CSC Wiz 43 MPH $2.5k electric scooter review

[@marchills4131]

If CSC could combine the performance of the Wiz with the classic Honda Cub looks of the Monterey, they'd have a winner.

[@euntaekkim8544]

now put the guts of the Wiz on the classic looking scooter with it's price and I'll buy one

[@olamarvin]

The comments section loves mentioning unsprung weight, I agree that it doesn't matter here. Traditional scooters have had the engine and drivetrain on the swingarm since forever!

[@geemy9675]

💯 I don't even think 3kw hub motor is heavier than a125cc scooter engine +CVT. sure it further back on the swingarm so more travel but it's not gonna make that much of a difference anyway and scooters are not designed for crazy handling. they won't see a lot of canyon roads anyway considering the range and purpose of the vehicle, and if you want to have a nice week and ride on a sunny day, slowing down in corners compared to a a race bike is not a problem

[@fredmaldonado9204]

With all those features. It’s worth it’s weight in gold.

[@growmiezhomiez8760]

Great video guys! Thanks for the in depth review and beautiful cinematography!

[@ScottOstr]

Sooo close. Just needs a 4k rear hub motor. Maybe next year. Great review!

[@thermodynamics1110]

no...i think they're trying to get rid of these. they only have one model/year of these scooters

[@ScottOstr]

@@thermodynamics1110 They're smart to only offer what makes them money.

[@PavolMagic]

What do you mean "not fancy"? OK, it's not Sondors Metacycle, but for that price and with those specs it's just marvelous!

[@willjammski]

Looks like great value! Thanks Micah!

[@bigc1966]

Looks nice, great for spring/summer/fall for me for work commuting. very interested. tyvm

[@tjam4229]

Nice job. Keep ‘em coming.

[@HiagoSN]

full "ev" for less than 3k? perfect!

[@thermodynamics1110]

what's a half "ev"?

[@impulsivez4825]

@@thermodynamics1110 a phev

[@bluemoondiadochi]

That'd be the Changli EV car. You're welcome.

[@evshrug]

@@thermodynamics1110 Plug-in Hybrid, where you can go like 15-30 miles on electric and then gas takes you the rest of the way. Kind of a dying breed.

[@a.k.7116]

It looks perfect to me! What is everyone commenting against this sleek style? "Less is more!!"

[@pixelatedmushroom]

Wow.. LOVE the price on this thing! I was expecting the usual $7-10k

[@marcjtdc]

there are a lot less parts for electric. cheaper to make.

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

Great scooter, Micah!

[@lifehackertips]

Problem with scooters is insurance, plates and yearly property taxes in many states. All those add up to almost $100 every month. That’s a lot for something like this. Better to buy a bike and slap a electric motor and some batteries on it and pay nothing monthly but have many of the same features.

[@gabriels1163]

I agree, especially since you also need a motorcycle license which is another big hassle. My ebike is not as competent as this scooter, but its close enough and doesnt require any extra costs or hassles. While I would love one of these scooters, because of the laws surrounding scooters, they are really meant more as a rich persons toy rather than transportation for the masses.

[@BroAnarchy]

when you consider that a gas powered scooter (especially a Vespa), can easily cost thousands more and barely go 30 mph, this is actually very well priced (even if the range _kinda_ sucks)

[@independentmind85]

@@33R3X and refill in one minute

[@thermodynamics1110]

range "kinda" sucks?

[@evshrug]

I only need like 8 miles a day… so works for me.

[@karlbloss]

Does CSC have a dealer network? Who would service them if something goes wrong? I realize EVs have little maintenance, but some stuff will need need service (tires, brakes, cable adjustment, etc.).

[@singlespeed2760]

i noticed the video starts after the wiz has already been unpacked from its box/crate, maybe you can post that part of the video at a later date. thanks for doing the review. i too think it is a lot of scooter for the money.

[@a.k.7116]

He does have the unboxing one, I'm pretty sure. I've watched a few be unpacked.

[@paulholterhaus7084]

Now it is about time for a SERIOUS fun Scooter such as the new low riders from Bumblebee or Rooder.....Especially if They will UP the power to at least 5HP......Paul

[@0e-michigan]

Just wondering if you still ride this Micah. Any long term updates? Where would one get service if you don't live near CSC in California? It's compelling, but I don't want a $2500 paperweight if something minor goes wrong.

[@ThePreacherman9]

Can you please review the fly-10 electric moped? From fly e-bike :)

[@UsernameAwesomeSauce]

Theres no gasket to keep the rear compartment water tight, and zero cover or drain holes for the forward "basket". I hope you only plan to park indoors everywhere you go.

[@cooperberrysmith7701]

California designed 🤣

[@milesmccall2301]

You can drill drain holes, and throw a rain cover on the trunk.

[@0IIIIII]

You should never park a motorcycle or scooter outdoors. Indoors if possible. Otherwise you’re ruining the bike

[@a.k.7116]

Who'd ride that pretty thing in the rain?

[@maryrankin9869]

@@a.k.7116 I would. And if I could attach a carrier for my dog we both would. LOL Go figure. Live in the Okanagan

[@factopedia-facts]

You really need to review OLA SCOOTER, its 1.5K , 180 km range and 115 KM/Hr with Android screen, geo fencing , keyless start/stop/boot lock unlock, also look preety cool.

[@a.k.7116]

What is the price?

[@factopedia-facts]

@@a.k.7116 depends on your state, 1 lac for s1 and 1.3 lac for s1 pro. Its way cheaper depending on the state in which you are living.

[@no-damn-alias]

In Germany they now sell a very similar modell for 1150€/1250$ at our ATU(German equivalent to Autozone) and you don't pay anymore. oh just pick it up there. Somehow I feel tempted to buy one. Hell what can I loose?

[@beebob1279]

How about steep hills

[@lifehackertips]

I have a home built 36v 1000w scooter that flies up hills and does 22mph on flat land. This scooter is 72v so it shouldn’t have a problem with hills at all

[@DFX2KX]

@@lifehackertips yeah, that's the thing with EVs, electric motors have full torque from basically 0 RPM. You'll get up the hill. You... might do it a bit slow, but you'll get up the hill.

[@christophertrejo5385]

How many miles does it get man btw love the honesty as always

[@jaylittleton1]

Hold on there, Micah. How about telling us about that "Go Back" button on the left hand.

[@PaulHo]

Instrument cluster?

[@1motorandy]

Reverse?

[@keithengle592]

For just short fun rides, I wonder how this compares with the City Slicker

[@fernandocardenas6597]

Nice review for a nice scooter .... what type of battery does it have .. is it Lead-Acid or is it Lithium? Does the so call Free Shipping includes Florida? Any idea how much will the insurance be?= in Central Florida?

[@michaelj3385]

Lithium battery. And yes they ship to Florida for free.

[@drekex6767]

Most people in the comments don’t understand the difference between a scooter and a motorcycle. A scooter is meant for urban roads but NOT THE HIGHWAY. Under the law for most states, it is illegal to drive on highways with a scooter license because by deffinition, a scooter going at highway speeds is a motorcycle which means to opperate it, you need a motorcycle license. That’s why motorcycle classes tend to be longer as well.

[@robozstarrr8930]

nice review . . . would be helpful if you could include in the reviews where the product was designed ( US, CAD, China, etc., ), manufactured, and servicing. Cheers

[@DFX2KX]

CSC orders their scooters and bikes to their spec from China (as opposed to buying off-the-shelf offerings). As for service, I don't think they have much of a service network, at least electric vehicles are low-maintenance.

[@robozstarrr8930]

@@DFX2KX thxs, gleamed that off their web page. since most EV web sites have limited info my comment was directed to Micah as he generally is in contact with the manufactures/dealers ( w/a particular review ) thus, he MIGHT be able to obtain additional information.

[@DFX2KX]

@@robozstarrr8930 indeed, he's certainly got better contacts then I do, that's for sure. I replied just in case he missed your comment mostly. because the CSC website wasn't the greatest, last I looked at it

[@terellnelson9397]

That's amazing how that Scooter look so much like Moped

[@KalamEleil]

I like your videos but I hope you talk more about other specs like regin braking and acceleration

[@thermodynamics1110]

because other specs are not worth mentioning...like the range.

[@gregf438]

Nice looking scooter.

[@jesuisravi]

43 mph is actually not enough even in the city--unless of course you are either in the heart of the city or in a residential grid. If you, on the other hand, are using an arterial road to go from one part of the city to another, the speed limit might be 45 but everyone is always pushing 55 and sometimes beyond.

[@MrWirelesscaller]

While this would be a competitor for the 50cc market it prices itself out of it. This thing is priced higher than a 150cc, while it's attractive not to buy gas ever again the price difference is such that I'd rather purchase and own a 150cc over it. I own a Sym HD200, I'm leary of using this anywhere near any highway near a city, a jaunt outside the city is okay but the limited range of the ev wouldn't even get me outside of Dallas where I live to enjoy crusing out in the country.

[@codyfournellcsrf5164]

Do you need to register this ?

[@jesuisravi]

@@codyfournellcsrf5164 I doubt it....don't ask, don't tell.

[@codyfournellcsrf5164]

@@jesuisravi how do I order one then lol

[@a.k.7116]

@@jesuisravi 🤔 🙋‍♀️

[@tedwalker1370]

Looks pretty good. I would like to take a Wiz on the street some time. LOL

[@markjerstad4664]

Best comment!!!

[@chadslice2673]

The NGT is sexier. This one Is kind of ugly. I wish that little yellow when you reviewed could go this fast! Are you back in Florida?

[@anthonydowling3356]

NGT is twice the price .Florida i think .It sure does not look like Israel.

[@JoeyDaddario]

Hi Micah. How well does the windshield keep the wind off of your face? Thanks

[@aaronrepper7649]

Wonder if you need a motorcycle license, I did not need one with my 49cc yamaha zuma, and it ran about the same speed.

[@Electrek]

Totally depends on the state. In Florida where I tested, you do need a motorcycle license. But some states have moped laws that this might fall under.

[@eqhorse]

You do need an MC endorsement here in NH. The listed 43 MPH top speed is what moved it from moped to MC in my state. Luckily I already have an MC license

[@lifehackertips]

License isn’t the real problem. It’s yearly taxes and insurance. Sucks a bicycle costs nothing but add a battery and motor and suddenly there’s a high monthly fee

[@kidzzone7356]

i live in MIchicgan adn have a 49 cc 1988 yamaha jog so i dont need one anything above 70cc you need one for

[@joannegarrisi7533]

@@kidzzone7356 Im in MI too and just checked with my local PD. Falls under MOPED registration so no Motorcycle endorsement required to operate seperate from standard operators license

[@ajfincke]

Have you found an EV scooter with sidecar available in the US eastern seaboard??

[@madbeast15]

Concerned if water pools up in the open glovebox when it rains.

[@mikefox181]

Don't ride it in the rain nad you won't have that issue... A sprinkle no problem.. but these things are not meant to be ridden in down pours etc

[@madhavbaheti7067]

I think you should check up on ATHER scooter a made in india scooter with a mindblowing speed of 90km/hr...i recommended you to check that

[@012-bhandarepranav8]

When are we going to see CSC Motorcycles in India?

[@012-bhandarepranav8]

As price is kinda interesting and tempting.

[@grubbymanz3928]

are they making these in the us? my sense is these little boutique cheap brands are buying e scooters on alibaba, of which there are 1000s, and slapping their brand name on them and doubling the price.

[@HansCaspary_1]

Song at the end?

[@sbl17jackson37]

Not in most states. In my state North Carolina, any vehicle that can go over 30 MPH is considered a motorcycle, and would require a motorcycle license. So this bike might as well go 55 MPH, because it will still require a motorcycle license because it goes over 30 MPH. Many roads in cities and towns are 45 MPH, but people go 10 MPH faster routinely, so 55 MPH is really the minimum these bikes need to go in cities and towns. Sure this would still be a great city cruiser, but it would be too slow to keep up with traffic on 45 MPH streets, where cars are going 55 MPH. This is why the Sonders Metacycle is a game changer. It can go 80 MPH, and only cost a little over $2000 more than the CSC wiz or the City Slicker. Having that extra speed would be well worth the extra money, because it allows you to get out of dangerous situations.

[@Sakura-os4rt]

how long does the battery last and what does the charger look like

[@Sakura-os4rt]

@st do you need a driver's license to ride it

[@Davidee-14]

Are these electric scooters made in the US ? If so, where can I to buy it?

[@larrysee7306]

Dealer will ship it to you, or you can visit the store`in Azusa, CA Los Angeles area

[@liamdavis5596]

I think it looks sick

[@sanabria04]

Scooters are cool 😎

[@spookytook]

NIU is king for city scooter

[@evshrug]

Are they available in the US?

[@gregnixon1296]

Optimum weight range for the rider?

[@Simon-oq6ds]

Maybe somebody can explain to me why a 3kW hub motor scooter with a 2.1kW Hr battery only costs $2.5k when an e-bike with a 1 kW motor and 1 kW Hr battery will cost as much. What am I not understanding here? Could it be that all of those DIYers are right about e-bike companies over charging?

[@Simon-oq6ds]

Is it cheaper to manufacture a scooter? Maybe because an e-bike has to be lighter?

[@James-ee1pk]

This looks perfect for going to the gym and back. And it should be fast enough to outrun dogs in my neighborhood.

[@pickledpigknuckles6945]

Thus Far which Scooter Manufacturer has the Greatest Range?

[@mikefox181]

Zoom scooters from California.. 60 miles+ per charge..

[@vinster907311]

Do I need a special license for this?

[@sam-dn9hr]

Depends what country? Uk would need a provisional licence. Usa I think you can ride a 50cc with no licence and this bike seems to have that power so I think yes you can ride this without a licence

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@sam-dn9hr a big NO. you're wrong. each state is different, some states require a special license.

[@Bonjour-World]

How tall are you? The problem with most Chinese scooters (gas or electric) is that they are built for short people. Full grown adults (6 feet or better) just can not fit comfortably on this toy bikes.

[@HallieHerb]

50-60mph would have been better for me. Would have straight up bought it

[@jaylittleton1]

I'm afraid that to get 50-60 mph you need to look at other machines, such as Zero motorcycles. About $8000 will get you started.

[@0IIIIII]

Zero Motorcycles or BMW Mottorrad has powerful electric motorcycles equal in power to gas...except in range. Batteries need to get better

[@HallieHerb]

@@jaylittleton1 oh boy, that's quiet expensive. Probably a dumb question, do you need a driver's license for these?

[@gabriels1163]

@@HallieHerb yes, a motorcycle license

[@NadeemShaikh-zv3wv]

When launch in India 🥴🤷‍♂️?

[@sakiyehwalker7326]

I think very nice speed

[@iloiloguy]

Does it have regenerative braking?

[@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb]

Yes, and a rocket booster too!

[@Bentz99]

No license required?

[@evshrug]

Depends on where you live. You would want to check your local laws. In the US, they vary by state, here’s mine: www.dot.state.pa.us/Public/DVSPubsForms/BMV/BMV%20Fact%20Sheets/fs-momo.pdf

[@sam-dn9hr]

For just short commutes this is perfect! However my 110cc £600 Honda Vision can go nearly 200 miles on 5.5 litres of fuel! I know what I prefer :)

[@evshrug]

Wish I could find a deal like that; sometimes it feels like Americans don’t know the meaning of economical (not all of us… but yeah, so many SUVs with only a driver inside).

[@PaulHo]

Seriously considering asking my surgeon and physical therapist if this is a good or bad idea for my disabled ass.

[@tony-ce7qp]

very nice!

[@Techno_Babble]

What are you view on Ather's 450X?

[@lifehackertips]

43 mph is so close. Just get it to a real 60 mph and I’ll buy one.

[@evshrug]

Speed limits between my house and the grocery and my friends’ house range between 25-35, this would be good for me.

[@jamieturnage4574]

thats nice i want one

[@mikefox181]

Nice scooter.. but after all the fees and shipping it's over $3,000... That's alot of money for something like this.. and you have to insure it etc... $450 processing. Fee, $250 shipping fee.. $68 for paperwork bwhich should come. With no fee after all the other shit you have to pay is there financing available?

[@gauravbala]

Make video on India's ather450x scooter🛵

[@rkt81]

Is there a way you could review Ather 450X.

[@Electrek]

I’m going to try to plan an India trip later this year to do Ather 450x and several others.

[@RohitPareek-yo3vh]

Good scooter

[@rokitman5753]

Check out the NCM!!!

[@ravinaga9435]

Electric scooter super 👌🌷 future

[@badimpulses17]

I'm guessing a M1 license is required?

[@ddrhazy]

I would need a motorcycle license for my state as Nevada would classify this as a motorcycle.

[@mcciaccio]

The key switch is Yamaha .

[@gordonstearns6776]

why cant you get a 5000 miles more

[@telocities]

So why do electric bikes cost so much? 1/4 the batteries and 1/4 motor power, but bikes cost more.

[@AmaxterPlays]

Pedals and crank systems for power transfer, higher grade materials to save weight because it matters more, and more use of 3rd party components from distributors like Shimano. This however is a really cheap moped, even considering it’s not a bike!

[@irish617strong8]

Do you need a driver's license to operate it

[@evshrug]

Depends on state/city ordinances. Mine is confusing, because it doesn’t have any mention of electric vehicles, just CC engine size and “under 5 horsepower.”

[@sbl17jackson37]

It needs to go at least 55 MPH.

[@drekex6767]

Sure, you could drive one at 55mph but most likely and legally you’d need a motorcycle license since that’s highway speeds

[@triciamcintyre4947]

Nice scooter,it would disappear in one of the many potholes at the bottom of my street.If someone wants to fix the Scottish road network I'll buy one.👍🚴

[@a.k.7116]

😮 😂

[@shrikantpuranik6264]

It would become the Best seller in BHARAT, INDIA. Provided the price tag, should be 15oo rollers, road price. This can be done if , MAKE IN INDIA. MODIJIS PLI PLAN.

[@chezeface1142]

Range is way too low. Needs to be around 100 to 150 miles

[@ebikeengineer]

No longer on the website, only the more expensive and less powerful Monterey is available.

[@mikefox181]

It's on the website dummy.. i just looked at one .

[@ebikeengineer]

@@mikefox181 First time on the internet Mike? You realize web pages can (and do) go down periodically or get updated. Now imagine if you will that a month ago when I posted the page wasn't available. Strange how what was a month ago isn't neccisarily the same today huh?

[@kevindarkstar]

Seriously drum rear brake!

[@cybair9341]

Kevin - It makes sense because the rear wheel is the one that does regenerative braking. It needs much less braking power than the front wheel.

[@bobbyst-onge2881]

Tres beaux

[@caoimhin7122]

No more free shipping! Minimum of $350! If they'd go back to free shipping, that'd make it a no-brainer and they could have my money. Until then, I'm looking at bikes that burn gasoline. Just cheaper and more established, at least for now. Trust me, I'd rather go electric.

[@JSabh]

The appeal of e bikes is that one does not need a DL or to register it. That thing defeats all of that and for the price you could get a nice used motorcycle, hell for a bit more you could get a used Zero Motorcycle that does look cool and is more practical. Crap like that is why people laugh at EV's.

[@alanmott-smith9358]

Free shipping, everybody! No really. LOL

[@markj.7630]

Is that lead acid or lithium??.. oh I see it, it's lead acid.. it look like the same battery in those FLY ELECTRIC CHINESE SCOOTERS.

[@TheOnlyOneStanding8079]

Ugly is good enough for me...It would be the least stolen scooter. Lol

[@bankrollace8737]

I would not buy it. I could get and electric dort bike for that price...

[@angrydalek]

My Emove cruiser gets more miles than this

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

Lol, yeah maybe on a perfectly flat surface but too bad the Emove Cruiser is a *bumpy* ride and no comfy seat.. 👎🏼

[@thermodynamics1110]

@@christopherwalkinalloverya5824 "Lol, yeah maybe on a perfectly flat surface" no not maybe. any road surface/hills

[@christopherwalkinalloverya5824]

@@thermodynamics1110 Proof?

[@john21031]

Junk

[@jackman7286]

Corny intro

[@taysikuu1748]

This is how make America better again. little budget, freedom, unload nature too much.

[@0IIIIII]

I refuse to consider Chinese brands.

[@0IIIIII]

@Acme Inc. has nothing to do with limiting Chinese imports and avoiding shoddy quality. It is the civil rights abuses

[@prilep5]

Perfect for teenagers

[@thermodynamics1110]

cept most teenagers don't have motorcycle license.