Crusades From the Byzantine Perspective - Medieval History DOCUMENTARY

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@serenus1974
@serenus1974 2 жыл бұрын
In Greece we always learn the crusades from the Byzantine point of view so it's really interesting to see someone presenting it also in such a well made video
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 жыл бұрын
Well... an oversimplification would be "first was ok, 4th was a b****" 😅
@VicmundLim
@VicmundLim 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how do Greeks view the European, Turks, Persian and Arabs
@OsmanOsmanHan
@OsmanOsmanHan 2 жыл бұрын
Greek history education is heavily distorted and propaganda based. The only thing they teach correctly are the Dates.
@misterpikes7600
@misterpikes7600 2 жыл бұрын
@@VicmundLim Persians are respected old foes , Turks are the tribes that took advantage of the weakened empire and Arabs well... we dont really care . Thats oversimplified and dont reflect the opinion on the people but on the events.
@ragael1024
@ragael1024 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterpikes7600 well yeah it is an oversimplified version. Cannot blame the turks for taking advantage lol. Bulgarians, serbs, venetians, genoans and half a dozen more tried the same. The turks just got lucky by being on the other side of the Bosphorus while the greeks had no more fleet to speak of 😅
@byzantinetales
@byzantinetales 2 жыл бұрын
History IS always told from someone's point of view. I am so glad Byzantium is getting the attention it deserves lately!
@zamirroa
@zamirroa 2 жыл бұрын
Byzantine empire ? Anhh you mean Basileia Rhomaion " Roman Empire"
@user-sc5iv2rp2t
@user-sc5iv2rp2t 2 жыл бұрын
@@zamirroa Have you ever read a single source from the prototype? Both Anna Komnena and Choniates use the term Byzantion for the state extensively. If someone is bored to search it in the Greek prototype I will be glad to quote below the exact passages for you.
@ilias8972
@ilias8972 2 жыл бұрын
@@zamirroa Βασιλεία Ρωμαίων (Basileia Rhomaion), Ρωμαίων Αρχή (Rhomaion Arché) or Κράτος Ρωμαίων (Kratos Rhomaion) were all names of Byzantine state but in order for better understanding we call it Byzantine Empire because that's how it is known worldwide. Someone who is unfamiliar with its history might misunderstand it.
@user-sc5iv2rp2t
@user-sc5iv2rp2t 2 жыл бұрын
Alexiad 2.6.6, second book. "Βυζαντιω" describes the state. That is for starter. Alexiad has 15 books.
@ilias8972
@ilias8972 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-sc5iv2rp2t You misunderstand the term Byzantion. It is used for the city, not for the state. For example Constantine Porhyrogennitos uses it in "Περί Θεμάτων" when he describes the city. Literally, all the works of Byzantines describe the state as "Ρωμαίων Αρχή". You mentioned for example Anne Comnene. In her " Alexiad", book A,1, in literally the first verse she writes: "Ὁ βασιλεὺς Αλέξιος καὶ ἐμὸς πατὴρ καὶ πρὸ τοῦ τῶν σκήπτρων ἐπειλῆφθαι τῆς βασιλείας μέγα ὄφελος τῇ βασιλείᾳ Ρωμαίων γεγένηται... " We see that she writes: "βασιλείᾳ Ρωμαίων". Such names for the Byzantine Empire are full in all the works of Byzantines, from Prokopius to Anne Komnene.
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 2 жыл бұрын
There is an old Greek folk song from Thessaly, which was a lament for the Fall of Constantinople in 1453, created a few years afterwards, and it says at a certain point, "μέσα με δέρνει ο θάνατος, ν' οξω με δέρνει ο Τούρκος, κι από την δεξιά μου την πλευρά Φράγκος με πολεμάει"... i.e, "from inside i was hit by death (implying the decadent situation of the state), from outside i was hit by the Turks, and from my right flank, the Franks fight against me". This folk song it's amazing because it gives the idea of how the simple people were still fiercely against the Latins, almost 3 centuries after the Crusades, and it summons perfectly in few words the situtation and the history of the last 4 centuries of the Eastern Roman Empire, and the war on two fronts, against the Latins and the Turks.
@dudenamedhero
@dudenamedhero 2 жыл бұрын
Better the Turkish turban than the Papal tiara.
@pseudomonas03
@pseudomonas03 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudenamedhero And at the end the disaster came by both of them, but mainly from inside...
@acidboyssuper3446
@acidboyssuper3446 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudenamedhero better in our own
@ahmetcan7979
@ahmetcan7979 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudenamedhero as I Turk I much prefer unity of anatolia
@BasileusRex
@BasileusRex 2 жыл бұрын
Sad but elegant and beautiful
@msb8792
@msb8792 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very fascinating that in many ways a heavy sense of Byzantine identity still exists until today; I’m not sure how prevalent it is in Greece, but I’m from the Levant, and a Byzantine identification is still very heavily present for many Christians from the Greek Orthodox Church (Byzantine Orthodox Church). If you come from a family that’s part of that community, so many elements of your world and Childhood are ingrained in Byzantine elements, including art, chant, music, terminology, and lots of other things …etc. Also adding to that fact, the local Arabic name for the community is still “Rūm Orthodox”, meaning “Orthodox Romans”.
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks today consider themselves very much to be the direct descendants of the Byzantine 'Romans'
@user-pq2ut6yz2v
@user-pq2ut6yz2v 2 жыл бұрын
Hello my brother. The state and the greek oligarchs are focus on the classical period because they are little bitches of the west. And the modern west is all about the ancient Greeks, democracy etc. But In reality the average Greek (even an atheist) feels much closer to the Byzantine indentity which is normal. How Is the Rum community in Levant ?
@forgetful9845
@forgetful9845 2 жыл бұрын
Where are you from?
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 2 жыл бұрын
@@forgetful9845 I'm a Greek living in Australia.
@guglielmovalentino8626
@guglielmovalentino8626 Жыл бұрын
I'm from Salentos in far south Italy, here people speak a language called Griko that it is essentially a Greece dialect, similar to Koinè the main language during byzantine era, here we respect Constantinople's history, I suggest to all of you to come here in Otranto/Hydruntos and join 💪
@expandedhistory
@expandedhistory 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The word ‘Crusades’, wasn’t used when the wars first started. Sanctioned by the church, the Crusades were simply military expeditions. They got their current meaning in the late 18th century. The root of the word goes back to the 16th-century French word croisade, which essentially means ‘marked with the cross’.
@infinitysck8094
@infinitysck8094 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I actually never knew this, thank you! Also your channel isn’t to bad itself, great content. You earned a new sub!
@overlord5068
@overlord5068 2 жыл бұрын
Catholic here and proud of what happened
@kontrarevolucijonar7764
@kontrarevolucijonar7764 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all historical expressions and names are terms
@sa25-svredemption98
@sa25-svredemption98 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Although religious belief was a key motivator for recruitment, they were fundamentally (and especially in the first and last Crusades) geopolitical conflicts with significant impacts on commerce and economics, strategic positioning, access to resources, etc. In reality, no different to many other wars fought without core religious or ideological motivations. For the first few Crusades, the term "police action" might very well have been applied by contemporaries, had such a term existed back then! The last few, obviously, were existential wars regarding the future existence of the Balkans and Europe (including the Siege of Vienna).
@pogo8050
@pogo8050 2 жыл бұрын
PepoG
@alexk7973
@alexk7973 2 жыл бұрын
I really like how throughout the video, the Eastern Romans are called Romans, as they would have called themselves, not Byzantines, what they were called by others later…
@alexk7973
@alexk7973 2 жыл бұрын
I also always enjoy seeing the maps with all the borders and nations of the day. I appreciate that you don‘t just annotate the immediate region you talk about in the video, but so much further out as well. It might not be pertinent to the content of this video, how borders were drawn at the time in the British Isles or the Iberian Peninsula, but I frequently pause the video, just to take a closer look and to remind myself of what was happening in other places at the time. Generally speaking, modern society likes to believe that globalization is a new phenomenon and matters were kept much more local or regional „way back when“, but really, the Crusades are a great example of how interconnected life and people were even „way back then“.
@alexk7973
@alexk7973 2 жыл бұрын
it does underline their worldview and personal convictions, though. To them, even though that Rome was no where near the territory they held, they were the Romans. The real Romans. Everyone else were Barbarians. The name „Byzantines“ doesn‘t have the same meaning.
@maxion5109
@maxion5109 2 жыл бұрын
really the term Byzantine refers to the *culture* of the eastern Romans as observed by western Renaissance scholars during the 16th-century and by that time it had long seized to be a political reality. The scholar who coined the term Byzantium was Hieronymus Wolf and for him it was supposed to highlight a Christian culture with roots in a pre-Christian past, not empire, even though it had been. It hints at an identity-shift in culture that according to some historians started around the time of Justinian, (6th-century), roughly around the time of the beginning ot the Early Medieval Period. I assume by this argument is that simply too much had changed in the East for them to justifiably be called Romans and Romans only, and that "Rome" is something that always will be synonymous with the Classical Civilization of the ancient world, i.e Ancient Rome, and doesn't belong to the Middle Ages. Political realities, successions and governments nothwithstanding. I don't claim to have an answer to these questions. They are raised by different historians and i'm sure there are differing views on this among them depending on who you ask/read.
@ampeerprime421
@ampeerprime421 2 жыл бұрын
If you no longer exist, people will call you and say about you whatever they like.
@oliet9947
@oliet9947 2 жыл бұрын
You might be interested to know that although the term Byzantine was created centuries before, it only became widely adopted in Academia during the Crimean War when it was feared in the West that the Russians would create a puppet state based on the Eastern Roman Empire (the war started by Russia invading the Ottoman Empire). Byzantium was a deliberately empty term deployed for political reasons to derive the Eastern Roman Empire of any unifying identity and so undermine any attempt by Russia to re-create it. I learned about this from one of Antony Kaldellis’s podcasts - the academic who wrote Romanland and has most promoted the Roman identity of the Eastern Roman Empire
@huseyincobanoglu531
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Conquering Constantinople by the Ottomans was a massive success. But now I understand it was already destroyed within. Thank you Kings and Generals Team for this amazing documentary.
@vulkunne1542
@vulkunne1542 2 жыл бұрын
Correct. Manzikert, ie... Sultanate of Rum was really the end of them. Sad though, didn't have to be that way but they could not manage their internal corruption and because of this the leadership that did care could not stand against the Turks. A better foreign policy and a little respect might have put a stop to the Turk invasions before they even started as they were more interested in conquering Syria/Egypt areas... at first.
@huseyincobanoglu531
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 жыл бұрын
@@vulkunne1542 The Byzantium leadership that took notice of the Turkish threat was betrayed by their own and even after the Sultan spared the defeated Emporers life and realised him (which is unbelievable by the way for such an era) the Emporer returned home only to be captured and tortured. And yes, Turks never intended to establish themselves in Anatolia but almost invited to do so by disorder of the Empire. I think if it wasn't the Turks it would have certainly be the Bulgars or the Latins that took over. Ofcourse we will never know.
@vulkunne1542
@vulkunne1542 2 жыл бұрын
@@huseyincobanoglu531 Yeah that's true.
@alex3987654
@alex3987654 2 жыл бұрын
@@huseyincobanoglu531 Manzikert was a disaster because Byzantium lost eastern and part of central Anatolia. But what really destroyed the Empire was the fourth crusade, we see that after Mantzkert, with a competent emperor,, eastern empire found the strenghs to counter attack. But with the fall of Constantinople, it wasn't possible anymore, Venice took a huge place in the garden if Byzantines and it was too strong for the future Emperor. As usual with Byzantines, it's not the miliary defeat the disaster but the political mess just after.... Siege of Constantinople in 1453 is a real joke when you have in mind what was the city in 1204 or during the 12 century,.
@huseyincobanoglu531
@huseyincobanoglu531 2 жыл бұрын
@@alex3987654 couldn't agree more
@serenus1974
@serenus1974 2 жыл бұрын
2:05 Well technically Liutprand first insulted the emperor. It is said that when he was brought in the imperial throne room he called the German emperor "the Emperor of the Romans" which was quite insulting considering the Byzantines were (or at least considered themselves to be) Romans
@user-ro9ms4hq5y
@user-ro9ms4hq5y 2 жыл бұрын
Yeap, this was left out for some reason.
@paprskomet
@paprskomet 2 жыл бұрын
It was like that Liutprand refered his masters(Otho II and III)as "Roman" Emperors but in Constantinople they persistently ignored to also call them like that.They just called them "kings"(because they did not even agree with their title of Emperors not to mention Roman ones).Liutprand protested and tried to save situations by suggesting they say "king" but it is only lost in translation and they in reality mean "Emperor" but "Byzantines" said to him:"no you understand it correctly-we mean King not Emperor."In other words they refused western rulers to share the same highest title.Apart from this Liutprand insulted Nikephoros by giving him letter from the Pope where Pope adressed him as Greek Emperor of the Greeks.Liutprand claims that Nikephoros thought Pope did not had this from his own head,that he alone would not dared to call him like that and that he did so most likely because German emperor instigated him to do that to intentionally insult Nikephoros and to doubt his state was a Roman Empire.Eventually Liutprand had heated debate with Byzantine nobles strictly insisting on being actual Romans that he get enraged and eventually histerically capitulate claiming to talk to them in this style:..."oh,yeah so be those Romans if you are so mad about it,keep that identity of people who were once founded from whores and criminals since Romulus established Rome from such people according to legends of Romans themselves,we primitives of the west as you think about us might not have such illustrious descent as you but at least we are from decent and noble tribes unlike Romans".
@misterpikes7600
@misterpikes7600 2 жыл бұрын
@@paprskomet Thats very nice, do you know where you got that info from ?
@friedbanana69
@friedbanana69 2 жыл бұрын
@@paprskomet dude u are describing it like you were there...
@tylerellis9097
@tylerellis9097 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterpikes7600 Look up His Wikipedia page, his entire firsthand account can be found there.
@jeremy1860
@jeremy1860 2 жыл бұрын
The Byzantines had a lot of bad times in their history, and having the crusaders rampaging around their lands is definitely one of them 😟
@hasantorun5410
@hasantorun5410 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly they were than us(Turks). Moreover they are the reason fall of byzantine empire, they destroyed st.ramonos gate(edirnekapi in Turkish) that was point Ottomans attacked and conquered the city. Even if Turks have taken costantinople they did not destroyed any historical monument or church(except hypodrom), they just converted churchs to mosque.
@midgetporn9735
@midgetporn9735 2 жыл бұрын
@@hasantorun5410 which is sad. hope the greeks retains constantinople.
@hasantorun5410
@hasantorun5410 2 жыл бұрын
@@midgetporn9735 in their dreams maybe.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 2 жыл бұрын
The Crusades are an excuse found by the Romans to cover up their mistakes. The court intrigues, the generals' rebellion, and their innumerable civil wars wreaked more havoc than the Crusaders and Turks combined. They were destined to fall.
@dragonborn3283
@dragonborn3283 2 жыл бұрын
@@midgetporn9735 ha ha ha... let them try
@gelisgeo1309
@gelisgeo1309 2 жыл бұрын
Pope John Paul II during his visit to Athens 2001 apologize and ask for mercy to Greek Patriarch for Crusaders in 1204 "we turned against the brothers in Christ." sayd. Pope Francis in Athens (2021) repeated this apology to the Greeks
@nikospapadopoulos1041
@nikospapadopoulos1041 2 жыл бұрын
You fail to mention at the beginning that the wrath and treatment (even short imprisonment) by the rough and soldier like Nicephoros Phokas of Liutprand of Cremona was instigated by the latter's addressing the Emperor(Basileus) as Emperor of the Greeks and not with his proper title as Emperor of the Romans.
@tylerellis9097
@tylerellis9097 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, he was treated rough from the Start. But that’s also because he was a diplomat of the HRE who was at War with them and a turncoat from the Kingdom of Italy, Byzantium’s ally destroyed by Otto. And to be fair the HRE had the balls to send a diplomat making demands when the Byzantines were beating that Holy Roman Ass in a war they didn’t start.
@marcusmacris464
@marcusmacris464 2 жыл бұрын
Greco Roman world destroyed and plundered from all sides and from within, is truly a tragedy.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like what happened to the Western Roman Empire as well. Stand united or fall divided
@koolaid255
@koolaid255 2 жыл бұрын
I had to pause it dead on the 2 minute mark to stop and tell you how visually stunning that map looks....I subscribed around the 800,000 members days and since then the quality of your videos has multiplied immeasurably....thank you and thank you again!!
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 2 жыл бұрын
The maps are the reason why I subscribed and watch the videos instead of just listening
@koolaid255
@koolaid255 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianweibrecht6555 Roger that....I'm with ya....but hell I still listen to it while I'm "historiographing" myself to sleep....that narrator could put a tweaked out crack monster to sleep with his smooth ass "furthermores"!!!! Keep it up KAG!!
@kadaltokek3953
@kadaltokek3953 2 жыл бұрын
2:05, that was Liutprand mistake, he insulted Basileus by addresing his Emperor as King of the Romans while everyone knows even England in that time, Basileus was the real King of the Romans
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 2 жыл бұрын
Except that Liutprand was horribly insulted and mistreated long before that; he was likely using such language BECAUSE of his mistreatment.
@lesROKnoobz
@lesROKnoobz 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 he was a subhuman barbarian. He deserved the insults
@MrKILLINOOBZ
@MrKILLINOOBZ Ай бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 No - he went in like a propaganda machine and paid the price.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Ай бұрын
@@MrKILLINOOBZ Then I guess the Byzantines paid the price for their arrogance later. Congrats.
@fatrkuh8948
@fatrkuh8948 2 жыл бұрын
This occupation caused Istanbul/Constantinapole to lose its Byzantine architecture. Many artifacts and structures from Byzantium were either looted, plundered or vandalized. Along with this occupation, many artifacts were smuggled to Europe. The quadrigo bronze horse statues in St. Marco's Basilica, the tetrahi statues, the bronze works of the walled obelisk in Sultanahmet Square are just a few of the known ones. The priceless wealth of Istanbul/Constantinapole was unfortunately extinguished by the crusaders. Only a few valuable items were preserved, but compared to what was lost, almost nothing was preserved. Imagine that many works from Istanbul now decorate buildings, structures, streets or palaces in Europe. And almost everyone who sees it says, "Oh, how beautifully made." says. But they do not know that they are the wealth of Istanbul/Constantinapole and Byzantium.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 Жыл бұрын
Warlords with their selfish greed for power robbed everyone of massive wealth. Those riches were because one massive roman empire economy building for 1k years. Many wonders were built at the height in antiquity. But countless countries including yours is ran by morons who rather have sole power of a small state than see everyone united. They rather destroy shit than let things continue building. If constantinople never had plague or fallen (even as a small corrupt state), it would by far be the riches city in the world today
@fatrkuh8948
@fatrkuh8948 Жыл бұрын
In this comment I wanted to emphasize the horror of the crusader raids in Istanbul/Constantinopole. You looked at it from a political point of view. Also, I don't understand why you want people to be united. People are made up of different races and tribes. Their religions, traditions and even food cultures are different. Therefore, they do not have a common goal and therefore it is only natural that they want to live by establishing small states. But when they occupy each other's land, they have to respect what the people of other cultures have built there and what is sacred. The plunder mentality, just like the crusaders, does not respect this and burns and even steals those holy ones. Unlike your opinion, I don't think countless rulers and states act with this looting mentality. If it were, the temple of Zeus in the ancient city of Aizanoi would have been destroyed long ago or you wouldn't be able to see the pyramids in Egypt and Sudan. Or you couldn't see the Ziggurats in Iraq and therefore you wouldn't know what great architects societies like the Sumerians and Babylonians were. I think it has to do with the intellectuality of these societies, and in the 10-12th centuries European societies were not intellectual enough and therefore thought ignorantly and cruelly. Or as an other example you can count the Mongols. Genghis Khan may have been a war genius, but he was too culturally ignorant and cruel. Ancient Mesopotamian cities such as Persepolis and Baghdad unfortunately suffered greatly from his cruelty, and the result is massive destruction and plunder.
@Based_ippokrates
@Based_ippokrates 2 жыл бұрын
I am a huge fan of Greek history, as a Greek myself and have seen every single video of your channel about Greek history during my lunchtime. I appreciated every moment of them because they are so accurate and objective. For the byzantine part of history (I prefer to say the Romeiko part of history but is widely known as Byzantine) I have read numerous books with the most notable being the "history of the byzantine empire" of A. Vasiliev, and your videos depict the best what i have read in an animated way. Therefore I have to say a great thank you for your work, keep up with those great efforts and I hope someday a filmmaker company to make a film for this fascinating part of history which is literally non-existent.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 Жыл бұрын
Byzantine a term given by Rome’s enemies out of jealousy. England, France, Spain, Italy, Libya, Egypt, Israel, Syria, Turkey, Bulgaria, and Albania (and more) all hate Eastern Rome for many reasons. Their elite know their power belongs to Rome not them. To make everyone forget, they call you Byzantine
@AstralisSirius
@AstralisSirius Жыл бұрын
So you Greeks truly feel Romans…mad respect from a Roman himself. Una faccia una razza 🇮🇹❤️🇬🇷
@Based_ippokrates
@Based_ippokrates Жыл бұрын
@@AstralisSirius 🇮🇹❤️🇬🇷
@ionutpaun9828
@ionutpaun9828 9 ай бұрын
Anthony Kaldellis has a new book on the Eastern Roman Empire coming up soon. Should be more up date than A. Vasiliev's books.
@sprc155
@sprc155 5 ай бұрын
@@AstralisSirius IT---> Lombard (not Roman xD)
@MateusToussaint
@MateusToussaint 2 жыл бұрын
This is so sad... It is like a quote from Silmarillion "But of bliss and glad life there is little to be said, before it ends; as works fair and wonderful, while still they endure for eyes to see, are their own record, and only when they are in peril or broken for ever do they pass into song"
@V-man117
@V-man117 2 жыл бұрын
As a Greek, this kind of topics break my heart 💔
@SwedishSinologyNerd
@SwedishSinologyNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Heck, I'm Swedish and I think the slow, torturous decline and fall of Byzantium is one of the saddest points in European history...
@Rissamlu
@Rissamlu 2 жыл бұрын
@@SwedishSinologyNerd On the other hand, it lasted a thousand years. That is a kind of stability other nations dream of, even if there was slow decline.
@Rissamlu
@Rissamlu 2 жыл бұрын
One day we'll all pray together in the Hagia Sophia
@lamborghiniurus2660
@lamborghiniurus2660 2 жыл бұрын
You mean as eastrean roman *
@edim_35gs
@edim_35gs 2 жыл бұрын
Greek proverb "You get used to the cold" Thank you Atatürk, he taught you how to swim.
@matthewboyle2641
@matthewboyle2641 2 жыл бұрын
Alexios inviting the crusaders is like when you invite a friend over you haven't seen in years, then you realize how much they've changed and that you actually can't stand them.
@alex3987654
@alex3987654 2 жыл бұрын
And at the end this dear friend burn your house and r.. your wife !
@gtsep_the_mapper
@gtsep_the_mapper 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this chanel actually does Byzantine history stuff
@snicket87
@snicket87 2 жыл бұрын
Bizantines are so relevant tô our western Society, but also so neglected in history teachings. Thank you for the vídeo! Great job!!
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 Жыл бұрын
Because everyone hated them. The holy roman empire exists to mock it. Guess who writes their history? Pretenders to roman territories. They have 0 interest in legitimizing Rome ever again. In fear, call them Byzantine. And Greek leaders dont want to give up power either, they rather keep their weak ancient greek culture instead of letting the ruler of spain hold roman power because he has its paper rights.
@amienabled6665
@amienabled6665 2 жыл бұрын
I'm no history expert but I have a weird feeling that the Byzantines had a negative view on the fourth crusade.
@obaidaserdar1780
@obaidaserdar1780 2 жыл бұрын
Of every crusade since the first .... they were supportive of it at the start but they witnessed many cases of looting which prompted them to despise the crusaders however political leaders didn't hate it untill things went south with Antioch
@tylerellis9097
@tylerellis9097 2 жыл бұрын
@@obaidaserdar1780 Yeah the First Crusade had the full support of the Byzantine army and navy with both in unison until Antioch. People forget Byzantine officials and Guides were with the Crusaders. Everything went to shit when that Deserter misled Alexios.
@obaidaserdar1780
@obaidaserdar1780 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerellis9097 they had the support of the leadership not the peasants ...the peasants were very supportive at the start but as soon as the soldiers started abusing the land they are passing by the people of eastern empire detested them You have to understand that crusaders thought of eastern Christians as heretics and Latinised their churches or destroyed it and massacred many of them ... something caused many eastern Christians to fight to the side of Muslims
@tylerellis9097
@tylerellis9097 2 жыл бұрын
@@obaidaserdar1780 There is no recorded massacres of an Orthodox Town in the first Crusade, the crusader army was trailed by a Byzantine one when it went through Byzantine territory. One town was by Massacred by Bohemond when he went off course but it was a Paulican Town which the Catholics actually considered Heretics. Same with the 2nd no Orthodox towns were massacred. We also know Native townsmen tried to swindle the Crusaders. Byzantine sources tell Manuel In the 2nd told his governors to inflate grain prices when the Crusaders arrived in Bulgaria. Their pillaging wasn’t always unjustified. There was no widespread persecution and harassment Of Orthodoxs by Catholics until after the 4th Crusade. Orthodox Greek Churches in Italy were allowed to operate in Greek with no persecution from the Normans or Church until the 1200s. There was mistrust and cultural differences between the sides but it wasn’t due to their faiths yet. Hungary and Croatia also got pillaged by crossing Crusading Armies despite being Catholic. The Third Crusade was a mess on both sides and Serbian/Bulgarian interaction flaring things up alongside Byzantine countermoves didn’t help. And peasants aren’t the ones writing our sources. Educated Priests and Officals safe in Constantinople, Thessaloniki and other Urban walled Cities were.
@obaidaserdar1780
@obaidaserdar1780 2 жыл бұрын
@@tylerellis9097 the massacres I have mentioned was against the Levant Christians however records of peasants resentment exists in the Assyrian records of churches which is by the way does care about peasants not just rulers ...again yeah rulers weren't annoyed till fourth crusade but public opinion didn't support the crusades ....that opinion is eventually what led to the Byzantine power struggle to take place More over the prices inflation is normal when armies pass an area with out proper rationing which was the lesson crusaders learned the hard way ...and it wasn't in anyway a justification for the acts in Hungary
@bevenaflame
@bevenaflame 2 жыл бұрын
I've been following KnG back since 2015. Am so proud to see how this channel has grown and continues growing!
@hanzup4117
@hanzup4117 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kings and Generals for yet another answer to a question I never knew I wanted an answer to.
@drakehashimoto685
@drakehashimoto685 2 жыл бұрын
Eastern Roman history, among other histories, is always a treat for me, given that I've been studying roman history for years now and so watching these vids Kings and Generals, again, among others is always refreshing, especially when looking at those attractive maps ;)
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 2 жыл бұрын
Crusades from western perspective: “Lerooooooy Jenkins!” Crusades from muslim perspective: “WTF is that?!” Crusades from Byzantine perspective: “(Chuckles) I’m in danger…”.
@Mohammadkwt
@Mohammadkwt 2 жыл бұрын
On point 🤣
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 2 жыл бұрын
@TELL LIE VISION television In fact, the reason for the destruction of the Templars was the wealth that the knights accumulated. The King of France needed money and the knights had money.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 2 жыл бұрын
@TELL LIE VISION television The charges were frauds created by the king to get the Templars' money. That reminded me of the proscription of 43 BC which The aim was to eliminate political enemies, and acquire their properties. What do you think?
@remilenoir1271
@remilenoir1271 Жыл бұрын
@@vitorpereira9515 It was more so about their political power than a need for money. Philippe le Bel saw the Templar organisation as a state in the state which threatened the centralised monarchical power; the fact that they were rich and the wealth that was to be gained in dissolving the order was only a happy consequence of that.
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
@@remilenoir1271 They were proscripted.
@HistoryfortheAges
@HistoryfortheAges 2 жыл бұрын
You guys always make amazing content. Keep it up.
@user-gk9mj5bo2e
@user-gk9mj5bo2e 6 ай бұрын
The Palaiologian period gave significant and wonderful art despite the bad condition of the empire
@bowenc24
@bowenc24 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool to see a different view of the Crusades, would love more of these types of videos!
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
Luitpuld was treated like that because they don’t recognise his empire as Rome or as Emperor of the Romans.
@charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181
@charlesedwardandrewlincoln8181 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredible! I would love to have an even more detailed account of the events regarding the Byzantine empire around this time and the crusades in general.
@Louis-ji3sn
@Louis-ji3sn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, absolutely can't wait for more Crusader stuff!
@BattleHistories
@BattleHistories 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, another great video on another interesting piece of history!
@0ak3nshi3ld88
@0ak3nshi3ld88 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about this. Excellent "historical detective" work.
@jmvm31
@jmvm31 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel! Best thing on youtube.
@Primetiime32
@Primetiime32 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload
@yesihsaid
@yesihsaid 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see, I learnt a lot with this one again 👍
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job
@aarondemiri486
@aarondemiri486 2 жыл бұрын
historical perspective is so fascinating whatever book or video on history I read or watch I find myself rooting for someone or a side and then when I'm given the others sides story I root for them against those whom I originally supported. History is so marred in grey complexity I find it so enjoyable being shown both sides. Very rarely is one side overwhelming in the right.
@drakehashimoto685
@drakehashimoto685 2 жыл бұрын
True, though to prevent any bias, I tend to perceive the sides through a, through much effort, objective perspective.Historical nuances and intricacies make history quite a treat if I may say.
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff, thanks!
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video from Kings & Generals! 😎⚔🙏
@michaelheater1969
@michaelheater1969 Жыл бұрын
As always this is another great video from you
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the information 👍🏻
@barnabaszu
@barnabaszu 9 ай бұрын
fantastic work
@mahinahmed4002
@mahinahmed4002 2 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video
@locknickmonster721
@locknickmonster721 Жыл бұрын
Love this content!
@ricocampos1331
@ricocampos1331 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! 👏👏👏
@EloiFL
@EloiFL 2 жыл бұрын
Gràcies!
@CSSPMSwithMuhammadAli
@CSSPMSwithMuhammadAli 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative videos
@georgiok.6407
@georgiok.6407 2 жыл бұрын
Ioannes Cinnamos' history (επιτομή ιστοριών) is an amazing work. From all the writers you have mentioned Cinnamos, in my oppinion, is better because he emphasizes to military issues instead of the court.
@ChristopherThrawn-el3sz
@ChristopherThrawn-el3sz 2 ай бұрын
As always Excellent 👍👌
@primumhistoriae8458
@primumhistoriae8458 Жыл бұрын
Great Video!!!
@hjc1402
@hjc1402 5 ай бұрын
8:43 “he had the difficult task of filling his fathers shoes and restoring balance to the empire” Ah yes my favorite line from Star Wars.
@desssval
@desssval 2 жыл бұрын
Great series.
@arturoliveira748
@arturoliveira748 2 жыл бұрын
Very good documentary 👍👍👍
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 2 жыл бұрын
18:12 Władysław III had an enormous potential as a ruler, and could've potentially taken Byznatium under his protection... But of course he had to change the course of history by dying like the 20-year old idiot he was (says an 18 year old, none the wiser)
@LordVelari
@LordVelari 2 жыл бұрын
And would be so cool to see Hunyadi as the new king of Bulgaria. Ō all the missed opportunities…
@silasbishop3055
@silasbishop3055 2 жыл бұрын
Well Done!
@dshock85
@dshock85 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care what anyone says....its 2000 years of Roman history....Roman tragedy....
@0Rurik
@0Rurik Жыл бұрын
Tarihi anlatimlari cok seviyorum. Basiralirinizin devamini diliyorum🫡
@HellenicWolf
@HellenicWolf 2 жыл бұрын
good one
@nikostoss1199
@nikostoss1199 2 жыл бұрын
I am Greek of Pontic descent and even today my grandmother keeps repeating the old greek saying «πάλι με χρόνια με καιρούς, πάλι δικά μας θα είναι», which essentially means “in time they will be ours again”, referring mainly to Constantinople and the lands of Anatolia. Gives me the damn chills. Thank you Kings and Generals for bringing Greek history to the spotlight, as it is often overlooked
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely unlikely. Such nationalism really shouldn't inform policy, or be encouraged. As we see in Russia; there are consequences of it.
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 2 жыл бұрын
@@shortcrypto7490 Yeah, Turks are not much better than Greeks in this regard. Irredentism is a curse.
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 2 жыл бұрын
@@shortcrypto7490 Athens was only yours from the perspective a foreign people conquering what was never theirs and had no connection to it whatsover. Constantinople, on the other hand, was OUR capital ... founded and populated by OUR people.
@nikostoss1199
@nikostoss1199 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephenjenkins7971 The comment was not meant to be nationalistic, of course something like that is extremely unlikely and in fact shouldn’t happen. Just wanted to point out a tradition that lives on today since 1453, and the continuity of the greco-roman identity
@Hioloi
@Hioloi Жыл бұрын
Cringe greek grandma. Chameria will be Albania again. Greeks have been losing 2000 years straight. Albanians are the reason you got your independence. Never forget that, jorgo.
@GnosticInformant
@GnosticInformant 2 жыл бұрын
This is seriously one of the greatest channels of all time
@dayanbalevski4446
@dayanbalevski4446 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are beutifully crafted... very high quality!
@24Nasorangmal
@24Nasorangmal Жыл бұрын
Good video
@gilbertplays
@gilbertplays 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a video about r/place showing the battles we took there.
@dasdblian3459
@dasdblian3459 2 жыл бұрын
Noticed use some of the animations from other videos about constantinople before only like 2 or 3 but just thought id mention.
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you , K&G . 🐺
@MegaMayday16
@MegaMayday16 Жыл бұрын
I live in the city of Cologne in Germany. The city was founded by the Romans as Colonia Claudia Ara Agrippinensis. During medieval times it was part of the holy Roman empire and the language was German. Here is a church that has the tomp of a Greek aristocratic lady. Her name is theophanu. She was sent from Constantinople to marry the German Kaiser they appreciated her as daughter of the advances and civilized roman empire and they hoped that that will give Legitimation to their empire
@brokenbridge6316
@brokenbridge6316 2 жыл бұрын
I will always like and appreciate another point of view when it comes to history. And it seems to be that both the Byzantines and the Western Europeans were laboring under misconceptions and arrogance about the other in equal measure. Such things always lead to tragedy. And did. (Sack of Constantinople 4th Crusade).
@imd8875
@imd8875 2 жыл бұрын
I see ERE on the map (not Byzantine Empire), I instantly hit like! Now, let’s watch) And yeah, thanks for the content, guys!
@pouyamori3861
@pouyamori3861 2 жыл бұрын
napoleonic wars would be a good series if you were looking for another awsome series kings and generals
@jaylo9421
@jaylo9421 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone was pumping helium into your sound studio during this recording ;)
@satriayudha9953
@satriayudha9953 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing
@skull2470
@skull2470 2 жыл бұрын
Can you explain (romance of the three kingdoms) battle of hefei? no one has explained it even though it was a remarkable battle where 800 soldiers of wei beat back 100,000 soldiers of wu.
@direwoulf1663
@direwoulf1663 2 жыл бұрын
Have you done an episode on Shaka Zulu? I always admired the story of a bastard born son hated from birth becoming a leader by his own right and uniting dozens of long warring tribes under his rule
@JOGA_Wills
@JOGA_Wills 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they have not really touched the race for Africa or whatever the hell they call it .. oh scramble
@ScapularSaves
@ScapularSaves 2 жыл бұрын
Could you expand on Constantine XI's battles before the Fall of Constantinople ?
@lexbor3511
@lexbor3511 Жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about Georgian "Golden Age" and time around it? From 7 century destruction of old Georgian Kingdoms - Iberia and Kolkhida (Lazika), later unification of Georgia by united Kingdoms of Abkhazia and Tao-Klarjeti, later reconquering Georgians lands by king David the Builderer, later "Goldern Age" of King Tamar, later Mongol period, later reunification of Georgia, Temur Leng period and later the split of Georgia into several principalities under Iran or Ottomans until the Russians came. The same can be done for a history of Armenia and Azerbaijan (Caucasus Albania, Shirvan...) (I know it will trigger hysterical arguments in comment section from everybody from that region but who cares)
@r.filipesilva3896
@r.filipesilva3896 2 жыл бұрын
Name of song from 2:00 Thank you
@Bits89
@Bits89 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about operation barborosa
@AegeanGreywolf
@AegeanGreywolf 2 жыл бұрын
Battle of Myriokephalon please
@theromanorder
@theromanorder 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please do a video on the new Zealand land wars the Australian frontier wars and finish the Arab series like what happened to them after the goth turks then the mongals then the selugic turks then the ottomans
@mowm88
@mowm88 Жыл бұрын
John Komnenus deserves a standalone video guys.
@alex3987654
@alex3987654 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree, excellent Roman Emperor but was here between two more famous rulers.
@Newidhan
@Newidhan 2 жыл бұрын
800 years and I'm still not over it. Why do I keep watching videos about 1204.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 Жыл бұрын
Because Rome still is the envy of the world. Even if we recreated it, we can never replace the networking and economy built over a thousand years that Constantinople had. Even then, they were weaker than during Antiquity where it afforded so many wonders that people are still in awe of today because they were united. Now we are run by weak leaders and separated as English, French, Italians, Libyans, Egyptians, Israeli, Syrians, Turks, Albanians, Bulgarians, Ukrainian, Greek, and more. We used to Roman and better for it.
@ofi1238
@ofi1238 2 жыл бұрын
15:58 would appreciated if you would have a link of a mentioned video.
@KingsandGenerals
@KingsandGenerals 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2jClqp9i9Rpa80
@dioni5580
@dioni5580 2 жыл бұрын
Alexios Komnenos didn't commanded the crusading army but it was by a byzantine who had the same name. Alexios
@carlodius7035
@carlodius7035 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the background music starting at 6:30
@qwertyguy12345
@qwertyguy12345 2 жыл бұрын
"The Catholic Constantine XI' - is this correct? Was under the impression he followed Orthodoxy but was willing to accept his churches subservience to the Latin rite.
@muazzamshaikh2049
@muazzamshaikh2049 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Constantinople would've been captured by the Turks had the relations between Byzantines and the West been good. As Will Durant said, no civilization is destroyed from outside until it has destroyed itself from inside.
@majormarketing6552
@majormarketing6552 Жыл бұрын
Not a chance
@anonymos59
@anonymos59 2 жыл бұрын
This must be an example for reading history from all perspectives.Then you figure out what is happening. Whoever read Byzantine history, will realize the issues of this region.
@IBrainedMyDamage
@IBrainedMyDamage 2 жыл бұрын
Rüm is also where Mvlana Rumi gets his name
@Muradmb1986
@Muradmb1986 2 жыл бұрын
You are the best YT channel ever .. best of puck
@danielcuevas5899
@danielcuevas5899 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 wasn’t it nikephoros 1st not the 2nd that insulted the germanic king?
@legioromanaxvii7644
@legioromanaxvii7644 2 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work, and please do not stop calling them what they called themselves: Romans!
@aycemanm8151
@aycemanm8151 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video focusing on John II and Manuel I, the latter which I think you covered too harshly. He had many accomplishments during his reign and had the emperor had a strong succession it could have continued to be very successful. The treasury was not empty at the end of his reign as the Empire was collecting strong revenue more depleted would be correct. -Decisive victory against Hungary Battle of Sirmium which consolidated Byzantine control of the Western Balkans -The Egypt campaign failure is more on the crusader states than the Empire -Battle of Myriocephalum was not very significant defeat more a morale defeat Byzantines crushed that same Turkish army a year later at the Battle of Hyelion and Leimocheir, in 1179 a strong peace was confirmed -He handled the second crusade brilliantly. -Broke the Venice Monopoly.
@alex3987654
@alex3987654 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this video too ! Manuel wasn't a bad emperor but in my opinion he distracted too much from the goal pursued carefully by his fater John (an amazing emperor from what i read), goal being : destroy piece by piece, strike by strike the seljuks realms. His rule wasn't bad, but he didn't prepare well the sucession with his young son on the throne, helped by his unpopular mother. He kept the power firmly but he needed a really strong heir to continue after his death. Myriocephalum is famous but indeed had 0 impact on Byzantine Power, it had more an impact on Manuel's health eventually. If Manuel had focused to totally destroy and reconquer Anatolia at the end of his rule, the Byzantines Empire would have been in a more comfortable situation to face the f.g th Crusade and its impacts.
@aycemanm8151
@aycemanm8151 Жыл бұрын
@@alex3987654 agreed completely in fact in the 1160's had campaigned in Anatolia instead of wasting his time in Italy he would have taken Konya much easier since the Turks were not at all united by that point. But yes John II was a great ruler, had Manuel followed what his father did the history of Anatolia would be different. He should have left Bela as Heir or at least protector but yes it all makes for fascinating discussion.
@Bojanglesz89
@Bojanglesz89 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, what is Stephen of Blois doing on the map @14:37?
@Smithington_
@Smithington_ 2 жыл бұрын
There is an editing error at 1:19.
@istvansipos9940
@istvansipos9940 2 жыл бұрын
09:20 how do the borders of Rum make any sense? I mean, how can a country be landlocked all over the place with such a narrow ring around it, not making any successful push to any shore so near? And, to approach the question from another angle, how is that ring defendable? thank you
@MegaMayday16
@MegaMayday16 Жыл бұрын
Check out a map of turkeys topography. You might find the answer there are mountain
@psikogeek
@psikogeek 2 жыл бұрын
Religious tourists are among the most lucrative, but they must be kept from mischief, then and now.
@beachboy0505
@beachboy0505 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 📹 The Byzantines were clever, they always reinvented themselves
@ForTheEmperorOfMankindo7
@ForTheEmperorOfMankindo7 2 жыл бұрын
yeah.
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