Who do you think should be held accountable for the accident?
@Sir-Darmstadt3 жыл бұрын
Everyone
@KrissyBlendz3 жыл бұрын
The people who’s suspended the whistle blower and did nothing to fix the problem with the T-tail. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@crisnestle6393 жыл бұрын
The Illuminati.
@adamstone58653 жыл бұрын
Whoever is responsible for maintenance is responsible, clearly the top management of the airline is also responsible because anything under you is your responsibility
@ridenode12023 жыл бұрын
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CORPORATE ENTITY. PERIOD. ENABLE AUTOMATIC PIERCING OF THE VEIL ON THESE SO CALLED SHIELDS THESE ENTITIES POSSESS. GREED IS THE CAUSE OF THESE TRAGEDIES.
@bridgetrobinson38313 жыл бұрын
The fact that the whistle-blower can never work in the industry again after fighting to keep passengers alive in the airline industry doesn't sit well with me as a passenger.
@yengsabio53152 жыл бұрын
Hear, hear!
@Inspirednook2 жыл бұрын
I I rrrrrrtt
@mannycastro18302 жыл бұрын
With nobody i think my friend, it should be the complete oppisite. The guy blowing the whistle should get a better job do to his concern for human life and not for profits for the greedy airlines.
@theincredibleimpression2 жыл бұрын
That's typical multi billion dollar corporations for ya! To them losing passengers is like accidentally dropping a penny in a convenient store! "They're a dime a dozen" All they care about is their reputations and when someone blows the whistle for the benefit of safety and humanity the corporations immediately shut him or her down and don't give a crap! These days money is the key object to greed and inhumanity!
@damienheaton75712 жыл бұрын
Bridget. I would like to inform you, that as of 2008, this whistle-blower named "John liotine" was my 4th term instructor in my aircraft maintenance school when I was getting my FAA licence
@maujo20093 жыл бұрын
I tip my hat to the actors portraying the actions of the pilots. What I never forget about this episode is their last words.
@mapples0073 жыл бұрын
The same words Ive heard many times when you know you've past the point of no return.
@lilyrrichard2363 жыл бұрын
Its chilling and heartbreaking when they try to fly inverted.
@tomdipasquale96333 жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget those words either! So heartbreaking to know you’re about to die!!😔😢
@yssyplanes3 жыл бұрын
"Ah, there we go" 😭😭😭 Such heartbreaking and depressing words
@lilyrrichard2363 жыл бұрын
@@yssyplanes agreed 😥
@alyssa27963 жыл бұрын
A company like alaska didn’t deserve pilots like these two. They fought until it was over. Alaska let everyone down
@boostjunkie23202 жыл бұрын
it was also a design flaw but I feel like Alaska knew
@ericbeck14612 жыл бұрын
Hence Bankruptcy
@thedesertrat_95142 жыл бұрын
@@ericbeck1461 Alaska didn’t go bankrupt though. They are one of the few airlines that actually learned the lessons from this accident and completely overhauled the company and management. They are now one of the most safest airliners in the world and are the only US based organization that made the top 10 list of safest carriers in the world
@MGower44652 жыл бұрын
Well, don't forget the pilots were trying to save their own lives, too. That's an extra incentive to keep trying.
@Allan-et5ig2 жыл бұрын
You can say that again. All because of low or no grease. Horrible.
@Madhouse_Media3 жыл бұрын
I wish major Hollywood studios would use Mayday's casting department. The guys playing the pilots are fantastic.
@sharoncassell93582 жыл бұрын
That, those planes were a time bomb ticking just when, not if...
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
Well, at least in this episode. In some other episodes, the acting at times was a little iffy. 😅
@dancollins829610 ай бұрын
These 2 guys were both on Broadway for a while. Great actors.
@lawrence1420029 ай бұрын
They do. Ray Kahnert and Barry Flatman (Captain Thompson and First Officer Tansky respectively) both have worked regularly in film and on TV. Kahnert started as a voice actor in the 80s, while Flatman's been working regularly since he had some TV work in 1976.
@Perfectpearl8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@rachel99463 жыл бұрын
These actors that portrayed the pilot and co-pilot are amazing.
@cityplanner30633 жыл бұрын
@Al Kaholik stop being a troll
@howmathematicianscreatemat92263 жыл бұрын
And the cameraman who took deadly stress for us :p
@orenalbertmeisel31273 жыл бұрын
Already seen it on another channel, but just want to say the pilots were absolute heroes who never gave up at attempting to save the plane during the last dive. The CVR transcript speaks for itself. Also the actors depicting the crew did an outstanding job And I was about to say that lessons were learned from this disaster, but then I realized those lessons about maintenance were already learned years prior. Looking back at it this accident feels so unnecessary. Anyone else agree?
@crisper16143 жыл бұрын
Maintenance errors are unnecessary. As an ex avionics tech there is no excuse for improper maintenance. None.
@patriciamariemitchel3 жыл бұрын
I can't watch it again. They were flying the plane upside down and never gave up.🥺😥
@patriciamariemitchel3 жыл бұрын
@DjCole100, not like they did.
@mapples0073 жыл бұрын
@DjCole100 Can one not be self-heroic? There are different levels of self preservation. Those that go above and beyond what most could endure with or without other lives involved is a hero when used as a definition of human achievement of saving life.
@theopulentone16503 жыл бұрын
@DjCole100 I think many people would have let go of the controls and screamed for their lives until the plane inevitably crashed, these guys kept relatively calm, all things considered.
@jeremyhubbard29083 жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for the pilots, fought the plane to the bitter end because of a mistake that should have been fixed years ago.
@kevinmalone32103 жыл бұрын
Guess what, the maintenance for this aircraft was pure negligence. Intentionally done. All it needed was grease on the jackscrew in the horizontal stabilizer.
@patrickflohe74273 жыл бұрын
It wasn’t a mistake. It was deliberate deferred maintenance, and failure to replace a part that a mechanic condemned.
@JCKei-hs7kx3 жыл бұрын
Because the airline was prioritizing profits above everything else! To them lives are cheap!
@triton1153 жыл бұрын
Me too. Especially when they work for an airline with aged, worn out planes that require constant maintenance, including while on the tarmac and at the gate. Airlines that don't replace a plane until the wings and engines fall off.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas90722 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the inspector :/
@aewtx2 жыл бұрын
To me this was the saddest episode, and most frightening. "Here we go." Those pilots fought till the bitter end, and took their fate so stoically.
@melisentiapheiffer3034 Жыл бұрын
I will never forget this one. Pilots did all that they could. 😢
@NoriMori1992 Жыл бұрын
Same. That "Here we go" makes me want to cry every time. More than any other "last words" I've heard on this show. I can't even articulate why. It just… makes me think about how when you're a pilot in an airplane accident, sometimes there's a point where you know for sure you're going to die and there's nothing you can do about it. And for him, that was that moment.
@rthelionheart6 ай бұрын
There are some pilots who come from a military background before flying commercial.
@kartikman78595 ай бұрын
@@aewtx dude you want saddest episode.. You open up for double plane collision that happen right above Ukraine.. You will be crying at the end of that episode
@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-3 ай бұрын
@@kartikman7859 Is that the one where the cargo plane cuts the air liner in half?
@jimtalor79713 жыл бұрын
As a former wrench turner, extending the time between inspection cycles beyond what the manufacture written is downright criminal!
@theq46023 жыл бұрын
It always comes down to management trying to think they are smarter than the people doing the actual work
@debbiemanzonie13232 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@debbiemanzonie13232 жыл бұрын
Amen!!!
@JediMaster3627 ай бұрын
Dang ol' amen, man.
@SaintJimmy615 ай бұрын
Amen!
@PlateletRichGel2 жыл бұрын
These pilots were awarded the highest award for bravery by the Pilot's association. Truly brave men.
@Mohsin-ob5fn4 ай бұрын
They fought to the end
@ElizabethMayo-sf4wg3 ай бұрын
I hate that Alaska Airways was so derelict...for $$$$. Also, wouldn't a company WANT someone working for them that is scruptously honest??????
@Mohsin-ob5fn3 ай бұрын
@@ElizabethMayo-sf4wg evil people
@Mohsin-ob5fn2 ай бұрын
Money before lives
@wounded.wonder3 жыл бұрын
I’ve watched so many of these but this one really touched me. The way they explained their loved ones was so beautiful. They had nothing left of them. Not even a dead body to bury. They became a memory and a very strong one.
@cs77smith672 жыл бұрын
Yeah it crazy that this happen. One of most touching I seen and what scare me most is I be flying 🛫 on one later today 😱. I don't know why KZbin recommended me plane crashing when I'm about to get on plane.
@stephenmapeka7774 Жыл бұрын
@@cs77smith67 How did it go?Not scary i hope
@cs77smith67 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenmapeka7774 I got suck out at 40,000 feet but I'm fine and will live 😂 naw I'm joking but it when awesome 👍😎 somebody was watching an airplane 🛫 crash movie 🎥 when we were in flight so that was weird but other then that, it when great. I'll be flying again soon this year to Thailand 🇹🇭, Philippines 🇵🇭 and other places
@stephenmapeka7774 Жыл бұрын
@@cs77smith67 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!
@hephaestus63653 жыл бұрын
Those pilots did everything humanly possible. Their families should be proud. There was simply nothing more they could have done.
@surfside753 жыл бұрын
Turn around??
@bjvu94603 жыл бұрын
they could have landed the plane sooner but decided to stay over water to trouble shoot and that obviously wasnt the right decision. not turning back when they first started having problems was also a bad decision. would they have been killed regardless? now we will never know
@ali_el_baba36653 жыл бұрын
@@bjvu9460 Afterwards its easy to say they could have done this or could have done that... but regardless these pilots tried their best to somehow safely land this plane but sadly they couldnt. I definetely respect these pilots.
@vincitveritas38723 жыл бұрын
@@bjvu9460 they stayed over water to avoid risk of crashing on land and killing others. That's why they are hero's.
@mariagrace113 жыл бұрын
They were trying to troubleshoot and be RESPONSIBLE by figuring out if they were able to slow the airplane down for landing. If they can’t control it in the air (over the ocean), they didn’t want to risk bringing it close to LAX where countless more lives could be lost if they crashed. These pilots are absolutely HEROIC and RESPONSIBLE!!!! There is no finer example than this type of response from pilots who are exhausted and could have given up. They never did. May they live on in our memories always for leading by example.
@countertop59523 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't think this, but actually the pilots were alot calmer in real life. Up until the very last moment. The audio from the voice recorder is publically available and can be found on KZbin. Amazing how professional and brave these guys were.
@deprofundis32933 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info. I'll have to listen to it.
@anonnimoose79872 жыл бұрын
tried looking, couldn't find it. it's ATC mainly
@fuierago2 жыл бұрын
I kind of think sometimes when I revisit this, that had they had a more emotional response, NOT going through the ALASKAN MAINTENTCE route, and more MAYDAY, MAYDAY, that they would have gotten a more tailored response versus, 13 minutes talking to their corporation regarding a stuck elevator and downward pitch. Maybe they wouldn't have tried to "UNSTICK IT" by jaming it HARDER...
@otten56662 жыл бұрын
@@fuierago When you think panic is the answer..
@andrewdinns1746 Жыл бұрын
both were ex-military, their behavior is to be expected from any ex-military pilot.
@xoxpepe3 жыл бұрын
This episode is intense … those passengers lived a true nightmare .. and those pilots 😩 admirable how they never gave up.
@sy_dianne52242 жыл бұрын
This is every traveler's worst nightmare...to be conscious for minutes while the plane goes down :(
@yengsabio53152 жыл бұрын
Imagine the G force their experiencing!
@carsjt10762 жыл бұрын
😫 all vacations must end at some point
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@jasonjuneau3 жыл бұрын
Falsifying records, putting planes back into service and putting lives at risk, how do these people sleep at night?
@AccentYouLovingheart Жыл бұрын
🤷🏾♂️
@coreymason3615 Жыл бұрын
Because greed rules over everything. It always has and with a lack of accountability.. serious accountability, it will never change.
@midgie11667 ай бұрын
Each time they so it,it gets easier and easier
@rthelionheart6 ай бұрын
$$$
@leifsprout5 ай бұрын
When they view the lives of those on the plane as "lesser," they sleep incredibly easily if it means their bank accounts grow. "Bigger number, better person," is a common sentiment among those who have been completely lost to greed.
@BillyAlabama2 жыл бұрын
These pilots in the end were heroes, never stopping their efforts even at the very last moment. Incredible fortitude and constitutions.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@gervanwilliams14093 жыл бұрын
Those words, “here we go”. These pilots fought to the end. No words to describe.
@Strato133 жыл бұрын
I kinda interpreted that :Here we go" as a sort of final acceptance of their fate... Brave Pilots to the end.
@Mavis3083 жыл бұрын
@@Strato13 Thompson did the sign of the cross on his forehead before they hit the water
@Tracymmo3 жыл бұрын
@@Mavis308 how would we know that?
@zyaphyr3 жыл бұрын
@@Tracymmo source: trust me bro
@neatstuff82003 жыл бұрын
@@Strato13 EXACTLY!!!
@cee_el2 жыл бұрын
The actors in this episode were just too good. I’ve watched this countless times but it still makes me feel a certain kind of way during the plunge
@floridaman3892 Жыл бұрын
The fact that these pilots didn't give up and flew for that long without their stabilizer proves how skilled they were. I hope all pilots look up to these men as role models.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the fact that they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@Aerogamer1583 жыл бұрын
As a pilot we trust the maintenance personnel 110%. We trust the log book is correct, truthful, and work was done correctly. While I can fix small planes and know every bolt and rivet, it’s simply not possible with a large aircraft, thus the trust. Can’t imagine having to deal with an issue due to negligence.
@lgonzalez11543 жыл бұрын
You said it "as a pilot"land the f*ucking plane screw troubleshooting!
@surgeon10163 жыл бұрын
@@lgonzalez1154 the thing is though all pilots are trained to troubleshoot the issue so they can work out if they can overcome it not to mention if the problem they are facing is as severe as this was you can’t just simply land you have to make sure that if you were to attempt a landing that it would be safe it’s never as simple as just land
@BryanVGK232 жыл бұрын
Something Im curios about with this crash from a pilots perspective… should they have turned back at the first sign of trouble with the stabilizer not responding ? Not trying to put them down, these guys did everything they could and didn’t know the level of negligence working against them. Just curios if it’s something that would have warranted then to turn back
@PhycoKrusk2 жыл бұрын
@@BryanVGK23 the airline can and typically will make a list of standard procedures for different types of problems, likely based on manufacturer recommendations, but at the end of the day, those are themselves just recommendations; the final decision to fly or not fly is always the captain's or, if the captain is incapacitated, the first officer's. That being said, when they first started troubleshooting, the jammed stabilizer was clearly a problem, but at that point, was not yet a serious one, and its nature was not clear. If it was electrical or electronic, resetting one of the systems may have fixed it, and they likely concluded that spending some time troubleshooting the issue was worth it if it meant not having to land with a jammed stabilizer. They may have been over their maximum landing weight as well, so would have been circling to burn off fuel to get down to a safe landing weight. There may have also been thinking that LAX would've had better maintenance facilities. The company culture at the time may have influenced the decision. There are a lot of reasons why they might not have turned around immediately, and things being how they are, we'll never know what the reasoning of the flight crew was.
@iamagirl99389 ай бұрын
@BryanVGK23 For getting a pilot's perspective on these crashes, I would highly recommend watching Mentour Pilot. He does crash investigation videos based on the final reports of plane crashes and goes over a pilots perspective of what they were thinking, why they did what they did, and what the effect was. It's usually a much deeper dive than this series and more technical in nature. I often like to watch his explanations after watching an episode of Mayday to get more insight.
@marvinkigame28383 жыл бұрын
As a pilot my heart pours out to the crew who tried their level best to do everything in their experience and expertise to save lives but were impeded by the management's obvious effort to cut on costs. Sad 😔
@Stripesheal18 Жыл бұрын
Do you feel like this is still a problem? Maintenance care?
@sirfmgamer56552 ай бұрын
@@Stripesheal18 my only opinion. I think it is. Cargo doors was also a problem back in that time and it took two or three major incidents for changes to be made. the sad reality of airline safety stems from greedy airline companies trying to cut costs on maintenance repairs and making more money and taking their chances that an incident might not happen.
@mikefoehr2353 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for all that perished but also for the whistle blower...how on gods earth does somebody never work in the industry and yet they were the ones trying to save lives...pure insanity.
@XM-qk5sh3 жыл бұрын
I found that extremely troubling, that a person who had pointed out a life threatening issue would never be hired for that type of work again. If you are responsible for 10's of thousands of lives, wouldn't you want that guy working for you?
@ladybeekeeper77773 жыл бұрын
@@XM-qk5sh one would think so hey, but those making huge profits but cutting maintenance in this company will never pay for the loss of life this caused. Whistleblowers never do well anywhere, in any company or country in the world. One day people may realise how important they are. Maybe not in my lifetime though sadly
@tomdipasquale96333 жыл бұрын
100% agree!! I’d hire him in an instant for my maintenance department!!
@mikefoehr2353 жыл бұрын
@@tomdipasquale9633 I will go out on a limb and suggest whistle-blower like this could very well find a home with Toyota. Toyota is all about reliability, safety and durability. People like this whistle blower would be the perfect fit for Toyota, based on their business model.
@inkyguy3 жыл бұрын
@@XM-qk5sh, look what happened to the whistleblowers who brought Trump’s illegal behavior to light.
@3ountyhunter3 жыл бұрын
Idk who can watch from 23:20 and not have both an intense sadness and pride at the airmanship of those pilots. It reminds me of something my father always told me, "drive it to the scene of the crash." I hope they rest easy.
@surfside753 жыл бұрын
Tell more, if you could about what he thought that statement he made meant?
@TheCasualCosmonaut3 жыл бұрын
@@surfside75 I'll add my two cents if you don't mind. Former F1 World Champ Nico Rosberg remarked of his teammate Lewis Hamilton: "When I would go off I would take my hands off of the wheel. If you impact the barrier the forces through the wheel can be tremendous and can injure you quite seriously. Despite this, Lewis would keep his hands on the wheel and would benefit on the occasion he could recover." whereas Nico, with his hands off the wheel, would lose the chance to recover mid-crash should it arise.
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas90722 жыл бұрын
@@TheCasualCosmonaut cover? What?
@TheCasualCosmonaut2 жыл бұрын
@@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas9072 was supposed to be “recover” in the last sentence. Cheers m8
@mattybrunolucaszeneresalas90722 жыл бұрын
@@TheCasualCosmonaut I figured but it still doesn’t make sense. Wouldn’t be the other way around?
@scheimong3 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that the airline didn't even manage to make more money in the end. A crash like that costs way more than any maintenance ever would.
@paulandrewsantos27622 жыл бұрын
Damn, those two pilots are true heroes for not giving up until the end. RIP on everyone who died.
@icomment22263 жыл бұрын
47:18 "...these backups to the backups backing up the backups is why we can get on an airplane" Quote of the episode. Fascinating and terrifying at the same time. I am sure Alaska Airlines used whatever means possible to ensure that this MayDay episode would *never* air.
@kathrynhoward4196 Жыл бұрын
It's 46:52, actually, with some lead up.
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
Don't think they were any real back ups to the control system for controlling the horizontal stabilizer. Just a recycling system.
@wendyleewilliams11577 ай бұрын
Not knowing maintenance left jackscrew was the cause......(free up the stabilizer) and the pilots tried everything. 😢😢
@bwktlcn3 жыл бұрын
All I can think about is how hard those pilots tried to save their passengers and crew, when they didn’t have a chance. Heartbreaking, when they are still trying to fly a plane right up to the time they hit the water, with no chance to save it.
@elvinmaponde36523 жыл бұрын
The pilots are the truest heroes of all time. They fought till the end. I wish the end was better. May they rest in peace. I wish I had that fighting attitude.
@legioner9 Жыл бұрын
If you really wish it, you will have it. :)
@joshwhitcomb24913 жыл бұрын
I remember this like it was yesterday. I was 13 when this happened. My mother's cousin was a flight attendant on this flight. His significant other was also on the flight. I remember going to Seattle for the funeral. Very sad for all involved. Flying to me hasn't been the same since.
@mark1811able2 жыл бұрын
Just say his boyfriend 😒
@mark1811able2 жыл бұрын
Just say his boyfriend 😒
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@nunyabusiness52753 жыл бұрын
This is the first episode in which I actually teared up during the reenactment. What an intense and goosebump inducing episode!
@EM.ELITE.gameSim3 жыл бұрын
I am full of tears 😢. Imagine being in an airplane at 35k feet high, and you look out the window and see another plane in a spiral nose dive...
@ktown8139 Жыл бұрын
It’s terrifying that the person who could have prevented this accident was suspended from work for trying to do so. I fully believe that this occurs so frequently, in so many different areas of society, we would be absolutely shocked.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
it's terrifying that they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American, but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@paulacullin89002 жыл бұрын
You know it's messed up when people get punished for wanting to keep people safe. I think there is something wrong with that.
@Penbooks-b2r Жыл бұрын
23:20
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the fact that they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@Eds7570Ай бұрын
Whistle blowers will usually get some kind of payback, but yeah, sucks big time.
@YourNeighborhoodOT3 жыл бұрын
The pilots are heroes. Saved a lot of lives on ground. And did the best they could
@mbvoelker84483 жыл бұрын
They never gave up -- the mark of true heroes.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
they NEVER interviewed the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, but interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@finnmurtons8727 Жыл бұрын
"If you're going to fix something, fix it right the first time." Words I'll never forget uttered to me by a marine/industrial welder. True for marine, true for aeronautic.
@ilc-nl3yy9 ай бұрын
Corporate scumbags
@stantaylor5243 жыл бұрын
As the plane takes its second dive, hearing the reports of the nearby plane pilots reports is terrifying. "That plane just took a huge plunge." And "yes the plane is out of control " the plane is inverted " These pilots watched helplessly as the crew and passengers and suffered to their death" "Sir he just hit the water." Watching this video makes you feel like you there. Out of hundreds of crashes this is the most horrific crash video I have seen.
@GianlucaBerger2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this episode and the Aeroperu one both really get me. Crashes that were completely unavoidable. I suggest you watch the Aeroperu 603 if you liked this episode. Both pilots on that flight fought till the very end
@Boundwithflame232 жыл бұрын
@@GianlucaBerger JAL 123 is another that comes to mind.
@helenafranzen98282 жыл бұрын
Heroes of this episode - the pilots and the whistleblower. The pilots lost their lives, the whistleblower his career and livelyhood but I bet the bosses of the airline suffered no penalty at all. And if they lost their jobs they probably went with a huge amount of money. That unfainess makes me sick! Rest in peace all who died and peace to the heart and souls of the families.
@legioner9 Жыл бұрын
So well said. So true.
@AliKhan-xw5fw Жыл бұрын
I doubt the higher management lost their jobs or got any sort of punishment at all. They probably used plausible deniability and found scapegoats like those two supervisors
@helenafranzen9828 Жыл бұрын
@@AliKhan-xw5fw You are probably right about that. Unfortunatly.
@EB-yx4fn3 жыл бұрын
gosh, these episodes are all grim in their own ways but the interviews with the parents at the end got to me deep I'm not even a parent or anything, man, their grief is just so profound
@powwowken27603 жыл бұрын
This wasn't an accident, the word accident by definition means something happened unexpectedly. This was such an obvious outcome that these poor people were basically murdered by Alaska Airlines'.
@joegiuseppepalermo27553 жыл бұрын
This was a maintenance accident as defined by the NTSB. The term accident implies that nobody should be blamed, but the event was caused by unrecognized or unaddressed risks. Still an accident.
@KristinCortez3 жыл бұрын
This tragedy happened because an airline put money ahead of safety, and the poor people on this flight paid for it with their lives, as did their loved ones who lost them. 💔 The aviation industry did not learn from this; not when an airplane manufacturer didn't want the costs of simulator training for the pilots, and another 346 people died in two crashes just months apart. May all of the victims who lost their lives because of corporate greed rest in peace. My thoughts and prayers are with them, as well as with their families and loved ones. 🙏🏻
@ogrig34303 жыл бұрын
@@KristinCortez It's not that simple. Airline companies is low marginal business. Unlike buying cars or smartphones with air tickets people prefer pay as low as possible. And if even consumers don't value their lives nobody will.
@notme2day3 жыл бұрын
@@ogrig3430 When you have to lie and falsify information and go against the manufacturers safety maintenance recommendations it is THAT simple!
@bryanjames66693 жыл бұрын
@@notme2day Sure is a lot of Alaska Airlines employees in this comment section...
@Critical_mtb2 жыл бұрын
The pilots definitely true heroes in this situation. They tried to save them until the end.
@JamarHerrod3 жыл бұрын
I think certain flights like this remind us that this should never be forgotten and the airline companies should never forget so it won’t happened again but as we know with other plane accidents sometimes catastrophic plane crashes have been repeated in the past. We hope this never happens again.
@aviatorsound9143 жыл бұрын
B737 Max and Boeing.
@lewthrasher41943 жыл бұрын
I hope family members get some comfort knowing that the pilots fought to the bitter end to save the lives of everyone on this plane. God bless all on board and their families.
@PapaG6033 жыл бұрын
All accidents are terrible But this particular accident gets me every time i watch it🙏🙏😪
@hirokawana2 жыл бұрын
these two pilots are the most corageous , who tried very hard to help people in the air and land. they never gave up till the last moment.
@catn_p2 жыл бұрын
to be honest, this is probably the scariest episode of mayday. Just watching them helplessly fight. This is my second time watching it--
@danielbrown17243 жыл бұрын
While I’m glad that each accident leads to tighter restrictions and regulations across the aviation industry, it’s extremely sad that 88 people had to die as a result. This must’ve been terrifying as a pilot. Nothing is working and they know they can’t overcome the jam. RIP fine people, you did your best.
@rp7r543 жыл бұрын
True it’s extremely sad that 88 people had to die as a result. it is routine Then, new rules and regulations are adopted.
@inkyguy3 жыл бұрын
@@rp7r54, it’s called Tombstone Technology or Tombstone Policy. Corporations, which are entirely profit-driven, control the U.S. airline industry.
@orenalbertmeisel31273 жыл бұрын
This is one of the older episodes of this show, but I don’t think it has ever been as intense and dramatic as 23:20 - 26:20 ever since
@3ountyhunter3 жыл бұрын
The reenactment was really intense.
@scottcol233 жыл бұрын
I think it was the Pilot Episode before they got the usual narrator. Not sure but it sounds like a different guy.
@pomerlain89243 жыл бұрын
This is from the first season, which has been very hard to find. The first season episodes were very dramatic and intense, compared to every season after.
@deprofundis32933 жыл бұрын
Right? I had to re-watch that part. The fact that other pilots were observing it as well...just so awful and terrifying.
@EssexAggiegrad20112 жыл бұрын
@@pomerlain8924 Later episodes have dramatic moments
@teresajennings12433 жыл бұрын
A totally avoidable crash, had maintenance done their job. Just such a tragedy. Greed of the airlines always behind these kind of crashes. Shame on them!
@retr0gaminghub3 жыл бұрын
The above airline try stay competitive with other
@rogerw-interested2 жыл бұрын
maintenance was done, but it the higher ups that changed the schedule arbitrarily that should be held accountable
@PhycoKrusk2 жыл бұрын
@@rogerw-interested so should maintenance, because had all the power to say, "No"; without mechanics, there is no airline. However, it's clear that the prevailing company culture at the time did not allow for dissent, and when you've been immersed in that culture for years, it can be hard to break out of it. The fact is that most people _won't_ try to break out of a culture they've become accustomed to, and the ones that will are generally not trusted by the rest of the group; it's a survival instinct.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, were never interviewed but, they sure interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@deprofundis32933 жыл бұрын
One of the most intense but also really well-done episodes. Hats off to the pilots as well as the whistleblower, who lost so much despite trying their hardest against the odds. Great investigation as well. Such a shame for so many people to over something as small as a jackscrew.
@sharoncassell93582 жыл бұрын
Actually its quite large. About ² inches in diameter and 7 feet long (tall. ) a T tail is quite tall. At least 20 feet high. The picture makes it appear tiny. But mechanics walk on that tail to change the motor that moves the elevator and stabilizers ( stabilator) with a harness not to walk off at a 40 foot drop.
@deprofundis32932 жыл бұрын
@@sharoncassell9358 thanks for the additional info! Although it's still sad that a single component caused it. That always is upsetting, I suppose.
@Xer02802 жыл бұрын
I think in this situation, he meant 'petty' or 'minor' as in that it was relatively cheap to maintain those things
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, were never interviewed but, they sure interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@joshs27342 жыл бұрын
My god. What a terrifying, drawn out death. Those pilots were absolute hero's. They did everything they possibly could until the very last second. I can't imagine how drained they were from sheer terror, and by the physical exertion of trying to keep control for so long. They saved lives by staying out over the water. Just heartbreaking.
@jtveg3 жыл бұрын
I felt so sorry for the pilots of Air Alaska as they fought heroically until the very end. Ultimately in vain because they had been let down by the bean counters and suits trying to save a few pennies. They are the ones that should have ended up in the sea.
@k_spats2 жыл бұрын
Totally busted out crying went they went down. What a horror for everyone on board and their families to know what they all endured. Rest in Peace. 🙏🏻
@brianmafuya9233 Жыл бұрын
😢
@kevinmalone3210 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, pretty terrifying knowing this is it. The plane you're on is going to crash.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, were never interviewed but, they sure interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@mj69623 жыл бұрын
I agree with the comment about the quality of actor and acting. They are top notch and always do an amazing job! Also, the producing and editing are both superb as well.
@user-xd7dt6gr8l2 жыл бұрын
Admirable pilots, for more than just their fight to the end. The fact their lives were in peril but they still thought to turn back to the ocean out of concern for people on the ground is incredible, it probably seems like common sense when you or I think about it, but being able to show that consideration despite the way our mindsets and focus are inclined to change in a life or death situation is just more proof as to how outstanding these two were.
@ladyazalea37102 жыл бұрын
That whistle blower is actually the honest worker here and must be a gem in any company that involves life and death situations. His honesty and dedication saves lives apparently over ruled by the next shift! That next shift person must be the one to never ever work here again!!!!!
@ScarlettEmeraldASMR Жыл бұрын
This flight story stayed with me ever since the first time I saw this episode. The other crash story that stuck with me was the American airlines flight that crashed in the Colombian mountain. 😢 some stoties just stick with you❤
@timothywalsh10013 жыл бұрын
I've worked in aviation.. and this absolutely infuriated me !!
@sharoncassell93582 жыл бұрын
I did a motor change on a C141 in the T tail. Not knowing how important it was as a new mechanic. But we tested it. It worked... and the pilot appreciated it.
@mxw6ll3 жыл бұрын
Their teamwork in the cockpit was amazing.
@kungpaopizza21263 жыл бұрын
I cry till this day to this heart wrenching 💔 story. The horrible shake ups the passengers went through including children. The poor pilots trying to control a beast of a machine and trying to make passengers feel at ease when they,themselves were trying not to hurl because of the horrible fate they knew was coming Lastly,the nincompoops down at the mechanics 🧰 department,what,if _anything_ were they thinking that a quick fix was gonna be a good thing?🔩,we are not speaking of a car on the road here! PS:That poor whistle blower,instead of being fired,he deserved recognition!
@upulaherath7204 Жыл бұрын
These early versions of the series had so much emotions and a great storytelling unlike the later episodes!
@k_spats2 жыл бұрын
*Heartbreaking and infuriating.* God Bless their Souls and give peace to the families for all involved... 🕊 🕊 🕊 These Pilots are Heroes, in my heart. 🤍
@CONTACTLIGHTTOMMY2 жыл бұрын
"Are we flying?" "We're flying, we're flying." I salute you guys for not giving up.
@ch0colatemilk10 ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible pilots. Excellent communication and teamwork with each other trying to troubleshoot, talk with maintenance/ATC and manually flying the plane. Flying a plane upside down in an impossible situation and not giving up when you know you probably have no chance and are going to do die anyways? I cannot imagine. This is probably one of the most chilling dive/crash sequences I've seen in any of these reenactments. That would be the longest and most terrifying 60 seconds of your entire life as you're being thrown about the plane as it plummets hundreds of km's rapidly into the water. Pure horror. I think it's important that somebody pointed out that we don't think of the lives that WEREN'T lost by the pilots trying to responsibly warn nearby aircraft and not diverting to the alternate airport too quickly while the situation was still not under control. Maybe they could have landed it, but we'll never know... They absolutely deserved their posthumous awards for heroism.
@Archerxtreme3 жыл бұрын
How terrible we humans must be, when the person whose responsibility is to check if everything is being fixed properly points out a life-threatening issue and the malpractices behind it only to be suspended and no one else willing to hire him. It's like every company is saying "We don't want whistleblowers because we are indulging in something evil that could ruin or directly cost the lives of many, because we need the money no matter what." Honestly, the NTSB themselves or someone else should have hired him, so that he could assist in future investigations or inspections. Personally, I feel the pilots are truly heroes. They did everything they could and didn't give up even in the final seconds. The people on the ground especially the Alaska Airline Dispatch offered only a joke of a support, more worried about upsetting some schedules. Some may say the pilots shouldn't have repeatedly tried using the motor switches like they did to try and fix the problem. But that can only be said now, in retrospect. A physically jammed stabilizer was something unprecedented for them on that fateful day. It was easier to assume an electrical problem had come up, the motors weren't working, when in fact they were. No one was expecting the stabilizer to be actually stuck. If proper maintenance was done, it would never have come up. A simple lack of grease now becomes a sign of a far larger issue.
@nabeeldoleАй бұрын
I deeply respect the pilots of Alaska Airlines Flight 261 for their bravery and unwavering dedication in the face of adversity. Their courage serves as an inspiration to persevere through challenges. My sincere thoughts and prayers are with all passengers and crew.
@exey1993 жыл бұрын
Captain: "Yep. . We've got it under control here Co pilot: "No we dont!" This cracked me up 😂🤣
@lmc9588 ай бұрын
I'm still amazed at how good the actors are in these videos! They are so believable!
@terencem879511 ай бұрын
Those poor souls. Still so haunting to this day.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, were never interviewed but, they sure interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@chateaupig8263 жыл бұрын
"in fact , they will never make it to Los Angeles" OMfnGod -such words of comfort 😥🙏
@MichelleQuintiaVLOGS3 жыл бұрын
This is so heartbreaking.. 😢💔💔 These pilots did everything they could to save the plane, their passengers and the crew. It was beyond their control anymore for the last several seconds. 😢😢 May they all rest in peace… 😔🙏🏼🙏🏼
@kevinkaatz8832 жыл бұрын
By far The best acting of any and all of these disaster vids
@lizpurr84023 жыл бұрын
This was the first episode I watched of this show, and it was heartbreaking! 😢
@GianlucaBerger2 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the Aeroperu one??
@lizpurr84022 жыл бұрын
@@GianlucaBerger yes, that was another really sad one. 😢
@GianlucaBerger2 жыл бұрын
@@lizpurr8402 yeah those pilots fought till the end and personally thought their situation was even worse
@bambiwest13912 жыл бұрын
My condolences to those who lost their loved ones, friends and colleagues on that flight. May the gentleman who was the whistleblower be at peace and hopefully you found a new career and employer who valued your honesty and integrity- you too paid a price-your job was just a small portion of your loss - you have to live with the knowledge that your former employer, AA, put $ over lives 😞
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, were never interviewed but, they sure interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@Arzeena19903 жыл бұрын
Whistleblowers should be protected! Either via anonymous reporting or with federal "no-retaliation" clauses! Peoples lives are at risk!!
@yourface42482 жыл бұрын
problem is executive federal positions are populated by corporate stooges. they work hard to make sure corporate thorns like whistleblowers are clipped.
@jalalal8056 Жыл бұрын
Have to protect big business as they give everyone else the shaft in the name of increased profits
@danielbrown17243 жыл бұрын
Alaska Airlines, where our motto is..... “Money over the lives of passengers” Book your next flight today 😐😐😐
@HellStr823 жыл бұрын
sounds like the new Boeing motto
@simonm14473 жыл бұрын
@@HellStr82 MDD managers entered Boeing after the merge - and destroyed the company the following 2 decades. They poisoned Boeing. MDD should simply have gone bankrupt instead of merging with Boeing.
@whatwillbem68253 жыл бұрын
I myself have never seen this one..and I must say it was articulate in the way it was presented..thank you for this informative but tragic story..really enjoy the narrators voice and this channel 👍🏼
@ericpolowski3342 жыл бұрын
Love these episodes and have watched for years. These two actors did an amazing job. I can’t get over how well and how real this felt. Just tremendous job by both.
@charlotteshenkenberger3453 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec. A mechanic was literally just doing his damn job, found a serious issue that needed to be addressed ASAP, and was SUSPENDED for it? Is this airline still around or has it gone outta business yet?
@beckramsey77463 жыл бұрын
@@jlockwood65 They're better though.
@gababel53742 жыл бұрын
After the incidents, he is no longer allowed to work in the same industry. Does it mean he was banned from all airline industries in the globe or just this company?
@angelagendreau35863 жыл бұрын
This one is hard for me to watch. The actors did such a good job that it's painful.
@GianlucaBerger2 жыл бұрын
Watch the Aeroperu 603 one too. The actors were awesome on that episode as well
@desmeisme3 жыл бұрын
All my respect to whistle blowers in airline industrys
@karanhdream2 жыл бұрын
One of the main causes for plane crashes : the deadly combination of indifference and incompetence. On a different topic... imagine being one of those pilots nearby, witnessing this nightmarish scene while being completely powerless... In their place, I don't think I would have been able to fly ever again...
@lisha3381 Жыл бұрын
This episode was so intense and really stuck with me I came back a second time to watch so sad the pilots fought till the very end , RIP to the crew and passengers 😢 god bless their souls ❤
@legioner9 Жыл бұрын
God bless them. Yes, this episode stuck with me too. Those pilots are to be admired.
@ChunkDanny5 ай бұрын
I dont normally cry when I watch these shows, but this one is just devastating. Heartbreaking
@danielkhong19805 ай бұрын
I don’t understand how these pilot actors can make it look so real… In fact, it doesn’t look like an reenactment at all. It looks like a person is filming the actual situation in the cockpit.
@ryanscarborough67032 жыл бұрын
Man this flight haunts me. Had to be terrifying. I've watched this so many times. The actors playing the pilots couldn't have done a better job.
@rihamkarim36442 ай бұрын
yea. the families of Thomas Morrison, a native American and a passenger on that flight, were never interviewed but, they sure interviewed the families of all these European settlers in his native country home Alaska. and the Americas. he was well known. i don't think they even mentioned him being on that flight
@krunchieKyn3 жыл бұрын
For a moment I got excited baut a new upload. Wish I hadnt watched this on another youtube channel 2 weeks ago.
@Kitsaper3 жыл бұрын
Minor correction to the date listed twice in the description above... this occurred on January 31, 2000 (not 21st). I remember it very clearly as my family was also on an Alaska Air flight off the coast of California at this same time. Lucky for me, it wasn't this flight.
@healgoth3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this comment will be a month old before they change it
@vickichavez99562 жыл бұрын
So heartbreaking for the families to know how their loved one’s last moments were
@jeshkam Жыл бұрын
I'm a grown up man, but Mr Fred Miller's final words made me weep...
@JediMaster3627 ай бұрын
Human, you are.
@ws52902 жыл бұрын
Suspending two supervisors and fine is criminally insulting to those lost and those whose lives were put at risk by Alaska, shocking
@christopherhennessey89913 жыл бұрын
A shame that no one from Alaska Airlines or the cronies at the FAA went to jail over this.
@wayneh.3169 Жыл бұрын
When this episode first aired, it had a different narrator. I know he only worked the first season but he was appropriate for this type of show. He had the perfect voice tone for it.
@pullt3 жыл бұрын
Kept flying, trying and aviating to the very end. You'd think the ballast of their stones alone could have righted the airplane.
@Onedog77 ай бұрын
Just imagine hearing the real atc recorder. The pilots were so calm and focused doing everything they could to get the plane back . RIP to all lost you boys are brave
@bierstick3 жыл бұрын
“Holiday memories are replaced by the fear of dying” in under a minute.
@JediMaster3623 жыл бұрын
A sentence never positive to hear.
@rebelruth95823 ай бұрын
The fact that just one tiny faulty part can have such a devastating effect is unbelievable
@bebenewbornphotography1702 жыл бұрын
every time I watch this one (watched 4 times) I always think they'll end up saving the plane... So sad....This could have been avoided... The actors really make it ultra believable.
@kmccamis4 ай бұрын
I was invited to go visit the cockpit of an Alaska MD80 in 1999. At 6 years old, I wanted to be a pilot after that... this is so significant for my.