Custer's Last Stand | Part 9 | The Death of Crazy Horse

[@eshaibraheem4218]

I don't want this series to end. It has engaged me like no other.

[@shonaokane7321]

me as well

[@d.m.6397]

Hello. Native Wyomingite here. We say prounce it like Nezz Purse in our area. Regardless, thank you for telling our history so well and so sensitively. We have many areas in our state names after Chief Joseph, Sitting Bull, Red Cloud, Crazy Horse and of course many others. Brings me to tears hearing of their plight, every time.

[@tommonk7651]

I've been to the Black Hills and the Badlands a couple of time. Just beautiful country. The long term and long lasting effects of these actions are tragic and still very evident today, nearly 150 years later.... The poverty, destitution, alcoholism, etc., are still very rampant.

[@tomtaylor6163]

I enjoy these very much. Please consider doing a series on the Comanche. Here in West Texas they ruled the Roost and in my opinion were the most formidable Tribe

[@mechtainted]

Wonderful series chaps, love the deep dive into this story. Crazy Horse's death on the floor was heartbreaking to listen to 😢

[@scotharden5286]

Absolutely riveting! Just discovered your channel and can't get enough. Thank you so much for doing this. Your story telling ability is second to none as is your ability to bring history to life. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

[@belalkhanfar3838]

''What I return to most often when I think of Crazy Horse is the fact that in the adjutant’s office he refused to lie on the cot. Mortally wounded, frothing at the mouth, grinding his teeth in pain, he chose the floor instead. What a distance there is between that cot and the floor! On the cot, he would have been, in some sense, “ours”: an object of pity, an accident victim, “the noble red man, the last of his race, etc. etc.” But on the floor Crazy Horse was Crazy Horse still. On the floor, he began to hurt as the morphine wore off. On the floor, he remembered Agent Lee, summoned him, forgave him. On the floor, unable to rise, he was guarded by soldiers even then. On the floor, he said goodbye to his father and Touch the Clouds, the last of the thousands that once followed him. And on the floor, still as far from white men as the limitless continent they once dreamed of, he died. Touch the Clouds pulled the blanket over his face: “That is the lodge of Crazy Horse.” Lying where he chose, Crazy Horse showed the rest of us where we are standing. With his body, he demonstrated that the floor of an Army office was part of the land, and that the land was still his. Crazy Horse was my gran’father!''

[@johnnyallen5736]

Just found this channel---you two are awesome--keep telling the story!!! Thanks.

[@MegaMarlo1]

I wish they would do a modern movie about this battle! That would be awesome!

[@JonathanSparks-ht4vq]

@@MegaMarlo1 Steven Spielberg could produce this movie. The only conditions would be to make the movie from the perspective of Native American point of view

[@davidholloway1817]

There is a fairly good TV 2 part version called, "Son of the Morning Star," taken from the book of the same name & supposedly an accurate account. It certainly includes many of the events spoken about in these talks. Son of the Morning Star stars, Gary Cole as Custer, Floyd Red Crow Westerman as Sitting Bull (Ten Bears in Dances With Wolves) & Rodney A Grant as Crazy Horse (Wind in his Hair in Dances with Wolves), along with Rosanna Arquette as Libby Custer & David Strathairn as Bentine. Though dated it is well worth a look. Son of the Morning Star was the name given to Custer by The Crow (or Absaroke) on account of his tactic of attacking camps during the early ours of the morning.

[@shonaokane7321]

Just read " The Journey Of Crazy Horse" written by Joseph M. Marshall III. A really good read about Crazy Horse the man not focused on the Little Big Horn battle. Worth reading to anyone interested in this subject. Love this series, so well done.

[@chrisbotelho7212]

Great job. Very entertaining, well told.

[@WargamingHistory]

Cracking work guys, loving this series

[@MarkGreen-uy9em]

Brilliant series chaps. 😊

[@alehhandro1]

Have to say, these two guys are awesome!

[@richardcutt727]

I visited the LBH battlefield in April 1993, for 1 week. Drove through Lame Deer reservation thinking i would find a cappucino and a craft shop. What I saw there was disheartening. A ruined people, an unfolding tragedy.

[@Sean-fb7cy]

Thank you for this iv just found your channel

[@erikj2738]

You two are magnificent.

[@the_tyler_vaughn]

Great series!

[@BobJones-g7t]

It always troubles me when the bodies / and conditions of George Custer and Tom Custer are glossed over…. which they kinda do here. A few things::: 1. GAC wasn’t respected or honored by the Plains Indians (PI). There was NO reason for them not to mutilate his body unless they weren’t sure of his identity. There is the apocryphal story that a PI woman put awls in his ears because he wouldn’t listen. And an arrow shaft in his penis to shame his body. But in my opinion, this is taking the facts (the condition of GAC’s body) to fit the story. GAC was a hated enemy. If they truly knew his identity on the battlefield (btw, there were several officers that either wore full buckskins or partial buckskins in the battle, including Tom Custer), there is no doubt that he would’ve been fully mutilated. 2. Speaking of which, Tom Custer’s body was wreaked - head caved in, limbs mostly cut off, scalped, shot, gutted, deep slicing wounds down to the bone, pierced with almost 20 arrows (which happens when the hatred of the PI is so strong that even after their enemy is dead, they just fill the body up with arrow shot after arrow shot.) Tom Custer’s body, which was only yards away from GAC, was so mutilated that he was only recognized by the tattoo of his initials on his arm. So why was TC’s body wreaked, but GAC’s body left relatively unscathed? To me, there are 1 of 2 reasons: 1. Tom Custer was a 2 time Medal of Honor winner…which is practically unheard of. He was known as an unlikeable son of a bitch. And an absolutely demonic soldier. So it is entirely plausible that TC was such a barbaric and deadly fighter in this battle that after he was killed, the PI’s wanted to completely destroy and degrade his body. Yes. That’s possible and plausible. Or, 2. It’s even more likely that his maniacal battle prowess led the PI to assume/believe that he, in fact, was actually GAC. It should be noted that GAC’s hair was cut short before the battle. And TC’s hair was long. It is certainly feasible that the PI simply confused the 2 similarly dressed brothers. Hence, the vastly disparate treatment of the 2 bodies.

[@JonathanSparks-ht4vq]

The story I’ve heard was that the penises of the white soldiers were removed and placed in the mouth. The Indians believed that doing that violated the body to the point that the spirit could not cross over. GAC was such a showboat, arrogant and cocky. That arrogance dates all the way back to West Point where his cockiness from flouting the rules almost got him kicked. And he graduated last in his class. He finally got that ticket punched when he went up against Sitting Bull deservedly so. I say he had it coming

[@tommybell]

Or 3. Both of the above… they saw GAC take his own life with his gifted 41 caliber revolver as confirmed the next day by Dr. Porter They also saw TC fight to the death

[@Beez-k7v]

Seems to me, the Indians were at that time, in a frenzied state of mind, so it's likely they mistook TC for GAC. Hence, they mutilated TC. Not likely any of them had ever seen either brother up close or in person. Their mental image of GAC was a white man with long blonde hair, and according to some, GAC had cut his hair before the BoLBH. 😊

[@JonathanSparks-ht4vq]

@@BobJones-g7t GAC wasn’t respected by Terry, Reno and the rest of his crew. He was that much of a fuck. GAC literally had his mind made up that once he won this campaign to get rid of the Indians, that it was like God ordained that he was going to win 1600 Pennsylvania Ave and become POTUS. I say Custer got what he had coming to him and Libby milked his name for profit til the put her in the ground.

[@JonathanSparks-ht4vq]

@@Beez-k7v yes the Indians were in a frenzied state of mind. Custer was coming in to steal the land away from them and I don’t blame them. Custer got what was coming to him.

[@ollyp7495]

I once went to Miles City in the great plains of Montana, and thought it was named for the fact that you can see for miles. Turns out, it was named for General Nelson Miles.

[@Wee_Langside]

When i was a young lad in the early 1960s I read a story about Chief Joseph led his band of Nez Perce who he led towards Canada and Sitting Bull. The were forced to surrender less than a 100 miles from 'safety'. I seem to remember that the treck was over a considerable distance.

[@badxxxmonkey5541]

I will fight no more forever

[@anthonygiancola190]

Would you please do a documentary series as long and as detailed that shows the actions taken against the tribes that didn’t want to be murdered?

[@alehhandro1]

Makes me wonder if that was the reason all along for Sherman and Sheridan to insist on Custer command.

[@justme8837]

I don't think they realized how many "Americans" there were. As much as I believe that things will always change, that this is life, it must have been so sad for them to know their lives as they knew it was over.

[@richardcutt727]

There is a spiritual dimension to the battle of the LBH. The night of the 24th June at the Busby encampment the officers of the 7th serenaded Custer as he sat before his A tent. The last song was a hymmn. The Doxology. The officers did not get a sleep that night and half of them were dead within 18 hours.

[@dashiellrohan981]

You should tour Fort Robinson and Agate Fossil beds National monument, lots of great Sioux Artifacts.

[@michael_e_news]

The famous note to Benteen, not only says, “Bring packs,” but a post-script reiterates, “Bring packs.” (You can find a photo of the original online-complete with a transcription in Benteen’s hand on the same paper.) As noted, “hurry” and “bring the commissariat” are contradictory. Like heading out for an evening and saying, “It’s time to go, but stop for a haircut and shoeshine.” Given the known expenditure of ammunition by Reno’s battalion, and the double emphasis on bringing the packs, it seems logical that Benteen wouldn’t ride forward without the pack train in company.

[@Beez-k7v]

Custers orders to Benteen were desperate and confused. How was Between supposed to hurry if he had to wait on the pack train and then take wagons to Custer's location? It seems to me that the Indians overran his position almost as soon as the rider turned and galloped back to Benteen. There were more than enough Indians to crush both Custer's and Reno's troops. And evidently, they did so at or about the same time.

[@davidholloway1817]

It is interesting that you mention Crazy Horses many visions. Apparently the said horse in his & his father's name was a spirit horse seen in a vision. The Crazy in their name alluded to the "weirdness" of this horse rather than anger or madness. Also I have seen in the made for TV version of the book, "Son of the Morning Star," & read in other sources that, among his many visions, Crazy Horse foresaw he would not be hurt or killed unless held by one of his own people. This seemed to come true twice. The first time was after he took another man's wife. The man came to a lodge where Crazy Horse was & confronted him. As Crazy Horse rose to meet the man, another man restrained him & the disgruntled husband shot Crazy Horse, wounding him in the cheek. The second instance was where he was killed, when a well meaning companion held him back for his own good.

[@richardcutt727]

Sitting Bull said that he prayed to the Great Spirit and made offerings of tobacco in little pouches on a high point just east of the LBH river - the day before the battle. Perhaps on Weir Point. Custer may have ridden over them en route to his demise. Perhaps the offerings were placed on Last Stand hill. Nobody knows.

[@dashiellrohan981]

Also Black Elk Speaks is a wonderful tale transcribed by John G. Neihardt. Mari Sandoz Crazy Horse is fantastic as well.

[@richardcutt727]

Great series. I reflect that where the buffalo roamed, before man came to America, there are now nuclear missile silos. I truly believe that the Americas, that place of immense pristine beauty, was better off, much, before tye arrival of homo sapiens, and certainly before the arrival of Europeans. In only 500 years an entire ecosystem destroyed. Replaced by hydrogen bombs.

[@BH-kg1wu]

You can thank bombs and American for defeating the Nazis and Japanese. None of that would have happened under this land left to the Indians. I am not demeaning them, but it's a sad but true movement of history. Unfortunately, not everything is fair in this world.

[@ToddSauve]

I have very much enjoyed this series Tom and Domenic! You have done a better job of covering this material than the vast majority of Americans. But it seems to me, and I have watched all your episodes, that you have not availed yourselves of any of the works of the best historian on this subject and that is the recently deceased Robert M. Utley. Why is that? Among those who know this subject matter he is still recognized as the one person who did the best and most thorough research on this material. Perhaps you did look at his work but you have never cited him on your podcast, yet his biography of Sitting Bull, "The Lance and the Shield; The Life and Times of Sitting Bull" is still _the_ standard work on the subject! You have deprived everyone of a plethora of information about his life by not referring to him and his vast body of work. Utley worked as a US National Parks Service ranger at the Little Bighorn battle site for six years and then worked as the Parks Service's chief historian for many years. Finally retiring from that he spent the rest of his life writing and researching on the subject of the Plains Indian wars and many of its principle figures like Sitting Bull and Custer. Anyway, if you, Tom and Domenic, do read the comments section here I would like you to explain if you have used Utley's works and for which sections of your podcasts. Thank you once again for this wonderful series on this subject. 🤠🤠🤠❤❤❤

[@vaquerojoe1976]

To hear this history from a European's view is to take the blinders off this American's colored view of the Indians wars.

[@kathymitchell7896]

How do I see the final episode on the last stand?

[@JonathanRossRogers]

43:39 Hurrah for Canada!

[@RichardCampbell-z1g]

a great irony: various conservation groups including tribal report there are now about half a million buffalo in the United States. Rick

[@Terinije]

I'd be curious to hear a side-by-side comparison of the American response to Little Bighorn and the British response to Isandlwana.

[@mackenshaw8169]

Apparantly the Sioux called the Canadian border the medicine line.

[@tballstaedt7807]

The Souix were invading the Crow homelands the Crow were untited with the army to expell the Souix.

[@CinRife]

Im sicangu aka burnt tight or brule either way I'm Lakota ...I find this a bit interesting 🤔...

[@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf]

For all the revision of plains indians that turned them into hippies read books like Empire of the Summer Moon for one. Rape and torture was endemic. The way of life. Done to other tribes well before the whites showed.

[@Cowbellrunner]

Please provide that source of information of your statement.

[@barbararice6650]

Uneasy death heaps blood on the land, the past is a terrible necessary substance 👈😕

[@Terinije]

If you want to get a good deal of Rutherford B Hayes love, visit Paraguay. They have an entire province named after him.

[@9Epicman]

Any chance of Dominic making an "Adventures in Time" addition using the information from this podcast series?

[@topcatgo]

Can we have Part 2 please?

[@charlescasey9799]

Sitting bull crucifix was given to him by father desmet a priest bull was not a catholic he was an Indian with his own ideas of spiritualism but wore the cross because he thought of it as a good omen

[@csmtcqueen]

Although money is not enough. This is why I wish the Native Americans get everything and more from their casinos, oil on their land and all that is richly due.

[@christopherhall1336]

Maybe someone could expand on the cost of the Indian war. The presenter said it cost $1 million dollars per Indian. That can’t be right can it? I tried to check on line but i can’t find the answer easily.

[@joristurk]

Sweet

[@rschiwal]

It wasn't a stunning victory. They were far better armed, had far superior numbers, more advanced weapons and knew the lay of the land

[@Beez-k7v]

It was a victory for them. Custer snatched victory from the jaws of defeat. He should have waited on Gibbons, Terry, and Crooks. They could have achieved the objective that day had the Indians seen all the troops on Reno's Hill. They would have withdrawn like they did after the battle. Evidently, Custer had something he wanted to prove that day. I think Grant was correct. Custer was always a bit rogue. That's where it ended.

[@bsastarfire250]

This is so sad. Never been to US, but spent some time in Australia with aboriginal people.

[@mackenshaw8169]

All the Sioux wanted was to be left alone to grill.

[@johncanzoneri4771]

As your Boutica, she went on a rampage, burned, murdered her way over Britania and was totally crushed by the Romans, so was the Lakota way of life and Britains became civilized and peace broke out. Then you crushed countless nations of primitives in your empire and here we are today! Thank you for your language, Shakespeare, Dickens and Newton.

[@Waterhorse1]

Such a great series. Thanks chaps. Any chance of doing a series on the history of the Palestinians? Trying to understand their plight, but so much propaganda to wade through. Would trust you guys so much more than i trust most commentators.

[@us-Bahn]

Wait. What happened to Robespierre?

[@christopherhall1336]

The story of Crazy Horse really is a tragedy and a true microcosm of the overall native Indian story; lies, betrayal, greed, white supremacy and all out extermination. It’s one of the very many tragic tales of history, where one race explores, inhabits, dominates and expands, sucking resources from the land.

[@ms-jl6dl]

1870 you had Tippi and 100 years later you had Apollo. Please...

[@Beez-k7v]

A bit simplistic, isn't it?

[@DarrellHamner]

Did I understand correctly that $1 million dollars was spent on each Indian killed during the Indian Wars? Is that figure in today's dollars or the currency of the time? And what is the time span of the "Indian Wars"? I know the time of the end of the wars varies a bit, depending on your source.

[@midnightwolfee2128]

Not sure on the sound effects lol

[@JorgThimoreit]

... and the song remains the same...!

[@davidcahill7719]

hangs around the fort

[@johnnydavis5896]

It is sad story - its war that should have not happened.

[@Beez-k7v]

But it did happen. Historians can't wish it didn't happen. The army had a reason. They sought to drive the Sioux out of Crow territory. We can engage in all the usual SHOULDS and SHOULDNTS but it tells us nothing about what actually happened

[@johnnydavis5896]

@@Beez-k7v Understanding how easily it could have been avoided is part of the story.

[@dsjwhite]

They did. Listen to the earlier cars

[@stuarthastie6374]

Is that a million dollars in today's money???

[@leerussell9954]

42:00

[@daviddowning2152]

One does not sell the land the people walk upon

[@ms-jl6dl]

Yes one does. Most do for a good price. How about Alaska,Louisiana...?

[@daviddowning2152]

@@ms-jl6dl 🤡

[@johndavenport8843]

Wondwefukky done gentlemen

[@MarkGreen-uy9em]

Best autocorrect ever😂😂😂😂

[@flhxri]

The famous picture of Sitting Bull always cuts off and never shows his crucifix. The Sioux were Catholic. It would have been interesting if they would have stayed mire peaceful and had the Holy See help them negotiate.

[@mirrage42]

Like the Catholic Church and it’s followers were peaceful in their dealings with native peoples? lol. Not very.

[@juergenernst1320]

He received that from a priest and wore it as good medicine. He wasn't baptized nor were the Bible stories read to him. 1980s Madonna comes to mind. 🙄

[@catholicbeth2371]

​@@mirrage42Never heard of St Bartholome de Las Casas?

[@eaton55r]

And still... so little is herd from indians. maybe later?

[@perlefisker]

6:52 It's chilling how this US policy of depravation has remained unchanged for centuries - in recent times by sanctions.

[@davidcahill7719]

bear coat miles

[@marckenny3131]

It's amazing how Red Cloud went from I defiant warrior, to a little cowardly lacky for the whites. While Crazy Horse was a warrior for every daily of his life.

[@GusShredny]

“ for the whites”? What are you..Hunkpapa?

[@richardcutt727]

If Reno had stayed in the timber instead of running there was a chance that the 7th could have survived more of less intact. Not won, but survived, forcing the Lakota and Cheyenne village to retire/escape in good order.

[@Beez-k7v]

Reno's men got clobbered in the timber with no chance of regrouping. The Indians killed many in the timber. This all goes back to Custer dividing his command. Reno didn't have sufficient numbers of troops. The horses and men were tired from the march. And, incredibly, the 7th's firearms were inferior to the Indians. Reno stood no chance of inflicting many casualties in such an overwhelming force, Timber or no timber. Custer should have been reasonably certain of the enemy's strength in numbers.

[@williamminamoto.7535]

Going on 80.. interest in history all my life..Crazy Horse.. of all characters.. CRAZY HORSE Is carved out of a mountain of stone.. the greatest ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️.. memorial ever,, no king.. queen.. president.. there is no greater monument globally than CRAZY HORSE.. all the men who betrayed him.. the Grant administration.,the soldiers .. the people media taught to hate.. our entire government.. all the banker.. turned to dust.. or a faded yellowing page..only CRAZY HORSE stands as a granite mountain.,.. the Missourian artist from the show me State..❤️❤️❤️🤣🤣🤣🤚💡💎⚔️🇺🇸..4:19 AM Tuesday August 20.2024..LA.. 29.055 days on planet earth 🌍..

[@MJ-we9vu]

There were about 50,000 Sioux and 36 million Americans. What did they think was going to happen?

[@JamesFrymoyer]

My aunt is 10 Descend it of Sitting Bull crazy Horse Was the a hero? Her name is Sue Hess. May God above The Great One. Carrie, all of this souls to the great. Home in the sky.

[@amynatzke1050]

Please, the Puritans and the Mayflower!

[@Roman.Leave.Me.2.My.Circles]

Decisive Pale Face Victory. Sucks to suck

[@robertmesser95]

Heap big story, listened for many moons.

[@charlescasey9799]

Custer was at little big horn because he was ordered to get the so-called hostile back on the reservation not to help the crow

[@Beez-k7v]

Getting the hostiles back on their reservation helped the Crow recover the territory the government had "reserved" for them. Which is why Custer had Crow scouts. Unfortunately for him, he either didn't heed their warnings about the size of the enemy force, or he just ignored them.

[@GusShredny]

Compared to how Custer’s troops died, Crazy Horse got off lightly.

[@soulquesthealingmusic2307]

Thanks for being too thick to get the story. Keep on thicking!!

[@GusShredny]

@@soulquesthealingmusic2307 : “ Keep on thicking “? Come back when you can speak English. Mow- ron.

[@soulquesthealingmusic2307]

@@GusShredny Thicking is the act of continuing to be thick when you have missed the point. Being thick, as you are, is like being a d@mb@ss.

[@billystenhouse784]

The battle of Little Bighorn was the first and last podcast I will listen to by you two. Infantile, 52:10 childish, sniggering, laughing at your own “jokes”. The content was fairly basic and certainly nothing new. Grow up, get over yourselves.

[@retiredcolonel6492]

Isn’t a bit hypocritical for any citizen of the UK to criticize America’s treatment of its indigenous people. Our record in this accord is truly shameful and as a member of the Cherokee Nation whose ancestors traveled the Trail of Tears I know first hand the hopelessness and poverty of the First Americans. But, c’mon, Britishers. You have NO room for talk. Shall I list the sites of Britains atrocities against the natives of their brutal conquests: Ireland, the Boer Wars in South Africa and the rape and pillage of the Zulus and the Boers(the British developed the first concentration camps), the Sudan, India, Egypt, Nambibia, to name those of the last 150 years or so. People in glass houses should not throw stones.

[@Dru517]

Yea and now they are going to lose their island to Muslims. The liberal British hypocrisy caused this mass migration.

[@rexmundi7811]

I suggest you follow your own advice. Cherokees have also conquered tribes of Native Americans and committed atrocities upon them.

[@jonathanphillips5794]

They've mentioned the British terrible treatment of native peoples in previous episodes and don't hide the fact that the British empire was brutal at times.

[@ms-jl6dl]

And you were peace-loving,pot smoking eco friendly hippies to your enemies? Don't think so.

[@BingoFrogstrangler]

Ah yes the Boers,such a kind enlightened people please go read the history.

[@10.6.12.]

Sounds like Gaza!

[@cliffedward]

The parallels between the treatment of the Native Americans and the Palestinians is clear.

[@ms-jl6dl]

Please...

[@Myohomoto]

Steady on! I'm half Indigenous American and am totally offended by your comment! Absolute woke ignorance!

[@mirrage42]

You are comparing, I suppose, the horrid incident in October of surprise attack, kidnapping, rape, torture by hamas to the same sort of actions by certain tribes?

[@cliffedward]

@@mirrage42 No! I'm talking about the 76 years of pushing people off their land and virtually annihilating them. Would you call the Native Americans who fought for their freedom terrorists? Open your eyes!

[@cliffedward]

@@Myohomoto In what way is my support for Native Americans offensive? Learn your history.

[@31terikennedy]

Custer was at the LBH because the Crow wanted Army help in expelling the invading Sioux from their lands. The Sioux were a warrior based society that thrived on conflict. Do your homework Brits!

[@Moonman63]

I’m pretty sure they covered all that in previous episodes. Like all history, it’s a little more complicated than the common view.

[@getoffenit7827]

They already covered that,Please watch their other videos regarding tribes fighting over land. These guys make a solid effort at presenting facts and context theres some things they are off but still doing an excellent job

[@31terikennedy]

@@Moonman63 Yep and the narrative is always quick to condemn Custer which is nonsense.

[@9Epicman]

Yep they know, and we know. Also innevitable westward expansion, potential gold, and railroad building. There usually is never only 1 reason.

[@getoffenit7827]

​@@31terikennedy When they have to say 'Custer' or 'Americans' their facial expressions appear as if they've just eaten a bowl of sour grapes..its exquisite to witness their discomfort. To be fair..they usually can be derisive of the brits too.

[@paulfrancisjenkins6483]

Way way too long

[@ToddSauve]

What was too long? If you don't want a deep dive into this material, why did you come here? There are a strange brew of people these days who want a comic book history and are unwilling to expend much effort at all in actually learning what really happened. This same complaint is made by people over Kevin Costner's new Western series "Horizon." The first film is three hours long yet people then start whining that it is too long and the story complicated. Well, didn't they know it was just the first three hour film in a series of four when they bought the ticket? These are silly complaints from a generation with the attention span of an insect. If you _actually_ want to _learn_ a subject you must invest yourself in it. To complain a show is too long shows you are not at all serious in your pursuit of knowledge and understanding. 🤷

[@docastrov9013]

So dull. Are you deliberately phoning in this dreary content?