Crusader Warfare: Frankish vs. Saracen Fighting Styles

[@bretoncambro-norman2190]

Dr. Stephen Donnachie analysis was fantastic, if possible this type of podcast again would be excellent.

[@nmjjmn663]

Very interesting, it's amazing how the Crusaders managed to do so well despite being outnumbered.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Thank you my friend!

[@Assassins6688]

Lol xD

[@apvtethic8818]

Nmjjmn they did so well that they only won one and lost all the other 7 lol

[@nmjjmn663]

ItalicCross They won more than the First Crusade actually. They also won the Third Crusade, the Venetian Crusade, the Baron's Crusade, and I believe the Sixth Crusade. You could also count the Reconquest of Spain, though it's debatable whether or not that was a Crusade.

[@squakrock]

Nmjjmn how wasn’t the reconquista a crusade? It drew the attention of crusaders from all across Europe and also brought knightly orders .

[@lukemcinerny8220]

The early comment about padding under chain mail not being primarily for protection, it was used for protection so a blow wouldn't break your arm as the mail would protect from the blade but there is still a lot of force behind a blow. And also mail would without any gambeson would rub you raw lol. Great podcast, love the channel

[@lukemcinerny8220]

and just to add ( a year later lol) some gambesons granted very think ones, have been proven to stop arrows from heavy war bows, in short gambeson was a very effective armor, still is in the case of certain types of stab vests.

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Luke McInerny and why do u think that the Spanish Conquistadors, especially the poorer ones, eventually switched to the cotton armor of the Aztecs and other natives? It was just as effective as European Gambeson armor, especially protection against sword slashes.

[@user-uy1rg8td1v]

@@emperorconstantine1.361 Padded armor is underappreciated but I can't help but sweat at the thought of wearing it in the desert or jungle.

[@Fluffy52600]

Padded armor has been used throughout all of human history, even in relatively modern wars. Mid-late 1800s, British troops in India would wrap turbans/cloth around their cork-material pith helmets in order to defend from Indian and middle eastern sword users.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

@@lukemcinerny8220 What counts as heavy though? Plus it depends on a host of other factors like what type of arrowhead etc. But in theory if you made anything thick enough, it would stop an arrow. But a gambeson that thick would probably kill you from the desert heat.

[@brianfuller7691]

It's really interesting how much the Franks influenced Medieval history and European history. They did introduce the knightly class and the feudal system.

[@Trust_The_Plan]

Hattin is a very good example of the different mind sets. Franks were brave and strong in direct confrontations. While Arabs were more hit and run and using tricks. The franks went direct into Saladin's plan of cutting them off of water. And the use of fire to make the franks even suffer more. Saladin set every bush on fire to let the wind bring the smoke towards the franks. So he used tactical advantages. While if the franks hade enough water who knows how all would have ended.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Hattin was a lucky break for Saladin, though. Typically the Franks would not fall for that sort of ploy, it's just that Guy of Lusignan was incompetent. Saladin suffered serious defeats from great commanders like Richard the Lionheart and Baldwin IV of Jerusalem because of cautious, effective leadership. Usama ibn Munqidh described the Franks as "above all, the most cautious men in warfare".

[@Trust_The_Plan]

Real Crusades History Well one can argue about how effective the franks where in the holy land. But the one thing nobody can argue about is who won at hattin. The franks were stupid enough to march towards saladin. And even after Hattin nobody was able to reconquer Jerusalem. If Hattin was a one time lucky thing the franks would have come back and corrected the mistake. But this never happened.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

The Franks were incredibly effective. With tiny numbers they maintained a presence in Syria and Palestine, frequently defeating and out-fighting the Muslims who always enjoyed massive superiority in numbers. Hattin did turn out to be a lucky win for Saladin, but it was not a foregone conclusion. Saladin worried about the outcome of the battle all day because the Franks fought so hard, delivering charge after charge. Only the overwhelming superiority of the Muslim numbers delivered them a victory at Hattin. And of course the Third Crusade reversed many of Saladin's gains at Hattin. Richard's victories over Saladin ensured that the Crusader states survived another hundred years, and shattered Saladin's dream of destroying the Crusader states.

[@Trust_The_Plan]

Real Crusades History Im sorry but The crusades achieved absolutely nothing. The entire middle east is muslim. The only country not muslim is israel today. So if you look at it who hade a greater impact it was Saladin. Outremer was utterly destroyed. Christianity was degraded and Islam was established. Jerusalem was till 1967 under Islamic rule. Not under frankish rule.

[@Trust_The_Plan]

Paolo Angelo Anino who sayed this? I never Sayed the crusaders where about to convert all. Why you saying that?

[@emperorconstantine1.361]

Could you please do a series on the Byzantine Empire

[@dancarson1479]

Great podcast, love this series

[@vladdracula8928]

It always fascinated me that the Seljuk Turks could be so different in warfare than the Crusaders. Now I have two questions did the Seljuk Turks use straight swords or only scimitars? Could you do a video about how the mongols affected the Muslim world and the crusader states?

[@vladdracula8928]

+Crocuta IV okay thank you

[@vladdracula8928]

+Duke Sedan thank you

[@unemployedautist5054]

The Seljuks usually dual wielded katanas because they are the best swords.

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

lol

[@JerryJr65]

Crocuta IV, Hey, great name. Did you get a grant to study spotted hyenas in the wild?

[@davidkueny2444]

What did crusader infantry look like? What sort of armor would an Itallian crossbowman wear? What other forms of infantry were there, and how were they equipped? What kind of infantry did the Muslims have?

[@MrMonkeybat]

The illustration is amusing no spear head appears to be on his lance so the way his lance is hitting his opponents shield boss makes it look like he is jousting with a mop. His hand also looks rather twisted holding the lance in weird way.

[@MC-xd8lp]

I THINK THE SPEAR PIERCE THE SHIELD THATS WHY U CANT SEE ANY SPEARHEADS

[@MC-xd8lp]

AND PEOPLE ARE NOT THAT GOOD AT ART BACK IN THE DAY

[@neutralfellow9736]

Calm down and stop shouting.

[@MC-xd8lp]

+Neutral Fellow WHO SAYS IM SHOUTING I WAS JUST USING ALL CAPS

[@RealCrusadesHistory]

Lol! Ever seen the Book of Kells?

[@Lobster_Lars]

Padding is an essential part of mail armor. Of course it's worn for protection, chainmail doesn't work if you don't have a hefty layer of padded armor underneath.

[@SolidRollin]

I enjoyed this episode. Thank you.

[@khurmiful]

Great show, you guys missed out on the Latin infantry and what sort of weapons armour and tactics were deployed for them?

[@jamesbailey5008]

Guy's I listen to a lot of this, thank you

[@GoldenPatrice]

Nice video.

[@bigmofo1122]

At least, back then, they didn't blow themselves up. Though I am sure they would if they had the technologies...

[@assylbekkossov6955]

Don't you not think that was really rude ?

[@michaeljensen6205]

They did have people called chages who would be martyred in greater good of Islam. Sometimes set themselves on fire and jump in Christian ranks on orders (cuz they wore lots of cloth on surface). They were once commanded to all die by making living bridge with their bodies so that armored horses can cross the ditch. So in a way you are correct. That is exactly what they would do if they had the technology.

[@khurmiful]

Martyrdom and Jihadi zeal is a very good tool to have when fighting. Even Chingiz Khan admired the Muslim spirit of fighting. It is no coincidence that Turks and Tartars Mongols all were attracted to Islam more than Christianity or Buddhism. Crusaders were mere copycats of Islam’s secret weapon. The Jihad. The spirit to fight and kill for your God and be rewarded in heaven if you die while doing it.

[@christianstaub9808]

Not wrong

[@bruhmcchaddeus413]

lmaoo ok relaxx

[@bipolatelly9806]

So "Doctor", were ANY of the Normans called Norman? Did they have quiffs too? Did they look like teddy boys but with armour? And brothel creepers?

[@kevcontrol6563]

great history show

[@feagal612]

Just found this channel. Not shit so far, nice job :)

[@teekey1754]

47:42 - 60 yards to a 100 meters :)

[@Juubelimies]

Google or type into some search engine "Igor Dzis Crusades". He has amazing paintings depicting arms and armour of the crusades. Realistic.

[@timfoinc.6879]

Sara- Chen/ S are not arachen. Aracheda/ Raceda means (subject is omit) presumed of its details ahead in Korean verbial phrase. Korean vs. Koran( was Goryeo/ all females are even).....their hidden breeding fields. S= sulfur= Jewish= Russian= Chuba= show me You Dance!!

[@randelldarky3920]

Persia fired the first shot.

[@lionelhutz5137]

Fear the charge of the heavy Norman cavalry

[@darkstar7074]

Up until now I thought it was pronounced Saraken.

[@darkstar7074]

Surprisingly not, I’m Canadian.

[@Via-Media2024]

If the enemy comes at you with cavalry archers, counter with pikemen.....

[@misaelfraga8196]

Pikemen, and armored standing archers.

[@annhendrickson5223]

I try to uphold the good like a Christian knight. 🙋 🌸 💜

[@BigBadassR]

The Normans were superior for the same reason the Batavians were badasses in ancient times. You get some Germanic warriors and you teach them "Roman" techniques. The Normans were some of the last of the un-mixed Germanic warriors, basically Vikings who learned the techniques of the knights. The Germanics of most of the rest of Europe were bred in with the Romans and their slaves to varying degrees. Hence, they had better technology but were not quite so fierce. I know its Un-PC to suggest genetics has anything to do with anything, but science suggests otherwise.

[@charliecatesby3346]

Many of the troops that fought at Hastings and elsewhere as Norman's were French... William the Conqueror and his cohort were in essence French with a lot of Viking ancestry.....Just as the Saxons became English and thus not purely Saxon the Vikings Became Norman French and thus not purely Viking... The genetics of all North Western European nations is very similar so there isn't really any difference in intelligence or temperament......I agree genetics plays a huge role in Intelligence and physiology but the great differences are not seen between say the English and Norman's.... Or any other Europeans.... Remember the Saxons were probably just as German as the Norman's.

[@IYeleven]

Big R Finally someone else mentions genetics! For the most part, it all boils down to genetics.

[@anarchistalhazen7084]

@@IYeleven If than is true. Then, Is that how the Huns(turks) fucked up every Germanic tribe? The Franks, Goths, Vandals, Lombards, along with the Romans.

[@arroganceinvictus]

Moayad The sheer number of horses they had was why the Huns were successful.

[@AnthonyEvelyn]

bullshit