Everything Wrong With Top Gun: Maverick in 23 Minutes or Less

[@A.F.Whitepigeon]

You know, I actually did believe they might kill Maverick at the end. With the number of times they hammered home how he was being forced into retirement, how obsolete he was becoming, how this was his last mission... It really felt like a "one last ride"-type of deal. It didn't seem entirely out-of-the-question to have him heroically die in action, passing the torch on to the next generation.

[@JDizaster]

I still argue that it would have been a better ending to have Maverick simply die in battle saving the life of Goose's son. It was a great ending as-is. But end it with Maverick going down after taking a bullet for Rooster? You'd have needed to mop me out of the theater.

[@xMRxZEROx]

@@JDizaster I agree. First time I saw the movie I thoight they actually did kill him. And I was okay with it, weirdly. It would have been poetic. Maverick having all this guilt over Gooses death. Taking a father away from Rooster. Attempting to fill that void. Protecting him by washing him out of the military. Coming to terms with thst fact Rooster really wanted to walk in his father's footsteps. Picking him for the mission even though he feared he'd die. And then giving his life to make sure he gets back home. It would have been beautiful. But that being said, I'm still happy with how they did end it. Because we got that epic final scene where Rooster flew backseat in an F14 with Mav, literally playing his father's role. Such a good movie.

[@melissapyle7879]

What I thought too. But then tom said they couldn't get rid of him that easy.

[@litneyloxan]

Some people would have lost their minds over it and be louder than us that critically think

[@mityaboy4639]

@@xMRxZEROx in his father’s footsteps, you mean : goosesteps :)

[@doit9575]

This movie single-handedly saved some movie theaters from going out of business

[@lawnmowerman2199]

Very true words!

[@Noone-jn3jp]

Temporarily

[@mikewaite3746]

Oh absolutely they should have re-released it again for the Christmas or Thanksgiving weekend would have been way better than wauconda no ever

[@ryanreviews8566]

really? if that's true, that would be amazing

[@yesterdaysrifleman]

@@mikewaite3746 they are!

[@Bender2497]

Retired F/A-18 pilot here. Yes, targeting systems (radars) can get confused when they look down into "ground clutter" to try to make out the target from the background. Normally up at altitude it's not an issue, but down low the terrain can make it more difficult to obtain/maintain a radar lock.

[@JostVanWair]

Pulse Doppler?

[@Sevastous]

Lol at the dogfight range they will be using R-73's not Radar Guided munitions. and that getting tricked by the valley bull fucking shit

[@Moonstalker46]

I like F/A-18s

[@SA80TAGE]

Love the movie, and mad respect for actual pilots ( I never took the leap into military service but always wanted to be a fighter pilot)... but I have a legit question for you as a pilot.... why would they use F/A-18's for this mission and not something more modern like the F-22 or F-35? Especially when they know they'd be up against SU-57's.... F/A-18 seems like kind of a dumb choice for the mission (no disrespect, it has an amazing record). Have you flown any others that you feel would be more suitable for this mission?

[@archiealderson9057]

Not with 5th generation technology

[@Driggsdamonstah]

I remember seeing some behind the scenes videos of this movie. The actors actually had to be trained like military personnel including survival training and everything in order for everything to be shot properly because they were flying like actual naval aviators while getting footage for the movie. Really shows their dedication when getting to fly with Tom Cruise.

[@matthewkendall8592]

The actors weren’t flying, the aircraft used were 2 seat F/A-18s

[@IamaPERSON]

@@heyguys4571 leech.

[@LucianDevine]

@@matthewkendall8592 But they still had to go through the training so their bodies could handle the punishment. Tom Cruise insisted on it so that they could use as many practical effects as possible.

[@347Jimmy]

@@matthewkendall8592 you're still flying in the passenger's seat, whether you're the pilot or not G forces don't discriminate

[@sapphirevilya]

I thought there was way too little behind the scenes features. I definitely expected more to be included, considering the director said they shot more footage than Peter Jackson did for his entire LotR trilogy. I want to see much more of that. What we got was great, and edited very well, but I wanted to see more!

[@personM4N]

5:33 - the REAL sin is that Ed Harris didn’t tell Maverick his military record was long and distinguished so Maverick could respond, “so is my Johnson.”

[@Coenen2517]

Watched the original who knows how many times as a kid and didn't "get" that exchange. Revisited it when I was in college, and it slayed me.

[@TrevorMoses312]

[@amitychief3061]

By far the best line in the original movie and perhaps the best line in movie history.

[@djsonicc]

"I do my own stunts, sir" * puts on Aviators *

[@MrSbfan2000]

It makes sense that a plane that is built to go Mach 9 or 10 would not rely on the old pilot/seat ejection system. It would have a system that would eject the cockpit module as a means to keep the pilot safe from the forces involved. That's how I chose to explain to myself the ejection at such high velocity.

[@christerjackson9589]

@@introboy1 F-111 Aardvark.

[@sydneywellington_cazadora]

at March 10.4, the eject system doesn't keep the pilot safe from the forces involved. only Maverick! the rest of the movie is really appreciated by professional pilots.

[@stoicdruid2499]

Mach 10? You’re not living through that. Period.

[@operatorismail6038]

@@sydneywellington_cazadora It can depending on how it's designed. It could be like the ejection system on the F-111 Aardvark which ejects the entire cockpit. Plus we could see Maverick harshly pull back on the throttle so he would face less forces from the sudden decrease in speed.

[@mothmagic1]

I chose the same rationale. The only concept that makes sense is the crew evacuation module as in the B1-b and F-111

[@jedsithor]

The entire mission is basically the attack on the first Death Star in reverse in that in Top Gun the trench run happens first and the dog fight happens second. Honestly, I'm surprised the ending of the video didn't include the rebel briefing from Star Wars overlayed with the mission briefing here.

[@KiloOneThree]

Pitch Meetings channel made that exact reference 😂

[@Cpt_JohnRackham]

I recommend you watch ScreenJunkie's "Top Gun Maverick Pitch Meeting" "So they're gonna do a Star Wars?"

[@KiloOneThree]

@@Cpt_JohnRackham I know you meant Screen Rant, as Junkies is the Honest Trailers - put them all together, these make up the best ‘reviews’ on KZbin 🤣

[@88porpoise]

@@KiloOneThree To be fair it is a pretty obvious comparison when fighters fly down a canyon and the character has to just believe in himself to hit an impossible shot into an exhaust port to destroy the enemy WMD.

[@Cpt_JohnRackham]

@@KiloOneThree Yes, thank you.

[@gesangmanggala9966]

I don't care how many sins you gave to this movie. If there's one thing this video achieved, it's that it makes me want to see the movie again.

[@cmnyc3493]

The guys loved this movie

[@covenantslayergaming6362]

i have watched it 7 times so far (twice in theatre but the rest at home) and i intend to watch it again this week

[@ItsLuke350]

haha, Blueray dvd enters the chat

[@floridaboz1]

@@covenantslayergaming6362 I just watched it last night at home, and it really made me want to go to a IMAX and watch it. I am not even that big on going to theaters

[@austinkub2337]

my condolences to your brain

[@jasonw4944]

The biggest thing for me is that at no point do the recruits successfully complete any of the training segments for the mission. Failed at dogfighting, failed at navigating the canyon in time, failed at hitting the target. But don't worry, they'll put it all together on the day of the actual mission.

[@awilliams765]

True. Maverick is a horrible instructor. Hurricane called it correctly, Maverick was supposed to get everyone ready for the mission, but all he did was show them how great he was compared to them. I enjoyed the movie, but sometimes you rewatch things and your viewpoint changes.

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

@@awilliams765 The entire movie was like that.

[@ashter_7266]

*ding*

[@colliric]

The point is they succeeded in learning the mission parameters and under real life or death pressure were able to complete the mission anyway. He knows they're capable of completing the mission anyway. It's kinda the main theme of the film that they fail because of the false pressure. He's teaching them how to get home safely. If they succeeded at all in the trial run, they would have been overconfident in the actual mission and would not have been aware of the dangers involved.

[@palmer9115]

I disagree. The pilots needed to believe it could be done, and Maverick proved it. We are our own worst enemy with our internal chatter, disbelief, and lack of self-confidence.

[@DeusExNihilum]

This movie could have 10,000 sins, and even less logical sense, and I'd still think it was one of the best films of recent years. Each and every sin has a badass moment to wash it away with

[@KennyNGA]

Youre easy to please

[@lukereyes6266]

@@KennyNGA you're impossible to please, no wonder you're miserable

[@garythompson1345]

@@KennyNGAthis is by far one of the best movies made in recent years.

[@KennyNGA]

@@garythompson1345 why? the story was dumb too many plot holes i knew that in advance just wanted to see some fighter jets in action but then they didnt even use anything real except from the f14 and the f18 if you rate a movie good just because they show an f18 go watch an air force advertisement

[@summertyme5748]

It's a cheap nostalgia bait. Copies 3rd act of Star Wars right down to shooting the hole in the death Star, use the force "rooster", and Han Solo Hangman coming back at the last second to tip the battle. If it wins an Oscar for anything - they should give it right to George Lucas.

[@trinaq]

I'm so glad that they brought back Val Kilmer, and gave Iceman a dignified death, as well as writing his real life condition into the script.

[@jwseibert1059]

Val Kilmer is actually ill?

[@LucianDevine]

100%, and not just brought back either. Tom Cruise was NOT going to make this movie if Val couldn't reprise his role as Iceman.

[@LucianDevine]

@@jwseibert1059 Yes, throat cancer, similar to what Iceman has, though they don't mention it much in movie.

[@VespoLiveGaming]

If only the Willow writers took note of this instead of taking a dump on Val Kilmer's character in that series.

[@flyingwombat59]

@@jwseibert1059 he lost vocal cords to throat cancer

[@SirBoycie]

A glaring thing is that on the actual mission they flew under bridges like they didn't know they were there...in training there was no mention they would have to. You'd think the fact they would have to fly very fast through bridge arches would be have been known beforehand and quite an important part of the simulated training haha!

[@Keimzelle]

That was a complete howler. They have satellites for imaging, and nowadays radar satellites are sensitive enough to detect a truck somebody has parked in a forest. There's no way a bridge could have escaped their attention.

[@DjMikeWatt]

The admiral making the mission "more achievable" was because he wasn't concerned with them coming home. You can take 4 minutes to get to the target if you're ok with the enemy fighters being there when you come out. I'm surprised you didn't get that.

[@summertyme5748]

Or just send missiles and drones.

[@michait3866]

@@summertyme5748 Facility was protected by SAMs, so missiles would be shot down. Drones I think aren't capable to make such tight maneuvers at high speed since they're remotely controlled by pilot in air base. On other hand it's funny that facility was protected by SAMs, and airfield was not.

[@floijd]

I would say that depends on the generation of fighters the enemy will send. Correction: It depends on the generation of the pilots they will send.

[@summertyme5748]

@@michait3866 "Facility was protected by SAMs," The irony of your statement is that Surface to Air Missiles are primarily designed to shoot down 'slower' planes, and not at other 'missiles' which are just as fast and so incredibly difficult to hit. Generally ballistic missiles are used to destroy the SAMs- and then the planes achieve air superiority. In this film they don't even try to take out the sams, they just try to fly low inside canyons to hide from them. And which in turn implies that Iran (this is Iran) simply needs to place missiles at the bottom of the canyons or even shoot them from mobile ground based missiles (trucks, tanks, or even hand held). I'm sorry but the film is just bullshix when they do nothing to take the sams and pretend they can simultaneously - a) have slower manned plans just dodge them or use flares and shrapnel to fool them, and yet.. b) you can't have drones and missiles destroy them. [because] No that's *exactly* what the military would do. Nice try. But doesn't jibe.🤣

[@summertyme5748]

As a last obvious point - even the idea that the SAM missiles would shoot down other missiles - is subject to brute force attack via overwhelming them until the SAMS are *gone* or.......until they miss intercept one missile and then they are destroyed. The difference is between exposing your pilots to being shot down - or not.

[@definitelynicholascage6974]

Sin Counter #16. When I was a marine access control point guard on a conus military base all officers 0-6 and above got unimpeded access and could generally breeze through the gate. Not at full speed mind you. But if Maverick went through that gate on a regular basis and post orders haven’t changed in the last 20 years then him driving through the gate without stopping is possible. Boy am I happy I explained all that.

[@PeaceNPassion50]

Ding!

[@general_wcj9438]

That seems like a security issue honestly

[@austinkub2337]

I'm familiar with base security to some extent, and I have a feeling that this would probably be a major security violation somewhere along the line, especially given that this is not some base but a top-secret testing facility of all places.

[@franksanta-teresa971]

Back in 1986 when I was ADAF, to enter any of the gates at Edwards AFB, you needed a DOD base sticker. As for people riding motorcycles, helmets were also required to enter the base. I also seem to recall, that the Navy, also required motorcyclists entering their bases to wear helmets as well as "roadguard" vests too!!!

[@definitelynicholascage6974]

@@franksanta-teresa971 yeah that was still a thing in early 2000’s.

[@dougim]

I genuinely enjoy that Bob’s call sign is “Bob”.

[@mattjacomos2795]

it's his name, backwards...

[@pagangodx6890]

I took my wife of 25 years to this movie on our anniversary. We made the mistake of going to see the last Jedi a few years ago. Haven’t gone to see a movie since then. Totally worth it

[@cmnyc3493]

You’ve missed a lot of great movies that are way better in theater. EEAAO comes to mind for this year.

[@willhinds3632]

@@cmnyc3493 I absolutely agree!

[@bigorange2082]

I haven’t been to a movie since the Last Jedi either. I’m still in therapy.

[@racool911]

Well if you're wife wasn't a huge star wars fan I'm sure the Last Jedi should've been a fun time at least

[@chrisbrown8748]

You’ve missed tons of great movies but saw this POS and liked it🤣🤣🤣. My god people have horrible taste.

[@Mannchini]

Maverick proving the mission can be flown should have had at least 10 sins off.

[@SomeRandomGuy789]

Also Hangman saving Rooster and Maverick

[@branlopgar]

Not really, because any instructor does it *before* the students get demotivated. Of course they probably didn't allow him to fly the F/A-18 like that because they knew, Mav being Mav, he was going to fuck the plane up in the demonstration, but then having the students practice the high G ascent is pointless as well since they're also risking to damage the plane. If anything, the sin should have been removed by Mav hitting the target with no laser guiding, which is the explanation why it is possible for Rooster to hit it blind in the real mission.

[@dallasyap3064]

@@branlopgar Maverick did lase the target though

[@randomaccount4950]

@@branlopgar he never shot it blind, idk what movie you watched

[@theriusvalor]

11, minimum.

[@dianadora7485]

“Thomas the plane engine” might be the all-time greatest pun joke to ever have been told

[@sweetlisa22]

You forgot to explain why Hondo was on the aircraft carrier too. The man has 3 distinct jobs in this film. First he is running the top secret testing program, then he is in charge of counting push ups at Top Gun, and finally he is the Deck Chief on a Carrier off the coast of the Country "Fifth Generation Fighter"

[@summertyme5748]

Someone has to count those damned push ups! 🤣

[@rbz1]

since he was Mav's guy...it's like you working backstage and give your buddy a lanyard to get in also. So they just threw him a green jacket so he could go out there and celebrate too...".here Hondo, put this on" lol

[@dankgaming452]

Actually country that they were fighting was Iran as Evaluated by Matpat from Movie Theory

[@nickbot3520]

​@@dankgaming452 A-fucking-doy? No shit? I thought that was beyond painfully obvious, we don't need Matthew Patthew to tell us that.

[@outrider425]

ah yes my favorite country „5th generation fighter“

[@alexburke5376]

One of the best cinematic experiences of my life

[@emb5048]

Agree 100 f**king percent. I never go to movies. But my bff texted me the trailer and it was unspoken. IMAX was orgasmic.

[@RA-ui8yw]

@Alex Burke one of the best films of history for sure!

[@emb5048]

Who else would just watch a movie of Tom Cruise and Miles Teller cracking off against each other for 2 hours…

[@GRAFRU68]

Transformers 2 Revenge of the Fallen SHAT ON THIS MOVIE

[@brettbaratheon9776]

Hands down one of the best theater experiences I’ve ever had. It was incredible.

[@doktorluftwaffles2861]

Here’s a sin for you, the US Navy says that aviator helmets need to be covered at least 80% with white reflective tape for emergency situations

[@LeonardoKlotz]

PRACTICAL EFFECTS BEFORE CGI That's my motto

[@finalfight505]

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[@KiloOneThree]

Doh! Apart from the back seat filmed as front seat, a lot of it was CGI - pretty much all the multiple F/A-18 sequences, the F-14, and the SU-57s. The final scenes with the actors in the two seater F/A-18s, both were back seat filmed and CG’d to make it look correct.

[@bradwhite5884]

I always love practical effects, but when it comes to a multi-million fighter jets, well there is a bit of a compromise there

[@e.enriquez4589]

Safety before practical is my motto

[@conserva-chan2735]

@@KiloOneThree fucking Putin not giving the film crew actual Su-27s

[@dang3r611]

The opening credits gave me the most glee when I first saw this in the theater.

[@finalfight505]

Here is full vid you have been waiting for so long: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKTRaKpvgZyMnMU.

[@RA-ui8yw]

@DANG3R I agree! Such a good starting point

[@GeoEstes]

It's the music. It had those same opening notes drawing you in before the main theme kicked off.

[@quinnhouk5369]

Same. And I watched the first one the morning of then we went to the theater and saw the other one

[@pigeonpoo1823]

@@quinnhouk5369 wow, so you got to listen to Danger Zone like 9 times in one day. I jest. The first scene was fricking awesome

[@melbguy1]

It would have been funny if when Mav said "Talk to me Goose", Goose's ghost answered like Obi Wan in Return of the Jedi and said "Mav, my afterlife is so boring. If I have to sing Kumbaya one more time!"

[@LucianDevine]

When it comes to ejecting from the test plane at mach 10.4, I think it's speculated, since it's not shown, that the entire cockpit ejects to protect him from the speed and the environment. As for buzzing the tower, I think that was to make sure the crew had time to prepare for the landing since he had no front landing gear and no tail hook. So he relayed his situation they had to relay it to the ground crew who then had to get Hangman out of the way, pull the tail hook cable and raise the barricade. So while he was likely closer than he had to be when he buzzed the tower, I think he was also that close so that he could visually confirm those things.

[@icecold9511]

Actually buzzing the tower is standard Case 1 recovery to visually ensure the deck is clear. One of the few thing he actually did right, and he gets trashed for it.

[@brettbaratheon9776]

I watched a video on how it is plausible for him to eject. He also shut everything down and reduced thrust immediately. The high G turn was also over like 1-1/2 states wide.

[@347Jimmy]

@@Mewithabeard as Scott Manley pointed out in his video, to be flying at Mach 10, you're gonna be at a high enough altitude that ejecting is pretty safe There's not enough air up there to hurt you, ejecting at Mach 1 at sea level would be more likely to rip you apart

[@GeoEstes]

I'd buy that if he hadn't buzzed the tower at such a high speed. You slow down if you want to inspect something.

[@icecold9511]

@@347Jimmy The friction is still real at that altitude. Pointed out in the same video.

[@johnscott268]

One of the most glaring sins of this movie is that TOPGUN is now at NAS Fallon in NEVADA, nowhere near North Island. I guess they changed that tiny little massive detail so they could get beach scenes in. And I double dog dare anyone to ride a motorcycle onto a DoD facility sans helmet.

[@icecold9511]

Or a taxiway

[@roguishpaladin]

I imagine that having to explain that Miramar is now Marine, not Navy, would detract from the flow of the movie. It's forgivable. That being said, a person I watched the movie with was so confused by the North Island scenes. They visit North Island for work and has never had an experience like what the movie depicts.

[@JimmyMon666]

And there ain't much in Fallon Nevada for good times. I live in Nevada, I know there isn't anything decent there. Back when I was in the Navy, you had to wear reflective vests in addition to a helmet. I'm not sure if they still require that. It's been over 20 years since I served. People hated that rule when I was in.

[@mindyschocolate]

@@JimmyMon666 hey, don’t knock the Thunderdome. Chairs through windows may have happened.

[@mindyschocolate]

@@JimmyMon666 they definitely require helmets, although the bases did do away with reflective gear.

[@NaturalFork]

"Is this the only bolt on this plane that needs tightening?" hahahhaha

[@RedHeadKevin]

1:11 The "Riker Maneuver" came about because Jonathan Frakes had a back injury. It's possible that Maverick had a similar injury. Ejecting from a jet aircraft often involves spinal compression and even cracked vertebrae.

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

Or a cracked neck, in case of Goose

[@williamlodge3666]

Who exactly ejected from an actual/real aircraft??? Nobody

[@theartofsniping4826]

@William Lodge he said, Maverick, as in the character, not the actor

[@bonecag3]

That’s a pretty cool detail, I wondered why he sat like that

[@richard77231]

And we get the extra Riker callback in his line to Shelby from Best of Both Worlds at the end!

[@josephotoole9088]

Just FYI that final scene does contain a Merlin. The engine in that P51 is a Rolls Royce Merlin.

[@Erti-SamC]

cool :D

[@sapphirevilya]

You got Cinemasins! *Ding*

[@nolandavis9040]

Thinking the same thing 😂

[@__The_Real_V__]

NEEEEERRRRRRRRRD

[@88porpoise]

Which is a sin on its own. No way in hell does Maverick, a man who defines his entire life as a Navy Fighter Pilot, own and fly an Air Force fighter.

[@jacobsilasramsey]

"Using the wrench at an uncomfortable angle instead of getting a step ladder" - it is Tom Cruise, he was on a step ladder. He is just short.

[@eggheadsanonymous9634]

It's all about getting the next generation into jetplanes and volleyball just like the old movie did in the past!

[@marley9800]

You know it when Jeremy loves a movie

[@racool911]

Yea the bias becomes painfully clear

[@SleepyJord]

I always wondered how in the bar, they didn’t think that maverick might be someone important with all his obvious patches on his jacket

[@sapphirevilya]

Best movie I've seen in years. Bought my first 4K Steelbook of it because of how much I loved it!

[@shadowwhogames6063]

You are not immune to propaganda

[@sapphirevilya]

@@shadowwhogames6063 Liking a movie enough to buy a physical copy (which I haven't done in years) is considered propaganda to you?

[@I_m_p_r_e_z_a]

@@shadowwhogames6063 you dont have to believe everything in a movie is an actual representation of x military in order to like it

[@themimsy]

@@shadowwhogames6063 yo mamas not immune to propaganda

[@williamlusk52]

The scene with Cruise doing the 'Kessel Run' bit was shot ONCE. The Pilot REFUSED to do it a second time, it was purportedly so ridiculously insane, flying-wise. Chalk one more up for Cruise... nuttier than an actual pilot.

[@draeath]

Cruise *is* an actual pilot. He's had his license since 1994. The old piston aircraft he's wrenching? I believe he owns it.

[@gibz5467]

@@draeath yes he does, it's his. He even took Jennifer Connelly for a ride in the back seat

[@ShadowBanned-o_O]

Yup, that's Cruise's plane. He also took Jaymes Corden up in the air when he was on his show promoting the movie.

[@The_Trident_Master]

@@draeathHe wasn’t flying the jets though

[@jimh6813]

​@@The_Trident_Master He could have and would have flown the jets except Paramount, the film producers, the insurance providers and the US Navy said, "Oh, hell no you're not."

[@Dman222000]

You forgot one. When the enemy pilot clearly instructs Maverick to change course to 33° and Maverick claims he has no idea what those hand signals mean.

[@lashlarue59]

One thing that no one ever brings up is how a Navy captain can afford to own a $2.5 million P-51 Mustang as his personal plane that he tinkers around with on weekends.

[@tomriddle6812]

I thought it was implied he mostly built it or re-built it himself

[@LuvSubbin]

Or how the owner of a bar can afford a yacht and $300,000 1973 Porsche 911S...

[@morganottlii2390]

No family nor kids. You can save some $...

[@lashlarue59]

@@morganottlii2390 Remember in the bar scene his credit card was declined just to pay a bar tab; so that doesn't sound like a "Millionaire Next-door" kinda guy to me.

[@JFDA5458]

@@lashlarue59 That might have been Penny being sneaky in order to get Maverick to come back with the cash just to get a date with him.

[@joseda3rd354]

17:26 I’m gonna choose to believe that the fact that this film does get kinda Mission Impossible-y, especially towards the end, was intentionally woven into this sin. And honestly, that’s just solid writing from the Sins Team right there

[@winterciphers]

surprised there weren’t more death star jokes for this flight through a narrow canyon to fire a missile at an exact precise weak point to make the thing go boom and a quick escape to avoid the explosion and enemy fighters

[@Lonovavir]

The only sins for me were the missing songs (Mighty Wings, Playing with the Boys and Take my Breath Away). This means we need another Top Gun movie.

[@venn7eance925]

Wish they'd played Mighty Wings at the end instead of that hideous Lady Gaga track.

[@rustyt115]

@@venn7eance925I had to play Mighty Wings manually instead of that god awful song at the end. They also kinda over did the opening song during the opening credits.

[@dallasyap3064]

@@venn7eance925 Agree

[@oz5wob3]

Hopefully, in another 30 years, we can follow the exploits of Rooster; in Top Gun 3.

[@disciple68]

@@oz5wob3 Or a prequel featuring Maverick's dad and Viper in Vietnam.

[@Zombiesnyder13]

"LAAAANNNAAAA!!!!" "WHAT!?" "Danger Zone"

[@tadochov]

the biggest sin that seems to fly under the radar (pun intended) is that in the final dogfight, they fly low to confuse the targetting systems, so the 5th gen has to shoot with guns. then Mav does his maneuvre to get behind the enemy and the very first thing Mav does after that is take aim with his perfectly working 30+yo targetting system and launches a missile...

[@Martynde]

"Sir, is this even achievable?" Should have replied "I'll tell you after I've done it."

[@heyguys4571]

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[@JThePervertedSummoner]

"Is this achievable natty?"

[@gibz5467]

That would spoil the later part don't you think?

[@datura7040]

I watched this in theaters and I legit cried during the scene with Iceman. I enjoyed this movie so much

[@josephandrews7638]

@Datura This movie sucks more than ever. And you weren’t crying to the movie, you were just sitting next to a bowl of cut up onions.

[@oco8783]

@@josephandrews7638 🤓

[@leonardospinola926]

"Is this the only bolt on this plane that needs tightening?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Googledybunker]

For real though, this movie was SICK

[@marktaylor865]

It's a modern classic. A masterpiece of cinema. They don't make them like this anymore and it's such a breathe of fresh air. I wondered why they postponed it and it makes sense now.

[@DavidRay_40]

Breath of fresh air, not breathe of fresh air.

[@marktaylor865]

@@DavidRay_40 I hope your uncle stops molesting you. Then maybe you'll stop taking it out on stranger.

[@marktaylor865]

One of these will stick.

[@superking-nicolaslucau7252]

"A breathe of fresh air" From s movie that literally recycled every single little thing from its predecessor...

[@patricklarsen182]

My favorite movie this year!

[@phinalp]

**Samwise stabbing some Orc** Mav: "These SAMs are lethal" 😂😂😂

[@obinnaonyeije]

Huh. Didn't go for the "kids" sin on that diner scene. Even in the theater I thought for sure you'd bring it up.

[@finalfight505]

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[@obinnaonyeije]

@Bully Maguire I'm pretty convinced you're also a bot though

[@Stinger522]

Imagine the gnashing of teeth that would've followed if the movie ended with Maverick and Rooster getting arrested, court-martialed, sent to Leavenworth, and ultimately drummed out of the Navy.

[@imretro2182]

Maverick would be a war criminal ten times over at this point

[@Stinger522]

@@imretro2182 Why?

[@allanjensen1195]

Retired B 737-200 pilot here... what the hell, dude? I have 8000 hours on type flying for years in all seasons in the high Canadian arctic and never got as much as frostbitten in it. You would be hard-pressed to name a safer, sturdier, more mechanically reliable and versatile aircraft than the -200, so I am SUPER sinning your comment that we should be "grateful the '60s were a long time ago," (20:54) inferring that at least we don't have to fly in THOSE anymore.

[@ChipJohnson]

You missed one: when Maverick is kicking the pilots' asses in 2-on-1 "combat", Rooster tells Payback and Fanboy to break right while he cuts in front of Maverick. Naturally, Rooster gets "killed", and you see Payback and Fanboy saying "That should've been us" while Rooster was doing his pushups, but they should've been; Maverick states at the beginning that if he shoots one down, both planes lose. You even see it in the next scene after the three other pilots take a selfie with Rooster as he's doing his pushups and one gets "shot down". *DING*

[@Samanosuke1138]

Right, but we don’t see the outcome of that fight other than Rooster is killed. He could have said KIO right after just to prove a point. Rooster died to save his friends, even though they both lost. He eventually started killing both sets of pilots and they all had to do them

[@tetraxis3011]

Im pretty sure that the bet was whoever got shot down FIRST did 200 push ups.

[@ChipJohnson]

@@tetraxis3011 Except you see a bit later with Hangman, Phoenix, and Bob all doing push-ups on the tarmac, as well as the three that were taking selfies with Rooster when he was doing his.

[@xMRxZEROx]

This movie was one of the greatest movies in recent years. First time I saw the movie I thought they actually did kill him. And I was okay with it, weirdly. It would have been poetic. Maverick having all this guilt over Gooses death. Taking a father away from Rooster. Attempting to fill that void. Protecting him by washing him out of the military. Coming to terms with thst fact Rooster really wanted to walk in his father's footsteps. Picking him for the mission even though he feared he'd die. And then giving his life to make sure he gets back home. It would have been beautiful. But that being said, I'm still happy with how they did end it. Because we got that epic final scene where Rooster flew backseat in an F14 with Mav, literally playing his father's role. Such a good movie.

[@LividCreature]

Yea, dramatic purposes for the sake of personal drama dramatic purposes

[@xMRxZEROx]

@@LividCreature k? 🤔

[@kurtvonfricken6829]

If only life was Actually like that!

[@xMRxZEROx]

@@kurtvonfricken6829 was actually like what?

[@sethmaki1333]

Finally got around to watching this movie a couple days ago. It was FAR better than I was expecting.

[@rcslyman8929]

I mean yeah, we knew walking into this movie that it was going to be sinful as shit. Straight up playing the nostalgia card like a fifth farewell tour. And we all love it for that.

[@anthonyfernandes1656]

The friction and bedroom thinngy had me dying .🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@moritzschottke]

i just now realized that at 8:26 theres an F/A-18C Legacy Hornet in the background. At Top Gun they wouldnt have these anywhere because only the USMC uses the Legacy Hornets, the navy uses only F/A-18E/F Super Hornets, or F-35C Lightning II's as their Fighters

[@jbballaran]

22:53 Got me bawling with the 'only bolt' line right at the end there xD Your timing is IMPECCABLE, sins guy.

[@travisneill704]

I remember thinking that when I watched the movie…those six times :-)

[@Power5]

Not to mention that he is just waving around the ratchet.

[@jbballaran]

@@Power5 lol never noticed that. Quality acting right there.

[@Optimusprime240]

"Movie does not contain a Merlin or a Berlin." *Showing a P-51 which has a Merlin engine.* The ODDS of that, surely he knew when he made that joke XD

[@floaterincloud]

I said "ROLL CREDITS" out loud in the cinema when Admiral Cain said Top Gun

[@G-Unit1111]

Same!

[@MuffinMcFluffin]

He should've said: "You've been called back to Top Gun, Maverick." Then it REALLY would've been a "ROLL CREDITS" moment!

[@chef2042]

The issue of blowing up the runway was more than likely discussed closer to the actual mission. Since they weren’t sure if the pilots could still pull it off, they wanted to help them out anyway.

[@tedioussugar384]

The reason for destroying the runway is even simpler than that: It doesn’t matter how many enemy aircraft are in the air, you don’t want them getting reinforcements. Considering the SAM’s are unavoidable, would you rather have to dodge them followed by fighting off 2 enemy aircraft, or dodging the SAM’s and being followed by 8 planes instead?

[@savvyartifact8947]

6:57 best joke in any sins video ever

[@adrianhjordan1981]

With regards to ejecting at Mach 10.4, there have been numerous aircraft, such as the F-111 where the ejection system actually ejected the entire cockpit unit as a way of protecting the pilot from extreme forces. No reason to think that couldn't have been the case here.

[@heyguys4571]

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[@JackAsh2081]

Well there is some reason, can that system handle Mach 10+ forces from however high altitude he was? You reference the F-111 aardvark which top speed is about 1/5th(roughly) the speed he’s going. That system also probably isn’t designed to work at that high of altitude. I wouldn’t know just making assumptions.

[@quillmaurer6563]

This is probably the most speculated question of the movie, more even than why they didn't send more aircraft for the final mission, or use F-35s, or drones, or anything else. (The "enemy country" not being a point of speculation at all, there's a clear consensus it's Iran.) My speculation is that he was at such high altitude that the aerodynamic forces, even at that speed, were survivable, even without an escape capsule. Pilots ejected from the SR-71 at Mach 3 unscathed thanks to this fact. An escape capsule would be plausible, though based on how he's scorched and dehydrated it is implied he was thrown into the air at supersonic speeds. I also wonder if he ejected at all, or if the airplane simply broke apart around him? Another possibility combining those ideas is that the airplane broke apart around him, the cockpit section broke off and acted somewhat as an escape capsule, from which he ejected at somewhat lower speed and altitude. We really don't know, we just see "oh shit," the airplane disintegrating from the ground perspective, then him walking into a bar and asking for water.

[@MysticEagle52]

@@JackAsh2081 if they're making a manned mach10-capable plane it's not that unreasonable to expect the ejection system to work under those conditions. That's what I think at least

[@JackAsh2081]

@@MysticEagle52 okay, but based on that logic. Why didn’t the challenger space shuttle get made with an ejection system. Sometimes there just isn’t something you can do. Hence why people that do this are either paid really well or go down in history as pioneers.

[@katemaloney4296]

I had to drag my daughter kicking and screaming to watch it. Afterward, she announced "That was GOOD!" I concur.

[@francisaselin856]

The best line of critique is “ a goose’s chance in a flat spin” wow you out did yourself that time. Bravo

[@conserva-chan2735]

Fun fact: this movie had over 900+ hours of filming during its development hell over 30+ years, which was more than the entire Lord of The Rings trilogy and is therefore one of the most filmed films ever.

[@DaNinja60]

I had to pause that maneuver at 21:20 minutes because it was one cold move even beyond the old "speed brake" maneuver. That was too beautiful. I can only appreciate it from playing the old air combat sims on my computer way back when. Wow!

[@w2ttsy670]

Called Kvuchar’s Bell maneuver and is definitely one of the most memorable aerial maneuvers scenes in the movie. Also loved the cobra + flares scene during g the dogfight and the split thrusters in the f14

[@DaNinja60]

​@@w2ttsy670That was my first time ever seeing that maneuver and it was beyond cold. I know the huge loss of air speed means you have to dive to get it back and you think Maverick would have been long gone by then. But what can we say... Movie. 😂 Thanks for that.

[@w2ttsy670]

@@DaNinja60 I love that in order to keep a PG13 rating, they could only use the f bomb once, and so they used it after seeing that maneuver. Just reinforcing how awesome it really was

[@DaNinja60]

@@w2ttsy670 I can only imagine that the pilot pulls up suddenly, thrusts vectors the exhaust and flat spins the plane to point the nose down to gain his speed back. Altitude better be good or the ground could come up quickly.

[@Pikolow1]

I appreciate the fact that you blerp out major cuss words; it actually makes these funnier.

[@StarTrekMarco]

Dammit there are so many Star Trek references meticulously webbed into this, but the last one with "don't wait for the translation, answer me now" is what got me.

[@customxphoto]

Seeing that over the mountain roll in theaters was just NUTS!!!!

[@camward9293]

21:24 C.W. Lemoine, a former F-16 and F-18 fighter pilot, made that same point about this scene. He said that "If the enemy's giving you that much face full of jet, shoot it! Don't just watch as he goes by."

[@stanmann356]

You missed another sin when Hondo again mysteriously appeared on the flight deck of the aircraft carrier. Add the fact that he was wearing green which means he had one of these jobs: Catapult and arresting gear crew, air wing maintenance personnel, cargo handling personnel, ground support equipment troubleshooter, hook runner, photographer's mates, or helicopter landing signal personnel. Just how many hats did he wear in the Navy?

[@dancrane3807]

4 jobs. The three mentioned, plus he was assistant lead grip.

[@noahfriend320]

...your MCs wear green? Every ship I've ever been on, they've been in coveralls with white floatcoat/cranial

[@stanmann356]

@@noahfriend320 No idea, I just looked it up online. I just knew the color someone wears on the flight deck specifies what type of job they perform, so I looked up who all wore green.

[@noahfriend320]

@@stanmann356 Ah, well, more often than not it varies a little bit by ship, or sometimes they'll mix colors. Source -- I'm only occasionally on ship but when I am, I'm solid green

[@EllisanLeonhardt]

While I don't exactly know much about the military tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if Hondo was supposed to be Mav's crew chief during darkstar who Mav was able to get reassigned to the same unit(s) due to their working history and possibly some notable connections in the rank ladder. It would at least explain how Hondo could be a part of both the darkstar test team as what looks to be a USN CWO4 and as part of the air wing responsible for the later mission, and, as a member of the maintenance personnel to my understanding, would explain the green shirt on deck. so basically just 1 hat that gives enough of a reason to be able to follow Mav through reassignment and would fall under the green shirts on a carrier (assuming my limited knowledge is accurate within reason for hollywood plausibility)

[@zarquondam]

0:48 - Sinning the Sin Guy for mispronouncing "aileron." 2:37 - Sinning the Sin Guy for missing the opportunity to make a joke about how the guy who wants to replace in-person flights with remote drones thinks shutting down the program is too important to be done remotely rather than in person. 6:43 - Sinning the Sin Guy for mispronouncing "mauve." Also sinning the Sin Guy for thinking that Maverick's blood would be mauve. 7:50 - Sinning the Sin Guy for thinking that San Diego's Kansas City Barbecue, a place that makes it connection to Top Gun THE main selling point in all its marketing, would not have been available for this movie if they'd been asked.

[@rickwilson7282]

@Agoric Cafe 5:10 - Sinning the Sin Guy for thinking that engineers brilliant enough to design an EXPERIMENTAL plane that can achieve Mach 10.4 are simultaneously too stupid to figure out how to get a pilot out of that same aircraft at hypersonic speeds (plus a bunch of other physics, math, and engineering stuff that Neil Tyson bothered to consider)

[@jenx5870]

He literally asks why he doesn't just use Zoom at 2:37, and he pronounces mauve correctly, he just has an accent.

[@dewee81kim86]

1:09 as a resident Minnesotan I have to clarify that MN does in fact NOT gave a Mojave Desert

[@LivingUnderRock]

Yes closest thing is the southwest prairie but it still gets rain

[@paulodecarvalho8965]

The plane probably had “glass skin” or cameras that feed into the augmented reality display on his helmet so he could in fact look behind him

[@Cmdr1962]

As much as I love the Trek references at the end, how could you NOT show Luke running down the Death Star's "canyon" and shooting a VENT the size of a womp rat?

[@towmanjbo]

Especially when the laser guidance failed and Rooster needed to use the Force to shoot it

[@Murph_gaming]

See the Honest Trailer for this film.

[@sillygoober27]

"your dad would have gotten court maratialed for disobeying my orders" "which is exactly what is gonna happen to u"

[@davidmason2447]

Freaking love this movie. Talk to me, Goose....

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[@danielseelye6005]

Honk, Honk!

[@shadowwhogames6063]

You are not immune to propaganda

[@Needleandfur]

50 sins removed for the scene between Holdo and Mav just before the start of the actual mission, no bravado, no "com'on Mav 'course ya gonna make it back, you Mav Mav! You're the best there is Mav". No it was subtle and heartfelt, both men thinking this COULD be the end this MIGHT be the last time so make it count. Such. A. Great. Movie!

[@tungsten6474]

At the end, it does actually contain a Merlin. The P-51D used the Rolls-Royce Merlin engine, therefore you could say it there is a Merlin

[@CDRhammond]

As far as the F-14 landing goes that can be very real nothing to do with hot shots. That barrier comes up in situations where there is little to no chance of a pilot trapping on deck such as an engine burning out or landing gear failure (which happened to me once in the 18) defiantly not a fun experience put it sure beats a ramp strike or having to punch out and get your 6 saved by a helicopter crew

[@morganottlii2390]

Thank You! Wouldn't want to even watch that kinda thing

[@CDRhammond]

@@morganottlii2390 I'm sure it's almost as fun to watch as being in the cockpit during. Luckly, it doesn't happen often .

[@GeminiKnight76]

@@CDRhammond If I remember correctly, isn't a pilot/aircrew permanently grounded after two ejections? So Maverick should have been grounded after crashing the aircraft he was test piloting if he didn't have any other ejections except the one where Goose died in the first movie.

[@VanquishedAgain]

@@GeminiKnight76 no

[@ApollonDriver]

@@GeminiKnight76 why would there be a such thing dude, unless there is evidence that the person shouldn't fly a plane anymore? It's not easy to train pilots, you can't just get rid of them.

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

There are SO many more sins when looked at through the prism of military goggles. Like the fact that they sent him to North Island Naval Air Station, San Diego, which is somewhere around 550 miles south of the United States Navy Strike Fighter Tactics Instructor program, located at Fallon, NV and commonly called Top Gun. That's just a very small tip of an incredibly large iceberg.

[@branlopgar]

The movie was fully backed up by the Navy, so I'm pretty sure they allowed some of those errors for the sake of an entertaining film. They knew any actual aviator would recognize all the liberties taken but the average Joe wouldn't. The base of the Commander of the Pacific Fleet is not in San Diego near where TOPGUN used to be since it is in Hawaii. You can argue "they allowed Ice to be close to his family because of his illness and being a four star admiral", but that's just one thing. The biggest one would be, any O-6 who is *not* up for a promotion needs to retire after 30 years of service, and not even the President himself can save you from that, so Maverick should have retired at the latest in 2006 along with the Tomcat and there is no movie since Mav is not even a test pilot but is instead shoveling shit in Louisiana

[@leynni]

I think they just really wanted the movie to take place in San Diego for nostalgia, since they can't take base in Miramar.

[@pogo1140]

@@branlopgar The Navy actually answered this. It's unlikely but it's possible. One of the longest serving navy pilots was Capt Dale Snodgrass who retired after 26 years. His last posting was Commander US Fighters Atlantic. He was responsible for getting targeting pods for the F-14's.

[@branlopgar]

@@pogo1140 26 years. Not 40 like Maverick most likely had. He's an O-3 by 1986 in Top Gun, so he has been at least for 3 years in the Navy (and it is implied he has been demoted before for being, well, Maverick) Add 27 years and Mav should have retired in 2013 at most, not 2006 like I said in my first comment, but it stands. 2022, that's almost 40 years in service without going to a desk job (2018, the time the film was shot, would have still been 35 years of service) which was not the case with Dale Snodgrass. Like I said, I know they took artistic licenses for the sake of a better movie, and an average Joe who doesn't look this info up won't find out

[@pogo1140]

@@branlopgar Going by the patches on his locker, he was in at least 32 squadrons, starting with an F-4 Squadron, then an F-14 squadrons, a stint at the NFWS, then back out to the F-14's, a stint at an E-2 squadron, F/A-18's, VX-9 and another Test and Evaluation Squadrons. I'd say Iceman and before him Viper were probably pulling strings to keep him in the air by moving him around every time he got into trouble.

[@flyboy952]

On a technical standpoint(from the point of view of someone who served in the Armed Forces) this movie makes no sense and because of that, took whatever pleasure I could have had watching it. The amount of times I told myself "this makes no sense" or "there's no way this would ever happen, so much for a semblance of realism" killed it for me sorry. Glad to see people are very easily entertained nowadays watching a modernised version of the exact same movie that came out in 1987... Happy I'm not the only one who saw that, great clip & keep up the good work CinemaSins!

[@johnathanhughes4367]

It's worth mentioning that Mover and Gonky (both former combat pilots) saw all the errors and implausibilities in the film and still enjoyed the film immensely. One of them noted that "I'll forgive a lot for good footage of F-18s taken from the cockpit."

[@brandondaniels9471]

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[@shanen1399]

Was waiting for this for the longest time!!!!!

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[@sapphirevilya]

Me too! So happy to have finally discovered it dropped, 4 minutes after it did.

[@wendellsappio9496]

Please, tell whoever created the subtitles that planes stay in HANGARS, hanger is in your closet.

[@gideonbrown4215]

It’s good to see one of the best movies in the past ten years get the CinemaSins treatment. This is how you do remakes right!

[@billtdifferent9714]

It's not a remake, it's a sequel?

[@josephandrews7638]

And Top Gun: Maverick isn’t a movie, a sequel, or a remake, it’s a peace of garbage that belongs in the trash

[@johnducats9114]

“Nit pickers, amiright?” got me

[@Joe-xo4yg]

‘A goose’s chance in a flat spin’ 😂😂 I’m using that

[@kkhackett]

I’m legit surprised no one mentioned that doing an eject is hella brutal on your body. And then Phoenix and bob flying a few days later would have been impossible! Same with maverick and rooster

[@blackheart5379]

Been back in the air 48 hours after ejecting . The worst part is the rockets on the ejection seat blasting you two hundred feet in .50 seconds. After that it is just a normal parachute jump.

[@TheCombatEditor62]

besides that, an ejection at Mach 1 is not survivable (only 1 pilot ever survived one, and even then with both legs and one arm dislocated; his Weapons Systems Officer was killed instantly) so Maverick ejecting at Mach 10.4 wouldn't leave anything recognizable of his body.

[@swiffersweatjet7815]

@@TheCombatEditor62the plane likely had a system similar to the F-111, which ejected the entire cockpit as a kind of escape pod.

[@MrCanadianhero]

@@swiffersweatjet7815 exactly. stuff like that built for the kind of speed would have full on escape pods, not ejection seats as 5 seconds after it takes flight it wouldn't be safe to use when needed.

[@michaelpeltier2772]

The sin that bugs me most is the nonsense about pulling Rooster’s papers and setting him back 4 years. He could have joined NROTC or applied later for OCS. It might have been a harder path with possibly lower odds, and less cachet than the Academy, but it would have set him back months, not years.

[@JFDA5458]

I think the lack of cachet was the point. Especially if his dad had graduated from Anapolis.

[@ateam404]

Is it possible that Ice had something to do with it too? He was watching over Rooster as well.

[@JFDA5458]

@@ateam404 Interesting idea, I'd never thought of that but it makes sense given that it's hard to believe Maverick with his rank and reputation would have the administrative clout to prevent him from joining the navy.

[@flappysquirrel5132]

He'd still need a bachelor's degree to be an officer in the Navy, and you're right. Months, not years because (a) OCS is a twelve week program, and (b) boot camp is 10 weeks.

[@lone.wolf_5791]

The biggest sin is thinking this is not just a film 😂

[@MicTimeWithMike]

OMG after watching this I understand 200% why you have almost 10 million subs! 😀 This is awesome! Needed a laugh and this was just what I needed.

[@Kasstastr0phy]

I always felt having Maverick Sacrifice himself for Rooster was the best way to go… as it opened the door for Rooster to step into Mav’s shoes and become the next generation maverick.

[@Bleh693]

This is what should have happened.

[@dharmani_youtube]

1:40 "underwear schedule" is such a violation 😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀

[@oaw972]

It wasn't Top Gun, it had nothing to do with Top Gun except for the pilots being all together for this mission. They should have just called it Maverick.

[@jonandkristen]

Kind of a missed sin (you do mention the helmet for safety reasons at 6:40), but military personnel absolutely have to wear PPE, including helmets and gloves; especially on base/post. In reality he would be pulled over by the MP’s faster than Mav could say I am dangerous. Scratch that, the gate would probably stop him just coming in post. Also, one other country has (and still flies) the F14 Tomcat, Iran. We sold them to Iran before the 1970s Revolution and Iranian pilots used them well against Saddam in the Iraq Iran war.

[@Max1996YT]

My first time watching a movie in 4DX was this one. Truly an unforgettable experience.

[@nathanielfowler6724]

Cinema Sin: This movie has a higher budget than the US Navy itself

[@Locadel2003]

Tom cruise made his first bilion dollar movie at 60 years old and looks just 40

[@sapphirevilya]

I'm convinced that he played himself in this movie, and not Maverick. Or Maverick is an alternative version of himself. Take your pick..

[@hyethga]

There’s a lot of de-aging going on in the scenes that he is in. Without it, he’ll definitely look those 60 years.

[@da-be-ju]

No, Conrad, there isn't.

[@proofofpower]

19:48 - I laughed uncontrollably at the “bag of a**” sin. UNCONTROLLABLY!