When to Fold Despite Extreme Pot Odds (Hand Reading Tips)

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Күн бұрын

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@CrushlivePoker 4 ай бұрын

How would you have reacted to the big blind's unexpected lead on the flop?

@GWOAT 4 ай бұрын

Shoved on him

@nonleague8613 4 ай бұрын

As played. TJ, AJ KQ. Nothing that he beats gets to the river.

@GWOAT 4 ай бұрын

@@nonleague8613Even 10 10 a possibility

@nonleague8613 4 ай бұрын

@@GWOAT ruling out TT given the limp call pf. Very unlikely any sets on the flop.

@EricA-xd9fn 4 ай бұрын

12:06 "What is the purpose of betting $300 here?" Bart throwing darts!

@Mark-u3s8s 4 ай бұрын

Really sorry about this call guys. Didn’t think that Bart would upload it because I was all over the place, but I’m happy he did. Main reason I called it in was to see if I should have turned this into a 2-street game by making the raise bigger on the flop since I was more deep with villain #2. After Bart mentioned the bigger straight on the turn, I realized the play was probably to just check despite the sizing on the flop. Anyway, I was kinda nervous and tripping over myself since this was my first call. Also, I’m a recreational player so that doesn’t help either.

@andrewbrown7408 4 ай бұрын

No need to apologize. I can never remember my hands 5 minutes after it ends.

@datsumcrzysht 4 ай бұрын

Don’t be apologetic, you’re fine, this is how we all learn. In another couple of years, you’ll be able to better range opponents and bet accordingly.

@atfti 4 ай бұрын

Calling in and giving hand histories is the only way to get better at giving hand histories. You'll come to find that all the details matter. KQ is a significant portion of BB's range, but after the fold on the turn, it's not so bad. The river card is wildly brutal, but without seeing the showdown, I'm of the opinion that a fold is in order (especially given your player read), but I really wouldn't blame you if you called. KQ isn't in UTG's range too often. For the future, keep in mind that effective stacks are stacks belonging to the person with the least chips in it. As long as that player's in, then you can only win that much heads up. Where it goes multiway, effective stacks change based on whether that person folds or goes all in.

@nicholi2789 4 ай бұрын

You did just fine man. Don’t sweat it

@EllieBanks333 4 ай бұрын

You did great. I also thought you played it decent. Your sizing on flop was just a tad small, but definitely not a flawed amount. I would have jammed on turn though. I was not as concerned with KQ as Bart. KQ will usually open pre, rather than limp. And on this flop it is not that likely to donk from first position multiway. I mean... UTG could have limp called KQ off, then flopped too good to escape [although it really should fold after you raised - but almost no one will ever make this play]. The river is boring, even with the supposed "pot odds". Trivial fold.

@elindauer 4 ай бұрын

She might have Q9s as a bluff, but she has to pull the trigger with not much behind and hero showing strength the whole way. Given the player description I think good fold.

@supersmoo7377 3 ай бұрын

Am I crazy thinking it should’ve been raised to at least 40 pre-flop facing two limps?

@corley-ai 4 ай бұрын

I'm pushing that turn. if they have KQ, oh well.

@RemyLB 4 ай бұрын

This made me laugh so hard cause this is me 100%

@truth1013 3 ай бұрын

Against some players I don't call the open Ender because they won't pay it off. Against some I call with a smile on my face on the turn cuz knowing they will pay me

@montezuma6962 4 ай бұрын

Fact: there's no such thing as a clean runout when you flop a straight.

@burkhartlaw1 4 ай бұрын

Turn brings in a flush. River pairs the board. Always.

@jebbey16 4 ай бұрын

True, true. Last session, I flopped broadway with AJo. Turn is K and river is Q. Both opponents made boats.

@Nosirt 4 ай бұрын

😂 I had 87, flop: TJ9, turn 8, river T,

@williamr4053 4 ай бұрын

Only clean run out for a straight is you flop the nut end of the straight and the turn and river add to the dummy end of the straight. So 7 card nut straight. I will always say a flopped straight is one of the hardest hands to play multi-way, as everyone else can draw to a better hand but yourself.

@matthewmille 4 ай бұрын

I had a similar hand one time. Had 89 suited and flopped this exact straight. Checked to me. I bet big and villain called. Turn was a queen so now I have the sucker end of the straight. He checked. I bet big, villain called. River was a king and he leads all in. Now I lose to any ace. Sick runout and had to fold.

@Young-ep8ik 4 ай бұрын

Doesn’t sound similar at all. The villain in your hand has a lot of bluffs that you beat, unless his allin also gave you something like 6 to 1 to call.

@TomRauhe 4 ай бұрын

Fascinating how little people think about "what is their range" not coming up with "Ace is the worst card in the deck"

@GWOAT 4 ай бұрын

Barts Bots out in force 😂

@EllieBanks333 4 ай бұрын

I really want to know what this means, but I have a feeling you are not going to tell me.

@jovanmaric6160 4 ай бұрын

Great video

@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын

On flop. I put them on two pair. 777 ect

@frederickmccabe5675 4 ай бұрын

Does it make me a nit that this river is a trivial food for me? Board runs out worst card/worst card.

@Mark-u3s8s 4 ай бұрын

After the hand was over and I thought about it, I realized that it shouldn’t have taken me more than a minute to fold, especially with the way villain was playing.

@thomasrichardson-ev1wp 4 ай бұрын

My prediction is set of 7s vs kq for open ended

@mikey22355 3 ай бұрын

Hero should have just jammed the turn if he was planning on getting all in anyway. The board pairing would be the perfect card for the villain to bluff the river. Such a terrible run out after flopping a straight sucks.

@armank9927 4 ай бұрын

Splashy player maybe call. Could have trip jacks and put u on AK or AQ but to a nit snap fold

@Donkadocus 4 ай бұрын

Solid fold

@8532556 4 ай бұрын

this lvl of thinking playing 2-5?

@TheGuyCalledX 4 ай бұрын

Yeah I'm now sure how you don't consider KQ

@supersmoo7377 3 ай бұрын

No insult to the caller, but many times when I hear a 2/5 hand called in and I listen to the action of the other players and the caller, it certainly makes me want to go straight to 2/5 after playing 1/3 for a while.

@joncorb540 4 ай бұрын

Raise to 300 on the flop. Shove the turn. Cry when she calls and rivers the boat. Easy game.

@UncleJoeLITE 4 ай бұрын

Good fold, even though it hurt.

@Mossy5150 4 ай бұрын

What a great place to fold face up and earn some reputational equity. Zero chance a call is good here with only a straight

@charleslevy9305 4 ай бұрын

never show anyone anything ever

@TheGuyCalledX 4 ай бұрын

@@charleslevy9305only if you think villains can use that information better than you can

@fransfermont6193 4 ай бұрын

@@charleslevy9305 👍👍👍👍 Exacly no free information.

@jasonandkathleenbarker6306 2 ай бұрын

Ladies: please don’t follow this guy’s advice

@jackolini 4 ай бұрын

I don't think KQ makes that much sense. I think it's nearly always a check-call on the flop and a shove on the turn. That board should hit our range pretty well, it would seem odd for someone to do that with KQ. I think it is more likely a made hand. Also, I agree with Bart here that even sets, or JT don't make sense either. When the villain makes this bet on the flop, I would imagine it's something like JT/J7s/77 wants to get a raise and getting it in against likely overpairs or folds out some hands with equity (although the bet is too small to accomplish this). Or the bet at least would get rid of the caller between you and the villain. They should ship those hands given stack depths once you raise on the flop. I think it is one of those hands by the river, I just don't understand why they didn't go all in on the flop. I really don't think it is KQ. In any event, I think you made the correct fold. It really makes no sense for the person to be bluffing here given how you played the hand and there are like no value hands you are beating.

@sunchung4957 4 ай бұрын

She has J10

@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын

Or J7, or 77. Not sure why they didn't come up

@MyComedyStore 4 ай бұрын

@@mrhumble2937 you would think 77 would raise the flop, but maybe not a woman at 2/5

@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын

@MyComedyStore yea maybe scared a straight out there. But one of those 3. So same stuff, actually lost min.

@EllieBanks333 4 ай бұрын

@@mrhumble2937 She limped J7 from UTG??

@keyguy4752 4 ай бұрын

Yep or possibly 77, I'm thinking J,10 is most likely though.

@Printsandthepunter 4 ай бұрын

1010, 77, J10 KQ all possible

@4betjam604 4 ай бұрын

No ace, no nine, and please don’t pair the board! Ok, so what was the turn? The Ace of clubs……😂😂😂 in all seriousness I think I like a massive raise otf…like 400 looking to easily jam turn…

@corley-ai 4 ай бұрын

Easy jam turn.

@jeremykropf9487 3 ай бұрын

I play too much Omaha. This turn is an auto check lol

@johnburch2854 4 ай бұрын

No conversation needed... easiest fold ever

@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын

Why couldnt she have 77 which makes a full house? Thats what i put her on.

@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын

Or J7

@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын

Or j10. All the marginal hand flop hits

@MyComedyStore 4 ай бұрын

She should raise && on the flop, but maybe not a woman at 2/5.

@nicholi2789 4 ай бұрын

I was thinking 77/J10/ and some KQ.

@Fred-rg5vw 4 ай бұрын

@MyComedyStore Could you expand on the "woman at 2/5 " thing ? Are they generally nits ?

@330miggs 3 ай бұрын

Understand This: Aussies say 'Yiiis' rather than 'Yes'

@Icyhotkettlepot 4 ай бұрын

When the Big Bwind witerawy weads out after a wimp. I couldn’t believe it !!

@charleslevy9305 4 ай бұрын

I didn’t beweave it evver that was kweighzy

@shane8143 4 ай бұрын

Bullying the caller from the comments is loser behavior Hopefully the poker gods bring you many many bad beats

@aidanhickman6621 4 ай бұрын

Tosser

@katiemarshall7531 4 ай бұрын

Tearing down ppl with disabilities makes you feel better about yourself, huh champ? Weird flex

@TheSuperPro1 3 ай бұрын

Fold pre

@Dustin-m4z 4 ай бұрын

"Completing the rainbow..." Completing the rainbow... Sigh... Thats just, another reason to keep playing poker. Like hes playing badugi or something... Literally couldn't matter less to him that its an ace making KQ the straight, it completed the 🌈

@SmartAssBaboon 4 ай бұрын

BB can have 77

@EricEmery-vl3zo 4 ай бұрын

Here for it

@superfreeeeeak 4 ай бұрын

the cards were 98 siuted, right...right?!

@Yakivegas 4 ай бұрын

Villain in the story sounds Asian, most old Asian ladies get annoyed when asked. They give off the vibe like it’s offensive to even ask when I didn’t pay to see the cards… Which I don’t even mind ….

@966631514 3 ай бұрын

or she was confused because no high hand was possible

@alexandremuzzo 4 ай бұрын

lol @ folding a suited connector vs 2 limpers

@jj-se6ue 3 ай бұрын

S.M.H.

@omarfromthewire603 4 ай бұрын

Go to $50+ next time pre.... They'll prob ALL STILL CALL.. this is how AWFUL Players play...limp call,,limp call, limp call and hope to get lucky OOP multiway..... Don't worry about some GTO/Solver nerd telling you "10x pre is too much !!!" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

@JKenny44 3 ай бұрын

Yes you can go €50 and they will still call. Sometimes I vocalise it at the table "3 callers next time I'll go €70" I probably shouldn't say this 😂

@TinyKris2787 3 ай бұрын

Doorknob

@philiphildebrand8019 2 ай бұрын

what a terrible runout

@Stpaul35 4 ай бұрын

First

@benjamintaylor8665 3 ай бұрын

i wpuld have been all in om the turn. caller is weak

@letsgobrandon6281 4 ай бұрын

Dont like watching hands with no reveal. What's the point

@bryanryan4504 3 ай бұрын

Villain had higher straight

@vecter 3 ай бұрын

So you can use your brain and learn

@RunItTw1ce4858 4 ай бұрын

I'm about to unsubscribe when Bart says to check back 2nd nuts on the turn. Less than 1 SPR and @Bart wants to play cagey?

@Big_Old_Bondy Ай бұрын

Yes the SPR is low enough to call off but that's not the only consideration in the game. Suited connector type hands that go multiway like this can be a disaster. This is possibly the best example of this. You gotta be so careful with this type of hand multiway.