALOT to me around 4-5 times in single battle I barely got inn and then got crashed again, why is that happen
@antraxxslingshots
@antraxxslingshots 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine that Beauty having like 18.2km range and 12km Torps...she wouldn´t be OP at all and i think i would not play anything else.
@BokeFlyingSimulations
@BokeFlyingSimulations 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this game is a perfect example on how terrible are average players nowadays at even tier X. 0 knowledge of positioning, 0 knowledge of priorities... The montana on the right, staying all the game behind a mountain dealing 0 damage, just to rush the Petro in the last minute and die. The stalingrad staying at spawn and prceeding to die. V sad.
@petapan5743
@petapan5743 3 жыл бұрын
"How to..." form one of the bests ingame! Yey!
@6th_Army
@6th_Army 3 жыл бұрын
I hate the new KZbin app. Complete shit. They even removed the notification section for some reason. They tried to "move" it. but that just brings you back to the home page.
@Amokhunter
@Amokhunter 2 жыл бұрын
Uhm... actually, the distinction between light and heavy cruiser was dependant on the guns, not the armour. So the Mogamis' 155mm main battery makes her a CL for sure (155mm being the cut-off point historically), while her 203's would make her a heavy cruiser.
@yemannwaiphyo8817
@yemannwaiphyo8817 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. Flamu. You are truly a master of the Art of IJN cruiser. 15km range in a tier 9 match is. . . Near unplayable for me. The Skill Ceiling is Very High. And . . . Average CV spot you, Average BB get easy Citadal on you. Good IJN cruiser swears at Bad RNG.
@Chironex_Fleckeri
@Chironex_Fleckeri 3 жыл бұрын
Does WG balance t4-t9 with uptiering in mind? Some T7-t8 feel impossible to do well with when uptiered. Well, I'm not a Super Unicum so maybe it's just hard for me to make bad ships work.. Usually it's cruisers with ranges
@bopr6535
@bopr6535 3 жыл бұрын
Very instructive, content I have been looking for in this format for some time...well done.
@hyperdude144
@hyperdude144 Жыл бұрын
Required viewing for any Japanese cruiser captain. The 10km torpedoes provide that oomph you need to stand up against battleships, if needed. Absolutely love this line.
@Usmvalor3
@Usmvalor3 3 жыл бұрын
I started playing British BB line, and I can't shake off the habbit of shooting DD's with my HE. I'm at QE and I'm starting to notice the shift in DD players inteligence sometimes. They finaly start to bank on their mobility and concealment. Me myself started juggling ammo types, easy HE spamming is no longer an out of jail free card. But back to the DD blaping, should I leave it to cruisers and prioritize meatier targets? My mind works like this: "If I'm not carefull, DD can easily end me, but If I have he loaded and destroyer in close proximity I can try and do the same to him "
@DarkStarPast
@DarkStarPast 3 жыл бұрын
I love my mogami But now fighters do NOT spot. And you showed because of it's short range any CV spot means death. The history was after a major nerf, then a little buff and then a small nerf plus power creep Mogami is now a tier 6-7 ship playing again T10 ships. You just proved that only in a very unqiue battles and the very best players can it be used. thanks
@orbitalpotato9940
@orbitalpotato9940 3 жыл бұрын
Every BB gangsta until I pump out 5k dmg per volley in my 155mm IFHE mogami.
@BAnthonyProductions
@BAnthonyProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you keep these tutorials coming....i know WG is a shit show at the moment but it's my only stress relief at the moment
@k4r4b1n3r
@k4r4b1n3r 3 жыл бұрын
ok, i hate the Mogami... and just watched this Video to get a little advise of how to play that thing... all battles before i have done maby 20 to 40k dmg and got killed in about five min... after this video if done maby the best match i have ever played in WoWS with 180k Dmg in a T10 Battle.... all that was just about this video
@regraz1911
@regraz1911 2 жыл бұрын
@flamuu this is one of the best explanations of playing a ship that Ive viewed to date and that includes all the changes since this vid was made. Please return-provide such player analysis for all the newer ships avail in WoWS now. TY M8 :D
@williamhess3873
@williamhess3873 3 жыл бұрын
Watched this and I kept suiciding in, but I realized I didn't need to so came back again. Close to mogami, and playing through Charles, Tallinn, and other T7-T8 CA/CL so this helps a lot
@user-dy2xu3uv8k
@user-dy2xu3uv8k 3 жыл бұрын
Cruisers need to support their destroyers and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, keep the ship in a position to cross fire support your destroyers. To many times have I beat an enemy team because their cruisers just hide behind islands and let their destroyers get killed....then our team can outnumber whatever side has the cruisers that are hiding behind islands and unable to help.
@sonofcolossus7766
@sonofcolossus7766 3 жыл бұрын
@Flamu what you said about pushing and comments about balls. im one of these guys pushing and dying and insulting ppl to not have balls, Yes. in a sense how ppl are playing this game its really stupid but on the other hand you have to consider that some ppl, including me, want to have more action and fun and not this boring WG given boring gamestyle, Its a difference to be effective or having fun these says, yes, but it dont have to. I agree that your gamestyle is 100%effective and for most ppl playing this game its fun to be effective but there are also ppl considering action as fun and if more ppl would play more in close range then maybe the whole gamestyle would change completely, no matter what ships or HE power. Its like reality, ppl and only ppl have to power to change things. You know what youre doing but ppl looking your vids and learning from them are not experienced and try to play defensive all the time because most dont have enough skills (and balls). But you cant denie that 12 players like you could easily push agressive and be successfull. So saying that ppl that are pushing are stupid or making a stupid gameplay is also stupid in a sense.
@ilkhomtashmatov2917
@ilkhomtashmatov2917 3 жыл бұрын
I would appreciate, if you could make a commentary “how to play and position in harugumo”. It has a massive fire power, but I’m struggling with this ship. Thank you
@elGringo69
@elGringo69 3 жыл бұрын
In general, BB's tend to play like light cruisers, cruisers play like DD's and DD's play like crackheads. PS Health is just a resource like anything else. The only health that actually matters is the last 1 point
@johns.7609
@johns.7609 3 жыл бұрын
this should be mandatory viewing for anyone starting cruiser play.
@RandomlySelectedUserName
@RandomlySelectedUserName 3 жыл бұрын
this video was really help full bcz i can't play with cruisers but would like to have german cruiser cz hindenbug is really good but before you get it you must play 4-5 hard tires... when ships doesnot have much armor and they get just oneshoted all time so these things wich u said here gonna be rly helpfull
@TrangleC
@TrangleC 3 жыл бұрын
Good guide, but how viable is it still? The current state of the game makes it next to impossible to learn this play style at low tiers. I tried doing this, but the CV plague at tier 4 makes it impossible to sit behind an island and deal damage in peace. Slowing down just means begging for torpedoes and you can forget about ever being unspotted for longer than a few seconds.
@skcdav410
@skcdav410 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say the change from Mogami to Ibuki is awful unless you're used to playing the 203mm Mogami
@lEFCl
@lEFCl 3 жыл бұрын
If the best play for a cruiser is play as passive as possible... How is that even fun? Plus not all maps have easy crossfires from behind islands. I would rather play a gunboat DD instead.
@jonb8944
@jonb8944 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a Mogami or other flame thrower light cruiser in a map with few islands. I just lost a few on Strait on a Furutaka having little places to go.
@markwilloughby6142
@markwilloughby6142 3 жыл бұрын
While these videos are absolutely necessary for the majority of the player base, they will watch it. Start a game and completely forget everything you have done, charge in, die and blame everything else..
@ainumahtar
@ainumahtar 3 жыл бұрын
I have no illusions about being better than Flamu, I am not, but with so many games being absolute stomps one way or the other nowadays I do question the wisdom of not being bothered by doing nothing for the first or even first two quarters of the game. Being dead is not helpful, but not doing anything is also not helpful.
@marklund117
@marklund117 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool, now how do I position against the t10 CV who has chosen to focus me?
@Sindor33
@Sindor33 3 жыл бұрын
That's simple: near 2 good AA ships
@Dukenukem
@Dukenukem 3 жыл бұрын
@@Sindor33 or Halland, thats 2 AA cruisers in one Destroyer package
@tonepilot
@tonepilot Жыл бұрын
It’s easy to use island cover when there’s no CVs. When I hug iskands, I get torped by CVs non-stop.
@eric.a3
@eric.a3 3 жыл бұрын
You need to make a DM replay if you wanna talk about positioning in CA, basics of positioning help a poor dm player become a good dm player
@odinsrensen7460
@odinsrensen7460 2 жыл бұрын
This sounds like really solid advice, I'll definitely try to play more safely. But what do you do in open water?
@stevenhartman2605
@stevenhartman2605 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that didn't come up in this battle was the need to support DDs. If the Ostergotland had clashed with an enemy DD in C cap at the start, it might have been necessary to take a few risks to try and tip the balance of that duel with gunfire support.
@arifilmiawan9111
@arifilmiawan9111 3 жыл бұрын
Always good.. thanks Flamu.. I have left my Mogami too long .. let's try play it better..
@psgokhan
@psgokhan 3 жыл бұрын
I can't play WoWS because I'm too unskilled so I watch Flamu to play vicariously.
@lerbronk
@lerbronk 2 жыл бұрын
"its important to conserve your health!" all i can say is "main battery reload time -19.8%"
@cptkilimanjaro3738
@cptkilimanjaro3738 3 жыл бұрын
Cruisers that do this are very good, and I hate them, because they always farm me while I’m tanking for my useless teams. I wish they were with me, not against me.
@DarthMcLeod
@DarthMcLeod 3 жыл бұрын
Keep these coming. What I mist need to learn is how to think and what to think about.
@frenchouiaboo816
@frenchouiaboo816 3 жыл бұрын
i'm gonna need that guide but for french cruisers now ))))
@danielgens9872
@danielgens9872 3 жыл бұрын
Flamu as a self proclaimed potato thank you for this guide, my cruisers thank you.
@nunomangerona8245
@nunomangerona8245 3 жыл бұрын
TRue, but at the end of the game you have 2 or 3 people putting a -1 because you not help all the time! ;)
@ErvinSalma
@ErvinSalma 3 жыл бұрын
Favourite cruiser in game :)
@jurijsoklic5026
@jurijsoklic5026 3 жыл бұрын
I presume this is how you play cruiser where there is no CV. With CV it's different.
@mrbushi1062
@mrbushi1062 Жыл бұрын
Crazy I didn't think Fighter pilot gave spotting bonus
@scheimong
@scheimong 3 жыл бұрын
People don't understand the difference between conserving HP and being useless.
@adamkorzon2972
@adamkorzon2972 3 жыл бұрын
Just bought back my Mogami back in the day slots were rare to get so had to drop a slot for Yamato.
@rupertbearz3790
@rupertbearz3790 3 жыл бұрын
I have a jpn cruiser and this video has me starting to play it more, very good tips!!!
@andreaslockher5901
@andreaslockher5901 3 жыл бұрын
5 Minutes without an shot, hmmmmh
@auswhofan
@auswhofan 2 жыл бұрын
great vid, thanks for sharing your skills and experience
@JestonSun
@JestonSun 3 жыл бұрын
Mogami Is Not a Crusier it's a Super Destroyer
@adayhr
@adayhr 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video friend! Keep doing this good work😀👍
@sameerkharade7750
@sameerkharade7750 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a higher likelihood of this succeeding when there are no CVs in a match?
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