Custodians REACT to HULK vs BROLY DEATH BATTLE (a reaction we made because we're nerds)

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Rhett, Joe, and Gabe react and discuss Death Battle's Hulk vs Broly video.

[@TheCustodians]

Just so we're clear with everyone. Scaling is absolutely an important aspect to vs's debates. We just prefer feats to them. We don't disagree with the outcome...........but yeah our boy lost we're a little salty😁

[@lightningandodinify]

it’s because death battle must compatibilize rules between different universes. Dragon Ball doesn’t operate on natural rules like DC or Marvel. Ki that permeates the Dragon Ball multiverse affects all attributes of a person, even their resistance to spiritual or temporal attacks. This is why Goku’s kaioken was able to “overrule” the time skip ability that his opponent ‘Hit’ used to beat him up to that point. Broly’s enormous power in conjunction with Dragon Ball’s emphasis on energy attacks made it obvious that an opponent as powerful as Broly could prevent Hulk from resurrecting by eliminating all his cells and thus all ‘gateways’ to return to the physical world with his otherworldly power. Unlike characters like Superman and Thor he can be defeated without weird writing bullshit. This gives us a Mr.Hyde-esque hero with an immense inner struggle and outer power. I think Hulk strikes a balance between these gods like Thor and powerful earthly heroes like Spiderman. Hulk would lose most of his fights against Broly through being overwhelmed with energy attacks and Doomsday Lite kind if superhuman adaptability, but I still think Hulk is a more interesting character because of his nuanced limitations.

[@taecampus]

​@@lightningandodinify not to mention, during their second fight, Hit was literally sending body into a pocket dimension which is why Goku wasn't hitting him I believe. Later during that fight, Goku literally broke through it without Kaioken. Just goes to show you how absurdly strong the DB universe it. It's right up there with DC and Marvel, with how broken the characters are 😅

[@darknessemblemflame3036]

1. Correction to one of your friends. Broly doesn’t simply burn out due to fighting for long periods of time. He burns out after taking significant amounts of physical damage. In the movie itself he was shown beating up Golden Frieza for over an hour without any signs of fatigue or getting weaker.

[@gamers-xh3uc]

He does but really slowly

[@lightnio3359]

@@gamers-xh3uc He get’s stronger the longer the battle goes on. Only high amounts of damage can really weaken Broly… If hulk doesn’t find a way to become at least 100000x stronger IN A FLASH, he got no chance against Broly ;)

[@xavierlehew6746]

@@gamers-xh3uc He literally doesnt fatigue without taking damage.

[@mr.gishere844]

Correction on one of your friends said that broly would burn out quickly meaning his strength would stop growing yes and no broly can only burn out if he takes enough damage which needs to be significant but knowing that off the get go broly is already thousands if not millions of times stronger than hulk the Hulk couldn’t really do anything to stop broly from growing in power this is just a small correction loved the video

[@near4350]

The guy on the left whining about broly winning made me laugh so hard.😂😂😂 Good reaction btw.

[@derrickchavis]

In the Hulk Vs Broly Q and A video they did, they mentioned how big the marvel universe was and after the math Hulks scale went from 120x universal to 96,000x. But it still was way below Brolys power. And the funny thing is that they used a lowball stat for Goku's power to scale broly. They used base goku during the BOG's arc as a basis. But check this out: Base Goku (Moro arc) > Base Goku (Broly Movie) > (Base Goku (Tourney of power) > Base goku (Zamasu arc) > Base Goku (U6 Tourney arc) > Base Goku (Golden Freeza arc) > Base Goku (Battle of gods) = 9x UNIVERSAL The scaling for Broly would easily be several - tens of millions x universal AT THE LEAST.

[@Mojo1356]

He’s likely to be billions times universal as well.

[@koda8096]

Bro It's funny to think that current Goku is possible thousands or millions of times stronger than in the fight with Broly since they escalate to granola that escalated to Broly because of the wish he asked for...and if that broly with a x10 was already the same or stronger than a blue at the time xd ..... well if at least using only current goku and vegeta logic they have to be at least 100 or 1000 times stronger

[@lightningandodinify]

I think even the writers are losing their minds on how to portray the ludicrous power that these characters have now. I just hope we get another season of Super soon 😭

[@lukasruston8618]

@@koda8096 A bit late to this but in the manga during the Granolah arc, before they met Granolah, Whis stated that he doesn't know anybody in the universe who are stronger than Goku and Vegeta, the Granolah arc takes place after the Moro arc which takes place after the Broly movie... that means that Goku and Vegeta have gotten so strong that they could probably defeat Broly by themselves when in the movie, they needed to use fusion and their fusion's strongest form at that.

[@slashkamei]

I mean without the numbers then how would we know if a character is indeed stronger or more durable? The power leveling isn't just a dragon ball thing with Death Battle, its basically every single fight, how fast, strong, durable and so on.

[@TheCustodians]

Oh yeah absolutely. We simply were just talking about how it's hard to represent in the actual story

[@blazethehedgehog1159]

@@TheCustodians can u guys react to flash vs sonic it came out a few months before hulk vs broly

[@winnerloser]

For the guy on the left, the idea behind broly being able to beat hulk's immortality and healing factor is that broly was able to eliminate every single cell of hulk. As far as we are aware, if every cell is destroyed, there is no body to heal, as it was completely destroyed. You also have to realize that DragonBall is insane. It uses universe destruction as a small feat. Now, for the power levels. That estimate they had for Super Saiyan 3 was based of a canon number of 400x of base. Goku's base is equal to his Battle of Gods form, as it is specifically said that his base is now equal to it. So at that point, Super Saiyan 3 Goku is 30 times stronger than World Breaker Hulk. Even if Marvel universe is bigger than the normal one, that comparison doesn't matter because that also doesn't use Goku Blue or Gogeta. Also, the fight is only used for entertainment. They determine a winner by who would win more encounters than lose. I hope this helps. If you have any other questions about it, or if it still seems wrong, please let me know. I'm a big fan of both Dragonball and Marvel, so I'll help anyway I can

[@ramon4184]

Same way how gohan managed to kill cell permanently

[@Aaroncarter95]

@@ramon4184 or goku destroyed buu or future trunks destroyed frieza(yes ik he doesn't have a healing factor but he was still vaporized.) Basically that's how dragon ball gets around killing people who have huge healing factors or they wanna show that character is truly dead, by showing nothing is left.

[@Aaroncarter95]

But yea that would put basically all characters able to fight even super saiyan goku to a tie stronger than world breaker hulk. Let's also not forget base goku gets even stronger afterwards so 30x is a low ball. Considering he was able to tie with a character in just SS Blue he had to use x10 kaiokin on top of blue actually puts base goku even stronger since all super saiyan forms just increase the power of base temporarily. Honestly by the end of DB Super you could probably argue with base goku being able to fight World Breaker Hulk evenly considering he was constantly getting stronger and was God power at the start of it. Yea I don't see it as outlandish to claim broly could kill a supposed immortal. Hell he's clearly shown to be stronger than a destroyer God and i think most characters in DB would struggle to fight him besides higher powered angels and zeno.

[@Mojo1356]

@@Aaroncarter95 this was actually proven wrong in the Q and A. The Marvel universe is actually 2 trillion light years long, so with extra calculations, Hulk’s new maximum potential is 96,000 times universal. While that puts fighters like Goku and Vegeta in a lot of trouble, others like Beerus and Broly still stomp Hulk.

[@Am1nTheSaiyan]

@@Mojo1356 no cuz in the manga goku is possibly million times stronger than Goku in battle of gods movie

[@Nexocidal]

Yeah Dragonball has always been strange with their power and lack of universe destroying feats but it is explained that the destruction they should cause is mitigated because they have perfect control over their ki/strength. So they can focus their power so intensely that it only affects their opponents, the feat of Goku and Beerus nearly destroying the universe is because Goku was figuring out how to focus his strength and he managed to do it after the third punch, the power from their clash sort of canceling each other out. Again it's kind of up to the reader to interpret but Goku despite being naive and childish has been shown to be a genius when it comes to combat. As for God Goku's strength from the first arc being his new base, I don't think its been explicitly stated to be true but it was shown when he lost his God form, he was still able to go toe to toe with Beerus as a Super Saiyan. Beerus states this is because Goku's Saiyan body became astronomically stronger just from experiencing the power of Super Saiyan God and I believe he even states Goku's body is even producing God Ki on its own.

[@flixytip4571]

I think beerus says that Goku made the power his own and that his body adapted to the god form making his base form just a strong as his god form which is why he didnt lose any power. So yea Goku in the base was as strong as his god form. Although they kinda low balled goku, base goku is more likely stronger than god goku from the beerus fight due to how much stronger he got after the TOP and now moro. Base goku is most likely stronger than blue Vegito from the Goku black arc meaning his base would already be enough to wipe out all of U7 not even at full power in base. and i know that sounds crazy but when you look at how strong they got throughout the TOP its not a crazy thought. Vegito blue would of maybe been able to handle a suppressed jiren but still lose, while base goku went from getting the shit kicked out of him in blue to fighting jiren in base and tanking hits from jiren when he was fighting with a lot more power meaning he would of gotten tens to hundreds of times stronger from their first fight.

[@Aaroncarter95]

In some versions beerus straight up says his body absorbed the god power. This is probably thanks to his saiyan biology and kind of zenkai boosts. Basically his body likes the power so much it was able to absorb it, if only a little bit, and turn it into his own ki.

[@MaoriGamerDood]

How did Hulk Fly at Broly after he threw that big ball of green energy at the planet? The Explosion of the Planet propelled him forward.

[@chasesalii5006]

I like how u guys hate facts and number yall tripping if u think hulk can compare to Broly. Hulk has lost allot to people weaker then dbz characters not including main characters

[@c4mprnapper932]

Hawk eye of all people 🤣🤣

[@blazethehedgehog1159]

@@c4mprnapper932 yeah

[@TheCustodians]

A Death Battle reaction? in my Custodians reaction channel? its more possible than you think. joking aside I hope you enjoy our reactions. Next up is our reaction to Star Wars the High Republic "Trailer" reaction. then It's the return of the prodigal son, Black Clover. Thanks for watching.

[@ssjgotenks2009]

by cont goku ssjblue v golden firezaa wood donw the somwe thing as ssjlbue goku si wya stogne thens sjgod goku he fireza nev did that shit so you cant use that goku said it abotu ki conto9rl you do watch suepr right they told you wya shit is not destoyed

[@norbertorivera1733]

Sorry guys broly is the winner

Y’all know they learned how to control there ki. That’s why the planet or the universe doesn’t get destroyed

[@TheCustodians]

Yeah we know that. It's just a little hard to believe that that's happening when Broly is going Great Ape Shit. And while in universe it's hard to believe but narratively it makes perfect sense. Dragon ball fights would be pretty boring if every fight ended immediately with the first trade of blows which instantly eradicated the cosmos they where in. (By the way, this is also a problem in comics. This is not exclusive to dragon ball)

[@Abde-ob9rm]

yes

[@ItachiUchiha_1724]

Why are they so salty It was clear since dbz they have to hold back probably literally 70% their power 😂

[@Mojo1356]

40:22 This was actually addressed in the Q and A for this battle. With the new calculations, it puts Hulk’s maximum potential at 96,000. While that’s great against someone like Goku, against Broly, Hulks is still stomped. As for the Hulk coming from nothing, it was noted in a black box that the worse we’ve seen Hulk come back from was being turned into a skeleton. However, it took at least a year for the Hulk to come back.

[@derrickchavis]

That's not even great for Goku since current Goku is stronger than broly ever since the Moro arc. Goku mentioned Moro 73 was the toughest opponent he faced. In addition, UI Goku was still physically stronger than Angelic Moro even after he fused with the planet and absorbed genki from the earth.

[@Mojo1356]

@@derrickchavis I don’t know anything about the manga after the tournament of power, so I wouldn’t know. Are you saying that Moro is stronger than Gogeta? Did he fight Gogeta?

[@derrickchavis]

@@Mojo1356 No they never fused in the Moro arc. So basically here is the chart from greatest to least: UI Goku > Planet Angel Moro > Angelic Moro > Moro 73 > Broly.

[@Mojo1356]

@@derrickchavis well to be fair, Goku didn’t physically fight Broly at full power with his own Ultra Instinct. Unless Goku did a crazy amount of training in between arcs, I confess I find the idea in of itself far fetched if Goku didn’t have to rely on Gogeta. Nevertheless, was this arc done before or after this Death Battle was released? By the way, guess what Broly’s minimum power is when you do what math you can? It’s nuts.

[@derrickchavis]

@@Mojo1356 Goku trained with Meerus in a hyperbolic time chamber like dimension. Meerus is a trainee angel tier, in other words a low Angelic tier and then Whis being a mid angel tier And finally Great priest high angel tier. So yeah goku did some crazy training within the moro arc so its not really far fetched his power being Greater than brolys. Goku also did more training with whis in the current arc.....Granola arc. He was able to utilize the UI speed and reaction while in base and SSj forms but he did not perfect it yet.

[@GermanKinsmen]

Just gonna add: They were MASSIVELY downplaying Goku by saying his base was "just" SSJ God level. That was his base immediately after his fight with Beerus, and Goku has gotten insanely stronger since then through training. Even if we high-ball the Marvel Universe to being a thousand times larger than our own, the scaling still puts Broly FAR higher than him. P.S. Dragon Ball character's physical strength is literally tied to their ki. That's what it all comes from. It's perfectly reasonable to scale their strength to their energy output.

[@shaghilathar2946]

A few thing to address: The sentry point was wrong but they could have used different scans to prove the same point. As for the regen, yes hulk could survive but the leader needed years to come back. By that point the fights over. Brolys also fought from day into night so his endurance is up their with the hulk. I will say the middle dude is by far the most educated on this. I basically agree with everything he says As for broly to jiren scaling, youre right it is iffy however Golden frieza fought both and said Broly was stronger. Also Brolys strength is tied to his ki, if he can output more energy thats the same as his strength as he uses the same energy to buff his attacks

[@TheCustodians]

Middle guy here. Broly can use his Ki to buff his actual muscles? Is that a broly exclusive or a thing anyone trained in Ki can do? Either way I did not know that and appreciate the heads up. I must have missed it. And yeah If you have to put a fight on pause for a year or more so fhe opponent can "catch his breath" it's now more of a rematch than a continuation of the fight.

[@shaghilathar2946]

@@TheCustodians Yeahs it's not just broly, all dragonball characters use ki to enhance their physicality. Saiyans aren't that inherently superhuman without ki as seen with Goku being shot by a laser and wounded by a gun

[@FallenShadow-rd8im]

Faster doesn't mean anything to strength, you can be the weakest person and probably be faster than a stronger person. Also the numbers are correct and scaling is important. Without scaling then the fight couldn't be even made lol. Good video and all but try and be more open minded than biased

[@TheCustodians]

Oh absolutely. In our discussion I (Rhett(captain's hat guy)) was just trying to explain why scaling can be hard to represent in the actual narative. And while Broly has shown to be a match for characters who have done some ludicrous things, we've never seen him actually do anything close to that. Again, not saying he can't do that. It's just the level of destructive power we have seen from him should be much much higher. Of course this is a problem with Hulk and other comic characters too (if not an even more present issue on their part) Hulk goes from matching hyperion and sentry in combat speed and then a few issues later spider-man is out maneuvering him. Like i said in the video, don't even get me started on the flash. And on the point of our biases. I wanted to make, at least my, personal attachment/investment in Hulk known from the start so anyone watching would immediately know which team i was backing. Even with that though I still thought Broly was going to win. I still don't disagree with the outcome. And besides, no matter who's stronger or more powerful, Broly wins. He's got the hotter girlfriend.

[@FallenShadow-rd8im]

@@TheCustodians nice to see there can be great communication with your audience, keep up your work

[@ssjgotenks2009]

in dbz i dos wya think trunks could not beat cel he was strrogn btu cell was faster cells aiit dont mett hwo sorn you ar if you cant hit your foe your usnless

[@seanritchie91]

A lot of points I was gonna make have already been addressed, but there's one I haven't seen expressed here. The statement that Hulk "doesn't have any known upper limit" does NOT mean what so many people think it means. It just means you can't put a cap on his strength; as he can always get stronger than he is, but it's often misunderstood to mean he's sitting at infinite strength. Therefore, he has the ability to punch or clap with the power of infinity. Incorrect. This is just such bad logic it hurts.

[@llawliet1446]

Ahhh yes i needed salt for my fries haha i love seeing salty ass people 😂😂

[@yurilowell217]

Lol same.

[@TheCustodians]

Without the occasional salt in life. Everything would taste pretty plain.

[@llawliet1446]

@@TheCustodians we also have pepper

[@yurilowell217]

@@TheCustodians True. Glad you understand. Hulk can always make a comeback. In a rematch with doomsday he could possibly win.

[@TheCustodians]

-"Confucius"

[@jtbvoodoo2032]

Love seeing marvel fans getting triggered LMAO

[@marco_cleto1896]

🤣

[@oess855]

Same😂

[@corleydavis745]

Have y'all watched the Ghost Rider vs Lobo or Shazam vs Captain Marvel? Y'all won't be disappointed

[@TheCustodians]

Yup. Pretty good stuff

[@Trill02]

In the broly movie he was fighting for hours the only reason he burnt out was because he was taking heavy damage from ssj blue gogeta

[@fewglow5076]

Doomsday would still win

[@alphawolf7417]

I can understand being upset hearing all the crazy power levels and scaling in Dragon Ball but trust me it is VERY necessary. If they start ignoring that then we get characters from Dragon Ball Heroes who's power is bullshit OP for no reason like Cumber. The dude fought Kaio-Ken x10 Blue Vegito in his base form and held his own, then fought SSJ4 Vegito before revealing he could go SSJ3 becoming x400 stronger.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

One of my Favorite Finales.

[@StormGardenHedgefleet]

The Robot is named DUMMI

[@rowindagangan5696]

one thing why broly win because they put dragon ball in a god level god of distraction even surprise of broly power level that why

[@demiyahnoel5503]

U guys look great together yeah this fights all over! its of the hook! A three man squard is not easily turned down!

[@Sammy_the_best_there_ever_was]

Yeah and cell the regenerated from like a cell and Majin Buu regenerated from nothing

[@dragontamer7897]

You have to get that hulk was disintegrated to the point ashes won't remain so there was literally was no single cell where hulk can regenerate

[@TheLoneLoony]

Kamehameha < Gigantic Omegastorm

[@red81]

The explosion of the planet

[@jeremycook3964]

It’s really funny how the guy on the left is so salty but I can understand why. Yes Broly would eventually burn out but if you watched the movie Broly would catch up to Hulks strength in minutes the only reason Broly didn’t get stronger against Frieza was because he wasn’t a threat especially how powerful he was. It was until Gogeta came along when he started powering up more and that was an hour later. Hulk might have got stronger but Broly had more of a chance to outlast the battle.

[@lessettcaracoza5978]

False to your friend on YOUR left cause YOU CAN use other sayains as an example since BOTH KALE AND BROLY are CANNON yes there powers in practically IDENTICAL. With one tiny change is all. You can't get upset because hulk is weaker than broly BUT there other characters stronger than broly

[@elvastolorde6143]

Se suele infravalorar mucho a los personajes de anime cuando los enfrentan a personajes de cómics, y a estos últimos lo inflan mucho en los versus

[@anshumansingh84]

Bro watch battle of gods again remember that lard beerus (bills) version ...... In Fight of lord beerus vs Goku, lord beerus said that your experience of super Saiyan god power was enough for you to reach it .... It's all yours now .

[@richardburley4321]

You have to understand do they can't die the same way twice Superman had already put him down with sheer brute strength that is why Hulk lost doomsday technically can't die cuz he's not really alive he's actually a living machine with no vital organs or a brain

[@4bros352]

The dragon ball universe is bigger than ours too

[@blazethehedgehog1159]

Yeah

[@terrycrihfield8723]

Think, custodians, think! If Legendary super saiyan broly was weaker than worldbreaker Hulk, that means he was almost on par with Gogeta blue, who is potentially able to maybe beat beerus, a literal god of destruction who is bored of destroying planets. Now, given that the dragon ball Z gogeta in super saiyan beat janemba, who is, by the wiki, "a demon of pure evil and great power. Janemba is the living definition of evil." do you really think hulk stood much of a chance against broly, who at his maximum, overpowered super gogeta, and took hits from gogeta blue without bleeding? and here is another thing to think about, broly in super saiyan, beat the crap out of golden Frieza for nearly an hour and a half, and make both goku and vegeta, in their super saiyan god state, turn tail and run away. It took two super saiyan god super saiyans (ssjb), merged and their power multiplied to beat broly, who no, didnt get knocked into a weaker form, but instead starts to come to his senses and realizes that he's about to die.

[@furynvm]

The reason Broly didn’t burn out was because of how short the fight was. Broly didn’t even burn out after hours of fighting with Super Saiyan Blue Gogeta which is insane.

[@alphawolf7417]

He didn't fight Gogeta specifically for hours. Gogeta can only last a few minutes at most due to how high his power is. Broly was fighting for hours though before Gogeta even appeared so yeah he was already probably getting tired and still held his own against Gogeta for several minutes. That's insane.

[@Cleron_O_Andarilho]

You should go back watch Dragon Ball.

[@marco_cleto1896]

Fact

[@daisukeniwa402645]

Broly is a better character than hulk

[@blo0dysmiles297]

Aaaah i love it when Hulk fans are put in there place with these death battle even better, even after stealing Doomsday's come back to life ability he still would lose. Being he still be immune to all of hulks attacks. Which was the reason he lost the frist time the devil magic only really makes it so he can't stay dead, don't make him immune to what killed him. So not only my man Broly kicked his ass (which by the way he only burns out fast if he is taking lots of damage once in his full power stat which here is confirmed 1000s times stronger then hulk. At that point hulk was legit tapping him) but even with Hulks new power boost he still get his ass kicked by Doomsday. Also stop whining like babies when your given proof. Even if it wasn't measured out Broly STILL would have been fighting a guy stronger then Hulk putting a number on it dont change shit.

[@travisderby115]

Let me ask the crybaby on the left whats more unbelievable hulk losing to someone he physically has no way of killing or him losing to someone who comes from a universe where power is so off the scale there most powerful is the size of a child can wipe out universes with 1 hand and can take universe destroying blasts head on and not take any damage at all

[@supersaiyancarlos]

Immortal hulk instead

[@marcorodriguez8792]

Yeah, Hulk stood little chance against Broly and I was rooting for Broly to win since (in my opinion) Hulk is a boring character

[@AldoTegan]

Your homies kinda biased

[@Am1nTheSaiyan]

Broly solos DC/Marvel

[@tehcookievanilla1323]

Can Broly breath in space? I thought the only reason Goku could go into space was because it was the upper atmosphere or something like that

[@pedromendonca1240]

Broly uses ki barrier to survive, he aways did that

[@tehcookievanilla1323]

@@pedromendonca1240 fair enough, i forget about that

[@blazethehedgehog1159]

@@tehcookievanilla1323 yeah

[@hollow-point8690]

Nice to finally hear a reaction from someone who wants hulk to win. Everyone I’ve watched has gone straight for Broly every time.

[@lucasrodriguez550]

Because it makes sense

[@hollow-point8690]

@@lucasrodriguez550 if you like Hulk then you should watch the debunk video

[@N163D]

Why so salty, he lost. Take the L

[@ramon4184]

Hulk physically stronger? I dont think so lol

[@MrMenace888]

Stay mad

[@TheCustodians]

No Dutch, not you too

[@MrMenace888]

@@TheCustodians I’m sorry son

[@I_break_games]

FYI doomsday is stronger then broly so technically this fight was more fair

[@matthewjohnson690]

That depends on how pissed Broly gets honestly Broly scaling is messy because of his abilities too get stronger Broly has unlimited strength it’s how he’s written Doomsday has too keep on him and cause him damage however Broly can get stronger through damage and blows

[@I_break_games]

@@matthewjohnson690 doomsday beat Darksied before his nerf without taking any damage because doomsday is stupid

[@matthewjohnson690]

@@I_break_games Broly isn’t a normal saiyan either however I do believe Doomsday could kill Broly eventually but they’d be breaking reality too much

[@I_break_games]

@@matthewjohnson690 the way superman deals with doomsday is by throwing him so far to where nothing exists .... Also doomsday has no organs, blood, brains, or anything really... His entie body is flesh... Honestly I felt like a five year old made his powers... Scary part is doomsday has surivied being Erased by Darksied and Darksied said he's beyond death at that point... Don't ask me how because I don't know WTH he his... All I know it's to the point where he is a gag character such as one punch man... So OP it's pointless to put them against someone

[@I_break_games]

@@matthewjohnson690 I you want I know a fun less the. 10 min video explains the sheer stupidity of how powerful he is and I kinda have up on finding him an opponent

[@Shawndatshim]

They crying to much 🤦🏽‍♂️😂 get over it