Cultish - Mormonism, Temple Marriage, & Life Beyond the Veil

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@ApologiaStudios
@ApologiaStudios 2 жыл бұрын
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@BCE42906
@BCE42906 2 жыл бұрын
Have you thought of doing a deep dive on Scientology?
@Travis.L
@Travis.L 2 жыл бұрын
What a blessing to hear your testimonies. Plz pray for my Mormon grandmother.
@codeman966
@codeman966 2 жыл бұрын
Your grandma is fine 🙂
@Travis.L
@Travis.L 2 жыл бұрын
@@codeman966 Deut 18 says otherwise
@gregshell8570
@gregshell8570 2 жыл бұрын
This is so wonderful to hear the difference between Mormonism and Christianity.
@inkytabithaful
@inkytabithaful 2 жыл бұрын
This interview is almost 3 hrs long and I DIDN'T want it to end! I wanted more stories! This is certainly encouraging to hear since we have Mormon neighbors that just moved in some months ago. We've become fast friends with them and my husband and I absolutely adore them. I pray SO much that they come to know the truth.
@koffehousediva
@koffehousediva 3 жыл бұрын
Listening to her tell her story is blowing my mind how much it parallels mine. I’m sitting at my desk at work trying not to cry from a sense of relief just knowing someone else has had such similar family and spiritual experiences.
@lizj3815
@lizj3815 3 жыл бұрын
It’s become almost a taboo topic, but the supernatural has been here from the start. You should check out Bride Ministries, it will teach you about the supernatural side of satanic ritual abuse survivors and their stories from a Christian perspective. Heavy stuff!
@averyhappywoman
@averyhappywoman 3 жыл бұрын
Amen. Same here Emili
@kathleenking47
@kathleenking47 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizj3815 it's hard to believe, she grew up in AL. She sounds like shes from CA
@emmaociee
@emmaociee 3 жыл бұрын
Thank y’all for keeping this episode long and not stopping them! These things need to be said 👏 what an amazing video and an incredible couple. Praise to God for their journey🙏
@gregshell8570
@gregshell8570 2 жыл бұрын
This is the second time I listened to this. It is a miracle that you two are still married and found the real GOD.
@youguyswantsomecookies
@youguyswantsomecookies 19 күн бұрын
Was sending this to a friend and saw your comment. We just celebrated 13 years of marriage. Thank you
@pams9304
@pams9304 3 жыл бұрын
Great show, learned a lot. Never even realized the length. Will be praying for Amanda. Looking forward to Part 2.
@Enoch-XIV
@Enoch-XIV 3 жыл бұрын
You should make every episode this long! I really enjoyed it. That couple have been through ALOT. Thank you for the video it was really encouraging
@mosalinda
@mosalinda 2 жыл бұрын
Tres dias! It's a life changing experience. It comes from the Crusillo Movement from the Catholic Church. Grew up Catholic, and blessed that my whole family was involved in the movement. It made them take their walk with God seriously and reading the Bible for themselves and a principle that was taught to me. Not Catholic anymore but much respect for that movement.
@camarogirl1369
@camarogirl1369 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been living in Utah for the last 18 years. I was born and raised in South Dakota and married a Presbyterian from Iowa. Living in Utah for as long as we have I see everything that is being said here. The temple worthy parents would not let their kids play with my kids because we were not Mormon. We were seen as not being worthy enough! We have some friends that are LDS, but they’re more Jack Mormon than they are Mormon. What’s crazy is we found out that they knew who we were, where we worked and how much we made when we bought our house. There was a red X on our house on the ward map because we told them that we were not interested in becoming Mormon.
@eurekahope5310
@eurekahope5310 3 жыл бұрын
Considering the tithing requirements, I wonder if they target high income people.
@alcapone1879
@alcapone1879 3 жыл бұрын
I have recently returned to the lord after so many years of emptiness and loneliness , and I wanted to thank the whole Apologia ministry it has shown me that being a REAL Christian can be amazing , I only wish and hunger to be part of a family of believers like this family , all who live within driving range of Apologia need to be perpetually great full for this family because some, like myself , do not have the option of fellowship , and must rely on living vicariously through the I pad , God bless all involved.
@theoneheloved
@theoneheloved 2 жыл бұрын
Seek a reformed church around your area, reformed baptist, PCA, OPC (OPC is more orthodox and culturally oldschool) will all be teaching pretty much everything apologia stands for.
@trenthobson2756
@trenthobson2756 2 жыл бұрын
This chick seriously just says "my papa was a 33 degree freemason and then I experienced demonic possession," and she just mentions this in passing! I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like some elaboration.
@skai1727
@skai1727 Жыл бұрын
Right!
@nametheunknown_
@nametheunknown_ 8 ай бұрын
This was very good! Conversation was compelling, you all had a great dynamic. I love your sense of humor. Praise God for this couple and bless them, may their story be an alarm clock to the hearts of sleepy Christians.
@Nomercygate
@Nomercygate 3 жыл бұрын
I gleaned so much from this episode. Thank you for sharing.May God bless you all
@Amv332
@Amv332 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a show coming up on the Freemasons ?
@sparklycupcake5445
@sparklycupcake5445 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing these podcasts! It's so great to hear how God is working. I must admit I was very convicted about how little I share the gospel to others. Thank you for letting God's message flow through you.
@douglasmcnay644
@douglasmcnay644 3 жыл бұрын
I think this could be said for the vast majority of us, including me.
@naomi4768
@naomi4768 3 жыл бұрын
This has been such an interesting episode, would love to hear another one with them. I’m so happy they have Jesus! May God continue to bless you guys!
@CA-rs8rw
@CA-rs8rw 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview! I love this couple’s dynamic!
@bobbiemauk1879
@bobbiemauk1879 2 жыл бұрын
I wish this couple had their own podcast.
@rats2themoon
@rats2themoon Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved listening to this. I think a lot of people don’t tackle morons b/c they just don’t know all the nuances. Watching Jeff Durbin talk with them leaves me feeling VERY inadequate, and I’ve studied them to some degree! I read a book some time ago (Mormonism, Mama ANd Me) and got an idea. I struggled with their blood atonement philosophy... as in two young Mormon missionaries came to me and i tools them i wasn’t interested in a religion that believed that, to which he replied they didn’t and i tools him he needed to go back and look at their doctrine. I never saw them again. But i have to admit, Mormons seem willing to put themselves out there NO MATTER WHAT and Christians fear looking like fools so they just don’t.
@dingotomtom
@dingotomtom 2 жыл бұрын
Yall are so stinkin cute!! I love the part about how u held hands on the way home
@jordantheriverman6143
@jordantheriverman6143 3 жыл бұрын
Cultish- Keep doing what you're doing. Expose sin and darkness, preach the gospel and tell of how you got out of cults. Praise King Jesus: The all consuming fire of purity and radiance.
@37view37
@37view37 3 жыл бұрын
Loved every minute. Trusted Jesus in ‘89 having been an agnostic previously. Walter Martin on radio got me interested in Mormonism as study for evangelism. Only time I ever felt I saw a dark spiritual being was shortly after purchasing an early 20th C version of BOM to have as witnessing tool for missionaries at my door. Happened as I was waking from a deep sleep - I donated that BOM to a local Ex-Mormons for Jesus group that very day (some things are better left to stronger Christians and I was still a baby Christian then). I still have dozens of publications from the Tanner’s ministry to Mormons. The American history of LDS is fascinating in itself. This video “happened” to come across my YT recommendations and I “happen” to be recovering from surgery so had spare time to view. Nice to hear the association with James White at the end. Fun couple with an interesting story and a host willing to let it be told fully. DO get a part 2 recorded!
@janehampton2866
@janehampton2866 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have one on Jehovah's Witnesses? I was a jw. I'm LCMS now.
@DipsyDoodleDaisy
@DipsyDoodleDaisy Жыл бұрын
😭😭😭 why does she keep interrupting?!? 1:35
@jamesmorgan2064
@jamesmorgan2064 3 жыл бұрын
Already hit "like " I'll watch later. (First?)
@dianmichaelis
@dianmichaelis 3 жыл бұрын
I really love this program, Brandy please take a pause and try to stop talk over talking your husband so much. Would be just that much better with that small tweek.
@ebenezercunningham9073
@ebenezercunningham9073 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe she picked that up in Arkansas. Just teasing! But, seriously, Arkansas people..
@mollyfrazier7928
@mollyfrazier7928 3 жыл бұрын
Interested in which church in Vacaville these 2 went to. Im from the area and could think of a cew they could be mentioning.
@meganlee7972
@meganlee7972 2 жыл бұрын
My best friends family was all Mormon, I loved them! They were the most kind people, had me as their babysitter, invited me over for dinner all the time, even let me stay with them when I was dealing woth family things and being a wild child. I honestly have never had a negative experience with them or anyone from their temple. Ane they never tried to preach to me, but would gladly answer my questions I had abouttheir religious beliefs. Erick, I love and miss you so much!
@fraukeschmidt8364
@fraukeschmidt8364 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure there is good, loving and kind people in just about every cult. I am glad you had this experience.
@justkenzie
@justkenzie Жыл бұрын
@23:00 once a person has crossed the line into choking someone, there is a TERRIFYINGLY HIGH CHANCE they will eventually go further and kill.
@kaitlinardeeser3362
@kaitlinardeeser3362 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen for another 3 hours! I relate to so much of what they have said! I grew up Mormon and experienced much of what they said. Praise God that he rescues people from false teaching!
@davidortega357
@davidortega357 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up Apostolic Oneness it's kinda cultist even tho I had friends that were RCC and baptist, Mormon, trinitarians, I grew up listening to billy graham , oral Roberts, Dr venom magee, Leroy Jenkins, Robert tilton, pTL they called us Jesus only holy rollers, I'm still Apostolic Acts 2 38 one way we grew up with TV went swimming the beach Redondo beach Calif guy Chicano most Mexican are RCC
@Jpow915
@Jpow915 Жыл бұрын
“She’s never leaving” is completely uncalled for. Where is your faith?
@caramonroe3231
@caramonroe3231 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t going to comment but I do want to say that not all Chaplains who serve are “not knowledgeable about God’s word.” My dad served as a chaplain and family life counselor for 20 years and he would challenge his soldiers to align their lives with Jesus and God’s Word. I feel like this is a generalization that needs to be addressed. I agree that there are some that are just serving and following whatever they are told but that is not the case everywhere.
@BeauKennedy2013
@BeauKennedy2013 3 жыл бұрын
1:48:57 I think there may have been an editing issue here. Might wanna check it out 😬 P.S. Praise God for their testimony of God's sovereign grace.
@LocalLender775
@LocalLender775 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@nicoleschmidt2225
@nicoleschmidt2225 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think they missed that! Oops.
@jaz6564
@jaz6564 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this!
@Tatersthezebra88
@Tatersthezebra88 3 жыл бұрын
I am just going to go out on a limb here and ask.... have y'all ever heard of a neurological condition called narcolepsy? It's a neurological sleep/wake cycle disorder that results in a lot of the type of things y'all attribute to demonic activity. A few years after I became a Christian my narcolepsy, that I have had since childhood, got worse. I literally have had the exact same dream of demons coming out of a wall to get me. I have had hypogogic hallucinations of demons taunting me by my bedside. (They were cartoon demons though so it was easier to tell this was just a nightmare. ) I have had sleep paralysis countless times and auditory hallucinations (people yelling, doors slamming, even a voice whispering to me) almost every night unless I turn on a sound machine. However, I also have a medical condition that causes me to slip into and out of REM inappropriately resulting in various parasomnias. I have taken various sleep studies and an EEG that shows my brain does not cycle through sleep correctly, which causes my parasomnias. I just worry there are fellow saints out there mistaking real tangible medical events as demonic activity who should probably see a sleep specialist (preferably neurological sleep specialist). It kind of reminds me how people used to mistake those who had seizures as being possessed with demons. My concern is that there are saints out there that believe they are demonically possessed and think God has left them when He has not left them, they are just chronically ill and probably need to change up their sleep routine. I believe in demons and demon possession but I also believe narcolepsy is mistaken for demonic activity way too often.
@jordantheriverman6143
@jordantheriverman6143 3 жыл бұрын
Its not always either/or when we are talking of specific illness and demonic activity. Its a complex area and i believe there can be overlap. Over spiritualizing and reducing complex issues to naturalistic explanations can fail as its a tough balance for wisdom.
@Tatersthezebra88
@Tatersthezebra88 3 жыл бұрын
@@jordantheriverman6143 We don't tell dementia patients they are possessed. We don't tell epileptics they are possessed. We don't tell people with rapid vision loss that their hallucinations make them possessed. Then why is it okay when people are clearly experiencing something like sleep paralysis or parasomnias that they are possessed? I will be the first to tell you that we are an overly pyschologized society. We are people who have both a body and a soul. Our bodies are broken in surprising ways and to ignore neurological infirmities that can be physically observed through a series of lab tests and call it demonic is just as harmful as saying someone who is addicted to hard-core drugs aren't in sin because they're an "addict." I think we need to be careful not to wound the consciences of Christians that do not have a clear theological understanding of physical infirmities vs. demonic possession. I have never been demonically possessed, but I have been afflicted by frightening implications of a neurological disease. Either way the solution is to come to Christ and fall heavily in His arms. (And by that I mean the gospel) The problem is if you teach "you cannot be christian and possessed" then share all these stories of people having parasomnias and call it possession, there will be weaker brothers and sisters that will draw the conclusion, "I must still not be saved because I still have this parasomnia and it isn't going away." We have effectively taught them to trust in their experiences and not in the blood of Christ and the Word of God.
@ebenezercunningham9073
@ebenezercunningham9073 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. That sounds rough.
@jadywolf007
@jadywolf007 2 жыл бұрын
that was an a amazing podcast 👏
@mikan12
@mikan12 3 жыл бұрын
It was interesting to hear what AJ had to say when she would hold herself back from interrupting constantly.
@dianmichaelis
@dianmichaelis 3 жыл бұрын
Just read this after making the same comment. Great topic but that part is super irritating.
@kristinec212
@kristinec212 3 жыл бұрын
Its bc he's leaving out details and women think its important to add in the details 🤣
@dianmichaelis
@dianmichaelis 3 жыл бұрын
@@kristinec212 Its because she's used to running over him and being disrespectful.
@youguyswantsomecookies
@youguyswantsomecookies 3 жыл бұрын
@@dianmichaelis Hi Dian, I reflected over your and Siobhan's comments when you originally made them and spent time in the Word and understanding how I could be a better wife to my husband. There were things my husband asked me to remind him of during this episode to keep it short; however, I did see where the back and forth was cut short by me. I do not believe that you have any place to publicly say that I make a habit of disrespecting my husband. I introduced myself in the video and if you had such issue and concern with the way I spoke in the video, you should come to me privately as outlined in Matthew 18. I spent a good two weeks in prayer over your original comments and repented to my husband for any feelings he may have secretly had over whether I interrupted him or not, but you will not make public assumptions about our marriage. Thank you.
@christielane3975
@christielane3975 2 жыл бұрын
@@youguyswantsomecookies hi Brandy, if it was mentioned in the podcast I didn’t catch it, but what is the name of the church you went to in Pooler? The Karate church. I live in Guyton, just next to Pooler and have left the Mormon church myself about a year ago. For a while I thought I would just become Atheist but I’ve had very strong emotions within me telling me to turn to God. Which is how I ended up on KZbin watching all of these Apologia videos.
@yeshalloween
@yeshalloween 2 жыл бұрын
K, my Mormon self is sitting down to listen. I’m a direct descendant of Hyrum Smith, Joseph Smith’s brother, and several Mormon “ prophets”.
@SerenityNow22
@SerenityNow22 Жыл бұрын
We all have shady pasts somewhere down the line. Are you a Christian now?
@jordantheriverman6143
@jordantheriverman6143 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding what they talk of around 30 min mark: Im turning thirty in a cpl weeks, when i was like 10 the mormons from the local temple would rake up the leaves on our yard etc. So its not new. THis is in perth, West Australia.
@adelalax3553
@adelalax3553 3 жыл бұрын
I pray for all the Mormons that see and listen to this video, to realize that Jesus Christ is Lord alone there's no other God before or after Him and to understand that you "will not" become one god yourself, God doesn't need another gods, He wants you to trust, repent and follow Him. Love you all,,, see y'all in heaven!!
@payton335
@payton335 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that they went to canyon ridge in LV! My family and I went there as I grew up and we fell away because we had the same experiences and they wouldn’t teach the TRUE word. Just crazy to think how large that church is and how many people stick with it
@jeffschank7329
@jeffschank7329 2 жыл бұрын
Left the Mormon church in 1991..... after a year. I'm living proof of: "You can leave the Mormon church, but you can't leave it alone!" Lots of pain and guilt Horrible experience
@nametheunknown_
@nametheunknown_ 8 ай бұрын
1:28:00 "Imagine being a person who doesnt have the Spirit of God that has to manifest all the fruits of the Spirit." Heartbreaking...Lord lift our LDS neighbors out of their bondage.
@Only1Christ
@Only1Christ 3 жыл бұрын
If anyone is willing/able to help me, please do. I have been blessed to be given the opportunity to have discourse with a Mormon missionary. He has now said he believe I just want to prove Mormonism wrong and nothing more, because I illustrated that if you get Jesus wrong, you get the Spirit wrong and then the gospel. I laid out the gospel in the best terms I can showing it is not of works, but that Mormonism want to add works to the completed work or Lord Jesus. I fear I may only have one last message he will read and then block me. What would you say if you have only one message to send a Mormon in the hopes to save a soul?
@payton335
@payton335 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I pray this all worked out !!
@spitfireap77
@spitfireap77 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting interview. Lot of good information. Would be much better if she would stop interrupting her husband so much.
@jasonwolfe7986
@jasonwolfe7986 2 жыл бұрын
Swear if I close my eyes and listen this is my wife and I’s story.
@elkellenhabla
@elkellenhabla 3 жыл бұрын
“Oakland!” 😂😂 Great views from that temple
@MrMfloor
@MrMfloor 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of reminds me of a fraternity I was in in College. Rituals, know the founding fathers, secrets, tribalism
@dingotomtom
@dingotomtom 2 жыл бұрын
How could someone "verify your salvation"? Only the Lord knows that persons heart. I would like someone to explain that. I'm loving this video by the way. Thanks so much for taking the time to talk about this stuff. It's so important
@ReformedSooner24
@ReformedSooner24 Жыл бұрын
Basically just a simple examination of how a person is living and what their fruits are. You’re not trying to figure out definitively if someone is saved, what she was saying was that they didn’t even bother to investigate to do anything remotely like a background/lifestyle check to weed out the obvious false convert (her) from being in a position of ministry.
@MsSajenkins
@MsSajenkins 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, part 2!
@darthvadersmom1192
@darthvadersmom1192 3 жыл бұрын
what a sweet couple!!!
@jjjjjjjjj323
@jjjjjjjjj323 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting to make more money for your channel!! Cheers
@theconstitutionalist5617
@theconstitutionalist5617 3 жыл бұрын
I was born in the 94 and I grew up watching the feature family films 😂 I forgot all about those
@MetroSFC
@MetroSFC 3 жыл бұрын
Served in Awana for over 20 years and there is nothing in the books where a child has to be baptized.
@MetroSFC
@MetroSFC 3 жыл бұрын
@@b23456 my comment is directed at the comment made that in the Awana books there is a section that requires baptism. There not a section that requires baptism.
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 3 жыл бұрын
She would have been in AWANAS closer to 30 years ago so it may have been in there then. This last year the AWANAS curriculum completely changed so it wouldn’t be surprising if that had happened in the past. Also it might have just been a part of that particular church and not AWANAs. The church I grew up in (not SBC mind you) was that way. In 7th grade you got baptized (if you weren’t already) and officially joined the church.
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 3 жыл бұрын
@@b23456 AWANAS is the Southern Baptist Convention Wednesday night children’s ministry. It’s like Sunday School/Kid’s church but on Wednesday night.
@MetroSFC
@MetroSFC 3 жыл бұрын
@@TGuard00014 still serving and still nothing requiring baptism. It has to be a local church requirement.
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetroSFC I know that they do not currently require baptism but the curriculum went through a huge shift. My point is that such a shift has probably also happened in the past. It’s entirely possible she was in AWANAS before you were involved and at that time it was a requirement. I mean it started in 1941 so the experience and curriculum have no doubt changed greatly over the decades.
@jessicaottis6127
@jessicaottis6127 3 жыл бұрын
58:21 I totally understand you! Darkness is real. Praise God that Christ is greater than all of that. 😊
@wiltedblonde
@wiltedblonde 2 жыл бұрын
I think I went to the same church in Vacaville as they did! The Mission church in Vacaville is connected with Bethel. 🙄
@JamesW225
@JamesW225 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...I wouldn't have imagined this
@scafatiguitars6894
@scafatiguitars6894 3 жыл бұрын
I love cultish, this episode was difficult to listen to because she interrupted him constantly.
@VM-123
@VM-123 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed!
@SerenityNow22
@SerenityNow22 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to marriage 🤪
@scafatiguitars6894
@scafatiguitars6894 Жыл бұрын
@@SerenityNow22 I’ve been married for 12 years, I can relate. 😉
@SaraSmilesandCreates
@SaraSmilesandCreates 3 жыл бұрын
From Friends comments, Mormons don’t get to choose their ward?
@youguyswantsomecookies
@youguyswantsomecookies 3 жыл бұрын
Great question. Members are assigned by their address, and it would be taboo to attend another ward as tithing money is directed to the ward you attend.
@azurephoenix9546
@azurephoenix9546 3 жыл бұрын
nope, you go where you're told to. according to your location. a bit like public school.
@RandallHodge
@RandallHodge Жыл бұрын
That’s one of the first surprises for the new convert.
@travisbodine8777
@travisbodine8777 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the exact same teaching about swimming and missions
@steveangell1072
@steveangell1072 3 жыл бұрын
It's true on my mission we were not allowed to swim.
@FromJosephtoJesus
@FromJosephtoJesus 3 жыл бұрын
Correct.
@doomerquiet1909
@doomerquiet1909 2 жыл бұрын
Love these guys and what they do! Stop interrupting your guests as they are stop speaking, just let them speak please 😂😤
@fraukeschmidt8364
@fraukeschmidt8364 Жыл бұрын
The guests were interrupting each other most of the time, especially she him. Still a good interview, though.
@doomerquiet1909
@doomerquiet1909 Жыл бұрын
@@fraukeschmidt8364 i agree! I debate whether to leave criticism in the comments if i ever to have some to offer, because i love these christian ministries. So i try to preface with “hey i’m on y’all’s side and love what you’re doing!” Or something to that effect.
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 3 жыл бұрын
What's offensive about being told you should be at home having children??
@Addie3107
@Addie3107 3 жыл бұрын
Are you Mormon?
@Mik-ha-El
@Mik-ha-El 3 жыл бұрын
Yea. Sounds like a good thing to me too.
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 3 жыл бұрын
For one thing if you’ve been trying to have children and can’t it’s a dagger right into the softest part of your heart. If you and your partner are having intimacy issues it’s also extremely painful. If you have been called by God to do something other than that it could be offensive to be told instead you should be at home. You might be in a position where you want to be at home having kids but cannot for a variety of reasons so having someone tell you that you should be doing what you most want to do but can’t really sucks.
@roberttalbot1658
@roberttalbot1658 2 жыл бұрын
The more deeply that youexamine the true facts about Mormon doctrine "scriptures", and weird non biblical beliefs, you will become convinced, beyond all doubt, that Mormonism is a cult, not really just a sect of true Christianity.
@scammertrolling4562
@scammertrolling4562 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, practicing LDS guy here.... Interesting discussion. A lot of this was, in my opinion, typical mainstream christianity portrayal of LDS people/church. A few things right, a few things distorted, and a few things that are just out and out false. I did appreciate a lot of the points made about changes that should be made in culture. Spot on, IMO. I will also add some points for having someone come up with a new critique, that being that LDS parents tend to allow their kids to watch whatever they want as long as they are the age recommended. hahaha. I mean, its been almost 200 years since someone had a new criticism of the lds church that stuck, so kudos?
@Addie3107
@Addie3107 3 жыл бұрын
What kids watch was your main take away here? Could you give a specific example of something you think was distorted from their account?
@caityw2524
@caityw2524 3 жыл бұрын
Please, explain more. I don't know which things you are talking about, so it's hard to make sense of your comment. I am curious to know what your thoughts were. Thank you!
@sitapohiva1862
@sitapohiva1862 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Oakland, too, SO I REP MY TOWN HARD LOL.
@nathanelder8253
@nathanelder8253 3 жыл бұрын
The LDS church never had pamphlets discussing Kolob.
@robmullin1128
@robmullin1128 3 жыл бұрын
The Butter Cream Gang woot woot!!!! I grew up in a quasi Christian home and my siblings and I were only allowed to watch Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman on Friday evenings and Saturday morning cartoons,that was the extent of television for us. My experience with the LDS church was much like Brandy’s. I joined when I was 21 in 2004 shortly after getting out of the Air Force(I was Security Forces). When I was Baptised it was like “well you’re converted now so byeeee”. It was probably a good thing they left me to my own devices bc it caused me to leave eventually. I was saved when I was a around 11 years old so I joined as a saved person,I was just in a weird place back then. So after leaving I returned to building my relationship with Christ.
@TGuard00014
@TGuard00014 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Quinn Medicine Woman and Walker Texas Ranger were the height of entertainment at our house. Definitely watched the Buttercream Gang, I think it had a crappy sequel too.
@janisbentley1026
@janisbentley1026 3 жыл бұрын
I wish she would stop interrupting. She won't let him talk.
@andreatimmers1720
@andreatimmers1720 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting however the wife is so loud and just took over the show
@karapuckett1440
@karapuckett1440 Жыл бұрын
I have noticed that LDS kids watch a lot of horror shows vampires, witches and such that many Christians wouldn't let their kids watch.
@lizj3815
@lizj3815 3 жыл бұрын
Respectfully, sister, you interrupt your hubby way too much..
@youguyswantsomecookies
@youguyswantsomecookies 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out to me. I have repented to my husband over this and have been in deep prayer. ❤️
@lizj3815
@lizj3815 3 жыл бұрын
@@youguyswantsomecookies praise God, sister.
@readyreckoner1592
@readyreckoner1592 2 жыл бұрын
Good on you. God bless you.
@stevenfortier6436
@stevenfortier6436 Жыл бұрын
​@Brandy Sullivan so cool so see people like you who are willing to hear and actually not get so offended and butt hurt from criticism. Good on ya!
@Kunoichi139
@Kunoichi139 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad she took it well, but it's understandable to do so when you have a certain personality and you're excited about the conversation you're having ❤
@Gingershnek
@Gingershnek 2 жыл бұрын
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@Gingershnek
@Gingershnek 2 жыл бұрын
56:45
@Gingershnek
@Gingershnek 2 жыл бұрын
2:22:30
@sherrysullivan9418
@sherrysullivan9418 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel Packer, whats your thoughts during this portion on the interview?
@janehampton2866
@janehampton2866 3 жыл бұрын
I found the JW videos . Thanks.
@Deenutt_DesertEaglez
@Deenutt_DesertEaglez Жыл бұрын
Allah = all powers in Hebrew.. but he can’t see through water .. god would drown his servants?? What???
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 3 жыл бұрын
If your grandpa was freemason, is he resting in peace?
@raven-chan2071
@raven-chan2071 3 жыл бұрын
nah lol nah
@readyreckoner1592
@readyreckoner1592 2 жыл бұрын
Marine spirits.
@bogoney
@bogoney 3 жыл бұрын
You have to wear your armor. Going swimming you would need to take it off . Mind control . You can’t drink coffee but you can drink coke .
@steveangell1072
@steveangell1072 3 жыл бұрын
It was not that. You could not even walk in clothing into the water. Satan controls the water was the reason given. The coffee and tea is nuts. In 1921 major changes in the belief of the Word of Wisdom was made. Beer was common back then. No longer OK. Beer is actually said to drink in the Word of Wisdom. The only barley drink then in existence. No reason was ever given on Coffee and Tea. It was not hot drinks those had larger amounts of alcohol in them.
@bogoney
@bogoney 3 жыл бұрын
@@steveangell1072 No point
@steveangell1072
@steveangell1072 3 жыл бұрын
@@bogoney My oldest son just married a Christian more than a year after divorcing his Mormon wife. She wants to make him Christian and he wants to make her a Mormon. So far they get along great and she is a much better woman than his first wife he married at age 18. No way she will ever become a Mormon. Marriage is great wish you the best.
@mapache69.
@mapache69. Жыл бұрын
I like how cults are referring to other cults as “cults”, while thinking of their own as being “Perfectly fine”
@Crustapher
@Crustapher 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your shows. But in one breath you praised your grandfather who was a mason and made one of the most ignorant comments about marriage I think I have ever heard.
@IntrovertedArteest
@IntrovertedArteest 3 жыл бұрын
Try so hard to like this show, they have such great information sometimes, just wish they wouldn’t bash Pentecostals so much! I grew up in an independent Pentecostal cult and finally woke up and escaped. However, not all Pentecostal’s are Bethel/legalistic, crazy, cultish etc. Jeez The Apologia folks occasionally come off as judgmental Pharisee’s if I’m being 💯.
@CloudChicken
@CloudChicken 3 жыл бұрын
this^^^^
@eurekahope5310
@eurekahope5310 3 жыл бұрын
I am reformed but know a few wonderful brothers and sisters who attend Assemblies of God churches. If you are a continualist who always tests everything against Scripture, does not use spirit gifts as evidence of salvation or proof of being a better Christian, understand that God uses suffering and trials in His ultimate, perfect plan, and adheres to the basic tenants of the faith, I consider you my brother or sister. You must see, however, that the posture of believing that God continues His revelation removes the guard rails that belief in perfect, complete revelation in Scripture allows. The danger is that every man (or woman) becomes his or her own Scripture. What happens when two believers hear contradictory messages from "God?" This belief is subjective and is particularly attractive for the Joyce Meyer's and Benny Jinn's of this world who tell people that God gives them messages. If you are a continualist and cannot cite an exact contradiction, you must either believe or recognize that all these, "God told me" messages are very subjective. That said, I hope you understand that any push back is love for Scripture and love for Christ's bride. God's Word must always be our standard.
@IntrovertedArteest
@IntrovertedArteest 3 жыл бұрын
@@eurekahope5310 Amen sis! I agree with most everything you said. Left crazy, legalistic, narcissistic dictatorship Pentecostalism and went to AOG and I can testify to the fact that as for me and my house we are BIBLE based believers.
@celebrationstate
@celebrationstate 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! So much good information, but you just have to weed out their bias.
@davidortega357
@davidortega357 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Apostolic Pentecostal we don't mess withe Rattlesnakes or drink cyanide koolaid nor smoke pot we been set free to live for God we are not Charismatic like Bethel church Todd Bentley crazy laughing zit trippers we have genuine holy ghost power pack services we fallow the bible book of Acts Acts 2 38 Luke 24 47 preach the true gospel Gal 1:9 the true gospel is found in the word of god
@tinabutler6723
@tinabutler6723 2 жыл бұрын
My best friend growing up was Mormon. I could go to church with her but they wouldn’t let her come with me. Definitely NO caffeine, we care sweet tea drinkers so milk with spaghetti was so gross.
@lizj3815
@lizj3815 3 жыл бұрын
Demons CAN taunt Christians. Remember Job?? God ALLOWED that taunting and torture from Satan…
@peterd2587
@peterd2587 3 жыл бұрын
Manmade religion creates that joiner attitude, looking down on others..,
@MansterBear
@MansterBear 3 жыл бұрын
Lol well no one edited it out…
@nicoledickson7827
@nicoledickson7827 2 жыл бұрын
Brandy seems to be making a lot of assumptions. She couldn't manage a marriage, she was miserable in church, she was rebellious and doing drugs; therefore it must be mormonism that was the problem. Mormons can have happy marriages, mormons can enjoy church, mormons can live drug free. Another thing I noticed is she took joking jabs at her husband, would cut him off when he spoke, as just her go-to mode of being. "Everyone fights before they are sealed", since when? Didn't happen with me. I think the problem is with her, not where she happened to be going to church. Half of the stuff coming out of their mouths were either projection or a misunderstanding basic doctrine. If they want to interview exmormons, there are troves of better candidates that could at least give an honest assessment of the LDS church. This lady is off her rocker.
@jeremiah6462
@jeremiah6462 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously this is a waste of an episode. Everything this guy is talking about is anecdotal personal experience. What is the point? Any religion or cult can sit someone in this chair and tell first hand accounts of horror stories of their religion. Rather than talking about the reputation of his group of friends, or what he experienced at summer camp, how about something useful like the tenants or catechism of Mormonism?
@simplenaturevids
@simplenaturevids 3 жыл бұрын
JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR YOUR SINS WAS BURIED ROSE AGAIN ON THE THIRD DAY WAS SEEN ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN AND WILL SOON RETURN (We all broke God’s law, the Ten Commandments, Jesus paid our fine. He was pierced for our iniquities, paying the debt of our sins. Then He rose on the third day, conquering the grave and defeating death. He was seen by hundreds, then ascended into heaven- from where He will return. 1 Corinthians 15:1-5, Romans 3:20, John 19:28-30, Matthew 28:1-7, Revelation 22:20-21)
@googlebeaglie
@googlebeaglie 3 жыл бұрын
A bit off topic, but why do I constantly hear millennials say “ ‘ek’ speciallyI”? I’ve heard it a number of times with hosts (and guests) on this channel and it’s highly annoying.🙃
@HaleStorm49
@HaleStorm49 3 жыл бұрын
@9:20 This is something you tell a closed minded person who is harassing you. These arent people that understand Temple covenants, or Gods priesthood, or the restoration of the 10 tribes, or the prophecies yet to be fulfilled as the kingdom Daniel saw (that shall never be destroyed) have to be put into motion by an organization guided by Christ himself. What do you tell a person who has no knowledge of these things but has been brainwashed and mind controlled into thinking their lack of knowledge of the "mysteries of God" somehow justifies the way they look at other believers in Christ? There is almost nothing you can say. All you can do is know that all of these misguided efforts and well meaning people are not doing or saying anything new. The tinkling cymbals will all fade into obscurity as the Lords restored Gospel spreads around the globe to every nation, kindred, and tongue. What does a street corner sectarian church have to offer a temple worthy family with the Priesthood of God in their home? Jehovah allowed Elijah called down fire from the Sky - Christ now allows his authorized ministers to build his kingdom brick by brick preparing the Earth for His return. .. But let's talk about scout camp.
@EndtimesRuponUs
@EndtimesRuponUs Жыл бұрын
No they actually dont want you swimming because they dont want you to think about what is under the swimsuit. And that's the truth. Ex many generation mormon
@jesuslives316
@jesuslives316 3 жыл бұрын
Y'all should do a video about someone escaping the cult of Calvinism.
@youguyswantsomecookies
@youguyswantsomecookies 3 жыл бұрын
When you make such claims, you should back it up with evidence in your first declaration.
@elkellenhabla
@elkellenhabla 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, Jenna. Lol. Love ya though (in Christ)
@matthewronsson
@matthewronsson 3 жыл бұрын
@@youguyswantsomecookies That's a defensive response isn't it? It seems to have touched a nerve. She merely made a request to the hosts of this channel on a religious sect. Feel free to back up your rebuttal on her premise.
@Crustapher
@Crustapher 3 жыл бұрын
You realize they are calvanist right. Not sure if you were making a joke.
@elkellenhabla
@elkellenhabla 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewronsson lol she called Calvinism a cult. Not what I would consider the most charitable language.
@mcdonalddrewseth8421
@mcdonalddrewseth8421 3 жыл бұрын
Probably a good idea that he didn't watch all that trash growing up.
@blaziustheblaze9935
@blaziustheblaze9935 3 жыл бұрын
Still waiting for Durbin to apologize to the Church for his cursing and filthy language.
@azurephoenix9546
@azurephoenix9546 3 жыл бұрын
what does that have to do with anything? who cares if he doesn't use nice language. Read the Bible sometime, Jesus wasn't exactly going around handing out warm fuzzies.
@alison7707
@alison7707 3 жыл бұрын
Never did. How do you "act" rightous and lie, while looking into the mirror?
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023
@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 3 жыл бұрын
This is hard to watch
@jordantheriverman6143
@jordantheriverman6143 3 жыл бұрын
You dont have many pleasant things to say on this thread do you? How bout you praise Christ for saving them?
@dudeduderinoduderino9689
@dudeduderinoduderino9689 2 жыл бұрын
So now your out of the cult, what has this done for you? Do YOU not confess Christ. Did YOU not confess Joseph as a prophet of God? Did YOU not get a revelation from God that the book of Mormon is true? What has changed? Did YOU put all your trust in the arm of flesh and this has let you down? So, being out of this cult as you state, what has this done for you? ----> There is so much to ask of you but instead I ask you to ask God to give you peace in your heart....remember this of the parable of the wheat and tares?
@grayman7208
@grayman7208 2 жыл бұрын
is it cultish behavior that all apologia studios men have beards and tattoos ? just wonderin'
@zz7007
@zz7007 3 жыл бұрын
Too slow
@XGMC921
@XGMC921 3 жыл бұрын
She said "My next tattoo"? You still ain't saved.
@SerenityNow22
@SerenityNow22 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure you’re saved? You’re adding to God’s law.
@XGMC921
@XGMC921 Жыл бұрын
@@SerenityNow22 Leviticus 19:28 “You shall not make gashes in your flesh for the dead, or incise any marks on yourselves.” in other translation it says “Do not cut your bodies for the dead or put tattoo marks on yourselves. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:28). do not practice pagan practices
@SerenityNow22
@SerenityNow22 Жыл бұрын
@@XGMC921 do you wear mixed fabrics? We’re not under the ceremonial law.
@XGMC921
@XGMC921 Жыл бұрын
@@SerenityNow22 your body is God's temple would you go spray paint a church? Jesus is the teacher did he get tattoos? Did God make a mistake did he make you perfect?
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