The Music Industry Has A REAL Producer Problem...

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@user-xh3dc7dz2b
@user-xh3dc7dz2b Жыл бұрын
What should we do now... I'm confused as fucc
@CurtissKingTV
@CurtissKingTV Жыл бұрын
Build up as much value as you possibly can independently. Work with and produce artists at your level and begin creating a catalog. Create instrumental albums/beat tapes and release them on streaming. Start building a strong, recognizable, and stickable Frost One brand down from the color and tone of your movement to the dos and donts of your tribe. Keep in mind that this is a longer route that most people won’t stick around for, but those that do create something undeniable. This way if you do decide to engage with the record labels you have more leverage to bring to the table to negotiate the deals YOU want..or you can just walk away and keep building on your movement independently #DIY 🛠️
@MoKroosh
@MoKroosh Жыл бұрын
Make music. There's a million ways to produce music.
@user-ed3sc9zv7k
@user-ed3sc9zv7k Жыл бұрын
I agree with expressing the aggression especially in our industry but, how do u know when to step up and make a move? That's why I'm with u on education is everything learn and swim or sink and die my errors of trail taught me how to do everything from the get! I wouldn't have it any other way, cause who knows when the people ur working for just one day pull plug and ur left passing in the wind wondering what did I do? Meanwhile these mothers fuckas are eatin sizzler on ur time and money 💵 ya feel me!
@smurfonthetrack9085
@smurfonthetrack9085 Жыл бұрын
I mean hit boy wasn't wrong but I'll collaborate sometimes but sometimes I'm with the wrong producers and it kills my creativity
@maddhousepro7659
@maddhousepro7659 11 ай бұрын
Keep making music!!!
@FonkedUpProductions
@FonkedUpProductions Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is only in hip hop is the term producer confused and lost and misunderstood
@ehlohimwhil5762
@ehlohimwhil5762 Жыл бұрын
Im paying for THE BEAT -- not per producer . If my budget is $10K for a beat, that is FINAL. It's up to the producers to split that however they agree
@RealDLMusic
@RealDLMusic Жыл бұрын
Makes sense, can't argue with that.
@Phresh1Kyd2
@Phresh1Kyd2 Жыл бұрын
Literally how it’s sposed to go
@wizarddaddy47
@wizarddaddy47 Жыл бұрын
10k? Shidddd
@ronniesnakehissiii9413
@ronniesnakehissiii9413 Жыл бұрын
Prince = Played everything on most (if not all) of his albums IIRC Quincy Jones = had the vision & hired bands/instrumentalists Both are legendary for their music production. Kanye (via sampling w/ the ASR & MPCs) started out mostly like Prince in a way, then turned into a Quincy... Same with Dre. Somewhere , everyone forgot what "producer" means ! But like Curtis said, education and folks will do it "wrong" & "right" depending on who's griping about it.
@bimrebeats
@bimrebeats Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Quincy Jones also mastered the trumpet, composing and conducting live big bands before becoming that type of producer.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
Indeed, both are valid types of producer. Thank you for comparing them without putting anyone down.
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
​@@bimrebeats Yeah, Quincy was classically trained. How many of his contemporaries were *not* though? How many top producers started out as _failed_ musicians, or worked their way up from recording engineers?
@lewishamel8788
@lewishamel8788 Жыл бұрын
I hear you, Quincy from that musician’s musicians jazz era tho, classically trained, as someone else mentioned, and operated in circles of extremely qualified professional instrumentalist and musicians, these new guys ain’t like that.
@kippinthemix1401
@kippinthemix1401 Жыл бұрын
5 people on one melody is crazy. 5 people on one beat understandable. But one melody. Yea that's crazy. That means close to 10 people some touched this record before it gets to distribution
@jamesjr2550
@jamesjr2550 Жыл бұрын
Not to crazy to me since I cone from New orleans where jazz bands are everywhere
@kippinthemix1401
@kippinthemix1401 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesjr2550 lol, we're taking about multiple instruments compared to 1 melody. Not the same
@PierreJamerson
@PierreJamerson Жыл бұрын
Honestly 5 producers on a beat is crazy
@doubleahitmusic
@doubleahitmusic Жыл бұрын
All facts! It’s always been about the money. What makes this extra annoying is that you have people like Danjahandz who’s arguably responsible for some of Timbaland’s biggest hits or Scott Storch who’s been the key (pun intended) behind other super-producer’s hits but they weren’t pushed as one of the producers on those hits. There’s enough room for everyone to eat when you move with integrity. Collaboration is integral to the music industry and can’t no one prove otherwise! This one man band mentality needs to die.
@timpeaux3023
@timpeaux3023 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the one man band mentality died with the super producer era. Most of the music you hear nowadays has multiple collaborators on it even with the bigger name producers, basically things went back to the way they were before. As for Scott Storch he's always been given his proper credit as an contributing musician on keys from Dr. Dre to whoever, with the exception being the beef over publishing splits from Cry Me a River. To me being a musician on a project doesn't necessarily make you a producer on that project. Lastly Timbaland never hid Danja, you may be able to say that about some of his other mentees but he's always been open about what he coproduced with Danja, as well as the music Danja produced by himself.
@doubleahitmusic
@doubleahitmusic Жыл бұрын
@@timpeaux3023 Thanks for the perspective! Just so you don’t get my comments misconstrued, I wasn’t saying Dre or Timbo were hiding a Scott Storch or Danja, but the perception typically is that producers like Dre or Timbo are the one-man band. People like you and I that read the liner notes like it’s their favorite novel know this to be true, but we’re the exception, not the rule.
@shyxlo4727
@shyxlo4727 Жыл бұрын
i don't think it's strictly a money issue. the problem is, when you have 5 producers to make one beat; it's a headache to get that many contributors to agree and sign off on splits, mechanics etc. then you have the issue with these loop/sample makers that are trying to strong arm once they get the loop they sent out placed. i've heard crazy stories of loopmakers asking for 50% of the publishing, and not signing off until they get it. it's crazy. i just never understood the need for that many collaborators, only for a beat to sound like one person made it. it's a dirty game, you have people stealing loops from each other and passing it off as their own. the problem is that the new generation of producers just isn't dynamic enough, everyone's copying and biting the same sounds.
@chrisdorsch9754
@chrisdorsch9754 Жыл бұрын
House music producers and other dance music producers do it all. Alot even mix and master their own records. There are two many Beat Makers and not enough Record Breakers.
@QuesoPeso
@QuesoPeso Жыл бұрын
Like you said Curtiss it's all bout money. Now that we have streaming and no CD's with credits inside the Cd cases we forget that the songs we grow up on had about 5-10 people on it if they read the credits.
@dr.beaulab
@dr.beaulab Жыл бұрын
ya'll niggas never heard of BANDS. Where people actually play and collaborate on MUSIC together ? !
@coachserg88able
@coachserg88able Жыл бұрын
These dudes are remedial. If there was anyone listening to these type of conversations there would be no Quincy Jones and Michael Jackson records.
@aldali724
@aldali724 Жыл бұрын
🤔🤔
@the77th
@the77th Жыл бұрын
"Nobody Cares! Work Harder" - A wise man.
@bigdre824
@bigdre824 Жыл бұрын
I just found this channel a few weeks ago and I LOVE the content. As a 44 year young fan of ALL genres of music from Carson, CA with hip-hop at the foundation of my passion, I can't say enough about the interesting variety and level of detail provided in these videos, and he is entertaining to watch which is so important. Congratulations on finding your lane and keep up the great work.
@CurtissKingTV
@CurtissKingTV Жыл бұрын
I genuinely appreciate that. Carson is my hometown. Graduated from Analee & Curtiss 🙏🏽 glad you’re enjoying the content
@bigdre824
@bigdre824 Жыл бұрын
@@CurtissKingTV WHAT!?! I grew up on Fernrock right across street from Curtis
@CurtissKingTV
@CurtissKingTV Жыл бұрын
@@bigdre824 yup! That’s crazy. That’s where I get my name as well. I used to stay off of Hillford.
@NF-ru8on
@NF-ru8on Жыл бұрын
This why I like the concept of a 'band+crew'-as-collective. This ego based style of making music is just the Market (the money making game) having infected the culture of making music. Last year I had the privilege of going to a live show led by pianist Robert Glaspier. There was a drummer, a bassist, a guitarist, a sample-master, and three rappers who also sang. Shit was absolutely 2 hours of straight 🔥
@benschmidt1353
@benschmidt1353 Жыл бұрын
If being a real music producer can be just making calls and directing people without ever even touching keys or drums then whatever but I respect musician producers the most, the purity is unmatched
@og951
@og951 Жыл бұрын
I prefer i producer that does everything from scratch
@SwishMajor
@SwishMajor Жыл бұрын
Rick Rubin said it best. when we are creating we need to leave ego at the door, seriously though all of this is about the money and nothing else. if you look at Astroworld that Lp has a lot of credits but the final product is well-loved. IT IS ALL ABOUT EGO AND MONEY
@MatrixxSoundlab
@MatrixxSoundlab Жыл бұрын
There is no right answer. Some producers and producer/artist combos have a unique sound that theirs. In some case a group of producers work well together to create something special. It's whatever it takes to move the song or songs forward. The only time I'm not a fan of multiple producers is when I hear a bare bones, incredibly simple track (with 5-6 people working on it). Makes me wonder what each person actually did. LOL
@RealDLMusic
@RealDLMusic Жыл бұрын
Why can't you do both? Collabing is a great way to network with people you may have never met and it's great for creative growth. And if you want the title that bad of sole producer on a track, then do that too. We just wanna make music... and money. lol Dope video.
@sniffglue
@sniffglue Жыл бұрын
I'm commenting before I watch the whole video because of the introductory clips of Nav. Nav's ego, when it comes to production, is so inflated due to 3 reasons. 1. Back to Back 2. Beibs in the Trap 3. Making a career as a rapper by producing for himself. I don't know why he speaks so much on production when he hasn't made a beat by himself since he got on. On top of that, if he were such a great producer then he'd be a bigger artist. On top of that, he has some of the greatest relationships in the game for any artist, from producers to engineers to artists. Don't get me wrong, he is a really good producer and a lot of his songs are great from a production standpoint but it's also very safe. I believe there are some rules to always abide by when making music but as long as you work around those rules and learn how to bend them then everything is free range. The best beats I've ever heard Nav rap on were beats by Wheezy, who is someone who works with a lot of loop/sample makers, makes ALOT of "mistakes" and just does whatever feels right to him (that's what it sounds like a lot of times). "Friends & Family" & "Young Wheezy" are without a doubt or debate the greatest beats Nav has ever rapped on or even been a part of.
@nvisionbeats
@nvisionbeats Жыл бұрын
I hear a lot of what you’re saying and agree no one should gatekeep how you do things - whatever gets the job done ✔️ but from what I was hearing from the clip of Nav wouldn’t the producers just be splitting up their royaltys between them even on the master isn’t it whatever is allocated to the producers anyway (in a Major situation) so what he’s saying can make sense because you hear of stories about people holding up the release of the record until they clear it or get their big cut - so I hear both sides and i’m careful who I collab with it’s easier when the business is done right and everyone has set ways of working and all in agreement. But again that’s just one view - have to view it all and decide how you operate in the industry.
@Arsonloke
@Arsonloke Жыл бұрын
I do all my shit from scratch so do my other producer homies, but we a little older. I know a lot of younger cats who just use loops and samples n have 5 people on one beat like God damn.
@Gamervidsman2000
@Gamervidsman2000 Жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with that entirely, the problem is them not knowing who they need to contact to get something done. So there's clearly a lack of understanding and communication, that and time is important. Contacting multiple people isn't what you want to do. But some of the most popular songs is produced by more than 1 person, and mixed/mastered by more than 1 guy. The mix engineer isn't even always the recording engineer too.
@BigCore-
@BigCore- Жыл бұрын
Beat Maker = Artist. Producer = Scientist. These tasks access two different parts of the brain. Some are lucky to be able to do both. Business = part law / part accounting and is yet another discipline.
@Aliengroover
@Aliengroover Жыл бұрын
Great video, King! 100% on point! I may still stitch/remix this, but the mention of ego and money bears focus as I JUST mentioned the former in a convo and alluded to the latter. Listen, if someone contributed to some beat/song/whatever. especially "identifiably", gone are the days when a Clyde Stubblefield gets ZERO. A lot of these young artists and producers are arguing over 5-10% of nothing. That's money AND ego and they got some of that listening to these big names. Some of them dudes are mad contradictory.🤷🏾‍♂️
@mrbennett
@mrbennett Жыл бұрын
5 people on a beat is not a problem and is as old as time. There are many parts of a song that could each benefit from specialization. You can have multiple instrumentalists each contribute an individual part of the whole music. You can also have mixing and mastering engineers who are separate from the producer. 5 people on a single melody though is just cumbersome for splits and licensing. When you look at what each man adds to the melody, it may not even be much. It's like it's just a game to see how unrecognizable from the original sample each person down the chain can make the final product. One may simply reverse the sample, the second chops and replays the slices into a simpler, less inspiring melody, while the 3rd pushes it a few semitones down and washes it with reverb, and so on. Too many hands spending too much time adding tweaks that do not justify their inclusion to the project. One person can do all these much faster. If you really want to help your guys eat, finish the work faster on your own and just put aside a percentage of your fee/royalties for them.
@RealDLMusic
@RealDLMusic Жыл бұрын
I have seen this in action. And it's kinda funny to me cuz it reminds me of the step by step guide you get when you buy Legos. The first scenario is the ideal scenario when we're talking about collabing. For example, I have a friend that plays bass, I might ask him to record some bass for my beats. Or ask one of my sisters to record some vocals I can chop. But I also understand tryna work to get that paper... but it's time consuming.
@oljones31
@oljones31 Жыл бұрын
Low key, they don’t want to pay young producers. These guys come in with beats… then an industry dude will tell his team… make something that sounds like this. I have seen placements for beats that were sampled from looperman for free from major artists. Everybody wants their money, but that industry guys, don’t want to pay young dudes unless they are on their team.
@trvf7053
@trvf7053 Жыл бұрын
“ If a producer don't take off his tag, I'll do it myself and I'll remake the beat” - Nav When I heard this line, I was like 😮😳😂😂😂 Nav wit the finesse.
@Izraelthealkemist
@Izraelthealkemist Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the insight and different perspectives. We need the knowledge to know how to navigate this industry 🙏🏾K.I.P
@crnkmnky
@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын
I think part of what's changed in the past 25 years is people receiving writing and production credits for things that would've only earned a session musician wage in the past. Heck, how do you even define "session work" when you've never been to an actual session before. Compare the credits on Michael Jackson albums that were self-produced to the albums with Quincy Jones. The later albums had more "one-man beats," but also more songs that passed through multiple rounds of producers and musicians. I wouldn't call more people being compensated for small contributions a bad thing…
@shawncharles6077
@shawncharles6077 Жыл бұрын
Thank you but not just for this video. You keep it a buck and give great insight. Salute.
@NaydeMusic
@NaydeMusic Жыл бұрын
1:10 aaahhh now I understand why they all have 10 producers per tracks... it's because these producers aren't musicians... now I understand why music is so simple nowadays, where are the Quincy Jones??
@lemluvah
@lemluvah Жыл бұрын
its not that hard do business but its hard to make people stand on business. whoever you are if people are to respect you.. you have to make them stand on business by negotiation and that negotiation reflected in a contract. the narcissist wants to you to be afraid of the conversation about contracts or knows you will never bring it up. Alot of people in the industry are incompetent leaders or prey on the less knowledgeable under the guise of building a relationship. the term "work for hire" has to be used more. if you cant afford to pay people what they are worth.... you make up for it with percentages in the royalties and equity in the business of the songs' publishing. buyout in the copyright world looks like 10k+ because your paying for ownership & control. there are reason why things get priced a certain way. the intellectual property business is expensive. for example As a photographer you might as well give me royalties every time the image pops up on a service or pay me a yearly licensing fee. a work. for hire or buyout contract will look like $4000+ minimum. i cant say there is a producer problem. its just a knowledge and awareness gap. its hard work and the majority dont like that. just had to get that off.
@DjR3aper
@DjR3aper Жыл бұрын
1:29 i never looked it that way. However it be 5 producer spliting up the 1%-3% they get off the song. NAV if i remember correctly, started as a producer first so he comes from a geniune place. Khalid on the other hand releases the song as his song with features.
@hahathatisfunnybro
@hahathatisfunnybro Жыл бұрын
I kinda feel like its just lazy to pay someone else to do a certain part for you (unless you dont know how and cant figure it out) I obviously cant afford to pay other people to do things for me but whenever i need to add something and i dont know how to do it, i always end up figuring it out in the end and now i have a new skill i can use and improve on. I feel like taking shortcuts like that only leads to stagnation and you will never improve and learn.
@sportsshooter2940
@sportsshooter2940 Жыл бұрын
Bro this must be old. Because now it's just drag and drop. You don't need to hire anyone anymore. Drag drop add some reverb. Eq this. Compress that and in a fraction of time you gotta beat. It's not very difficult and I'm dealing with irony. Back in the 90's and early 2000's, let's say drum patterns, I don't sample, it took forever and learn tricks to use plug-ins. I was one of the first in my area to use midi. Man I loved it. I could do even more crazy ish... as time went on, here's the irony, I wanted the drag and drop. To me it's the journey to the final outcome. The work and frustration to get something you like and people like. Man that's the best part. Now and I get it, time is money but the the work the creativity seems gone. You can make a beat in minutes now. But those who compose music still, Prince mentioned it.. those folks are legit. They know both worlds. They need those short cuts not folks like.... idk the Island Boys 😂😂😂😂
@dabeatsmiff
@dabeatsmiff Жыл бұрын
So right!
@gmusichi2400
@gmusichi2400 3 ай бұрын
When did collaborations become a necessity in an age of technology where one person can do everything?!? I think of each collaborator having their own shade of color, when you get more than 3 to 5 more collaborators - the sum of all the colors become bland and opaque - where everyone sounds like everyone else. But that’s where the money is and you get what you get- very slow progress of the evolution of music. It’s forced brainwashing that collaboration is a necessity. There was a time when you had way more unique music in every genre when there was 3 or less collaborators per song. Often the most memorable songs had one songwriter.
@whoopdewhoop7154
@whoopdewhoop7154 Жыл бұрын
I like the topics of your channel. No stupid gossip BS. Just straight talk.
@benschmidt1353
@benschmidt1353 Жыл бұрын
nav is right tho, we don't need 5 guys to screw in a lightbulb(or do a melody) its overkill and waters down beat, gangbangin that melody for no reason then they each want cut and need a manager to keep track of that mid beat
@PoltergeistClassics1
@PoltergeistClassics1 Жыл бұрын
The "Detailed Education" part is crucial.
@liberodoggo707
@liberodoggo707 Жыл бұрын
this guy just went straight to the point! he an absolute accurate detective
@kagisanobokala8154
@kagisanobokala8154 Ай бұрын
Tell the truth, Curtis!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@okaydmuzikkk6771
@okaydmuzikkk6771 11 ай бұрын
I believe the reason why producers do this now is to get placements at once. Its all a money thing for the rapper and the producer/ Engenier.
@sikcmode8169
@sikcmode8169 Жыл бұрын
DJ Khaled producing a burger- Chefs get the job done, if it's gettin a cheesemaker with you in there, sometimes i gotta call a farmer in , a gardener in, sometimes I gotta call a guy that makes buns🤣
@j.englishprod
@j.englishprod Жыл бұрын
Preach!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@pavethewayshow9146
@pavethewayshow9146 Жыл бұрын
There is no industry
@ricardotolbert1797
@ricardotolbert1797 Жыл бұрын
Rappers don’t treat producers right…we literally the OTHER HALF of the song.
@jghosttheconscious
@jghosttheconscious Жыл бұрын
Call em out bro 🔥🔥🔥
@mycryptolingo5974
@mycryptolingo5974 11 ай бұрын
I remember DJ Toomp no longer wanting to work with Kanye because you spend a lot of time working on a song and when the final version is released, there’s tooooooooo many producers and beat makers getting a slice lol
@zillzultraboy
@zillzultraboy Жыл бұрын
Just look @ Nav… Case closed. 😂🤦‍♂
@benschmidt1353
@benschmidt1353 Жыл бұрын
its not just about money its about purity of the final product, thats why rap is dying because beats lack identity like they used to have, Navie D did a video about it called the decline of hip hop
@beatsbybeto
@beatsbybeto Жыл бұрын
Speaking out the truth !🙏🏼
@xxkingdunnxx5009
@xxkingdunnxx5009 Жыл бұрын
If they only split the money with the people who make the music it would be so bad.
@Spittin_Bars
@Spittin_Bars 11 ай бұрын
Its not hard to learn to play a little drums, a little guitar, a little piano. Its a beat, not a symphony.
@TheLobMob
@TheLobMob Жыл бұрын
*Quincy Jones didn’t play ONE note on ‘Thriller’. Q is still ‘GOAT’ status!* 🐐
@tracksphantom540
@tracksphantom540 Жыл бұрын
Well done Curtiss King !!! Keep them coming.
@deepeyton
@deepeyton Жыл бұрын
Facts. All this talk is about gatekeeping
@Neroda
@Neroda 11 ай бұрын
And there we have it Folks! The producer argument debunked in 8.06 mins. @CurtissKingTV we salute you!
@d.michael372
@d.michael372 Жыл бұрын
Some beat makers are producers and beat makers. Some producers can’t make a beat for shit! And some of those producers have the biggest names in the game!
@musiclearner8634
@musiclearner8634 Жыл бұрын
Bro what now !! I know how to play almost everything :). Now I'm learning to produce 🧢👍
@CITYDAGR8
@CITYDAGR8 Жыл бұрын
3:03 it’s a difference be producing a track and collaboration between 5/6 different producers.
@Ruzbeatz
@Ruzbeatz Жыл бұрын
facts!!
@JayGutierrez-bs5zs
@JayGutierrez-bs5zs Жыл бұрын
Sweetz bestz out of Dallaz they cold w the beatz..out of plesant grove in Dallaz TX
@TheBoyAustin
@TheBoyAustin Жыл бұрын
Subscribed 👌🏼
@LOWSKEEJAMES
@LOWSKEEJAMES Жыл бұрын
Im like hit boy I don't need or want 5 people on a beat... ?I don't evan see how 5 people get on a beat.... Crazy
@wahterr6281
@wahterr6281 Жыл бұрын
It's so funny because 95% of rappers are completely talentless and rely solely on their producers carrying their career.
@RAPSNINO
@RAPSNINO 10 ай бұрын
Real producers , PRODUCE their creation or their PART of a CO-PRODUCTION. Not hiring other ppl. To me, that's an ARRANGER. YOU DO ARRANGEMENT.
@alibanmusic1174
@alibanmusic1174 Жыл бұрын
It's be called a piano....play it 7 chords
@casondabeat1183
@casondabeat1183 Жыл бұрын
Knowledge is power seriously
@C12omega
@C12omega Жыл бұрын
curtis were in the multiverse
@kingtmh
@kingtmh Жыл бұрын
Amazing video Curt 🔥
@KiIlDraco
@KiIlDraco Жыл бұрын
they got a point tho a lot of these rappers like nav hop on basic beats anyway, so i really don't see the point in 5 people on 1 beat. but there is def circumstances with certain artists where it needs to be multiple ppl, it be seeming like ppls homies just wanna give out placements more times then not
@RuslanKD
@RuslanKD Жыл бұрын
W take
@MultitaskingGuy
@MultitaskingGuy 11 ай бұрын
0:58 yes
@roksoulo
@roksoulo Жыл бұрын
it's a simple answer. STop giving your music away. If you create it, have the vision and confidence to create songs/albums with artists you curated. on the Other hand- if you are a so-called "producer" then stop using other people's body of work as yours
@pressureteamtron
@pressureteamtron Жыл бұрын
You a legend and videos like this are why !
@justam_ess
@justam_ess Жыл бұрын
youre dope bro keep goin'!
@jahhjojo
@jahhjojo Жыл бұрын
Valid my good sir I like what you have to say
@casondabeat1183
@casondabeat1183 Жыл бұрын
6:49💯🔥
@nyukechen
@nyukechen Жыл бұрын
I’m ngl as a producer if your not playing a live instrument I don’t really need you.
@Brennus_foster
@Brennus_foster Жыл бұрын
Curtiss... thank you for saying it's partly to make young producers insecure... as a producer/rapper/and artist, these guys are constantly creating fake rules to make others insecure. its so annoying and I've quit listening to the noise
@prodbycashtro
@prodbycashtro Жыл бұрын
They gon say whatever they gon say.. no rules in music just do what makes you happy. I’d rather have a placement w 2 other producers than nothing
@YurTruth_Music
@YurTruth_Music Жыл бұрын
CRABS IN A BARRLE
@DjR3aper
@DjR3aper Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail lol
@dj51562
@dj51562 Жыл бұрын
Tired of always being right/ahead of my time..people used to look down on me for using fl studio..now everyone loves that shit...used to look down on the fact that I felt I shined the most as a co producer...now it's standard place and y'all hate it...just let the creatives create man...
@shakeywithlife
@shakeywithlife Жыл бұрын
You ever going to write another book big dog?
@Easybelievist
@Easybelievist 11 ай бұрын
Idea...how bout Nav learn to make his own beats
@chettas_
@chettas_ Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Eddierath
@Eddierath 10 ай бұрын
Then when their beats get ripped by nobodies they weep bra 😂😂😂 it's dam shame bra.
@jdproductions3646
@jdproductions3646 Жыл бұрын
To answer navs question it’s because they play an instrument better than they could and because they want their fam to eat plain and simple
@_jjcaballero
@_jjcaballero Жыл бұрын
Collaboration is key. I mean some dudes have friends who help out some do it themselves, we all gotta eat and there’s enough for everyone so 100000% facts on the idea that these dudes are spreading mixed messages muddying the water so indie dudes like us stay as “employees.” Sounds like Quan and Nav trying to be CEOs rather than artists
@_jjcaballero
@_jjcaballero Жыл бұрын
Also, I grew up playing in and producing bands…. I mean same arguments happen with splits all the time. Hip hop isn’t changing the game or anything, it’s perpetuating capitalistic pursuits in a market that does seem like if we democratize and socialize it better would work better for all musicians. Instead just infighting like every other industry, robbing each other while the ones at the top rob all of us blind (distro, labels all that.)
@freeddie2007
@freeddie2007 Жыл бұрын
Let me listen 🤔
@tommyrblk
@tommyrblk Жыл бұрын
Dude Khaled came the closest to explaining what a producer does and it's gate keepers that's muddying the waters that got people today not even knowing what the producer even does in the studio I'm going to simplify it for you guys the producer's role in music is the same as a director's role in film the producer in music directs the artist and coordinates the musical elements to create a homogenous feel basically setting the tone and vibe of the recording now days it's a construction project with no foreman for a targeted direction just people adding parts that's why a timberland record or dr. Dre's and The neptunes, Quincy Jones,Kanye West they are and were more consistent at hitting the Mark than a lot of today's so-called beat makers called producers that knows absolutely nothing about vocal arrangements, instrument arrangement with some totally ignorant of song structure even though a lot of producers that I had named may know how to arrange vocals background and certain instruments they sometimes bring in a arranger for a different flare not to write but to transcribe a particular idea to speed up the process so if anyone check my reply that I am spitting facts and giving them u a foundation of knowledge to work from and study on not any convoluted Bullshit...
@Tunez650
@Tunez650 Жыл бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@najee2123
@najee2123 Жыл бұрын
Have these dudes ever heard of an orchestra or symphony with band combined!!??? Lmao music has ALWAYS been a collaborative effort smh 🤦🏾‍♂️ this why our parents hate us lmao
@false-set
@false-set Жыл бұрын
Based
@NickWealthy
@NickWealthy Жыл бұрын
I agree with NAV. Having 5 guys making one melody it's wrong af. Like damn yall not creative enough ? 1-2 or max 3 people on the melody it's ok. But if you and 3 other people cant come up with some dope melody then are you really a producer?
@BlinkBeatz777
@BlinkBeatz777 Жыл бұрын
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
@QuesoPeso
@QuesoPeso Жыл бұрын
You just opened up the flood gates🎵
@LucidDreamsBeats
@LucidDreamsBeats Жыл бұрын
I make my own melody mix and master my beats proceed to make a art video post it oh yeah find a damn title.. and PEOPLE think i have a team 😂 god dammit no wish i do
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