Fighter Pilots React to TOP GUN Maverick - BFM Debrief, Low Level Bombing, and GLOC/Crash Scenes 4/8

[@CWLemoine]

First time? This is PART 4 of 8. Watch the full playlist here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/innIoH6gi9F5idk Before you get triggered and say iT'S JuSt a MoViE or wHy dO yOu hAtE it.... relax, we know. This is Mover RUINS Movies. It's a fun breakdown/commentary/analysis with sarcasm, humor, and real world stories. We both loved the movie.

[@jamesday9701]

I always love your solo reviews and find them greatly entertaining. That being said, the way you and Gonky feed off each other when you two team up is pure gold!

[@Alamandorious]

You popped up on my feed yesterday, and you’ve been pretty entertaining. It’s been pretty cool to hear an actual fighter pilot comment on things. As for this, given your reactions in the previous video, as soon as he said ‘best fighter pilots on the planet’, I _knew_ that a ‘no’ was coming lol. Gotta ask, can you actually suspend disbelief and enjoy movies and games, or does your skill in your profession make that impossible?

[@kananjarrus1016]

Just found your videos from KZbin algorithm.. I'm addicted you guys videos make my day!!

[@Ananamitron]

Not sure why people are getting butthurt. I love the movie but it's nice to be informed of "this is what should've actually happened."

[@jamesday9701]

@@Ananamitron exactly. I love to be educated on things, even if it means to "ruin" a movie. I always find Mover's videos entertaining

[@dwmarch]

Phoenix's situation was because of her callsign. She was obligated to catch fire, blow up and then rise up again. I'm pretty sure that was the logic behind it. If her callsign had been Pancake she would have died.

[@jameswg13]

Supposedly real pilots gave them the call signs after heavy drinking sessions

[@glaabaglooba]

Lol

[@ohmygodpleasehalp3984]

*callsign PANCAKE* 💀💀💀

[@PV1230]

callsign "deadmeat" like Hot Shots :D

[@SupaMan2122]

One expensive bird

[@jjwb22]

Hey guys we just wanted to let you know since you played football and didn't take this mission seriously. We decided to go with 2 B2 bombers with 4 F18 growlers in support.

[@FirstDagger]

Heck the F-35 probably has enough EWAR capability to not need Growlers at all.

[@candle_eatist]

fuck it, just take 4 F-35s and call it a day

[@jjwb22]

@@FirstDagger timing is great. Reading this reply listening to the F35s flying over my house from the air base 20 miles away. Lol

[@razor75250]

@@candle_eatist no fat amy's allowed!!!

[@jjwb22]

@@candle_eatist what about the Curise Missles that hit the airbase. Just send 30 of them and game over

[@thedhl777guy]

“This is what happens when you throw the NATOPS in the trash can” 😂 classic Mover

[@frostfive3991]

I am..... _JUST_ gonna leave this right at 69 likes😁 EDIT: Oh, _DARN_ it!😑Otherwise yeah....Mover never fails to impress us!🤣

[@schumy1975]

it was so funny. good stuff!

[@H3ntaig33K]

Also, why is the enemy studying our NATOPS. Are they gonna radio in and help our pilots troubleshoot problems in the jet?

[@SynchronizorVideos]

Killed me.

[@simplyzhouye7534]

Gonky is most of us in the audience, just enjoying the movie for what it is. Mover is straight up Gordon Ramseying the movie in pieces, which is hilariously entertaining. Thankfully i've watched and enjoyed the movie to the point of saturation that now i'm enjoying reaction videos tearing the movie apart without it affecting my love for the movie xD

[@skydiverclassc2031]

10:19 Maverick: "Don't tell me. Tell it to his family". Phoenix: (wait for it) "The Navy requests to tell you that your sons are dead because they were stupid. "

[@branlopgar]

Goose was an underrated gold mine of epic lines in the first movie, and many of them lines that still applied to the sequel.

[@kylewilson2819]

GREAT BALLS OF FIRE!

[@martinnickell2883]

Cmon Mav do some of that pilot sh!t!"

[@jimmagwojo2718]

Have to admit this was top notch good fun at its best - i loved hearing Gonky's recounting of birdstrike and seeing you go through NATOPS to refresh the restart was beyond cool 🙂

[@CWLemoine]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@officerbutton9532]

If you would like to read it too, the F/A-18 NATOPS is online. You can download the PDF. It reads like they wrote it for the dumbest guy in engineering class. Like it's super technical, but in that slow pace, small words way you talk a 4 year old into wearing a jacket 😂

[@kimberlyr9641]

You guys are awesome! Honestly, I only understood about half of what you were saying (if that, LOL), but I had a lot of fun watching and listening. Thank you for your service.

[@jedsithor]

The mission is basically the trench run from Star Wars. The only difference is that the trench run and impossible bullseye shot happens before the dogfight in this movie whereas the dogfight happens first in Star Wars.

[@seangelarden8753]

Thought the same thing

[@DroneDocs]

100%

[@MrChickennugget360]

which itself was based on "The Damn Busters"

[@seangelarden8753]

@@MrChickennugget360 I remember that movie with the spinning bombs

[@vicoschangoku609]

It's also exactly the same mission than in hot Shots! ;) ^^

[@oscarwarren9709]

Now I want to see Topgun: Mover. It would just be two hours of Mover and Gonky being annoyed at the characters in the movie while getting it done better. 👍

[@WorthlessDeadEnd]

*MYSTERY SCIENCE THEATER 3000* 🍿

[@lamefart]

Better in what?

[@maureenobrien4968]

Mover and Gonky Theather 3000!

[@razorman2006]

are there footage of stuff that these guys done in the past? i´m pretty sure in a heat moment everyone dont act the perfect way

[@arctic3007]

@@WorthlessDeadEnd yeeeeeeeees

[@tostadatheviking7828]

"You are talking about the best fighter pilots on the planet, Captain." oh dear here we go

[@jasonsong86]

Gonky is like an upright golden retriever. He's so excited about the movie.

[@themoverandgonkyshow]

LOL!

[@bradennichols3154]

From a non military person all the exposition and conversing helps the general audience understand what's going on. But I love hearing what actual should be happening. Best of both worlds

[@lokarrsboots9337]

This is comedy gold. I love it Phoenix: "Sir, is this even achieveble?" Mover: "No. It's stupid." Roll the credits!

[@755hp]

25:25 😂 That’s true….everyone ignored the fact that he went right back into a hard pull and realistically would have G-locked again.

[@Buckshot12g]

My father was a tail gunner, i believe it was an RB-66, and watching any military movie with him was just him ripping apart all the inaccuracies in the movie, you guys remind me of him . Thank you for bringing back happy memories

[@jimlthor]

Sucks watching movies about stuff you're really experienced in. Any Army movie fucks with me... One thing that surprised me was the show Chernobyl. I've been in powerplants for 15 years, and almost everything in that movie was surprisingly accurate... the least accurate parts were probably how the shift supervisor and plant manager's treated their employees.. if one of our boilers exploded, and we felt the shockwave, the supervisors would definitely believe ANY of their guys if someone came into the control room and said, "uh.. the boiler is gone" But you could tell they either had extensive knowledge of plants, or they had some experts help them out along the way

[@albertmas3752]

I understand laughing about Maverick explaining basic physics to his pilots. But he's really explaining it to us, the audience.

[@frostyrobot7689]

Basil Exposition

[@prinzalbatross9526]

True, but there probably should have been a way to do that without making it look like the "best" aviators were going through flight school.

[@albertmas3752]

@@prinzalbatross9526 Yes. Probably having Maverick argue with his superiors the reasons of why he chose that option would be a good way to do it naturally. He is continuously getting his attention caught by his superiors due to he way he teaches and general behaviour so it would fit much better than explaining those best aviators the basics of flight.

[@martinnickell2883]

Yet the BEST of the Best didn't berrate him for pointing out the obvious!

[@onechi]

Some of these criticisms don't take into account that 1. It's a movie; and 2. There are some rules in script writing to make sure the audience can follow and to build the drama. It's not a documentary.

[@RobertMorgan]

"You can do it if you HAVE to, but you don't PLAN TO." A statement that applies to so much of life.

[@matthewrussell7069]

Mover: AAAAAND right back to GLOC. Love it. You guys do a great job keeping it funny and teaching us along the way.

[@Shishiwata]

Mover was totally waiting to say that too haha

[@vsGoliath96]

I'm glad you guys noticed what I did about their training. They simulated a route that they have to take for the actual mission, but they're also flying in a canyon during practice. So did they just happen to find a canyon that is exactly the same as the one for the mission and required the exact same maneuvers? And if that's the case, how did they hit a wall in the simulated one and not die for real? Edit: Okay, another thing! When Maverick says they're going to pull a 9 G climb out of the crater and it will likely bend their airframe, how are they practicing it without, you know, bending the fucking airframe? Are they just sacrificing dozens of F-18's to attempt this?

[@doudymac]

I think the practice canyon is not an exact copy of the real one. Just close enough for simulation. That's why they weren't close to the mountains for real. Just like practicing hitting the target was in an open desert area.

[@Captianmex1C0]

The practice canyon was pretty open compared to the real one. Its like setting up cones in a parking lot to practice racing down San Francisco streets

[@vsGoliath96]

@@doudymac But you would still need to find a canyon with pretty much the exact same shape in order for that to work. The chances of that being the case are absolutely astronomical.

[@doudymac]

@@vsGoliath96 True. Very unlikely. Maybe if they find one that's wide enough so they easily maneuver inside.

[@ericssmith2014]

Yeah, we just have to accept that they were able to fit their simulated route into the real terrain with _some_ tight clearances so that we have something to watch.

[@TacComControl]

Point of order... Fat amy loaded out beast mode can Definitely take care of the entire bombing run. First wing clean, drop bombs from the bays, shack SA and the tarmac while second wing fully loaded pumps AMRAAMs long range to make sure every bird in the air goes away in bits, and final approach drops GBUs from altitude with clean skies.

[@OhNoNotAgain42]

I’m concerned about Gonky’s complete lack of empathy for all the birds he murdered in his Super Hornet

[@Arengeesus]

bigger fish prey on smaller fish. a damn hornet is a freaking goliath for a bird. conaider it a quick painless death

[@Bigjfitm32]

😂😂😂

[@BeTeLGeuZeX]

LMFAO

[@warcrimescostextra3992]

What if those birds were assholes. Did you ever think of that?

[@ryanshannon6963]

@@warcrimescostextra3992 Gonky: " *I'M FLYING HERE!!* "

[@metricton8167]

Love hearing real fighter pilots take on this movie. Totally reminding me of Mystery Science Theater 3000

[@theonlynontrollhere]

I see Gonky as Crow and Mover as more of a Tom Servo

[@kennethstegmann2866]

Was an F-15 crew chief. I know that our base we lost a 15 on takeoff from a bird going in intake. I’ve seen a video of a 16 going down from a bird strike. They do happen all the time and when they go in the intake, a big inspection on the engine has to be done. Usually a bunch of blades get damaged and need to be filed or replaced.

[@xantiom]

What about the gunk from all the blood and organs? Do you have to wash it and scrub it?

[@Tank50us]

@@xantiom Yup. Then an inspection has to be done to make sure there isn't any structural damage beneath the hit. You'd be surprised at the kind of damage that a

[@rsuminsby]

I love how Maverick's much ballyhooed pilot skills consist mostly of 1) slamming the throttles into the NW quadrant, even in situations where he should already be in full AB, and 2) snatching (sts) the stick to the seatpan, even at airspeeds where he'd rip the wings off.

[@sinsofanubis1053]

Yes, Mav was explaining things the pilots and wizzos already knew, but the point of that dialogue was for the viewer. Not everyone that watches this movie is a fighter pilot.

[@Amar7605]

“Why are there civilians in our briefing room, Mav?”

[@PolarizedMechs]

@@Amar7605 Look at all the people complaining about not knowing terminology in this video alone. Now expand that to the millions of people watching who don't know a third of what Gonky and Mover are saying. This movie would've bombed because no one would have any idea what the hell Maverick was talking about.

[@travisneill704]

Well, there an axiom in screenwriting called show don’t tell. VO with things the characters are purported to already know is simply lazy screenwriting.

[@Ad-ho7hc]

@@travisneill704 On the other hand, was there really any other way to put it to accomodate even the completely uninitiated ?

[@travisneill704]

@@Ad-ho7hc are you asking how to convey that in a screenplay through actions, fewer words, theme, and artistry? Yes, there is. But like most of the time when you see expositional dialogue, it's simply laziness that carries that day. Most times it's viewed as too subtle for the audience. If that's the case, then fine, you just have dumbed down dialogue. Got it. Speilberg used to get around this by adding a layer of tension to the exposition. a good example of this is Raiders of the Lost Ark when Indiana and Sala are talking about the markings on the medalion and how high the staff is supposed to be. It's completely expositional but Indy is tossing a poisoned date around and we are more worried about him eating that than what they are saying. That's more sophisticated than what they did in Maverick. Please don't get me wrong, I've seen Maverick 6 times now and love it. But it's not flawless and it's a good study to identify the weak parts.

[@sparkycjs]

"this is what happens when you throw the NATOPS in the trashcan" 😂 had me laughing out loud there 😂

[@marcwanagas1234]

Let’s be honest. That Aegis cruiser could have done the same mission alone from its VLS complement. But then we wouldn’t have Ace Combat: The Movie.

[@cirilloscater5545]

huahuahuahuahuauhahu ace combat the movie...so f-ing true;spot on 🤣🤣

[@selderane]

Garuda 1 inbound.

[@TacComControl]

These days, a high-alt drone with a grenade on a dropper could do it. Hell, give em two, and you're golden. Seriously, don't even need the boat, just need a guy in the back seat of a civic with a phone. XD

[@Avalanche041]

@@selderane May the golden king smile upon us

[@LOLHAMMER45678]

Nothing you fire from a Mk. 41 VLS can do much earth penetration, unless you've got a TLAM-N with a W80

[@noisycarlos]

I figured they had a canyon that was wider than the real one, so they're turning based on the simulated canyon. The real canyon is there... just for the movie really, but you can justify it by saying it gives the pilots a bit more realism than a completely flat terrain

[@patfer1189]

Exactly.

[@JeanBatiste5158]

The death canyon who kill real experimented pilots

[@Maverick25ish]

I think what he means though, is if your following the simulated canyon you could hit the terrain around you, it would have to sync up perfectly so no one crashed into a wall following the sim

[@noisycarlos]

@@Maverick25ish I understand. What I meant was that they could have a canyon wider than the real one so they never hit terrain and only go by the simulation. They don't REALLY need a canyon at all in this case, since they're going by the sim, but it makes the movie more visually interesting, and you can justify it by saying it gives the pilot real mountains in the background (even if they don't match the real ones) to give them a feel, or that they simply didn't have enough flat land.

[@Kinobambino]

And they could have easily figured it out but for some reason the whole video they were stressing their brains trying so hard to find problems they forgot to think if reasoning

[@Stinger522]

I watched the entire video and I'm still laughing. You and Gonky knocked it out of the park with this part of the critique. As for Hangman's attitude, I just chalk it to him being a Texan, and the actor who played him, Glen Powell is from Texas. The director probably told him something along these lines. "Ok, Mr. Powell. Since you're a Texan, we're going to take the charm and hubris you Texans are known for and crank them up to level ten."

[@goobermcgilicuty3754]

Calm down its a move. Meant to be overly dramatic Beats the shit out of all the "woke" crap Hollywood has been producing lately!!

[@artloverivy]

@@goobermcgilicuty3754 Y’all really can’t walk 2 inches without complaining about woke culture can you? 😂

[@savagetv6460]

@@artloverivy woke culture is cancer and must be eradicated from America. We're gonna destroy woke culture with pure Christian nationalism

[@johnjackson2956]

@@artloverivy I mean based on its cancerous nature what good does it serve to society as a whole? Just asking.

[@cap_eath]

This sucks when youtube says there are 4 replies and only shows two. KZbin maths really bad

[@tmytyson]

29:24 funny enough, in pilot training around 2018 the sequencers in the T6As were fucked up so procedure at the time was to leave the ISS in Solo and in the event of a bailout the student was supposed to wait one second after the instructor ejected before pulling their handle.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Loved the movie, love jets and love you guys. Ever since I was a kid, every time F111s and now F18s or F35s fly by my place (in Australia) I run outside hoping to see them, so just being able to jump on KZbin now and hear thoughts from actual fighter pilots is so cool. The best side of the internet right here. Wanted to say thanks for making all these videos, there are so many little things that we just wouldn't know without actual pilots explaining them, it's great.

[@justalpha9138]

I'm considering joining the AF and I'd try to become a pilot for the F-35. I've grown to really love that aircraft.

[@shotz_o]

is that why you still use inverted mouse settings? pretend you're flying a jet?

[@justalpha9138]

@@shotz_o No? I never use those settings. I just have grown to be interested in joining the Air Force recently because of playing VTOL VR a lot, this movie, and learning about the job, both the drawbacks and the benefits.

[@shotz_o]

@@justalpha9138 oh my bad, I wasnt actually addressing you haha, sorry about that, I meant RJN. I agree obviously, jets are cool, fair to be interested :D

[@justalpha9138]

@@shotz_o As much as I've grown to adore the F-35 specifically, I have other reasons as to why I might actually join the Air Force in the near future.

[@sparkycjs]

Just wanted to say, you guys lived the dream. I loved Top Gun as a kid, I was in the Air Cadets in the UK, flew gliders and Chipmonks, and applied for RAF officer school but even after passing all the tests I failed in the interview because 17 year old me didn't read newspapers and had a common accent (RAF in the early 90s was still discriminating in favour of posh men for flight officers). It broke my heart but I totally respect that you guys made it and got to fly jets. I love this movie and anything with air combat in it. Best I get these days is flying my drone lol 😂

[@tuskegee87]

I love it... "You're not GLOC'd, stop that".. . You're right sir, it was all in my head!! Also, i love the "So to speak..." that you add to "questionalble" phrases lol. Great vids with you and Gonky. Keep them coming..."so to speak"

[@warcrimescostextra3992]

I've never been a pilot, so maybe someone can help me.... did "so to speak" start with Air Force Blues? Or does Barbie say it to point out sexual innuendoes in the comic because actual Air Force pilots do it?

[@warcrimescostextra3992]

Mind you, I was just a Forward Observer in the Army who MAY or may not have given an F-22 pilot a run for his money in a simulator, one time....

[@razor75250]

Mover, i planned the mission with growlers to eliminate sams. Raptors and rhinos to deal with air to air threats and a B-2 to put two GBU-57 30,000lbs busters into that facility! Mission Complete, RTB and knock it off!....LOL!

[@orlock20]

Just carry a couple of AGM158-er and launch them fire them from 570 miles away. If you are very scared, use the XR version and shoot them from 1200 miles from the target. Chances are there are stealth versions or they could make them for this mission.

[@richardpoliah3632]

"This is what happens when you throw the NATOPS in the trashcan." Hahahaha. I enjoy these reviews so much. Love this channel.

[@bobbonniol]

I think you fellas may have missed the premise here. The simulated practice isn't in a somehow similar piece of terrain...They are practicing for the actual route in a much wider valley nearby to (I am guessing) Miramar... That's why they are working so hard, and that's why Payback hits the 'simulated' wall, and not a real one. Love these videos BTW. You guys are awesome

[@motorcyclevdiaries]

I like the amount of pause before Mover said no. 😂🤣

[@MattinhoGG]

"Well she's dead too." That one gave me a chuckle. Love these videos guys 👍

[@TempleofAmon666]

Mover, I get your sense of humor. I love it, please don’t change.

[@ruthannwawrow]

I have watched all 8 of the Fighter Pilots React to TOP GUN Maverick videos you made with Gonky on Maverick and have enjoyed them all. This one is by far my favourite. :) My favourite moment: Mover: Actually... Me: *roars with laughter* Thanks to both of you for providing all the information you did. I have seen Maverick 3 times - and thought it was the best movie I have seen in a long time - before finding your channel and am looking forward to seeing it again after watching your videos.

[@c1ph3rpunk]

I’m still waiting for one of the characters to say “it’s like beggars canyon back home”.

[@Giggle_5]

11:32, that was Jim when he changed his appearance to melt Dwight’s brain 😂😂😂

[@NateHKerr]

I think I crack up more in these videos than anything. Mover, your humor is top notch my friend. Well done on this series lol

[@schumy1975]

absolutely, you speak my mind :)

[@ericbrown1101]

His humor goes over so many people's heads lol

[@topkrut8391]

I love how you ended it with the NATOPS comment lmao

[@gregoryf9299]

Interesting comment about the bird strike! Canadian Snowbird went down from a bird strike a few years ago after takeoff, but obviously an older single engine plane.

[@fnglert]

Conclusion: never watch a movie about something you're an expert in.

[@Flipper-mno13]

As Hannibal from the A-Team would say, " I love it when a plan comes together." As Mad Murdock would say, "what plan, there was a plan?" 😆 This was the best one yet. I am so loving these.👍🥰

[@Mconzola]

The “is that Jim from the office?” Made me laugh out loud 😂😂

[@SarcastSempervirens]

I like the fact that "the best god damn pilots in the world" who've been flying for 10 years almost get heart attacks after a bird strike induced superpanic mode.

[@Tank50us]

I'm a bit late to this, but even if you're trained for something, you never know how you'll actually handle it until it happens.

[@tbhockeyboy]

"Coyote g-locs again" 🤣 i lost it

[@Cykob0b]

on the one hand i'm like, man, it's just a movie. on the other, i love seeing you guys rip it apart lol

[@fellowkrieger457]

Maverick never told them, but they go there with aircraft instead of Tomahawk airstrike, for style points 😎.

[@DoomRulz]

The scene in which Hangman mouths off to Mav and Rooster in the ready room definitely made me furrow my brow. Like, how the hell does a lieutenant get away with speaking to a superior officer like that? I mean, for someone like me who knows dick about aviation, that was one of the few moments in the film I knew for sure was unrealistic lol

[@tylerchapman7846]

It could be because hangman thought rooster was there only because of mav even though mav didn't want rooster on the mission

[@amorluciano]

Hangman is Iceman son in the movie

[@amorluciano]

@@charliesanders6930 yes i have watched the movie, also an interview with the cast as the actor said that Tom approached him to play Hangman the son of Iceman.

[@nollix]

I love Gonky in these videos, he has great chemistry with you. Also the NATOPS comment at the end was hilarious

[@venom_motoring]

Definitely found it a bit ridiculous when Phoenix was "shocked" at losing hydraulic pressure after extinguishing both engines. Also the whole sustained g's after going vertical was skeptical at best.

[@peterensor9689]

This is fantastic guys. great info and some really funny moments. literally called it 25:25 right as you reported "and.... G-Loc'd again" haha. great work!

[@baghdaddymike6669]

Mover: *deep breath* *pause* “That was stupid” The Universe: “Disappointed Father Reaction” unlocked.

[@GaminganimalCoUk]

I appreciate everyone of your videos Mover, for someone that will never experience flying a fighter jet your video's are probably the best understanding of what it's really like without actually doing it, top work and much respect for your service.

[@taurusguy9305]

As a regular dude who loves watching movies and no experience of fighter jet plane stuffs I don't have issues of this particular movie, wether realistic or not, it still is a great movie in my opinion. I respect and understand your side about the movie. Great reaction and analysis guys.

[@Amar7605]

Watching these series of Top Gun Maverick videos are a lot of fun! Thank you for doing them, Mover and Gonky! I love learning about reality vs fiction.

[@salahfeddaoui1820]

"that was not a cobra, that was not a cobra" Lmao

[@Guycjohnsen]

I love the banter! Make sure you explain your acronyms more. These videos have been so fun to watch!!

[@destroyer9817]

Honestly, Hangman turned out to be one of my favorite characters.

[@dparrish77]

Aaaaannnnnddd he's g-locked again. I laughed pretty hard at that point. 🤣🤣

[@atigerclaw]

Funny part about the timeline that is pushed to speed up the strike. 1: The Navy cares about the enemy's remote, inhospitable doom valley enough to worry about irradiating it in the first place. 2: Treating a nuclear enrichment facility as if it doesn't take MONTHS to process even a few kilograms of material. "Oh, we have to hit the place before they get their first shipment!" "Why?" "Because then it'll have material in it!" "How is that a problem?" "They'll be able to process weapons grade uranium!" "...In what universe does a centrifuge get you weapons grade uranium in five minutes?" I'd be going: 'Hey, why don't we wait for the first shipment to arrive, then bomb it at our leisure? Then they're not just down an enrichment facility, but they've also lost the raw resources of their entire first shipment!'

[@triplemoyagames4195]

Because blowing up Uranium isn't exactly environmentally friendly, especially if they have enough to justify an enrichment plant. Plus it's better to destroy the facility that takes ages to build then shipments that can take weeks to arrive

[@atigerclaw]

@@triplemoyagames4195 Like I said, as if the NAVY is going to care about the environmental status of hostile country's extremely hostile mountain valley. And, I think you missed the part where we're STILL blowing up the facility, but with a shipment IN it.

[@triplemoyagames4195]

@@atigerclaw but they explain that in the film. They don't want to contaminate the area in radiation

[@atigerclaw]

@@triplemoyagames4195 Like I _said:_ As if the navy ACTUALLY cares about said valley. Also, you're not going to contaminate the area in radiation. You're going to implode an underground cavern and bury it in a hundred thousand tons of rock.

[@MW-km2uj]

"...aaaaaand he's GLOC again" This made me cackle a lot, cause a friend and I were wondering the same thing. Severe yet controlled change causes GLOC but the mad, semi-conscious YANK of the stick, far more severe than the initial problem when he's only partway conscious, that doesn't???

[@brianrandol]

Lol... Jim from the office. I'm dead because "Didn't go so well did it"

[@JoshWalker1]

@ 26:14 - Trade every second your engines are still making useful thrust for altitude. Altitude = options. Longer glide distance, more time to try a restart, more time to choose a ditch location... this was a great reflex imo

[@CWLemoine]

In a Viper, yes. In a Hornet, not necessarily.

[@JoshWalker1]

@@CWLemoine Interesting! What is the difference?

[@CWLemoine]

@@JoshWalker1 two engines vs one. Losing both engines is exceedingly rare, but the initial action in a multi-engine aircraft isn't to trade airspeed for altitude immediately.

[@JoshWalker1]

@@CWLemoine Oh yeah, agree. But iirc the whole thing about that scene was that it was a dual-engine event from the beginning? (Which I found comically implausible in and of itself, but which made the reaction make sense to me.)

[@CWLemoine]

It started off single engine.

[@ZGundam83]

This feels similar to when you hand in a paper and the professor is taking a red pen to everything.😂 I still love hearing what the filmmakers got right and what they got wrong.

[@Wayneswerth]

"She's dead too, her ghost" had me ROLLING

[@blakecole501st]

I have to correct you on one thing mover Phoenix and Bob are totally good to go on this mission they took advice from Topper Harley and got the coverage. "But I'm paying it off at ten bucks a week. And I wouldn't be doing that if I'd gotten that extra collision coverage."

[@thewebhead6977]

"Coyote's still pulling 12 g's" - one of the best Gonky quotes of all time. It kills me every time!

[@jaysenpackard938]

Listening to the commentary, understanding the inaccuracies by the actual pilots, is pretty fn cool to say the least. Nothing screams American pride as much as witnessing a Fighter Jet in person. This movie franchise reminds us of the patriots who are often unreported by our culture. For that alone, it is commendable. It's inaccuracies are tolerable. It reminds us to recognize the courage, dedication, and selflessness of these few, brave, FUKIN PATRIOTS!!!...thank you, and the 🍻 are on us!!

[@chickenluverful]

I love watching you and Gonky talk shop talk shop and the stories and moments that your reminded of.

[@XDSingularity]

Its me or this entire mission could be acomplished by a B2 spirit? ok, anyways it's just a movie, and I love it.

[@cup_and_cone]

Could have been accomplished with zero planes...

[@OrtadragoonX]

@@cup_and_cone yelp. A Tomahawk from a ship off shore. Problem solved.

[@Amar7605]

Or ground-penetrating Tomahawks.

[@bobjoned3398]

Same Air Boss that failed to have Hawkeye AWACS launched in the first movie. Otherwise the Northrup MiG F5s would've gotten close.

[@Tank50us]

@@bobjoned3398 On that... one could argue that the thing they were (insert distance from) wasn't the carrier, but the ship they were there to protect (The Communication Ship S.S. Lathen), and Bulls was likely the ship itself. Also, the E-2 and E-3 at the time of filming could data-link what their radar screens were seeing to other assets (such as the carrier), and thus the carrier can see what's going on. Notice that the only communication that the Carrier has with any of the planes is at launch, when Hollywood/Wolfman get shot down (dispatching SAR), launching Mav, and finally, the recovery at the end.

[@GregKrsak]

I've been onboard a submarine during a whalestrike. It was a gentle "foom...foom..foom.foom" followed by a "what was that?" and "just a whale."

[@Yourmothersmuff]

As former a child who grew up thinking that I would be a fighter pilot someday...I really love you guys

[@pogo1140]

Back when the F-14 was new (1st sea tour with VF-1 and 2) they would assign a corridor, x deg from carrier, any aircraft in this corridor was sending out a challenge to take on all comers. So on the way back to the carrier, the F-14's A-7's and A-6 would all fly that corridor and dogfight anyone who showed up. Does that still happen?

[@Tank50us]

not so much 'dogfight', but intercept. And yes, it still happens. The most recent case was when Iran sent a drone to take a look at USS Eisenhower (CVN-69), and it was 'intercepted'.... by an SH60. The Iranians tried to flex with a picture of the ship taken by the drone... we flexed back with a picture taken from the Sea Hawk looking down at said drone.

[@christiananstes4161]

Im not in military myself but studying, watching learning about military stuff is something i have enjoyed since i was a kid including many years on various ww1, ww2, and modern flight sims. Even i was confused about the high g climbout and said it at the cinema where are the g's coming from, your already pointed at the sky lol 🤣

[@donttrythisathome.2981]

You as pilots would know but the audience who is watching does not know. This is why I believe Mavric is making these statements.

[@macleunin]

The bird strike scene also gave me anxiety, I knew the scene was all wrong and they shouldn´t have crashed, her reaction looked very messy. I was waiting for this reaction to see what was actually the checklist for the F18 in this situation.

[@cammedgoat4025]

Also why she was red caution lights instead of getting warning.

[@BjornStyrmir]

I like that….. “deep breath in and exhale no” 🤣🤣🤣

[@aavvv_]

Love these reactions. Thank you for your perspective, gentlemen.

[@VoluptuousB]

Hey there Pros I have a question: what exactly is a coffin corner?

[@Bender2497]

Spot on. This series has been enjoyable. Thanks!

[@WildBillKelso32]

I’m watching this while wearing my Top Gun socks 🤣

[@Pwj579]

The biggest thing was, why didn't they utilize the Growlers as part of the strike packages? I think the Navy didn't want to highlight their capabilities.

[@rogue8853]

" you know what... this is what happens when you throw the NATOPS in the trash can" I laughed out loud. perfect line before the cut haha.

[@nikefreak6257]

I think all though maverick is speaking to the pilots about the G forces it is intended for us audience because a majority of who went for the movie were not aviators. I think it’s a more creative choice than sticking to the reality. Again I presume this is why it was done.

[@dct124]

17:28 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 funniest part of the whole video. The disappointment on Mover face 😭

[@Parabueto]

I wonder with the bird strike if the species makes any difference to the likelihood of damage, or even blind luck. I work with a guy who's serviced more aircraft than I know about. He had a Bucaneer take birds through both engines. One engine was (more or less) fine. The other lit up like a bonfire and they couldn't find a single turbine blade in it when it came back. Rhino is half a century newer though so it's not exactly like for like.

[@Tank50us]

depending on the plane, yes. I've seen footage of a 767 take a sparrow to one engine, and that was it for that engine (plane landed safely though). The one thing I think these guys are missing is that while Gonk may have taken a bird, it needs to be understood that if the bird is small enough, not enough will get through the intake of a Hornet to seriously affect the engine. However, given the altitude they were at, you're only going to see large birds there, and if one hits just right, enough will get through to damage an engine. And if a blade broke off and got shot into the second engine, that would've FOD'd it as well. Luck, physics, bird size, and so much more all play a part.

[@Parabueto]

@Tank50us I hadn't thought of an uncontained engine failure, even though I use one as a case study in regular briefings.

[@Tank50us]

@@Parabueto Yeah, UCEFs are a major vulnerability of these types of aircraft due to their engine placement. Though it is certainly well known, and there are measures in place to mitigate it, the reality is, they are still possible. And in the event of a hit from enemy fire, there's a greater chance of the hit damaging both engines. But, as always, it's a game of tradeoffs. On the one hand, losing an engine is less likely to induce yaw, and in the case of a carrier plane, it does make the aircraft a bit more compact. BUT, it comes with the risk of losing both engines in a UCEF, and losing both engines if the enemy scores a hit.

[@Fred_Nickles]

"No. You're not G-locking. Stop that" Spit my drink out 😄

[@shawn2443]

Y’all crack me up. Thanks for the laughs. 🇺🇸

[@debracawthron4137]

Big thanks!

[@CarterCovers55]

So, as someone who knows nothing about it, what would be the actual emergency procedure Phoenix should have followed in the event she had an engine fire due to bird strike/other obstruction?

[@AMAR0506]

I think it was realistic of them to lost the hydraulics after losing their right engine as it is what powers it . They still had control after losing the left engine . In DCS and even MSFS 2020, if I’m low on fuel , I sometimes tend to cut power to my left engine . Yes the aircraft drifts a bit towards left but that’s manageable. Turn them back on right before landing . Seems unreasonable but works and saves fuel. ( DCS knowledge 😅)

[@captaincurd2681]

I have served ten years as a fighter pilot at the Falcon BMS, Busan South Korea and I can tell you that the whole TOP GUN BFM was horse spit !

[@pemigris]

You guys are simply great (sometime it feels like you are like Statler and Waldorf :-) )

[@TheJer-jg4nz]

They need to make a movie where Mover has to fly behind enemy lines to rescue Margo Robbie, the final scene would be Mover flying home with Margo sitting on his lap while he look at the camera with a big grin and a wink.......fade to black.........

[@Planehazza]

Let's get a beer ready for this ...

[@wormarmageddon]

I'm already set