You Know Wrestling Is Fake, Right?

Chris Van Vliet was a guest on ‪@THEREALBRADLEA‬'s Dropping Bombs Podcast and answers the question from Brad Lea, "you know wrestling is fake, right?"
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[@CVVCLIPS]

If movies are scripted, TV shows are scripted and broadway shows are scripted... why doesn't anyone call those fake? Watch the full interview on Brad Lea's KZbin channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d52rgnuelJeWodE

[@dan4992]

I feel like wrestlers advertise themsleves as the real deal alot more than actors do which rubs people (especially "tough guys") the wrong way. Robert Downey Jr isnt going around saying hes iron man off set whereas wrestlers lives are very interconnected with the sport so its hard for people to know where to draw the line and where WWE themselves draw the line, cause we all know WWE has blurred the line between reality and entertainment before. Like Jeff Hardys addiction being a storyline. Its this real/fake vibe that tbh is off the fking walls crazy at times that people dont understand but thats also why people love it. Sorry for the long response but I wanted to give u a good answer cause I'm sure you hear about this alot. Also, I love your work sir.

[@achrisoutofwater1579]

@@dan4992 I think wrestlers have a right to walk around like they’re the shot bc unlike actors they don’t have stunt doubles that are going out and taking bumps for them every night. WWE superstars specifically are going out wrestling 4 or 5 times a week while actors might have a couple fight scenes a year, completely different.

[@dan4992]

@@achrisoutofwater1579 yeah you have a point

[@xavierrhcp13]

@@Sherif_Yehia Balboa also didnt do any of his stunts though. He didnt lift dudes above his head, or jump off a turnbuckle, or bleed profusely, or tear any pecs or quads, or taken a kick from danielson to the chest. No actor is as physical as the lamest jobber in a wrestling company.

[@xavierrhcp13]

@@achrisoutofwater1579 also nowadays no wrestler practices kayfabe anymore. Theres a few like MJF or Rey Mysterio, but even they dont act like tough guys anymore. The old school wrestlers that used to do that, could probably still kick your ass. Sid, Vader, Bob Holly, or Haku are dudes i would not want to fuck with in real life.

[@Youretryingtoohard]

The minute he said “Triple R” i knew this guy watched wrestling but is pretending to hate it to be cool.

[@32189djsddk]

This.

[@frasert8779]

Exactly what I thought lol, I’ve never watched wrestling and know it’s Triple H

[@JuneBug79824]

Exactly!!! The fact that he knew the "triple" part just proves that he knows about wrestling! I'm surprised he didn't try to say another wrestlers name wrong to try and make it sound like he never watched wrestling smh 😂😂🤡

[@cheraagarora3127]

not necessarily. a lot of people know who the undertaker, john cena, randy orton etc. are as well but doesnt mean they all have to be fans.

[@w花b]

Sounds like a burger or a shock website

[@colemurphy6522]

“Running around pretending to kick each other’s asses when they aren’t” Just described an action movie..

[@TraumaER]

Savage. He should have replied with that line.

[@derekborba2644]

Literally

[@Youbussy]

Actors get hour long breaks and make up scars wrestlers literally get thrown onto concrete tear muscles cut theirselves open for real and without breaks.

[@PROFESSOR-I.C.]

Do you know how many and how often they have from injuries? Surgeries? They're all fake like you.

[@TraumaER]

@@Youbussy that’s why I always respected wrestling more. It’s all done in 1 take without a director to stop the action. 🎬

[@shahenazmalek5882]

it's a live movie with no retakes, no stuntmen, and no editting.

[@superpig5000]

So a play?

[@cizyeah]

you can say it like that actually

[@BCENA]

I mean there is editing a little bit if you think about it

[@codyjohnson4174]

In a way yea, it’s violent, modern theater and a soap opera, good vs evil live action story telling

[@Skyo.o]

but the funny thing is why do people call it wrestling and wrestlers? when they actors since they're fighting scripted fights with no power use to prove their actual worth

[@mistakenidentity09]

"These guys are running around a stage acting" YES, just like THEATER PEOPLE. His argument is so dumb.

[@Skyo.o]

but the funny thing is why do people call it wrestling and wrestlers? when they actors since they're fighting scripted fights with no power use to prove their actual worth

[@hiimsaulcaveman]

@@Skyo.obecause at the end of the day it is still wrestling. The whole reason pro wrestling was created was because regular wrestling wasn’t too engaging and the audience would be bored to death. What pro wrestling aims to do is to portray larger than life characters doing insane stunts with interesting storylines so that its engaging and thrilling. Yes the addition of the scripted elements would make one question “why specifically wrestling?” And the answer is well… it just works.

[@DrakeoGames]

Because it’s wrestling. You’re still putting you body on the line and only certain moves don’t make contact

[@Imbatman131]

​@@DrakeoGames mick Foley is a example of this cause of the countless injuries in WWE and not counting the ones outside of WWE with other companies

[@salamander337]

He said "running around acting like they're kicking each others @$$es but they're not". He's wrong, they are making physical contact and injury can happen. It is the Hollywood movies that are running around acting like they're kicking each others @$$es but they're not. So yeah this guy had it backward. 😂😂😂

[@HomerTheBraves44]

I’ll never understand people like this. Thanks for defending the fandom.

[@cjjonez]

Those are the true woke people😅😄😆😂🤣 but its different on their entertainment.

[@saltybastardgaming5603]

Because it's true it's fake.

[@syndrmeamv4593]

@@saltybastardgaming5603 No shit. Just like CVV said in the video that most of the audiences know it's fake but are still watching it for entertainment.

[@cjjonez]

@@saltybastardgaming5603 if u see it on tv its fake duh

[@saltybastardgaming5603]

@@syndrmeamv4593 bunch of dudes in underwear play fighting sounds gay

[@brandongordon5626]

"It's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.” - Bill Murray

[@SkitzoProductions]

💯

[@Bawn.Meedoh]

The quote originated from imam rumi

[@georgevarughese4886]

@@Bawn.Meedoh the guy who's religious lover

[@ThePTRKWelm]

This comment absolutely nailed it

[@Bawn.Meedoh]

@@georgevarughese4886 religious?no my friend truth lover

[@tazz.z5585]

"Your in it for the ride" 💯 on point

[@codyjohnson4174]

Exactly, and for real, I get sick of hearing that “being predictable” sucks, when actually, no it’s “predictable” maybe because the story calls for it and MAKES SENSE. Sometimes, it’s nice for an unpredictable outcome, but usually, it’s good to be able to tell where a story is going, because…. It makes sense

[@Skyo.o]

but it's super cringe when they act like they are real but they are not. and you can't compare wwe to movies

[@tkkunaka2630]

It’s predetermined not fake… They really jump off ladders onto real tables and get hit with real chairs 😂😂

[@Larry-rz4ed]

I wonder if he would say that Mick Foley going off the top of a cage, and having his tooth go through his nose, was fake🤣🤣🤣

[@scottpelton7600]

@@Larry-rz4edhe totally would

[@Larry-rz4ed]

@@scottpelton7600 I bet he would, just to stay with his opinion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@smward87]

To be fair the chairs and tables are gimmicked. The tables are made of the cheapest flimsiest falso wood available so they break under the slightest abuse, and the "steel" chairs are actually aluminum.

[@shaunaqpaul3078]

@@smward87 that is true, but its not like they don't hurt at all. Movie actors get stunt doubles to do that shit, whereas in WWE the stunt people are also the ones doing all the acting and presenting.

[@dummythicc4582]

"You already know who's going to win." Literally every superhero movie.

[@oTroubles]

Even when they die in Super Hero movies they still come back too 😂😂 The Avengers have their whole endless multiverse bs now and people in Star Wars just keep coming back to life

[@TheLoserface45]

Literally every single one.

[@Gvidas28]

You can think superhero movies and wwe are both lame. Like I do

[@440-fishermandrock8]

@@Gvidas28 lmao Same here . Real men watch MMA

[@TheLoserface45]

@@Gvidas28 you can think any thing is lame. That was just a dumb reason

[@patrickwhite4449]

“They’re pretending to kick each other’s assess” you mean like Harry Potter pretended to fly on a broom. We all know that’s not real bud..

[@CVVCLIPS]

🧹

[@TheFreakJessie]

Or literally every action movie.

[@nickross656]

@@TheFreakJessie exactly what I thought

[@skill-til]

You mean neo didn't doge real bullets in matrix?

[@hypergreedgaming9590]

Or thanos killing half of the universe

[@LegacyFable]

I'm not the biggest wrestling fan I'm an MMA guy and I actually do the sport but idc it's fake my heart goes out to those wrestlers they are so talented and so amazing and the damage they take is not fake at all even my MMA team loves wrestling truly some of the toughest sobs to be a pro wrestler

[@banana403]

I watch both, but I at least care about the drama and storylines in professional wrestling. In mma, and in boxing, I couldn't care less about the performative bs that fighters do to sell tickets and hype their fights. 2 good fighters is all I need in those instances. I couldn't care less about what connor said about this guy, or Garcia stirring shit up against Haney.

[@LegacyFable]

​@@banana403pretty much

[@vincentchapman6916]

I like the way people say "oh do you know it's fake though ?" Like they think they're instantly superior to you.

[@KTF0]

Yes, it's a very condescending tone.

[@theungreatkahli]

My response is usually “No, I thought Kevin Sullivan really was Satan. Thanks for enlightening me.”

[@killingfields07]

"Running around on stage pretending to kick each others ass, when they're not." That's what a movie is.

[@mikeallan5940]

But a movie is way more blievable, wwe and wcw looks as fake as it is, i used to lov it but i grew up and its nothin more than a male soap opera in speedo costumes

[@dezmondperry8014]

@@mikeallan5940 and that is not a bad thing. Women have soap operas which is fake as well. Hell even reality TV is not reality TV. Half of these internet Moguls that claim they got 5 cars and 20 houses glam things up. I am watching wrestling and just enjoying the ride.

[@mikeallan5940]

Well honestly i cant watch tv nemore, reality shows, news, new movies, too dam predictable and fake

[@mikeallan5940]

I watch street skateboarding and cage fights on youtube, nothin fake about eithr of them especially pro skateboarding, not tony hawk shit but street skateboarding contests

[@mikeallan5940]

Im too much of a critic about everything, cant watch movies bcuz ill call bullshit on everything not real, and the horrible acting in movies

[@TheKJC_04]

"ThEy'RE nOt ThE SaME UrHUrHurh" Guy is delusional.

[@HysjMysj]

Grown men watching current WWE is fucking pathetic... tske a look in the mirror, and you'll see qhat I mean :)

[@josephmontoya2251]

He thinks Tom Cruise would fly a plane if the pilot gets knock out lol 😆 if it happen in real life

[@Simon25-17]

@@josephmontoya2251 tbh tom cruise is a madman

[@williamfurdyn5334]

Probably just mad his testes are small from all the steroids

[@eaglesandowls]

@@josephmontoya2251 I am on CVV's side. But to be fair, Tom Cruise does his own stunts so he probably has learned a lot of skills. He may be the one actor who might be able to pull some things off in real world situations if needed.

[@limsrusill]

"I'm insecure within myself so I project that onto others to help deal with it."

[@chuckles507]

Relax, Freud. It’s not that deep.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

Exactly 💯

[@420MrReefer]

Fair play you handled him well, he answered his own question with the response to liking movies 😂

[@marcfenelus5410]

I think we surpassed the “wrestling is fake” thing like 20 years ago

[@BingeworthyContent]

For many it is still a topic of discussion. Bunch of Doofus'

[@Pablosoad4747]

haha this is what I thought, man!

[@poggodoggo77]

Yet I still watch divas for all the holy reasons.

[@adamsheriff2468]

Yea when we were kids and we felt we were on to something, I remember being like “you watch WWE 😒? ObViOusLy it’s faaake”. Man it was cliche

[@xPetyr]

Never

[@xVisionary]

"They're acting like they're kicking each others asses when they're not." That's literally describing every movie with a fight in that he finds entertaining. 🥴

[@j-krillswavey737]

And if you know anyone or been in a ring you know no matter how long you trained shit still hurts lmao

[@pjp7316]

But u cant watch actual superheroes fight eachother or high quality gangsters shootouts. U can easily watch real wrestling

[@cadenwhite8385]

@@pjp7316 so you’re saying movies are more fake than wrestling?

[@yy7931]

@@cadenwhite8385 no he is saying the movies don't have an equal. You can't see a real version on Avatar. Or watch the real life avengers lol. But I'm wwe, there is a real counter part. Boxing, mma, wrestling are all real fighting styles that exist in real life. Why watch the overly exaggerated routines and a almost 100 year old Vince is still running around "fighting".

[@austina.3677]

@@pjp7316 you know pro wrestling is nothing like actual wrestling right? I don’t see collegiate wrestler taking a chair shot or jumping off of really high things. That’s just a dumb statement

[@litplay41]

And John wick is actually beating people up 😂

[@djfusionkotb]

John Wick doesn’t beat people up my man.

[@litplay41]

@@djfusionkotb yeah that’s my point budget Joe Rogan is saying that wrestlers are pretending to fight well so are actors like John Wick.

[@djfusionkotb]

@@litplay41 Beating people up they can live another day. John Wick makes sure you don’t live another day. lol.

[@hamzamubashir9845]

​@@djfusionkotbdo you actually believe he's shooting people? You do know that every single shot he makes has been reshot a few dozen times with props and green screens trained stuntmen making it look like he did something?

[@alexanderwilliamson3907]

“I don’t understand this so it’s stupid”

[@MrCrimsonhermit]

He dug his own grave when he said that movies were entertaining and the actors were acting to make it seem real 🤣

[@_MD_D]

And he kept going deeper 😂 What a douche ahhahhah

[@honerabletate6334]

Exactly

[@swiftassassin2472]

Yeah, he straight up described wrestling 😂

[@rikuyomi]

Agreed, if you know shit you’ll know that 80% of movie protagonists are characters depicting one or more Mental Illnesses. People who idolize movie characters are literally aspiring to be crazy.

[@DurkDiggler]

fat dude with no personality fighting for his love of muscular men in costumes play fighting

[@mattstewart6663]

Unlike movies, wrestlers dont get multiple takes to fine tune the performance.

[@SquirrelASMR]

And cgi bodies to make them look fit when they're actually fat asses who need to hire stunt actors (I know there's exceptions though)

[@ovoxo61ify]

It’s more like a play

[@rokaanalzeer7148]

And when they do a gnarly stunt, they don’t have a crash mat to land on, or call in a stunt double.

[@richardthepastamancer6619]

​@Rokaan Alzeer for some reason some people I talked to though that somehow taking a chair shot or jumping through a table doesn't hurt at all.

[@JobeMartinez-vf6zd]

Wrestling is lame. Who the Fck pretends to kick each other's asses. Like seriously. I would rather watch MMA where ppl actually fight.

[@arvidpetersson2252]

I like that it’s the job of your “opponent” to make sure you go home safe and alive. Can’t say the samething for most combat sports

[@anthonybarnes1903]

Pro wrestling actually was a real sport at one point, with real championship implications.

[@escotheg00n]

If you can understand how Broadway or live performance art works, apply that to wrestling. Stop looking at it as a fake fight and look at it as live story telling.

[@narwhal3051]

This guy really just straight up said “They’re acting real,” as if that meant anything at all.

[@DarthKotEI]

I know he probably didn't mean to say it like that but in perfect grammar his point is still nonsense.

[@bloodaonadeline8346]

Yeah Thanos the giant purple alien with a magic glove that lets him do anything he wants is “acting real” but wrestlings “fake.”

[@adammarshall4245]

Acting real is my new slogan

[@leviuzumaki3903]

Yeah yoda is totally acting real with a green lightsaber doing flips, just like darth vader is totally acting real trying to invisibly choke someone with a special power called the force 🙄

[@saintd_ii]

Yep he was just pretending

[@thrillamanilla2545]

He's a fan. He screwed up Triple H's name on purpose.

[@abysslight2490]

It’s the equivalent of your older brother calling it “pokeymans” or “pokédumb” just to try and make you mad.

[@ec1185]

I would've cracked up if the Rock called HHH triple A 😂

[@JoshTooSporty]

He clearly is pained that he actually believed Wrestling is scripted.

[@GoukiTehPwner]

@@ec1185 lmao

[@1ZosoLZ]

@@JoshTooSporty uh it is tho. Are you 8?

[@ChagrinElectric]

Dude doesn't comprehend that the the majority of entertainment is pre planned. Noone writes a book off top of their head, composes music on the fly, etc. Not all cases, but most.

[@Imagoddamnmenace]

Bro said wrestling is fake and they aren’t like action movies yet described an action movie perfectly lmao

[@khalidw6170]

Dude just defied his own logic, completely contradicted himself & still thinks he’s right………..incredible.

[@pickle_soup160]

And that's why you don't argue with stupid. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

[@dimasandre1209]

usa is stupid dont get into debate with them

[@dr.floridamanphd]

It’s called cognitive dissonance.

[@tristan583]

Sport isn’t supposed to be fake

[@dr.floridamanphd]

@@tristan583 wrestling isn’t fake either. Are the outcomes determined? Yes. But you can’t fake what they do in the ring.

[@CrackHardy]

"They're running around pretending to kick each other's ass". You just described an action movie.

[@michaelrubin9547]

No it's real

[@lukemedeiros1486]

And sometimes they actually do on accident and on purpose. Sometimes wrestlers actually develop real, personal beef with other wrestlers. Undertaker described on Joe Rogan Experience when he was first starting out he went too hard on a veteran wrestler and the veteran literally started to beat the hell out of him. He told Undertaker back stage after the match he needs to know his place in this business as a newbie. Real shit sometimes.

[@reversebh]

@@michaelrubin9547 wrestling and movies are fake bro

[@iamalijibril]

@@reversebh no... Wrestling are real.... The weapons are fake ( at least some weapon )

[@SHAKE-S-PIERRE]

And most of the time the actors aren’t even doing any action

[@mikeramsey152]

the fact bro said Triple R makes me know he watches WWE on the low

[@jcshay8121]

Two points: 1) Pretending not to know the wrestlers names but getting it half right. Classic used to watch wrestling but I am now insecure and embarrassed by it personality. 2) His arguments for why Wrestling is not like a movie or TV show were really really bad.

[@czynx3196]

It's literally the same thing. In fact, the wrestlers are doing real stunts day in day out. What a melt.

[@marshallsmith6546]

Bro I was just thinking there doing real stunts so it’s more real of acting then movie stars who mostly have stunt double lmao

[@PirateCanvas]

@@marshallsmith6546 As a wrestler myself I can tell you it’s not fake. I’d love to see this guy for one day go through wrestling school. This fucker wished he hadn’t said that.

[@genericaccount2056]

Who is this bell-end?

[@marshallsmith6546]

@@PirateCanvas I wanna go through a school there on South Carolina if you know ?

[@harshithn4810]

True. Wrestling is still more real than movies

[@greggillespie8259]

“They act like they’re kicking each others asses” someone stop this man from ever watching another action movie 🤣

[@EazyE11]

Wrestling is fake. Autobots and decepticons, not that's some real fighting.

[@hlrahmed]

Exactly 😂that’s literally what they are doing in movies , he’s just a hater

[@pepethunder]

It can sometimes look even faker in movies. Fast n Furious is absurd. Marvel even involves punching people over mountains.

[@EazyE11]

@@pepethunder Are you saying Thanos didn't really throw a moon at Stark? 🤔

[@benh8457]

Wrestling is like going to watch a school play over going to the cinema. Yeah they’re both acting, buts ones ridiculous & has awful acting, the other can be so realistic you lose yourself for 2 hours. Not to mention the fact there’s no real way to see a James Bond for example, other than this one experience….With wrestling there’s literally a real version of it, yet people still chose the fake. The ridiculousness of it all is quite obvious to everyone but hardcore wrestling fans.

[@megafarad4933]

You also go into an action movie knowing who is going to win as well.

[@boribori609]

"Your in it for the ride" perfect

[@agentcodybanx8909]

Saying it's acting and fake but not applying the same logic to movies? That guy is something else

[@xavierrhcp13]

Id say its a step up even. A more fair comparison is comparing it to a play. Only wrestling is much more physical. I mean, show them Mick falling off HIC or New Jack throwing vick grimes off the scafold and have them explain how that can be faked. Better yet, tell them to tell Vader or Haku its fake. Lol

[@JacksonOwex]

@@xavierrhcp13 I'll be MORE Than happy to tell Vader his job was "fake"! He's dead, what's he gonna do!? I'll pass on Haku though, he's NOT dead yet!

[@agentcodybanx8909]

@@xavierrhcp13 when he said "they're acting and running around a stage" I was like, that's literally a play. Most people don't understand the story that gets told in matches and they definitely don't understand the physical toll it takes to be a pro wrestler

[@xavierrhcp13]

@@JacksonOwex damn i forgot. Lets hope vaders ghost doesnt haunt you. Lol

[@xavierrhcp13]

@@agentcodybanx8909 right!? And its even cooler cause theyre making it up as they go, and it all culminates in a (hopefully) epic final battle. And then there the aspect of blurring the lines between reality and working like the current MJF story. The community/audience too, although toxic at times, completes the package. Its a super unique art form when you think about it.

[@FlashtimeOFFICIALYT]

I loved it when The Avenger actually Fought thanos for real

[@hermansnazzledorf2950]

I can still remember when we were in the cinema and my brother got snapped out of existence right beside me. Good he came back though

[@gman2015z]

Yes I had to wait for the sequel to see my cousin come back.

[@shekharpradhan5576]

Thanks to them for saving the world and finding my doggy who was missing some five years ago.

[@trayoibry8246]

Haha had me laughing so loud in middle of the night damnit 🤣🤫🙊hope my kids don't wake up...

[@Carlos1234jfk]

I lost 5 years of my life

[@oklywright8886]

I can’t stand watching wrestling, but I absolutely love the characters & stories which pro wrestling creates. I can’t sit & watch a full match, but I will follow a story & watch highlights to see how the story ends.

[@Hashtonkusher1]

I liked that you Doble down cvv. He asked you liked and you said still do. Goat answer

[@alsharp3470]

When he said “Triple R, or whatever his name is” shows he’s trying hard to sound ignorant. Reminds me of kids back in school who would say “wrestling is fake” but they sure knew what would happen every week. 😂 Closeted wrestling fans.

[@Relisysification]

Triple R is the fusion of Hunter and Edge

[@mr.ice_cold]

Yup wrestling fake but u gotta admit even social media has a lot of fakeness too that's wut entertainment has become over the yrs n we were blind to see it then but now we know not to believe everything we see or hear it's still for the ride tho at the end of the day like he said

[@swavyypressure9417]

Triple R. The Controller. The Prince of Prince’s. The Cereal Bounty Hunter. Lol

[@brandontankersley8107]

He's trying hard to belittle. Guy's such a tool.

[@grayskindablue]

I have no idea who Triple R(?) is, I don’t think that’s universal lol. Just never peaked my interest. But I also don’t care to interrogate anyone over hobbies

[@utter7465]

"They're pretending to kick each other's asses." Thats exactly what they do in action movies bro 💀

[@MattB-qt6ib]

Wait until this guy finds out about super hero movies.

[@jamirvillarosa7924]

Uhh wait til you get hit by Minoru Suzuki and tell me all of it are fake.

[@robertwolfgan]

And if you put them against each other WWE "pretends" the fights but actually do all the stunts and get injured and all with heavy training. None of that happens in movies unless you're Jackie Chan, everybody else has doubles making it even "more fake" than the actual wrestling matches. So... There's that

[@ArcherBlack]

When he said that sentence, I'm thinking "Then you should understand why we like wrestling. Except in wrestling, wrestlers have to take bumps. They may learn how to take that bump, so it doesn't hurt as much, but they take the bump. If an actor in a movie takes a bump, without some type of padding, it was most likely an accident"

[@mannyrouxx]

he probably thinks rocky balboa is an actual boxer. He doesn’t know Sylvester Stallone is rocky 🤣 something like that. 🤣🤣🤣

[@Chazz6756]

Put him in the Performance Center. Then say it's fake😂

[@Bairdjacob76]

He described wrestling like it was an action movie. 😂

[@Harbyz]

I like Chris his way of argumenting. He wants to hear his answer even if he knows he is right

[@joshportie]

Rhetorical questions

[@710jameson8]

Fucken guy really said argumenting 💀😭

[@leorios8279]

Yeah I have to respect Tom cruise though he does his own stunts

[@CarbonGod666]

L

[@samplesowoopass]

@@gsesquire3441 maybe English isn't his first language. You should consider that when attacking benign commenters on an internationally used site.

[@Experiencing_Joe_Rogan]

“That shits fake” has got to be the worst argument to not watch wrestling

[@kevinimpact5285]

Fr like movies are fake too yet we still watch then so what's the problem lol take it from a guy (me) that's actually tried pro wrestling training shit ain't all that fake I left my first day sore af 😅

[@THUGPUTIN]

Best example is, people will pay to watch rock use stunt double/cgi while doing action scenes in Hollywood movies, But won't watch rock put his body own body on the line live action in wwe... 😂

[@regnorum]

Lmao only in US there is a "sport" that is totally fkn staged and fake. Only in US a champion of a NATIONAL basketball league call themselves WORLD champion 😅😅😅 only in stupid and dumb US

[@marcusjug21]

Shit not fake these are basically stuntmen putting their bodies on the line every week

[@Saber23]

Bruh I never understood that statement 😂 it just makes me want to slap people in the face, like yeah no fucking shit it’s fake bruh why are you insulting our intelligence like that? It’s entertainment just like movies and just like theatrical plays etc, and oddly enough it’s still more “real” than either of those things the shit just confuses me

[@DannyGautama]

If he said that to Vader, Vader would have sacked this guy.

[@spotthedogaye2921]

Bro argued his own point in the same sentence!

[@stoneharper7038]

“They’re entertaining and they’re acting real even though it’s a movie” Cool you just described pro wrestling!

[@Deoslatt]

He might not be the sharpest tool in the shed but I give him props for saying it in confidence 😂

[@Xenor999]

For humans to enjoy anything we unconsciously believe it to be real to be feel emotions.otherwise why would be want good acting even though bad acting is equally fake.good acting allows ur brain to fool itself into thinking said show is real and we feel emotions.well it is real in some sense so why care if it is fake in some context.its not like it's not real in any context.also the whole world is fake in some sense.so why care and put real and fake labels if it isn't your business.

[@elnino80100]

“They’re acting real” that part is not true anymore. Only 10-15% of the people in the business can cut a promo or do something believable. In wrestling today you have guys jumping off the rope onto the floor and people are just waiting to catch him. If they’re acting real, they will move out of the way because a real person would move the fuck out of the way if someone is jumping at them

[@rinkamarsmark8078]

The difference is wrestlers are professional stunts actors , in movies people actually act

[@Deoslatt]

@@rinkamarsmark8078 I.. bro what?

[@MasonSnyder]

"There just actors running around a stage acting like they are beating eachother up" Evey action movie:

[@shydalelewis3966]

EXACTLY 🤣 it's ok he just doesn't understand wrestling isnt for everyone ig.

[@rookiebreakdowns]

This dude didn’t even know what he was arguing anymore.

[@shydalelewis3966]

@@rookiebreakdowns 🤣🤣🤣 its so funny seeing non wrestling people talk about wrestling like if they know what it is.

[@rookiebreakdowns]

@@shydalelewis3966 the questions he was asking at the end "you know whos gonna win? but you're in the audience? well then?" LOL bro what is your point

[@michaelrubin9547]

It's not all scripted

[@user-cp4hz4ew4k]

Knowing Undertaker will win is like knowing Superman will win. One is a live performance, one is on film at a theater a year after an actor playing Superman fake fought in front of a green screen. They're both entertainment.

[@dZ0647]

They’re doing drama and stunts. It’s a literal live action tv show. And you do know who’s gonna win going into movies, 9/10x the good wins and the bad guy doesn’t. It’s about how and why that happens

[@belvinnadar5782]

When he said "Triple R", that's when I knew he's trying too hard.

[@pictbhoytv4666]

100%, this guy is fighting himself.

[@dreadheadgarage]

Right he knew wat his name was he just tryna act like he don't 🥴🥴🙄

[@BAYBAY_316]

Yeah. That guy knew it was HHH

[@kevinconway2965]

Absolutely. Dude knew it was Triple H

[@RandomPerson-ui3xv]

You know he knows he's called triple h but purposely gets it wrong to insult wrestling what a clown

[@logansrun10barnes6]

Ask Mick Foley if getting thrown off the top of a cage was “fake”.

[@PebblesOTB]

It was scripted and that's like saying "ask a stunt double if that stunt was fake". You sound like the guy in the white shirt.

[@logansrun10barnes6]

@@PebblesOTB Like I said go ask Mick Foley.

[@daletruby3262]

I love how people pick one incident, like a fall, and say how is that fake? Wwe is not UFC. Match outcomes are pre determined. A Rey Mysterio can't beat a Batista in a REAL fight situation. Sooooo. Wrestling is Broadway, if the word FAKE hurts your feelings.

[@logansrun10barnes6]

@@daletruby3262 l love how people rant about something that no one even said. Where did I say Mysterio could beat Batista? Where did I say it wasn’t scripted?

[@daletruby3262]

@@logansrun10barnes6 I addressed what you said and added my further option, it's not my fault you don't have English comprehensive skills, try reading my comment a few more times until it clicks for you. Gravity is real Rassling is not

[@colinmx.]

😂 lol bro proved the point while also denying it

[@Bushido21XX]

It's actually BETTER than a movie, because the bumps are believable and they come in LIVE without any editing.

[@Jacev_]

"You already know who's going to win" I could spoil about 95% of movies without actually watching them. I just rather not be a dick about it.

[@freeziboi3249]

Honestly

[@TruthSeeker623]

Same. I can't even watch movies anymore. They're all too predictable. Within five to ten minutes of starting the movie, I've already figured out the heroes, villains, victims, motives, etc.

[@natea3799]

Woah dude you're so cool

[@juhamorad7881]

@@TruthSeeker623 try watching oldboy bet you can’t figure it out

[@pentagon1847]

Wanted him to say a marvel reference cause for like 4 movies it was just fight the villain good guy win

[@blaster5800]

So when you see someone fighting in a movie, they are actually fighting, right? Dude was 1000% dumb

[@Papawizz]

Dude he should watch a movie about wrestling it’ll blow his mind

[@skunknblunt]

Thing is in wrestling they’re actually taking hits, yes their reaction is embellished and over the top witch is the acting part but they’re throwing real punches witch is impressive

[@johnniewaiker6203]

I don't like that wrestling thing. It really is an usa thing. It would be more exciting if it was a real fight but I also think it is very bad for the fighters. It's all ready a problematic situation for these fighters and very bad for their body. So may be it is a good thing it is fake or else it would be way worse. But again, outside if the US it is a strange phenomenon and looks more like a clown show for kids.

[@junsandiego3703]

@@johnniewaiker6203 wrestling is NOT a USA thing. It's really big in Mexico and Japan.

[@Glascc289]

@@johnniewaiker6203 tf wrestling is not usa thing dude wrestling very interesting you acting and take real hit cuz it was mean to be the fake hits usually only on fatal blow so that's why make wrestling interesting

[@Ale-yt1ui]

"They're acting real"💀💀💀💀💀

[@foxcole2006]

Where’s the legendary David Schultz when you need him smh

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

Chris protected the business in a mature honest way. Kudos to him.

[@MrShenanigans28]

God knows it needs to be protected. Wrestling fans are so easy to make fun of😂

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

@@MrShenanigans28 Loyal people who believe in something are always made fun of by disloyal people who believe in nothing. So it's all good. Cold Truth.

[@CazzyVR]

​@@MrShenanigans28 or could just let people enjoy something?

[@collincortright8640]

​@@CazzyVRor you could watch something real

[@lexxxthedestroyer6398]

You can't fake a powerbomb through the top of a steel cage buddy

[@scottydu81]

Exactly, Undertaker throwing Mankind off of the top of the cage down onto a table looked so fucking fake, what a bunch of pussiors amirite?

[@andyme3541]

Indeed Fake is the wrong word. Scripted is the better phrase, but the damage and risk is real

[@mado3623]

​@@andyme3541 I remember in middle school we would try wrestling moves some kid tried to rko me and yanked on my neck backwards when they say don't try this at home or anywhere else they aren't kidding at all and everyone saying it's fake I'm for darn sure that if it comes to a point where they may get hurt these wrestlers can defend themselves and inflict pain on a lot of people I wouldn't try them at all. Lots of them have martial arts backgrounds wrestling backgrounds have been in full contact sports they are a lot tougher than most

[@bizor22]

​@@andyme3541yea mick Foley legitimately is hurting still because of that

[@venomgaming7014]

Or jumping from the top of the hell in a cell (which is apparently 20 foot tall) through the announcer’s table. (Cough) Shane McMahon is a psychopath (cough)

[@tanmaydas5757]

Wrestling is a physical theater where audiences are engaged in the play of physical rivalries. Thats it.

[@bengregson8125]

This guy really has no argument. Wrestling is more real than movies.

[@omegaman6494]

"You know that wrestling shit's fake right?" "Because Star Wars is real?"

[@Hviper6]

"Gosh wrestling is so fake I bet the moves don't even hurt them lol" Hey so what's your favourite movie and fight scene? "Oh bro my favourite movie is The Dark Knight and my favourite fight scene is in BVS when batman destroyed those guys in the warehouse" Well I'm sorry to say this but breaking news I've just learnt that Batman is in fact NOT REAL and Batman didn't really beat those guys up they were paid actors and there was a green screen and wires and it was choreographed

[@leiineskaufmann]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN? ALDERAAN IS NOT REALY DESTROYED? was thinking exactly the same...

[@mrorange8576]

@@Hviper6 The thing is though moves do actually hurt and have long-term effects. Wrestlers have a lower life expectancy than pro boxers

[@Hviper6]

@@mrorange8576 yep

[@RodolfoPerea]

Ummmm Star Wars is in a galaxy far away…….

[@CoryTheRaven]

"They're entertaining, they're movies, and they're acting real." So like wrestling then.

[@Broncos4Life721]

Exactly… Dude sounded so dumb

[@whooked]

we know its not the same

[@soulofanerd9364]

😂 exactly

[@jordannewsom3606]

​@@whooked How?

[@SefniAsheforr]

And most movies aren't even acting real. Hollywood action scenes are usually retarded from a realism perspective. I mean, show me a realistic sword dueling scene in an American film and you have presented a rare find. The only one I've ever seen is in The Duelists. Joe Rogan said the same thing as this guy about Game of Thrones, that it looks real. And I was like, "the choreography is fake as fuck and their armor never works for some reason. The fuck you mean looks real? It makes me laugh majority of the time."

[@darksidepatrollin]

Never argue with scam artists

[@ajdf01]

It's him seeing pro wrestling as something like baseball or basketball as opposed to a movie or tv show

[@samael5200]

"Acting like they're kicking each others asses" .... isn't that the point of acting? 😭

[@jsaenz666]

He said this with a straight face too 😂 🤣 💀 😭 guys like him make the word IDIOT sound humble!

[@originalrecipe7988]

"You know that shit's fake, right?" Mankind after that one Hell In A Cell match vs the Undertaker: "Is this a joke to you? 😐"

[@carlinytc7431]

Honestly I would rather fight any boxer or mma and get my ass knocked out then be mankind during that match. The first fall was bad enough the second one I would probably be in a wheelchair all my life. Then that dude got back up and carried on with the match with a smile on his face. big respect

[@originalrecipe7988]

@@carlinytc7431 And from the fall through the cell, the man's incisor was basically in his nose. It's like he was trying to get as many injuries as he could in that match. Yea it may be scripted, but the damage it does to the wrestlers isn't

[@yzf600rkitsune3]

​@Original Recipe the fall through the roof wasnt scripted though the roof gave way and he fell from the top into the ring followed by the chair even undertaker thought he killed him because the roof shouldn't have broken going through the table was scripted but still dangerous if gone wrong

[@zaodedong9935]

​​@@originalrecipe7988 what's even crazier is how the tooth ended up in his nose, it went through his sinus passage.

[@DiogenesWasRight90]

Yeah mankind got his teeth blown through his lip and broke his hip, "real" is a relative term.

[@ricopanda3147]

I'd say it's like a theater more than a movie

[@nickfox3087]

“& they’re acting real”

[@zikremorca5011]

"They're acting real." Okay Einstein, leave some genius for the rest of us.

[@switchglitch666]

Right?! I mean bro, my brain was blown by the revelations that man was laying down on us! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BAztid]

Acting real? Like, I dunno, in the Fifth Element?

[@yoshimitsu8643]

“Like triple Rrrr” He trying to be in the cool circle but even everyone in the cool circle knows it’s Triple H

[@justinpettit8282]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Menyhard]

So are other sports as well

[@wildsalmon8410]

This man attempting to disassociate wrestling from movies literally just described what makes them the same.🗿

[@Kinobambino]

I cringed hard cause you know while he was talking he was trying his best to seperate them but just kept giving reasons they're the exact same. And still tried to defend his dumbass point

[@BingeworthyContent]

@@Kinobambino Yeah he's a complete idiot lol

[@TheEMTizzle]

Seriously he sounded absolutely ridiculous😂

[@Knifeman1478]

It’s like watching a movie without editing which has become almost as important as acting these days and wrestlers haven’t exactly been known for their acting skills. (my opinion)

[@bobbyblue46]

This is simple everyone knows that movies are fake the entertainment industry never try to sell their art as reality. Fake wrestlers always try to pretend that wrestling is real and that men like Ric Flair and John Cena have both won 16 world championship titles.

[@randomdudehere4828]

That movie comparison was pretty good

[@shahenazmalek5882]

but the childhood memories are real💙

[@gstallion]

Dude just contradicted the hell out of himself😂

[@Mistowgan]

Was about to say he contradicted himself so many times. He was probably doing it to be funny but still the fact this is still the argument people use on Wrestling fans in 2024 when the curtain has been pulled back so far is funny as hell to me

[@OnlySethDavis]

“No it’s not. It’s not the same at all” Like a 9 year old

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

It’s not the same. In a professional sport, part of the thrill is a surprise win or upset that’s an actual non-scripted event. If basketball, baseball, golf, or any other sport had scripted events and outcomes, nobody would watch them. People watch wrestling because it’s entertainment. A circus or musical would be a better comparison. All involve careful acrobatics, acting, poise and so on.

[@viperrecords3288]

@@jacksonrelaxin3425 It’s all pretend buddy. None of it is real lol.

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

@@viperrecords3288 ya bro. All the players are in on it. Ooooooo

[@viperrecords3288]

@@jacksonrelaxin3425 He didn’t compare it to sports. He compared it to a movie. Are you slow?

[@jacksonrelaxin3425]

@@viperrecords3288 shut up ree tard. I already explained it in my comment, but I guess you haven’t achieved 1st grade reading level yet. A pity. Continue fapping to your roided men in tights. Lulz

[@Chris-sh6yn]

It’s the same argument as shows and movies people think fight scenes are badass yet the are fake

[@LoWisR0511]

Its like stuntmen's theater, coming from a combat sports fan I used to hate on it but now I can respect it. They are not fighters but they are very athletic and they have balls, they know they are gonna get hurt and still do it, gotta respect that at least

[@lcw_picfed]

Brad: “You know wrestlings fake right.” Chris: “Movies are fake too” Brad: “Yea but they are acting real.” Me: THATS WRESTLING!!!

[@kolbyrey4429]

At least in superhero movies i get to see some of the best cgi ever produced, making new visuals and stories. And then i see 2 guys pretending to fight in speedos. Yup same thing

[@expiredbear9947]

@@kolbyrey4429 that’s not the argument

[@mexicoolkid]

@@expiredbear9947 people just wanna have a reason to hate it so bad when it doesn’t affect them in the least

[@yesno7889]

It’s because in movies the audience is entirely aware that the show’s a stage but for wrestling most people don’t know it’s all scripted, and there’s no easy way to tell based on the shows alone until someone informs you. It’s not surprising many feel cheated when they find out it’s all scripted since they were expecting an actual authentic competitive fight like in the case of mma.

[@denzki]

The bottom line is both of them are entertainment

[@relikaneliengod5307]

"You can't logic someone out of a position they didn't logic themselves into" -asmongold probably

[@Coarvus]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 -asmo audience, probably

[@cx3622]

Hahahahah asmongold

[@edwardtimothy3581]

True

[@manicdoom]

I fucking hate that guy

[@JOYBOY5858]

Has there ever been a truer true boys ?

[@semmesoort4941]

I always said wresteling is like a life action drama show with cool stunt moves

[@maxdillan6730]

You handled it better than i ever could

[@amitbhattacharjee7929]

Takes one german suplex in a wrestling ring -Proceeds to change his whole perception about pro wrestling

[@stephenhughes5156]

He wouldn't even need to take a suplex. Just try bouncing off the ropes.

[@McGeezle]

How would that change anything

[@OutfitsoftheDay]

@@McGeezle because it actually hurts to take a bump in the ring. Not everyone can run through the ropes and hit the mat

[@McGeezle]

@@OutfitsoftheDay and you think that's the same discussion as whether it's fake or not? (And yes, when we say fake we obviously mean scripted, otherwise we'd be calling it fucking CGI)

[@TaylorBrookspro]

@@OutfitsoftheDay you can hurt your neck/back of your head hitting the mat is so painful. I know because I’ve taken german suplex in the middle of a wrestling ring. My whole body ached afterwards it was hard to recover after that. 3 of those nonstop is a lot.

[@MinerGT]

The most annoying question to be asked as a fan is “You know it’s fake right?”

[@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE.]

Just go along with the schtick. "WHAT?!! IT'S FAKE?!!" *Starts crying*

[@mikemoss6045]

​@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. kick them in the stomach and hit them with an rko.

[@sdcrocks]

It's literally the exact same thing and he's just dumb enough to continue to argue the point. And the ironic thing is, movie and tV show fans send more death threats about movies they didnt like then any other entertainment industry.

[@alanrussell3268]

I love how people who know little or nothing about wrestling try to tell people who like wrestling what it is, it's like I know way more about it than you do, of course I know that

[@tasha3939]

@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. 😂 “I had no clue!”

[@user-wc1sj8xx8u]

Till this day people love to say “that’s Fake” like it’s gone stop people from watching it😂😂😂😂

[@brianagloro6422]

Basically live physical theater

[@junoknobloch3830]

Bro really said Triple R to pretend he doesn't watch wrestling lol.

[@prince_thomas]

Triple R? Must be an indie guy. Rockin' Reggie Remington.

[@gray3165]

@@prince_thomas I personally love John Lena his amazing catchphrase of you can view me is just wow

[@Payseur]

Imagine taking the high ground for NOT finding something enjoyable.

[@anthonylove1364]

Lol he needs to do some research. Not fake more like predetermined. Injuries HAPPEN all the time. Seen plenty of "shoots" in the ring in my time as well 😂. REAL ONES KNOW 🙏

[@samdp42]

@@anthonylove1364 lol right? Show him Kingston and Punk and let him decide if it’s real for fake. Actors use stunt doubles and CGI. He’s ignorant.

[@metalheadjake3339]

I mean you can apply this to a lot of things. Not just pro wrestling.

[@anthonylove1364]

@@metalheadjake3339 APA vs the public enemy lol

[@expired2]

@@anthonylove1364 pre determined is fake dude lol. You can get injured doing anything so I’m not sure what your on about. Real ones know it’s cheesy and for children, watch MMA.

[@davidmiles4678]

Either you love it or hate it… I LOVE IT

[@jasonjones281]

He secretly watches. If not you would never know the names.

[@winsbeyond8295]

I'm Still waiting for that Undertaker vs Triple R match!

[@theungreatkahli]

Did Taker ever battle Ravishing Rick Rude?

[@nathanbishop2779]

@@theungreatkahli not one on one

[@Fallinoutthesky]

I'm crying 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

[@ashkan242]

I just watched it today . Wrestlemania 27. Ain't No Grave entrance by undertaker

[@lordkanti8260]

This comment here 🤌

[@teezwilliams22]

“Runnin around pretending to kick each other asses when they actually aren’t” Very literally just described every single action movie ever made 😂😂😂😂

[@THENAMEISQUICKMAN]

Especially western ones. The fight scenes are just BAD.

[@RaptureDragon1]

BUT TOM CRUISE DOES HIS OWN STUNTS IN MISSION IMPOSSIBLE?!?!?!

[@blazn0]

​@RaptureDragon1 still fake. Watch the bts. Everything is still done very safe. Like when he rides up a mountain he still rides on green screen plates and not the mountain.

[@lolacat4752]

Exactly!

[@Workrategetschingy]

Exactly I was thinking that man just described die hard 😂

[@kazuichisoudaman]

My favorite thing to say in this moment is "Yes, and?"

[@KinnereyB]

Nobody ever told the Hulkster that pro wrestling was fake brother 💪🏻

[@shariefragab1374]

"Acting like they are kicking each other's asses" Haven't seen many Marvel actors tearing their quads and actually getting thrown off cages

[@realjohnlove]

Letitia Wright got injured doing her own stunts lol. We dont have to downplay what actors do to defend this. The athleticism in Wrestling is whats amazing who cares who wins and loses. The strength feats are not fake

[@Jake38nine]

Exactly, and most movie stars would cry about an injury. Most men in movies would cry more than a woman giving birth if he even did 1 ounce of what a wrestler does and gets injured by it.

[@ReeseLeeArt]

@@Jake38nine and Mick Foley can’t walk correctly and can’t remember his childhood, is that what we should be supporting?

[@god1471]

​@@ReeseLeeArt yeah that was his choice so yes i support it

[@CPL.van7]

That's not counting all of the concussions & accidental knock-outs.

[@asapreefy9104]

"Acting like their kicking each other's ass when they're not" dude literally described every movie😂😂😂

[@Grazza1129]

Funny enough these dudes in pro wrestling are actually getting their ass’s kicked more than these guys in movies. Performing a little under a year going out nightly just fucking each other up only two-three of those days a week is on television while the rest they’re just going out there and doing it to do it

[@jasonfreeman88]

And he used the word stage. That's literally a play my dude 😂

[@Kanethemememan]

Then they should just act in movies and why put a ring in the arena when it's fake?

[@user-zs3ov5yr2d]

Oh wow you could steal top comments and rewrite them your own way bravo 👏

[@DreamCatcher99-lz1dw]

​@@Kanethemememanbecause it's a different medium that has it's own niche and one that requires different set of talents? Just like movies are a different medium from stage plays or animation. Asking why wrestlers don't just act is like asking why a voice actor doesn't just do acting? Those are two different things that require different set of skills, despite being some intersection among them.

[@Big.Stepper.]

It's masculine theater 😅