Commander Tier List Diplomatic Immunity

[@BRA1NST0RM]

21:33 really good remark that has not been picked up before: there is stim affecting HH and ally units when hellion is destroyed

[@baltoandtogo]

You need static defense from both commanders on the ramps because of polarity. I detected more than one ghost who successfully nuked my base while standing next to my bunker because my ally was nowhere nearby to kill the ghost. Boo!

[@jkkim6928]

Do these guys know how to play Artanis? P2 Artanis can 1) take care of most trains with solar bombard 2) support ally with guardian shell plus shield overcharge 3) insta move or summon army to contended spots 4) as for DPS, tempests are massively underrated for erasing most stuff including the trains If you’re worried about tanking ground damage, just throw in cannons or zealots

[@baltoandtogo]

Agreed. He gets a lower rating than I would give him most weeks. I'm happy when my ally gives me guardian shell and shield overcharge, for sure.

[@BRA1NST0RM]

I haven't seen any of them playing p2 Artanis, while he is really good for many mutations

[@Jedrex899]

Yeah I've been pointing out P2 Artanis as a very viable option a number of times already, usually getting ignored/looked down upon by reviewers. They tend to over-focus on P3 since it's usually the best "solo" prestige. For supporting ally like here or vs some mutators like Microtransactions P2 tends to be better though. They either don't play P2 at all, or they used it a few times - severely overusing/misusing Power Field and running out of energy quickly - and judged it not worth the use.

[@baltoandtogo]

@@Jedrex899 Stixbender was always a strong advocate for Artanis when he's strong vs. a mutation week.

[@Jedrex899]

@@baltoandtogo I don't mind Artanis being placed on the lower end for most weeks. What I do mind is usually overfocusing on P3 by them, while ignoring other prestiges - especially P2.

[@prowpresser896]

After playing this with randoms for a bit I would say only A tier is Karax and others start from B at best. Yes Mengsk Tychus etc are very good, but if your ally doesnt know what they are doing, 20 lings can still destroy everything they have. Karax repair beam buys so much time against straggler enemies that even if your ally is really slow at responding to stuff, 9/10 you are still at a winnable position.

[@PastryScent]

I would say p3 karax would be by far the best. The purifier beam cooldown works out to be available for every single train wave, which also gives vision to solar lance alongside it. Similarly nova p3's nuke cooldown (with mastery) completely trivializes the map.

[@comestible6270]

base artanis is the best with randoms cause you get shield overcharge or solar bombard for each train and it keeps your allies army alive even if they are noob and your army does bonus to trains and is tanky enough to survive if your ally doesn't come help fast enough

[@chickenrice6606]

This is actually a bit unobjective, because this factor comparison requires combining two commanders for comparison. For example, swann and karax appearing together will make the whole game simpler.

[@igororeskovic4586]

P1 Karax building in the centre of the map is very strong if you play with a friend. It cuts off the waves torwards the expo/top base and hits all trains except for the bonuses which don't matter anyway. The only other point of contention is the entrance to the right base where you both put static/send units when needed. My friend is a good Karax so it was pretty fun to pull off multiple times.. He just made static in the mid and later everywhere, used topbars and chronobost.. Our easiest run was Tychus + Karax. I just ran around with Sirius and Tychus a bit where they were needed and killed stuff (mostly in the centre around his static and towards the right ramp), we both killed our trains pretty easily, I cant even remember many units/buldings dying.. Oh yeah, I had Vega and Nux on the ramps just spotting for and killing ghosts mostly.. Ofc Karax can build only on the highgrounds too instead, which also works just fine, but it's so satisfying to be in control of the mid and show polarity who's boss. :D

[@Terreneitorkun]

i hate stukov and vorazun so much vs sky comps. zeratul should be top of A by the way, with p1 he can cloack allies and buff the weak allies like stukov and abathur, vorazun mai frezze enemies but usually the high hp trains are the problem for most of the commanders. karax: do not focus on energy, you can destroy trains with but armies will blink away from lance and orbitals. the important thing is DO NOT to force your ally to defend your turrets outside the main base, not all commanders/ players can multitask and split armies to protect ur stuff

[@jkkim6928]

Void rays erase trains esp inside dark pylon

[@azraelarchangel2218]

How nonsense is when your ally start to critisize you after a won game because of your APM in a Polarity mutation?! :)

[@pelmeshkan]

I think raynor p1 is pretty nice I complete that woth stukov p3 11 lvl xD on brutal Very bulky rwynor with insane dps plus very massive stukov can very nice beat and holding waves very long before ur allie arriving

[@Redentor314]

Very surprised that the tier list only goes down to C.

[@igororeskovic4586]

It's because cooperation (always killing stuff together) is a much bigger factor than any specific comander for polarity.

[@Redentor314]

@@igororeskovic4586 Okay, fair enough.

[@愛狐璃的天秤座]

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