Taig Lathe Upgrades 5C Headstock

Upgrades to the taig! Here I install the new 5C headstock as well as give the lathe a little cleaning and adjustment.
Thanks to the fine folks over at taig tools...no affiliation/sponsorship I'm just a fan of their product:
www.taigtools.com/
Thanks for watching!

[@davediamond9436]

the founder/owner personally lapped each machine by hand..i have a picture from about 78 of Forrest at the work bench where he did it ..(original location in the city of industry, California) . i probably did machining on most of the components on the original micro lathe 2 ... it may sound funny and antiquated now ,but the scroll for the 3 jaw chuck was done on a 2 spindle head punched tape controlled Bridgeport ...

[@shaunm2208]

I am thinking of getting one of the lathes

[@zackcross3626]

Most retentive video I have ever watched. Not sure who is the real sicko here; you for being that meticulous or me for enjoying the video. :)

[@davidwillard7334]

It's Clearly YOU ! No Question here !

[@holmes230536]

Nice looking setup Kurt, might be a good idea to machine up a solid 5C plug with a threaded nose to suit your 3 and 4 jawn chucks sometime in the future,

[@philiplyew2800]

Hi. Great content! New subscriber. What is the exact model of your taig lathe? Trying to get one to make sax mouthpieces. Thanks

[@TheWeirdSide1]

Thanks for sharing...I cleaned mine recently..well, half of it! This inspired me to do the rest. ...Must..have..that..headstock

[@r.in.shibuya]

Great video! Do you mind sharing links Taig store links the whole Taig setup you have? Thanks!

[@davidwillard7334]

Outer Space Taig !

[@Alexander_technik]

Thank you for the review! Allow a few questions? In advance I apologize, if in a video it was, simply I am not strong in English. Tell me: whose production? what price? where ordered?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Thank-you, your English is fine! The Lathe is made by TaigTools, purchased online (TaigTools.com) and costs about $1000USD as shown (plus some custom parts I've made for it).

[@Alexander_technik]

Curt Filipowski. Thank you for the answer!!!! My English is a merit of Google translator.

[@petermenningen338]

Curt two questions 1. do you have power feed after the upgrade or is it possible? does the headstock come with the speed location sensor of the cnc version?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Yes the new models come with a power feed. The 5C headstock has a steel button embedded into the pulley for hall effect speed regulation (would need to use a DC controlled motor or servo for speed regulation).

[@shadybot6787]

I just watched your Concrete Lathe series. Wow! It inspired me to make one myself.

[@AndreBAnderson]

This looks like a cool upgrade but how good is it in practice? What are the deepest cuts you can take on it? What is the largest diameter you can realistically turn on it ? It's still made of aluminum.. can it really take advantage of the full range of 5c tooling including chucks made for much larger lathes? I'm curious what your experiences are. For me the ability to turn parts 2-3" in diameter from Aluminum is important. Could this handel that?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

It's amazing in practice for this size of machine. When roughing I typically take 0.1" cuts in aluminum, and about 0.03-0.05 in stainless. I have turned 2" aluminum round bar and that's what I would call the functional limit (material removal speed at 3"+ is a little slow but totally doable) I have done 3" turnings but this lathes sweet spot is about 1" and smaller in my experience (what typically fits in a 5C). If you are hogging material off your 2 or 3 inch stock I would suggest a larger machine, if it's only clean up cuts at that size I would say it's a fine fit.

[@AndreBAnderson]

@@CurtVanFilipowski Thanks for the helpful response Curt!

[@Dodi-nz3fd]

@@CurtVanFilipowski , Please provide the address of the dealer/distributor of this machine, in *Indonesia* .

[@davidwillard7334]

@@Dodi-nz3fd Tiag o.s Ind

[@marcustomlinson1433]

I like the aluminum plate that you mounted everything to instead of the board that comes with it. What size is it?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Its just a section of aluminum wrapped around some plywood...it was just to get it running but it worked so well I haven't changed it!

[@davidwillard7334]

One mm by one mm

[@Velocity1118]

Where did you purchase the 5c headstock in Canada? I can't seem to find any supplier that sells them.

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

I went directly thru taigtools...shipping was reasonable as well.

[@obe22099]

Is this Lathe modular? Based on their website it seems that way. I'm not sure about how to determine compatibility between parts. I'm just at the beginning of my research phase.

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Seems to be, way back when I purchased my stock unit you just ordered the "metalworking" or the "woodworking" series. Almost all the parts are interchangeable, I'm sure if you shot them an email they would be more than willing to help (I have zero affiliation with them...but I should lol).

[@oscar.gonzalez]

If you've used the Sherline models, which one would you say is better in capability, doing more?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Sadly I have no hands on experience with the Sherline models...I know their built quality is good but other then that my experience is centered around the Taigs.

[@davidwillard7334]

Both are Junk !!

[@Deadeyeo86]

Could you share where you got you tool holder PLEASE

[@davidwillard7334]

In Outer Space !

[@OriginalAtomicSheep]

Hi Curt, quick question, when looking at the 5C headstock from the side where the chucks get attached e.g. 9:14, what's the outer diameter of the silver round bit? The fixed one - the one that's screwed to the black case thing, not the inner one that rotates?

[@bertrandlabelle3869]

what lapping compound would you use?

[@davidwillard7334]

CUT OFF WHEEL GRIT !

[@Femmpaws]

I have one of these lathes and was thinking of swapping out the headstock to one of these how do you like it so far?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

AMAZING! One of the best upgrades I've purchased for this machine.

[@Femmpaws]

Thanks for the reply, so do you mind if I ask where in Canada you call home? I was also wondering how do you put a 3 or 4 jaw on the lathe now?

[@Femmpaws]

Thanks for getting back to me. Next question is how do you put a chuck on the lathe now? Don't tell me you are in Victoria...

[@tobyw9573]

Beautiful new spindle! Looks like you could lap just the moving part to the bed using wet/dry paper and oil. How long does disassemble/clean/assemble take? Looks like solvent-dunk/blow/lube would be sufficient.

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

The whole process could probably be done in under an hour if it had to be.

[@Dodi-nz3fd]

Please provide information on the address of Taig 5 c distributor, in *Indonesia* ...

[@davidwillard7334]

O.s taig Ind

[@shadowbanned-9577]

MADE IN AMERICA, GREAT JOB!... The price Worth it in The FEEL GOOD aspect alone...

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Thanks! I totally agree...I'm not from the land of the free but feels good to help support our southern neighbors none the less!

[@Dodi-nz3fd]

@@CurtVanFilipowski , Please provide the address of the dealer/distributor of this machine, in *Indonesia* .

[@davidwillard7334]

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[@davidwillard7334]

Land of the lost ! Brain cells ! More like !

[@WeekendBuilds]

That's a substantial looking headstock! how much of a passthrough is it now with the 5C? I have a screw on er32 for the original head stock and it did a great job and making it more rigid, but I lost close to 5 inches of travel. Does that one eat up a great deal of space too?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

It can take all sizes of 5C so you get just over 1" of passthru diameter. I find since the x carriage can actually run under the nose of the spindle its about equal to using the stock headstock with a 3/4 jaw in regard to bed space available. The amount of rigidity and clamping pressure you gain is off the chart, not a cheap upgrade but so far I'm super happy with it.

[@WeekendBuilds]

Thats good to know, I'm at that point where I'm starting to ask myself, do I keep upgrading my taig or look into something bigger.

[@carlfrye1566]

Are you familiar with the old Bennie Hill show?

[@Dodi-nz3fd]

@@CurtVanFilipowski , Please provide the address of the dealer/distributor of this machine, in *Indonesia* .

[@bucstart]

Hey Curt --- Thanks for the excellent videos, I appreciate you taking the time put these together. One question, I like your toolpost, I'm assuming it's height adjustable similar to an Aloris stye post. Did you fabricate it yourself, or is this available on the market? I am considering purchasing a Taig Lathe and would really like not having to shim the tools to adjust the height. Thanks.

[@robwardmassey]

I had the same question.

[@samanderson6079]

He made it himself

[@bucstart]

@@samanderson6079 Thanks Sam

[@samanderson6079]

@@bucstart no problem, he has a video on it, and the plans are available for purchase on his website.

[@zeeek1]

Where can I get a tool holder like that for my Taig?

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

You've got to make it my friend...I have a video on it :).

[@zeeek1]

@@CurtVanFilipowski Oy Vey! Make it on my Taig!? :o

[@davidwillard7334]

@@zeeek1 its in Outer Space !.

[@davidwillard7334]

Looks quite Ready to be Donated ! To !. Charity ! Now !

[@JarppaGuru]

11:16 propably centric but its not aligned aquare so it gives not round measure. measure longer. if it get bigger then its not aligned correctly

[@davidwillard7334]

Then it's Exact !

[@atastycloud]

Where can I get buy a drill chuck that screws on the tailstock?

[@atastycloud]

@@davidwillard7334 HAHHAH, I remember I commented this when I first started learning about machining. I didn't know at the time that there are screwed on or tapered drill chuck and that there are different sizes of threads/pitch etc.

[@atastycloud]

@@davidwillard7334 No I blame u

[@davidwillard7334]

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[@atastycloud]

@@davidwillard7334 For the outer space

[@atastycloud]

@UCsSdwWJbF99tIFzm_zszepg yes

[@tobyw9573]

Ideally you would check out the spindle first with a DTI for runout then progress to the runout on a ground shaft. The tool you checked indicated a bit notchy, somehow. Then try the collet in several positions as well as leaning on the ground shaft to check for flex in brgs and spindle assy flex. I am considering buying a Taig and am very interested in the accuracy. So far everyone seems to be machining aluminum and plastic. You say the new belt did not slip. Do you think the motor and bed are strong enough to accurately turn max diameter steel and iron that will fit the chuck? I am interested in making steam engines as well as upgrading my shop equipment (Out of round rotating parts on HF stuff, LOL) . Thanks for the video :)

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Thanks for the comment, your method of running a DTI is MUCH better then my quick test. I have cut mild steel without issues on the taig (which is far easier then I would have expected)...doubt it would have any issues with turning down cast iron parts. Haven't tried Titanium yet (not sure if I want to try that without coolant) but will be running some stainless over it shortly. All depends on the speed at which you want to work, its not going to remove metal like a 2000lbs machine but its more then capable for its work envelope (which I would consider 1" and smaller). Biggest issues I have are the carriage travel when working between centers (I need to make a longer dead center for the tailstock someday) and the lack of change gears for threading...but I'll still take my taig over an import benchtop lathe any day of the week!

[@tobyw9573]

Curt Filipowski , I think I saw someone turn threads by putting a position counter and using that input to drive a servo or stepper on the carriage lead screw. That way you can turn any ratio that the servo can handle with no change gears at all. Not like I have any actual experience w/CNC or the like, I just read alot and look at the pictures, LOL.

[@Dodi-nz3fd]

@@CurtVanFilipowski , Please provide the address of the dealer/distributor of this machine, in *Indonesia* .

[@davidwillard7334]

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[@davidwillard7334]

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[@anoncode4660]

This actually doubles as great asmr.

[@davidwillard7334]

It's just single asmr

[@user-ur2sn9cc1x]

Для стариков, слыхивал я, время летит очень быстро. Неужели я уже такой старый, что не успеваю уследить за всеми его движениями?)

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Я постараюсь в будущем сбавить обороты для стариков.

[@davidwillard7334]

Sounds like quite an Absolute LOT ! Of Pine Tar ! You Clearly Have !!

[@grekor3100]

Donde lo compro. Ocupo uno

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

taigtools.com :-)

[@gangleweed]

Hi, I have to wonder what the advantage of a collet headstock would be. For a start the collet needs to have an EXACT diam to accurately grip a piece of material.....over or under a few hundreths (metric) and the collet is not gripping all along the diam. I would think a 3 jaw chuck with a slack register mount is 100% more practical for gripping any diam you can think of. The slack register method allows you to have a pseudo grip true chuck that suits any chuck without the high price of one. Also, the 3 jaw has a far greater capacity for round stock. I hate to think what you would do if you wanted to go to a 4 jaw or faceplate situation...…..probably replace the whole headstock?...……..is that for real? Lining up a headstock in 2 planes over 150mm is not a job you want to do every day especially when you are busy with work.

[@CurtVanFilipowski]

Have you used a collet headstock? Its night a day over 3 jaws! Collets also have a much larger grip range then you think, none of my stock is precision ground and all gets held VERY firmly and without marring like a 3/4 jaw system. You can also get collets in every flavor of the rainbow (oversized, undersized, metric, imperial and emergency). I have a spindle that mounts into a 1" 5C for when I want to spin the 4 jaw...but I avoid it like the plague as 5C is just so much more production friendly.

[@gangleweed]

@@CurtVanFilipowski Short answer....yes, I have used a collet system…..I have a capstan lathe with a collet holding system...…..for my regular centre lathe I would not fit a collet system ever.....my 150mm diam 3 jaw is accurate to .02mm on concentricity on all diams and the chuck is 30 years old, never been reground ever.....I have the experience of 60 years on machinery to prove my claims......BTW, if you cannot imagine a 3 jaw chuck can be accurate to .02mm then you haven't machined for a living.

[@TheTruth-fs2rm]

@@gangleweed The idea behind the 5C headstock has more capability than a 3 jaw chuck by far. The Taig 5c has a 17 mm 3/4 threaded Arbor option that allows for the use of a 3 jaw and 4 jaw chuck as well if one wants to use jaw chucks. Pretty much turns the lathe into a horizontal milling machine with a milling attachment. Run that on your 3 jaw chuck. Also we are talking about a micro lathe here.

[@gangleweed]

@@TheTruth-fs2rm I can't agree with you....I have the 5C system on my CUTTERMASTER tool and cutter grinder and I know the limitations of a collet system. A collet system only has capability to hold exact sizes accurately.....a 3 jaw chuck for general purpose work is more versatile.....BTDT. Anyone who designs a micro lathe with the 5C collet system is off his trolley.

[@Dodi-nz3fd]

@@CurtVanFilipowski , Please provide the address of the dealer/distributor of this machine, in *Indonesia* .

[@1stooge782]

Did you do some speed or somthing

[@davidwillard7334]

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[@davidwillard7334]

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