Homemade Diamond Belts Made for a Fraction of the Price!

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Currently Rockhounding

Currently Rockhounding

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@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
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@lithicbeads
@lithicbeads 10 ай бұрын
When I was administrator on a lapidary site a decade ago we published this information ( similar not exact) and we were informed by a lapidary retailer who recoats that we would be sued if we did not pull the info. It caused a lot of folks a lot of grief. Nice work.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 10 ай бұрын
That's funny, people who threaten lawsuits have never actually sued someone before and have no idea of the costs involved. Sounds like you're talking about Johnson Brothers here, if that's the case, I welcome them to say that to me! :)
@denttech2515
@denttech2515 9 ай бұрын
What is there to sue over? If its Johnson Bros, I'll never buy from them again. There are no patents on mixing diamond powder with epoxy alone. Far too vague. It would have to be more specific. As in, a new tool design, for instance, but it would have to be the same process and product, and they would have to make a profit from it. Anyone can make anything, as long as they're not making a profit from marketing a patented or licensed product
@dannyc6166
@dannyc6166 6 ай бұрын
It’s better to be sued than to sue. Once you say “I’ll sue” you’ve already been screwed. I had a lawsuit I filed & the legal fees were 2.3 million. 4 years in court 2 trials, & a jury verdict in my favor. Collecting is another story. Ended up settling for 1/2 the awarded amount. That’s reality!!!! So now when I hear someone say “I’ll sue” I think, they don’t understand the reality.
@mortimerschnerd3846
@mortimerschnerd3846 6 ай бұрын
Sue away! Cheeky blighter! I have free legal if you don't count my daughter's law school tuition.
@dannyc6166
@dannyc6166 6 ай бұрын
@@lithicbeads once you say “we’ll sue” you’re already screwed. It’s much better to be the suede person than the person filing the lawsuit.
@spetkovsek57
@spetkovsek57 Жыл бұрын
Since the belts absorb so much on the first layer, maybe you should do the first layer with epoxy and dye only. Then follow up with the epoxy/diamond/dye on the second layer. Then it will not use so much of the diamond powder up front. As usual, another good informative video. Thank you.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I think that would be a much better way to do it for sure.
@cliffmiller1021
@cliffmiller1021 Жыл бұрын
Always upping your game. You got me thinking about how the ancient peoples worked stones. Time to go digging.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
You bring up a very interesting and good topic here. I really don't have a clue as to how this was done like pre 1900.
@kidcurry4107
@kidcurry4107 Жыл бұрын
AWESOME, Dude! Who doesn't love to save money?
@loreleil.sternod2169
@loreleil.sternod2169 5 ай бұрын
My lapidary workshop and my business have benefited tremendously from having found your channel and binging your videos, like most people do with Netflix! I just want to give credit where due, and while I could never find the words to have enough impact based on the respect and appreciation that I have for you, I simply want to say thank you and you're appreciated. I'm currently developing a diamond impregnated resin soft when for my Dremel, which I use primarily based on what I do, and the only reason I even thought it possible and worked so diligently to come up with this idea is due to watching your tenacity and ingenuity. So thank you so much, and please continue to share your knowledge and being he prime example of what more people in the world should strive to be, in your undying drive towards education and invention!!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 5 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words, they really do mean a lot to me. I would love to hear how those go for you. Not enough people are producing their own diamond products.
@sketchywhaler
@sketchywhaler Жыл бұрын
I am not very happy. I have been perfecting my own diamond belts and I thought I was the only one to make my own other than the Johnson brothers. I have been looking for months for a KZbin video on this but couldn't find one. I am kidding, but I wish I had this method before.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
What have you been doing for your method?
@ColinMcGregor-c1p
@ColinMcGregor-c1p Жыл бұрын
i love your honesty in all your videos.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
It's the only way.
@largent45
@largent45 Жыл бұрын
You are already established as the man to listen to when it comes to diy lapidary products! After the arbor build out, you really got your name out there! And now the belts is an awesome step up! We all already know that if Jared built it, you know it's good! Thanks Jared!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I do really enjoy making things like this and I hope some people can use it to start saving money where they can. Less money in the shop and more in the gas tank!!!
@rachaelb9164
@rachaelb9164 Жыл бұрын
Maybe put on a layer of clear epoxy first and then add the diamond solution after that’s dry. It probably soaks into the belt. They make silicone brushes that wouldn’t fall apart on the belt. Basically this is the way people make those really cool looking water cups with all the glitter and stuff. Our friend is trying this with nova wheels once they are worn down to nothing. I love finding ways to make this hobby a bit more affordable.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Now that I know how much soaks into the belt I think that would have been best. The issues I had with these throw away brushes was not the best at all and I will have to find one of those silicone brushes.
@scottlubsen9004
@scottlubsen9004 4 ай бұрын
That’s why you start with the highest grit # , then you shouldn’t have a problem with cross contamination.
@Mike-br8vb
@Mike-br8vb Жыл бұрын
I will be watching all your vlogs, so much useful info! A lot of people don't have the $$$$ to spend on this equipment. Your Diy methods shall prove to be rather useful. Thanks!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I hear you there, I couldn't buy everything new if I wanted to so I like make things like this as well as restore old machines.
@bryanolsen5764
@bryanolsen5764 Жыл бұрын
If you start with the finest diamonds 3000 you should do 1500 next and work your way to the corest you don't have to worry about the wrong diamond being on the wrong wheel.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I do plan on making more just like this.
@mindseyeproductions8798
@mindseyeproductions8798 Жыл бұрын
if you start out with the finer grit and progress to heavier grits then cleaning is null.
@arloames4517
@arloames4517 6 ай бұрын
You can use methyl (denatured) alcohol as a thinner for epoxy. Might help in painting the belt.
@patriciamckean4186
@patriciamckean4186 Жыл бұрын
I love saving money, who doesn't. Great Information, love that you try to help others.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
It's a two way street, you should look at the ideas and help in the comments section of this video. Y'all share some great ideas with me here.
@christinedavies9214
@christinedavies9214 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this. For those of us who are straight hobbyists, the cost of belts is prohibitive. I appreciate an alternative.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@melissawhite210
@melissawhite210 5 ай бұрын
"We're not doing that! We're making our own!" I like your style. Excellent.
@wrekced
@wrekced 11 ай бұрын
@CurrentlyRockhounding: If you were to put a thick layer of epoxy without grit on the belt first. You could pass the belt between two rollers pressed together (or one roller against a tabletop or some other flat, hard surface.) to push the epoxy into the fabric of the belt. After that, epoxy with grit should go on evenly without thin spots. I think that a small, rubber roller with some way to adjust its position, placed above the roller on your motorized stand, would be able to press the epoxy/grit into the belt so that it is spread out without so many high or low spots. Then your break in period might be shorter as well as producing a more even distribution of grit on the belt. If you have access to a 3D printer, you could print a small trough with a slot in the bottom that is as wide as the belts are. If you make the slot the right width, and put the trough above the belt roller so that epoxy poured into the trough will flow evenly onto the belt. If you desigh the trough right you can make a follower (the follower should fit the trough's internal profile so that, when it is pushed in all the way, there is no void space where epoxy can hide) to push the epoxy/grit out of the slot. If you put the trough in front of the roller I described above, all you would have to do is to put the belt in place and start the motor. Then you'd just pour in the epoxy and put the follower in place and it would do the rest. With some experimentation, you should be able to make belts quickly and easily while still making high quality coatings on them. This is a great idea. Thanks for making this video.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 11 ай бұрын
The process could use some improvements for sure, and it sounds like a lot of those ideas you have here are worth looking into more.
@hellboundrubber4448
@hellboundrubber4448 Жыл бұрын
As a bike messenger back in the 90's we never raced with color tires. The dye used to color them made the rubber slicker and prone to slipping on the track.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Okay...
@Therapistinthewhitehouse
@Therapistinthewhitehouse Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about making my own diamond plates for my fixed geometry knife sharpening system and this has given me a few ideas. Thank you.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it to be helpful.
@savage1r
@savage1r Жыл бұрын
WOW! That one at the end looks like glass! Awesome job!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@michaeldowns5270
@michaeldowns5270 Жыл бұрын
You might go for a 1" putty knife to apply and a 3" to evenly ?, spread. You might upgrade the arbor to better hold the wheel. That stuff is thick.
@SissyMchill1
@SissyMchill1 Жыл бұрын
So similar to frosting a cake type motion? Yes that could possibly work. Good idea in my opinion.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That very likely would have been a better way to go here with it. Pretty much I'm learning as I go with this.
@josephstanley200
@josephstanley200 Жыл бұрын
I’d go ahead and try that one that was sticky just because it’s sticky doesn’t mean that it’s not gonna work it means that there was enough Hardner in the whatever the topcoat him or you have on that and it’s that you can also just mix a little bit more up put it on top and harden it
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I really chalked it up as a loss but I don't see any harm in giving that a try. Thank you for the idea.
@TheAngieStoned
@TheAngieStoned 10 ай бұрын
Liked it? Loved it! You sir, are nothing short of a genius
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@florianfleischner6277
@florianfleischner6277 11 ай бұрын
I have seen a couple of diy diamond belt production vids here on youtube. One thing I would highly recomend for all is: mix the resin completly before adding diamond- otherwise the first substance sticking to the diamond will lead to less bounding within the matrix I guess. Beside that thanks for the explanation and sharing. Cheers f
@DavyRayVideo
@DavyRayVideo Жыл бұрын
Epoxy can be hardened using ozone and / or heat. UV sometimes helps it to polymerize.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Interesting, I will have to look into that. Thank you!
@spetkovsek57
@spetkovsek57 Жыл бұрын
@@CurrentlyRockhounding This is true, but it might be a specific type of epoxy that cures with UV. I hope it works with all of them though.
@dennyps1
@dennyps1 5 ай бұрын
You come up with some good ideas and buck the "system" and i like your DIY spirit. I'm thinking if this works on belts, then why not on 6 to 8 inch discs for laps. Thanks for your efforts 👌
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@michaelprue9024
@michaelprue9024 11 ай бұрын
Gotta admit, I was a bit skeptical at first, but you smashed that. Great video bud. I mean, you showed us in real time, mistakes and all, and proved it can work, and work very well. That’s awesome. Thank you for sharing this with us.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, I try to show my homework on projects like this.
@Debbie4729
@Debbie4729 9 ай бұрын
This is the best video out there so far,in my opinion! Thanks so much! You know,the mistake belt could be used inside out! Just do the process again,on the inside! In a pinch you could try to recoat it,also.I am going to use my current wheels,well cleaned,since the belts don't come off my six inch.But thanks again! I have a Kingsley North catalog,so I'll look this stuff up!!!
@charlenecastaldo3602
@charlenecastaldo3602 Жыл бұрын
Great idea, Jared! Way to go. I love how resourceful and creative you are.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@maicodoug
@maicodoug 3 ай бұрын
There are epoxy colored part B die, red, green, blue, Etc. I would consider making a tray to roll the blank belt in (where did you get those blanks at anyway??) also you can add no more than 10% pure 98% or better alcohol to thin the epoxy. I have tried spraying with an airbrush vinyl (fake leather) sheet material that has a fuzz like velcro backing surface. Seems to be working for a light cut & polish. 1.0-0.5 micron diamond. For my Hi Tech 6" disk. Thanks for the video, tip...counter top bread makers have a great AC motor that is brushless. The lower half is a steel bulkhead works combined with a wood second half making up a dynamite rock tumbler. Currently using a 6" PVC section w/ end caps.
@greenleeja
@greenleeja 11 ай бұрын
Alumalite dyes are more concentrated, 1 drop will definitely show up through the diamond dust. I wonder if you can do a light coat of just epoxy, let that cure for 4-6 hours, then recoat with the diamond mixture.
@spetkovsek57
@spetkovsek57 Жыл бұрын
After reading some of the other's comments, how about this. get a wide putty knife and bend the edges right at the width of the belt so it looks like an elongated U L_______l. Then attach a spring to keep it in contact with the belt/drum with light pressure. Then you can drizzle the epoxy onto the belt and let the spring loaded putty knife do the spreading. It will also keep the drum/belt aligned by the bent up edges. Obviously you would remove it at some point so as not to epoxy it to the wheel.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Ohhh I like that idea!
@tomasotreasaigh111
@tomasotreasaigh111 7 ай бұрын
​@@CurrentlyRockhounding Thanks for all the tips guys, peace and best wishes to you all from a fellow Rockhound in Ireland 👍🏻
@christopherlund1198
@christopherlund1198 Жыл бұрын
Oh Hell Yea!
@sandmaker
@sandmaker Жыл бұрын
Good job I might have to try it Keep the wheels turning. I cant wait to see what you come up with next. 😊 😷⚒
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear about it if you do!
@lavonneschultz1322
@lavonneschultz1322 11 ай бұрын
I absolutely love your videos. Appreciate all the information shared in a ‘real’ manner!! Thank you I look forward to the day when I can actually support your work
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for the kind words! I do my best around here, and I'm glad people like the videos.
@reversefulfillment9189
@reversefulfillment9189 Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Thanks
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marcosofsky2605
@marcosofsky2605 Жыл бұрын
Ingenius economical no expensive or heavy equipment required, no lathes or welding-EXCELLENT! A very doable project for my skill level and budget. I will have to improvise for an expandable drum wheel or a substitute-I am not afraid to experiment a bit -limiting waste is key. Thanks Jared!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I think what I did here could also really be improved on, I think a better bush would be nice as well as a better system for turning the wheel would be good.
@michaels5705
@michaels5705 Жыл бұрын
Adding a acetone a few drops at a time until the 220 glue is an easier to apply to the wheel might make it go smoother.
@jonathanrood3548
@jonathanrood3548 11 ай бұрын
Acetone won't ruin the curing process?
@cynthiafoss8086
@cynthiafoss8086 Жыл бұрын
WOW, great shine
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@g_ozzy
@g_ozzy Жыл бұрын
You rock, Thank you:)
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it.
@dustinfindsrocks
@dustinfindsrocks Жыл бұрын
Wow what a project! 🤔 you could definitely streamline the process but I’d say that’s a huge success!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Oh for sure there is better ways to do this I think and I hope to see other people take the concept here and make it better.
@stellabelikiewicz1523
@stellabelikiewicz1523 Ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE concept and thank you so much for showing us the whole process! Do you think this technique would work to make flat laps (as that’s the only equipment I’ve got)? I’m not sure what to make the base out of, not sure if it should have some flexibility?? Epoxy is already so brittle that maybe a rigid substrate like scuffed acrylic would be a good choice? Anyway, you have definitely got me inspired!
@Rocktwister
@Rocktwister Жыл бұрын
Just wow!
@danmichell7516
@danmichell7516 Жыл бұрын
ideas to ponder pre coat the belt die may be seen diamond will be on the surface acetone will thin epoxy hope this helps as i will try this urd best tuber
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I really didn't think of thinning the epoxy out but that would have really helped.
@michaeltaylor1985
@michaeltaylor1985 Жыл бұрын
Spray the sticky belt with zap a gap catalyst and it will cure.
@createdbycathy
@createdbycathy 23 күн бұрын
I am thinking could use apoxy and diamond powder to create sanding blocks for hand sanding too.
@josephpotterf9459
@josephpotterf9459 Жыл бұрын
Thanks and nice shop ya got there
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it.
@marcosofsky2605
@marcosofsky2605 Жыл бұрын
I may go with flat laps rather than wheels -easier for the machines I am using, I may have to recalculate the formula is all to cover a different size area and I can crunch a few numbers and give it a go!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I think a flat lap would also be well worth testing this concept out on. I would love to hear how it goes for you.
@rolintt
@rolintt Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think I'll also try this on my homemade 10" flat lap machine.
@RonPuFahl
@RonPuFahl Жыл бұрын
I think if you used a rubber brayer to coat the belt like putting ink on a running printing press.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I will look into it.
@graemero5532
@graemero5532 Жыл бұрын
Great job Jared, That will be such a useful video for rockhounds on a budget 👏
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@denttech2515
@denttech2515 9 ай бұрын
Start with the finest grit and work your way toward the coarsest. There is no need to clean in between. Can't contaminate a coarse grit with a finer one. Thanks for sharing. Learning about something I've been curious about, but haven't taken the plunge
@roman11469
@roman11469 Жыл бұрын
Great video…thanks!
@sketchywhaler
@sketchywhaler Жыл бұрын
Btw I just mix in acrylic paint and it works just fine as a dye.
@jonathanrood3548
@jonathanrood3548 11 ай бұрын
Over time I realized that acrylic paint can actually make the epoxy harder (maybe more brittle). Acrylic will also decrease the cure time with 10% added, as you increase it will cause the epoxy to become clumpy and harden almost instantly when you add a 1/1 ratio of acrylic to epoxy. Interesting stuff to play with.
@donscottvansandt4139
@donscottvansandt4139 5 ай бұрын
Great video!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 5 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@jeffdillon-zg7oq
@jeffdillon-zg7oq Жыл бұрын
Great video. I love your out of the box thinking.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@775Rockhounding
@775Rockhounding Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for sharing this useful information with us. Love seeing all your new projects.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!
@RonBateman-vl2wz
@RonBateman-vl2wz Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. I can see definite application of this to my cabbing work.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you found it to be helpful.
@gator83261
@gator83261 Жыл бұрын
Very good video.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it.
@modernfossil8866
@modernfossil8866 Жыл бұрын
you could even apply to old worn-out nova wheels
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
You can for sure recoat wheels like those.
@ukrainef_poo-tin8917
@ukrainef_poo-tin8917 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, Thanks
@TruFrag
@TruFrag 7 ай бұрын
I really want to learn how to electroplate diamond on to steel for making bits and burrs.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 7 ай бұрын
I would also like to learn how to do that.
@bentationfunkiloglio
@bentationfunkiloglio Жыл бұрын
My diamonds are en-route. Totally stealing all the good ideas and suggestions. Thx for video.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Do it! Part of the reason I make these videos is so that people can piggy back on the work I have done and hopefully I can do the same when other people take it and make improvements.
@tenaedmonson1213
@tenaedmonson1213 Жыл бұрын
Wow, very nice!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@mikerandolph5827
@mikerandolph5827 Жыл бұрын
Love your channel! Your creativity is inspiring. Suggest dying the belts before you start applying the epoxy. A few years ago I heard someone suggest using cold galvanizing compound spray and diamond to rejuvenate flat laps and galaxy wheels. I haven't tried yet, but intend to after a few more pressing projects are finished. Keep up the great work!!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Hmmm that's an interesting concept. If you try it I would love hear about it.
@NewZealandRocksDownunder
@NewZealandRocksDownunder Жыл бұрын
I wonder if that would work for flat lap disks?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I don't see why you couldn't do this to a soft resin lap.
@kiddkarnelian3723
@kiddkarnelian3723 3 ай бұрын
Most wheels you buy I believe have 5-7 carats
@johnsaucerhunter
@johnsaucerhunter Жыл бұрын
Hey Jared.. what a great idea. Love the out-of-the-box ideas and concept's you mull over, experiment, and then share with us the results. With that said, if I recall correctly, the whole idea was to not have the problems that can be associated with "Cerium Oxide". Watching you DIY and creating your own belts got me wondering if the same idea could be applied (concept-wise) to creating a epoxy-based Cerium or even a Tin Oxide belt? I'm just talking outloud here.. Really enjoyed his episode and wish you continued success!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That is a really neat idea and something I really haven't considered but I think it is something worth exploring.
@spetkovsek57
@spetkovsek57 Жыл бұрын
@@CurrentlyRockhounding HP does make a Cerium Oxide belt for one of there machine, so it can be done. Scott Wilkins uses one on his channel if you want to see it in action.
@bhutjolokia6990
@bhutjolokia6990 8 ай бұрын
Awesome video!! Thanks for the solid information!!👍😎👻🤪🌶
@savage1r
@savage1r Жыл бұрын
I had a thought and I thought I'd run it by you to see if you think it's feasible. I think that, depending on the consistency of the quartzite, it should be possible to mill out an AR-15 lower receiver. It's a part that does not undergo any pressure other than the rear tower that houses the recoil assembly and I believe that it might be possible to handle that stress or the tower could be milled with extra thickness if needed.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting concept but it might be rather hard to pull off and the end result might not fully function.
@savage1r
@savage1r Жыл бұрын
@@CurrentlyRockhounding wish I knew someone with a 5 axis cnc that could handle rock...
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
@@savage1r Sintered bits should do it.
@joniangelsrreal6262
@joniangelsrreal6262 Жыл бұрын
Always a valuable learning experience … thanks
@queryads1000
@queryads1000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@FSCHW
@FSCHW Жыл бұрын
Interesting process. Since it’s a cloth belt, why not pre mark the belt with a marker to show the grit size rather than use die.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I did that on the inside but I guess I was hoping that the color would make it really easy to know which one is which.
@zezoseller6
@zezoseller6 Ай бұрын
kindly, what is the amount of glue u put on 15g dimoned?
@ambkbero2
@ambkbero2 Жыл бұрын
You are the man and what great idea to make your own belts. Thank you for all your hard work and teaching us these very cool tricks.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Thank you for being here watching the videos, without viewers nothing like this happens.
@ambkbero2
@ambkbero2 Жыл бұрын
@@CurrentlyRockhounding I usually consider myself pretty resourceful and cheap, but I have met my match and bow down before your omnipotent presence.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
@@ambkbero2 Ha!
@socalrockhound
@socalrockhound Жыл бұрын
What if you used a big plastic putty knife and let the belt spin around although I think it’s lose fit cause no speed to hold the belt.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That would have likely been better.
@cb175s
@cb175s Жыл бұрын
Great video Gives me ideas , thank you I'm thinking the cold weather caused issues with the 1st belt not drying also possible the amount of material mixed with the epoxy caused it to not cure. But it sounds like the BSI epoxy did the trick. 👍👍 BSI is the best glues for everything with the exception of E6000. Lol
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Yeah the weather sure could have been a factor. I think in the perfect world it would have been done in a climate controlled space.
@bobs-rocks
@bobs-rocks Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the how to! Please continue with the how too's. What RPM is the loritone drum unit?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you liked it! My Lortone arbor is running at 1800rpm.
@kiddkarnelian3723
@kiddkarnelian3723 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if you could do this for the wheels you already have but have blow outs or cracks and just put a thin coat with diamond on
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 3 ай бұрын
You can and people do!
@kimdedominicis6893
@kimdedominicis6893 Жыл бұрын
Cool idea! Did you make an 8000? I like to use that between the 3000 and the 14000.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I have not yet but I would like to.
@jasonswed5936
@jasonswed5936 Жыл бұрын
What if you did a initial epoxy layer without diamond grit to get established and then apply second coat with diamond grit?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I think that is a much better way to do it.
@cailinanne
@cailinanne Жыл бұрын
I do this but with food. I see it + I like it + I’ll use it = I need it = I eventually make it.
@DinoStones_com
@DinoStones_com 4 ай бұрын
Nice video Jared! Have you made smaller diamond wheels, 1 in for detail work?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 4 ай бұрын
I have not done this for smaller wheels.
@sketchywhaler
@sketchywhaler Жыл бұрын
So now that it has been a few days, how are the belts lasting? I am assuming that you made this is march or so because of the heavy clothes. What I have noticed is that the belts tend to work the best from 230 to 2k or so. I have a hard time making the 3k belts last without giving extra light scratches from the hard epoxy. I have also found that I need to take a 60 grit sand paper to the belts to even out the wear sometimes.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
It has actually been several months, I made the belts in April 2023 and this video finished up in mid June 2023. What epoxy are you using?
@BubuH-cq6km
@BubuH-cq6km Жыл бұрын
😳I'm surprised the "Harbor Freight Specials" actually had any bristles left at the end
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
They do suck a little bit but they did work but nicer ones would have been an improvement.
@DonariaRegia
@DonariaRegia Жыл бұрын
@@CurrentlyRockhounding A little CA glue applied where the bristles come out of the handle, sprinkle a little baking soda on the area and you have instantly cured glue with bristles fixed in place. Do a small batch for efficiency.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
@@DonariaRegia Dang! That's a really smart idea! Thank you for that.
@mikedodge3910
@mikedodge3910 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could thin the epoxy with acetone and then spray it on with an airbrush?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Maybe? I really don't know much about things like that.
@bentationfunkiloglio
@bentationfunkiloglio Жыл бұрын
Air brushes are typically gravity fed. In a low viscosity fluid, the diamonds would probably fall out of suspension too fast. However, still a really good idea with one small modification. Put epoxy on first, then spray on the diamonds with a spray gun used for etching glass. Would need to lower air pressure considerably. .... hrmmmmm, might work.
@mikedodge3910
@mikedodge3910 Жыл бұрын
@bentationfunkiloglio8485 thank you for that great input!
@Debbie4729
@Debbie4729 9 ай бұрын
@@bentationfunkiloglio And wear a REALLY good respirator!No fun breathing diamond dust into your lungs!!!
@stephaniephelps3539
@stephaniephelps3539 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Did you happen to look at the belts with your microscope to see the concentration, distribution and exposure (from under the epoxy) of the diamonds? Wonder how that is going to change over use....
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I did and the concentration seem even, its a little hard to tell really but they seem perfectly fine to me.
@BackcountrywithShaughn
@BackcountrywithShaughn Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing as always sir. Also am curious how much time was involved in getting parts, putting together the equipment you used and actually coating the belts? Also, am not sure I understand all the math involved. You mention that you were holding three containers with 100cts of diamonds....that = 33.333cts per jar and you said it was $70 for the three jars or $23.33 per jar. If you used 30cts of diamonds per belt and the jar has 33.333cts it would seem that you used around $20 of diamonds per belt...is that accurate? Thanks again!
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
Each one of those containers were 100cts, so 300 in total. So the exact math break down of price was $22.07 per 100cts x 3 which is $66.21 total. Using about 30 cts per belt to establish the belt comes to a diamond price of $6.62, and then add the resin and the actual belt. It wasn't a lot of time spent on the project really, I mean most of the time was spent waiting for them to cure and figuring out that to get them made it kind of needs to be done twice.
@BackcountrywithShaughn
@BackcountrywithShaughn Жыл бұрын
@@CurrentlyRockhounding Good to know. Thank you!
@estycki
@estycki 7 ай бұрын
I've never used belts before, only diamond resin wheels. What's the benefit to using belts? Just price?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 7 ай бұрын
Price and selection of what you want.
@stevejuststuff2779
@stevejuststuff2779 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you heated the mixture a little bit if it would mix and spread easier for you? Great video. Thanks
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That could help and its something I should test out.
@CaravanningNewZealand
@CaravanningNewZealand Жыл бұрын
Heat may accelerate the epoxy cure time? Not too much of a problem as you are using a slow cure epoxy though.
@jonathanrood3548
@jonathanrood3548 11 ай бұрын
Heat will help, but too much heat can cause the epoxy to become brittle.
@modernfossil8866
@modernfossil8866 Жыл бұрын
great Vid, What would you use to make a nova disk?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That's a good question, I haven't tried its with any flat discs.
@christinedavies9214
@christinedavies9214 Жыл бұрын
Do you think it would help to put a layer of epoxy down before mixing in any diamond powder?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
I do think that would be good.
@qwerty3663
@qwerty3663 Жыл бұрын
You should try thinning out the epoxy and doing many light coats. I have a friend that did this but gave up as he could get them from someone else that also makes them for about the same price but does not waste time and stick with the core hobby.
@ssteele1812
@ssteele1812 8 ай бұрын
Just curious how these brlts are holding up if you are still using them.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 8 ай бұрын
They have held up great.
@Defundemorats
@Defundemorats 9 ай бұрын
Couldn't you use a foam roller and spin it
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 9 ай бұрын
It is way too thick for that.
@alanmorgan2536
@alanmorgan2536 3 ай бұрын
I bought 8" belts from Kingsley North several years ago and used them a maximum of 10 times before they broke at the seam. I would much rather do this than waste money.
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, they should be last a great deal longer than that. I still have and run these belts I made in this video. They can just be re-coated over and over again.
@miketufts9765
@miketufts9765 Жыл бұрын
Great idea to save money,I like the video although I do not do lapidary,I believe your greatest challenge is to get the glue even,my idea to achieve is to use 2 spinning wheels,1000th-2000th?,apart from each other,I would use a poker card as gap set,rotate 2 blankets put glue in between cleavage,add until all absorbed even distribution
@JLME2
@JLME2 Жыл бұрын
I'm considering doing this to re-coat some Cab King 6 inch wheels that are 1.5 inch wide. That would take quite a bit less than what you used for these belts. Any recommendation for the weight of epoxy and carats for that size compared to what you mixed?
@CurrentlyRockhounding
@CurrentlyRockhounding Жыл бұрын
That is a good question. You could try doing half of what I did. Also you will want to clean those wheels really really well before doing it. I would wash them really well with hot water and dish soap and then wipe them down with some alcohol. You want them to be dirt and oil free for maximum adherence.
@berthendriksen2205
@berthendriksen2205 Ай бұрын
How did this work out for you using the 6 inch wheels? I'm going to try it with all my old 8 inch rez wheels. I can't see it being any different than a flexible belt.
@jarrodjoyce6892
@jarrodjoyce6892 3 ай бұрын
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