Cupra Leon review | looks like a hot hatch but is it one?

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[@davidmehlhorn726]

Plus points.....its not a SUV/crossover, it looks great, its a roomy car for family man who likes something sporty. Cons........price, price and price. Why on earth pay €5,000 over a Leon? Nope, that is beyond silly. As for infotainment systems, there is no reason, absolutely no reason why something as vital as climate control should be in an infotainment system. For God's sake car manufacturers, keep climate control separate and adjustable by dials that can be used without having to take the driver's eyes off the road and fiddling through stupid menus on an infotainment system.

[@davidkinsella]

I'd like to know if they're exactly like for like spec to actually be €5k different. Same chassis underneath but I'd be surprised if the Leon FR was €5k less with all the same options.

[@enricogiust]

Well, if you get any of the 2.0 TSI or any version above the base 1.5, the rear suspension is a multilink. That should be bore in mind too

[@iknownothing495]

Been renting a Cupra Leon for a few weeks now, and I really like it a lot. There's just one problem: they integrated too much stuff into the entertainment system. I prefer physical buttons for A/C for example;

[@NobbyOnCars]

Yeah there’s a lot going on behind that big screen alright.

[@AlanHiggins009]

I absolutely love my Formentor!

[@jayb1412]

Just ordered the estate VZ2 hybrid as a company car. Test drove it along with polestar 2, tesla model y, cupra formentor V1, Hyundi tuson hybrid, ioniq 5 and the Skoda Enyaq. So plenty of choice. Ultimately picked the leon as it had a load of extras and was just incredibly nice to drive and comfortable. Looks and feels sporty and a huge boot with the estate (needed for work). The screen can be a bit awkward to use, but 99% i put the ac to 20 auto and never change it. I dont know why you would keep adjusting it. No issue with it crashing, can lag sometimes when jist turned on, but this is all cars unfortunately.

[@asacleverley6954]

I recently received delivery of the Leon VZ1 (no fake exaust) and i absolutely love it! There has been a fare few issues with the software but seat have looked after me providing courtesy car to update software. Some very unique features on the infotainment, highly recommend if your thinking about buying one.

[@asacleverley6954]

Also to note, the car in comfort vs Cupra mode is night and day!

[@Liathroma]

I looked at a cupra 1.5 etsi in a dealer and the battery for the mild hybrid is under the drivers seat. I see here it is in the boot.

[@ryanhall8304]

This or the golf black edition 1.5? Im really stuck for choice.

[@stevensmith8454]

Well you could have a dash like the older Ford Focus absolutely full of buttons for everything ,and live in the the 90's I'll go for the modern look thanks

[@rodo2669]

The day they know how to touch the icon on a screen, I hope you remember how to do it on your cell phone.

[@colm112]

8:12 why is the horn like that

[@colinrenfrew48]

Cupra is fast becoming the new Alfa Romeo. Full marks for this car NOT being an suv.

[@pugpete1]

Your comment is a crime against car enthusiasts. Cupra is not even close to becoming the next Alfa Romeo. Alfa was about beauty and soul (at almost any cost). seat/cupra are all about doing something different/edgey and new with the design purely to make £. They won't be considered beautiful cars in 10, 25, 50 years to come. Its like saying the spice girls are the new Beatles. One group was genius in their art and 60 years+ later they are still recognised as one of the largest influences in music. The other was an average (at best) group of girls who were marketed well at the right time. The similarities end at being in the same industry, in both cases.

[@MOSSFEEN]

We have a 2015 Leon estate model which I think is still fresh & Modern looking but Seat / Cupra have lost it with this Update The dash layout is Brutal That screen would do my head in I couldnt live with it Its the same as the Golf / Octavia Next car will be a Passat

[@ThePetrolhead94]

As somebody who's had a Passat with all the trimmings and now driving a Formentor, only the space is the difference to be honest Ride in the Passat is a little better but the Formentor drives so much better not as floaty and rolly Polly Don't believe everything you read about the infotainment, it works fine might crash the odd time but boots up no issue after that much better than my old Kia EV6

[@carlossantana7763]

I just bought it and love it

[@chrisminakoufidis6245]

It could worth the extra 5k only by getting a multilink rear suspension and liquid (not dry) DCT. So not. Get a regular Leon or a Formentor...

[@martins8587]

My thoughts. I bought this model just before Christmas. No hybrid/electric, as they really aren't green if you research the science. A couple of observations. 1. In terms of depreciation, I reckon that Cupra will hold its value much better than the Seat; particularly when Seat cease to exist.... this year? 2. I bought the manual transmission. Having played with my new toy, in retrospect , I think this was a mistake. The adaptive cruise control is an awesome feature BUT it's a bit of a fail approaching red lights. Automatically draws you to a halt, but you need to work the clutch and keep changing gear. In my mind this makes it unusable in this situation. Great on motorways though. 3. Seriously complicated repurposed tablet on the dashboard and I'm very tech savvy. 4. Having been stitched up in my last vehicle, I insisted on a space saver spare instead of a canister of foam. Far greener as you can fix the tyre as well as the fact that half the time, the foam doesn't even work properly. In summary, I love my Cupra Leon!

[@NobbyOnCars]

Agree with you on the screen, it’s not the most user friendly. ACC isn’t really designed for manual cars in heavy traffic.

[@SeanehKelleh]

Just to point out, you can't get the Seat Leon with a 1.5L engine anymore, the car you're qouting is a 1.0 TSi with 110 bhp. You can get a 2L TDi but that's 32k and only 110bhp too.

[@NobbyOnCars]

You can alright. It’s mid spec version upwards and it’s still cheaper than the Cupra.

[@sixty94lyf]

I got a 1.5 etsi 2021 Seat Leon 150 bhp

[@AllanFarrell]

The interior looks like what the mk8.5 golf interior will revert to. Looks like a focus from the side

[@garethtalbot8950]

Nice looking car alright, but never worth that money. Seat Leon SE plus better all round car in my opinion. I drove that 1.5 tsi DSG in VW T-Roc recently and there is a lag when you put foot down. Not a good time to change car or buy new with prices as they are. Interest rates are nuts. Also some rumbling in car market at moment and prices may start to pull back. I've been watching cars on forecourts for between 8-12 weeks not selling... spotted same merc car advertised on two forecourts with 2k price difference. Hold fire if you're thinking of changing cars I say for another few months.

[@DJ_CJ_NL]

i feel you, but i needed to trade my car in, it just starting to get costly repairs coming up, was better to take that hit of a newer used one than to send money towards those repairs. so sometimes you just can't but if you can: Hold the purchase off a bit.

[@ThePetrolhead94]

Cupra doing 0% finance for July I bought a Formentor got a ridiculous deal

[@showsiff]

Cupra will end up superseding the Seat brand, I can imagine them quietly discontinuing Seat in the next few years, there's no pure EVs planned for Seat apparently so that would suggest it's on the way out

[@NobbyOnCars]

Haven’t confirmed that but they did bring it up in March that they would make a decision soon

[@ThePetrolhead94]

I reckon Seat will become the Dacia of the Volkswagen group Makes sense to do that

[@neilclarke3513]

Could you not spec the seat leon up to the same price....and get what!?

[@scotlandsbatman]

Be easier if we skip your marketing "add" 8 mins in to an 11 min video before the car moves?

[@NobbyOnCars]

How about don’t watch the fucking video then 🤦🏼

[@ic2433]

I really think Cupra should stick to the faster models rather than just adding some colour and a different badge. It should be about performance and looks for Cupra not just giving a standard Seat model with a new frock.

[@sevesellors2831]

Clever marketing it’s an expensive Seat, the plan will be kill off Seat call them Cupra and charge more. Same at Citroen and DS. Badge engineering is back same at VW , Skoda. Takes me back to the sixties when you bought Morris or Austin or paid more for the MG, Wolseley, or Riley. Remember what goes round comes round. Now over to Vauxhall to bring back Opel and charge more got that nice reassuring German name yes charge another £5000.

[@user-sl4lm1rw5e]

Whats with all these cars with black alloys.....yuk..

[@mamba101]

In a sad irony, Cupra died for me when they spun it off as its own thing. It used to mean actual sporty car, now it’s diluted with crossovers and slow cars.

[@autozoomies]

yea mines a mk3 300 (ish), when i see a mk4 now on the road, thinking its the full fat version, then when they don't play you realise the difference with how much bhp i have compared to their "cupra" is more then their cupra has bhp 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂, they need to stick to the full fat versions

[@jamesoneill5810]

Couldn't agree more. Seat was once the harder-core hot hatch over the other VAG hot hatchback variants

[@ResevoirGod]

@@autozoomiesThat’s your fault for not knowing the different trims. It’s the same as VW really with Golf GTI and Golf R…

[@autozoomies]

​@@ResevoirGod its not though is it: gti (red trim pieces, gti badge rear & side, duel silver circle exhausts) R (silver trim, r badge rear & side, quad oval exhausts) easy to tell apart. but put a cupra Leon v1 1.5( kzbin.info/www/bejne/haGpqZ6XbaiFZ7M ) next to a cupra Leon vz2 300 ps ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIe7Y2mBjtaLpaM ) , about the only easy to sport diff is the exhaust, but if you see it from side or front, or you can't see the exhausts, tell me you can easily spot the difference when in traffic?

[@ResevoirGod]

@@autozoomies Admittedly they look similar from the front. The main clue between the three (don’t forget about the VZ3) are the different alloys. VZ2 and 3 have larger alloys which are also styled differently to the ones found on the VZ1. Also funny that this is your criticism coming from a Mk3. I also had a Mk3 and your same logic applies to the FR vs Cupra…

[@terrydelahunt842]

You'd want to be mad to pay that 5k difference. The interior on seat/cupra is a let down, not of the same quality as other vw group brands. Cupra used to stand for performance, it seems they've watered that down to nothing now.

[@gm2543]

One stupod thing why sporty and not even add side kit ussless all ones with the name cupra and sport should auto be side body kit o well abarth better has full body kits allways ❤❤ btw when you saod its to dark in side no its to light the top roof should been all black better ❤❤

[@bruts82]

Avoid all vag group cars with these infotainment systems they are a mess

[@NobbyOnCars]

This one actually behaved.

[@davidkinsella]

No issues with the modern versions of software on VW Group cars.

[@bruts82]

@@NobbyOnCars give it time I noticed colder weather affects it massively especially radar on the front

[@kaziez]

​​​@@NobbyOnCars you have it for a few weeks you will understand. Loads of little bugs. Radar randomly stops, screen turns off and you have reboot , won't save setting , throws random errors about the engine, restart and it's fine. ahh, the list is too long to mention. Wouldn't mind if it was getting fixed but it's not.

[@frasergray2862]

Nice to see a review of the base (ish) spec Cupra Leon. I’m not sure the price disparity like-for-like is as large as you say. Maybe £1.5k between 150 bhp etsi fr/v1 equivalents in the UK. Seat range runs out at 190 bhp petrol too.