The 'SUSPICIOUS' Sudden Rise Of 4BATZ?

[@jmbeats3308]

4Batz story whether you believe he’s an industry plant or not (I think he is) serves to prove how selective the industry is. It also shows the minimal amount of effort needed to blow up and this pattern will continue to inspire younger artists to replicate these behaviors instead of trying to make their career authentic.

[@zainjolalbum]

THAT was the point. No Indy artist will ever be able to recreate THIS. WITHOUT the LABEL and BOTS. FORCING you sign. 💰💰💰💰💰💰

[@llsss777]

Fr and that’s why talent shows exists

[@tonyroguemusic]

Yea a lot of this is bots but as long as it’s not 90% of his streams Spotify won’t take down anything

[@drjonesey5]

The streams be fake also​@@tonyroguemusic

[@GankTown]

I wanna hear bro perform live and see the crowd reaction when they realize that’s not his real voice pitch 😂😂😂😂

[@OhitsGeo]

Funny thing is I’m born & raised in Dallas Texas and I been a Hiphop fan since I was a kid. I keep my ear to the streets and I frequent concerts and nightclubs. I ain’t never heard of 4Batz 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@makemusicmike2002]

Wow 😲

[@SuperArt7]

He also hasn't done a live performance yet either....kinda odd when you got a song that blows up like that

[@daequansmith215]

No one has 😂😂

[@DonnealOffical]

He sound like a copy of Brent Fiyaz… the only thing is the “ shock value “ of him in a Ski mask with that light voice… they brought to life that one skit “ when the music video doesn’t match the song “

[@bluecafe509]

Yep...Sounds exactly like him except with a weird voice and not as good.

[@PuffinPass]

It would not surprise me one bit if his voice is 100% done up in post to sound like that. Its a shocking gimmick for sure, but it has no lasting impact outside of that. The lyrics are pretty weak overall and aside from being a "vibe" it has nothing to come back to. If he lasts 5 years I would be very surprised.

[@DonnealOffical]

@@PuffinPass yeah there’s little to no longevity with this gimmick. They’ll probably have him use his real voice after the buzz dies down or he’ll just disappear

[@DonnealOffical]

@@bluecafe509 yup very true, the production style shouldve been a dead giveaway similar to that guy who made that “ wait for me “ song that took over tiktok he sounds just like Brent

[@DonnealOffical]

@@joshbeck1456 oh yeah 😂, I forgot about that one. He won’t be doing no live appearances that’s for sure

[@joshuasmith9499]

They know art is powerful, so they want to control it and make it only possible to go through them.

[@obsidianlane2101]

Exactly!

[@Dr.G.Productions]

Independents is the labels in a ski mask.

[@vibes340radio]

Man, I just listened to this dude and man, this is the new Milli Vanilli. That’s clearly not that fool singing😂😂😂😂😂😂. Y’all too gullible😭😭

[@MLandPRO77]

Extremely suspicious.....but, not suprising.

[@Chamberlain98]

What’s crazier is all these pages including this one making the same video about his suspicious rise giving him even more shine 😂

[@CharlesHolt]

I mean, they gotta eat! lol

[@Cakebattered]

But more music listeners will know what to look out for when the next plant is propped up.

[@Crytycal]

true cause I never heard of him till this

[@mikechek23]

If you say so. This video nor the others don’t make me play his music tho

[@Chamberlain98]

@@mikechek23 me neither but you cant deny the marketing is genius

[@DShawnPaytonOffiicial]

This video made me realize that I need to get on Amber Baker's radar. Once she hears my voice, I'm gonna end up on some project she has. Thank you for making this video!

[@shawnbreeze]

His rise is interesting. He claims to be from Dallas. I'm from Dallas (Oak Cliff specifically), and I've been in the underground Dallas music scene for years. I've performed at many open mics and have never heard of or seen him. It's weird.

[@solowkeytv]

Where he from in the Cliff?

[@corey3107]

I feel like that about the rapper Logic. He wasn’t out in these DMV streets like you would think.

[@shawnbreeze]

​@@solowkeytvI'm not sure. I've never heard or seen him in the scene. I've performed at Dallas Open Mic and the Underground Open Mic a lot. The scene is kinda small, and I've never seen anyone from the scene post him. It's suspect.

[@xfacta334]

@@corey3107 that's because Logic was the 1st exposed new era plant. I was really into his early work and his rise was inspiring to me. I go do more research to soak up some game then low and behold he's in an Hot 97 interview just casually dropping that he was signed to Def Jam the entire time and explaining how the label wanted to try this "new Indy style marketing" with him. To my surprise I couldn't find anybody talking about it. Circulated that clip through all the forums trying to make the blogs pick it up.....nobody except DJBooth would touch the story until WAY later after his debut. Shit rigged.

[@luxuryrapchannel]

If this is what this era gets hype about. Music is in trouble

[@jerrylanes8354]

Music been in trouble since ppl crowned jayz the best now nobody is original

[@tecno8335]

He's definitely being pushed by the machine. No doubt

[@salanejuniorndabane4426]

Thank you for this video bro

[@therealdondubb]

LOL you getting to good at this!

[@CurtissKingTV]

🤣🙏🏽

[@Yolisten28]

I love what you are doing Curtis

[@joanie-music]

More and more I'm realizing it's very important to understand the 'words' people are using in the conversations they present. Same as in law. Definitions of "terms" are everything. In the case of 4Batz, their definition/understanding/use of "independent" is not quite the same as the layman. There's an artist grant being offered by The 100 Percenters. They use the term "commercial credit' in their list of qualifiers. How the 100%'ers define that word is very particular, compared to how others in the industry do. It's important to keep an eye out for words and definitions, how others we're choosing to interact with are intending them and using them... and not to take anything for granted, at our internal assumed definitions or understanding.

[@tommyrblk]

This is the new version cap of the actor or actress being discovered in the drugstore remember there is nothing new under the sun...

[@bearingcee]

As a person who turned down several record contracts. I would like to say i admire what you stand for and the content you create for independant music artist.

[@steelokey]

What labels you turned down? 😂😂

[@bearingcee]

@@steelokey capitol/blue note and a bogus outfit called Gorilla Productions. The latter would host band battles and give devlopemental record deals. We went as far as signing with Capitol but things got weird.....

[@JarardKenneth]

I know i should but i legitimately felt away, cuz its ridiculous. The lot of have been doing this for years and this basically couple of things: "Work harder", "Figure something out", and/or "Quit". By all means we have to do the first two

[@astargmoneynevaendz999]

Four bats spawned in like a npc rapper with someone/something backing hin

[@natemakesbeats2138]

59 fifty when from making snap backs to making rappers

[@xJussBE]

AYE KING!! YOU KNOW ScHoolboy Q dropped your name in the recent Drink Champs?! He references a time when we first pulled up to the TDE STUDIO and they played a song you made!! Totally unrelated but I had to tell you dawg!! 👏🏽👏🏽☝🏽

[@im.1renz581]

No 22 year old is bumping 50 Cent, Mint Condition, Tupac, Miguel and Chief Keef. Seem like pre made answers.

[@xfacta334]

Lmao I was crying at that list. Maybe 1 or 2 of them inspire you that much but that list is TOO random.....

[@ausarfilmproduction]

Bro u hade me dying 😂😂 I mean I know now LMAO 💀🤣🤣 Great Episode On Indie Vs

[@minime.ge_]

What’s really crazy is he got 10 million streams in 3 months and spotify didn’t mark it as fraud

[@dothangbui4918]

why would they

[@minime.ge_]

@@dothangbui4918 was more so making a joke about spotify taking down artists like Ben Jordan. But in general if you or i did 10mil in 3 months on our first release i’m almost positive spotify would flag it for fraud. Not saying anything about 4batz the music is fire spotify just be acting funny sometimes

[@who_is_dis]

Maybe i'm alone on this but ... Some of his songs have a decent vibe to it... But there's really not much to it, so what's that leave? The visual gimmick and social proof? idk man.

[@jchrismusics]

This is free publicity. We're all part of the roll out and the plan. As more people react, the more he becomes bigger and more famous and the more people want to chekc him out, the more streams and the more he just keeps growing. He damn sure ain't indie in any way. To many connections with just three songs is like find a toothpick in a haystack

[@zainjolalbum]

Kevin Hart of MUSIC!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@kevincooper5656]

🤣

[@MrMartellSincere]

Lol 🤣

[@maudest]

This I feel actually deserves a secondary and larger conversation around why this is wrong. It’s blatant , too blatant of a setup - and the unfortunate thing about this is there are now a TON of younger artists who are being driven in the wrong direction. I.e. -> So now all I need is a job at Burger King, and I can just work hard at my music and tomorrow I could get an endorsement from Drake and Ye… if I’m good enough or get could enough that same thing will happen to me; so they actually sell themselves short thinking that’s all they need to do. It’s all very strategically orchestrated. But just like crazy bones talked about the rap game shifting long ago to drive young men into privately funded and owned prisons by endorsing gun violence, etc. now they are misleading young artists the same way by leveraging this “organic” come-up story. Because the actual come-up story, when it is real is magnetic. Had to state my peace, as a fellow independent artist who’s done an EP with Riff Raff, a Single with Styles P, features with Mick Jenkins & Caskey - so I’ve been able to peek into the industry and done it all myself and I’m still here by myself, because to build a team like that takes muscle beyond what you can fathom. So many things need to align for stuff like that to come together. I love music, I have given my life and sacrificed many things for my music, like relationships, resources, money, time, life, etc bc I respect the music, I respect the grind, I love music (unfortunately - bc it doesn’t pay) with my whole person… so stuff like this sometimes doesn’t sit right with me (not that it’s wrong) it’s just horribly disingenuous, and the story they tell us is to be honest and genuine on socials because that’s how you suppose to come up. And let me tell you, it doesn’t end up looking like this… so then in a world where vanity numbers and social currency is everything you’re counted out before you could even get in the game, because you’re playing the game by the rules… to me, It’s just hypocritical. Smh . All love tho at the end of the day. The rich get richer. It’s all is a game , and life is but a dream.

[@iengineer_247]

From the resources and basis you've touched and keep touching it's going to show others what to do and what not to do. For the most part some things are being seen that hey if you take this on this is what such and such expect or will expect from you in order to make it. On the other hand being independent still means be responsible as you take on your own way of doing things.

[@jevan40]

Be afraid, be very afraid of sudden success….

[@steelokey]

The quicker they rise the harder they fall 🕳️

[@Des_Armoni]

This is incredible ngl wow 😂 it’s like leaving bread crumbs and hiding in plain sight. So hes an industry plant and they’re playing on it. Brilliant

[@geneva1040]

How do we know whether or not the industry is playing with the view numbers to make it appear that 4batz has a lot of views?

[@loumontgomerytv3948]

Great video man. Nothing in this industry happens by accident.

[@mrr5835]

The dude that looks at his headphones 😂 Really interesting point about how the "instant come-up" becomes something people look up to.

[@xcreenplay7264]

you think it's bad now wait till AI comes out an independent artist

[@kylerichardson7302]

Back in the day these industry plant rappers had no chance as a matter of fact a lot of these rappers now a days wouldn’t have a chance to make it big

[@urbannuance5151]

You kinda don't know what your talking about. Most industry plants have been vetted for talent. Kind of like an A&R would do in the 90's

[@Zay-cd2zv]

​@urbannuance5151 Lol I'm glad you made this comment so I didn't have to shit it was way easier to be a plant back then because it was harder to research them people just went with what media told them

[@beforeilay]

Nah back then you either had to audition, be found, or know someone. With talent ofcourse. Labels had to take a chance on you cause there wasn’t no social media.

[@magillsk8]

Back in the day to get into the business you had to be an industry plant so to speak… someone had to let you into the industry

[@Zay-cd2zv]

@@magillsk8 Big facts lol

[@THE_MZA]

I just want to hear him singing live.

[@LEELBANGERZ1930]

That’s the power of PR’s

[@j4crypto4all1st9]

Dats crazy extremely noticed that part once you get to asking?? Who is that your almost a fan in advance regardless 😂

[@obsidianlane2101]

@21:34, whose the Kazarian holding up the devil sign

[@BarkingForBroccoliBG]

I saw this video on the Whosdope Instagram stream done by Shaq's mix engineer I think the engineer told him to change his image to match his vocal in order to succeed 😅

[@biscaynesupercars]

It all depends on how you define a plant but it seems like someone is just carefully curating and recreating the same type of buzz the weeknd had when he 1st came out

[@mrwhite-180]

Didn’t Lil Nas X come out of nowhere as well?

[@1pyroace1]

Yep

[@ThomasSmith-nk3zy]

He is a blatant plant

[@beenfrank]

🤔💭😳

[@Crytycal]

Its some AI Milli Vanilli s**t

[@soundofthegardenwatc]

Not just an industry plant. Souls are not just getting sold but groomed

[@anthonywalsh93]

my only question is then does anyone know what terminology would be used of an artist that is “unsigned” to a “record label” but yet had a “major label” as a manager? because you can clearly have a big time manager but not have a big time music deal? or did i miss it all and thats one and the same thing and that makes them signed from the get-go? lol

[@elrail713]

He’s definitely a plant. 3 months and he got 10 million listeners and a drake feature?? When has he even did a show to perform his hit?? I know the flim flam when I see it

[@solowkeytv]

Dallas, TX ayeeeee

[@Jozeflee742]

That's a AI voice. He capping and cloud chasing.

[@steviesummers380]

💯 sounds very robotic

[@dbsweeney2010]

I’m sure his management has relationships with Spotify through her work with the majors. This growth will work if you generate streams from within Spotify. This is essentially a “Plant”.

[@MulahVeli]

Who tf is 4HATZ?

[@Drfresh1402]

So I just listened to this artist because of this video. Rest assured, the person we see is not the person singing. There is no question about it. No need to discuss. It's genius.

[@corbanjohnson8694]

Imagine if it’s ai 😂

[@Drfresh1402]

@@corbanjohnson8694 I had that exact thought. But it is a little too human to be ai.

[@xaveonthebeat]

I haven't heard it yet (besides in this video) though I'm assuming it's just post production (simply raising the pitch of the regular recorded vocal) exactly how 24hrs the rapper does it.

[@Drfresh1402]

@@xaveonthebeat interesting. Never heard of that rapper.

[@xaveonthebeat]

@@Drfresh1402 Watch his video with Ty Dolla Sign "What I Like" lol it's pretty smooth

[@peacepocket]

4BATZ is a AI artist. He hasn't done any interviews and no-shows. I don't believe he exists!

[@nomnomnom7564]

That outro 😂

[@tempskibeats]

The intro though😅

[@RoninTheBlackFox]

Everyone with a record deal that cannot sing, write, rap, produce, blah blah are plants. Simple as that.

[@mandinent.]

My nigga is this da right song, or am I trippin ? killed me, lmao😂😂😅 6:45

[@ericm6633]

Fake like Drake. Bunch industry plants in the game faking the funk fr

[@astroblack11]

Good insight

[@mblackman1170]

It’s not his real voice, it’s pitch up to give a chipmunk effect.

[@MrCreditMoneyBudget]

It’s calculated for real

[@NuOriginal]

Do you think these rappers that are now coming out as cousins are coincidental?... Nepotism is real.

[@drjonesey5]

Duh lol

[@double0music]

Or… this is genius (and simple) marketing… Curtiss this just feels like the blog era, just on Tik Tok. This happened every month back then. The juxtaposition between pooh sheisty mask and high pitch voice is just internet gold. And it’s reacting as such. If every major label employee could make an artist pop… maaaan

[@Smerzone]

Does dude do shows? Come on. Where the fans?

[@BValofficial]

Why do so many people care who's an industry plant or who's not? Why do people even care who's indy or not? Is the music good or not should be the concern. They did what anybody with half a brain would do, had a gameplan, used their contacts, use whatever bread they had and hit the ground running. Yeah most people's stuff ain't gone look like this, but as is life. The people with the biggest problem don't even put the ground work in for their own stuff, just lowkey be envious imo

[@obsidianlane2101]

I think you raise some good points on why can’t we just enjoy the music… HOWEVER you’re not in the least bit intellectually curious as to how certain artists sprout so fast .. that is SUS AF!! it’s like GMO vs Organic . . there’s an agenda, and anytime people want to have a discussion it’s too easy to say you’re being a hater ..it’s intellectually lazy AF! I see how our people got conquered 🙄🙄

[@MrMartellSincere]

​@@obsidianlane2101 today's people don't think for themselves at all

[@mauriceholmes7932]

AI with a physical avatar

[@artblack01]

That is straight up a woman's voice not a falceto voice. Can you say Milli Vanilli?

[@shaheed313]

I think they’re using 4batz as an example to show independent artists who control the music industry and that there is still benefits to being signed to a major label. All they have to do is flip a switch and you’ll be up 80 million streams

[@TheyCSmith]

Ppl been using this effect on their voices. Tyler , Brent, Kendrick. I don’t get it.

[@Xdidx777]

Bruh immediately got to work after the freak off

[@kriscarrdublr]

you put that shit ooooon god

[@JonnyRootsDem]

They cloned Tyrone scenario

[@nebstaism]

The new milli vanilli

[@bearingcee]

Several factors go into the young man 4Batz monthly listeners and the large play count each song has on streaming services. 1. The Sound and Look are unexpected. 2. He does have a team behind him. I personally havent clicked his spotify but from what i dad in the video three tracks are well under the tyoical 3.5 minute radio edit that has been the industry standard for ages. 3. Smooth beats 4. Short tracks 5. Catchy voice and hooks. Could be a new direction for music and songs. The short tracks is a genius idea. Think about it... If the track had a sweet hook you'll listen multiole times especially if it's a 1 and a half minute track...

[@thomasmorgan1086]

What if this artist is doing what his manager telling him to do when it comes to the Music, but it is not his Art. What happens when this cover story starts to fall part?

[@CurtissKingTV]

Then we will make a reaction video to that as well 🤣

[@Tigrey44]

Why is no one talking about the real elephant in the room? Is that really his voice or is it AI/ pitched up? That's the real question.

[@xaveonthebeat]

"AI" and "Pitched Up" aren't necessarily interchangeable terms today. Pitching up vocals, like 24hrs the rapper does, is done simply by the engineer or whoever pitching up the original recorded vocals. AI is not human and a whole buncha other shxt. I assume this is just pitching.

[@phanatixtawkshow169]

So we act like we're promoting independence but as soon as a independent artiste streams is matching up with sign artistes . We discredit

[@HOODLIFENV770]

What the f***😮😅😂😂😂.

[@C12omega]

Okay, weird. He's from Dallas, TX, so he's never done an open mic or local radio show, yet he blew up from only three songs and is signed to Drake. Hmm, all power to him, but that's strange.

[@the-lil-x]

Youll never here from him again he signed with drake he gonna be a ghost rider at best

[@chrisjohnson8262]

Yeah could be. All starts with ghost writers, then high finance. Imo, I always felt like I admired the ghostwriter because that is where the bangers come from. Personally, I prefer to fly under the radar and not to have the excess attention. It disrupts my creative chi

[@SteezeeWorld]

KING!! 👑 Schoolboy Q just gave u a shout on Drink Chanmps!! 💥💥💥

[@mbmbeatzent.]

He's one of those sofi robots

[@iambxrd]

24 hrs walked so 4batz could run 💭

[@trewalktv9202]

I sent messages to 4shooters they ain’t never respond lol

[@prodbyrichmorris623]

The craziest part is, I think it doesn’t fall on the Artist anymore the trend of the tone if you notice a lot of low tone artist were the one that’s popping out now that agenda is completely switched. Of course, Brent Faiyaz is the one to thank for it, but they don’t want to give it to Brent Faiyaz they want to give The craziest part is, I think it doesn’t fall on the Artist anymore is the trend of the tone if you notice a lot of low tone artist were the one that’s popping out now that agenda is complete switched of course Brent Faiyaz is the one to thank for it, but they don’t want to give it to Brent Faiyaz they want to give the push to someone fresh I feel like I don’t think it’s an industry plan I just think that’s the person they boosting more because we all like his tone

[@AckieleeAi]

Correction, I wanna say my two cents. I couldn’t wait till the end of the video. I’m sorry, but this is obvious that he has an imprintdeal a.k.a. this is when you have a big backing of a label, but you’re still independent. You’re not sign. You just have the backing of a label like RCA, which has ties with Sony. It’s not look that he found his manager last year. I was in a group full of artist like this, but you don’t have to take my word take this guy‘s word and making a video but if you do read the comment like it, please give you information you didn’t have before that’s my two cents

[@cyybot]

i think you are already doing what they want you to do, promote there works, and hence, you are the pawn here KING

[@Lambosmercy]

The real video is supposed to be how Kanye sees out of that mask

[@AndreAdvocate]

The white guy is also an amazing music industry lawyer named Matt Buser.

[@Touchcinity]

A.I Milli vanilli. Look it up. Human visuals, Artificial vocals and production

[@darrellhicks9024]

Reminds me of the RMR guy that came out of nowhere.

[@Rustykahli]

4Batz reminds me of RMR " Dealer"

[@tavonlee4533]

He sound like akon

[@peoplelikefrank]

Tough guys, masks….. and a 6 year old singing 🙃

[@Shazzyhtown]

Yea definitely an industry plant lol. But now that those major label layoffs took place, we will see more of these. Those former employees from UMG probably still have their contacts. The two tiers of homegrown independent vs unsigned with major contacts will grow.

[@OhayoNeil]

You ain’t beatin the allegations when your manager is on RCA🤷🏿‍♂️

[@candidatesalmon4291]

It is remarkable marketing and that’s all it is

[@MrMartellSincere]

I never heard of 4bats