Fighter Pilots Breakdown TOP GUN MAVERICK OPENING & DARKSTAR Scenes | Mover Ruins Movies Pt 1/8

[@suddendeath231]

Personal theory: Mav died in the darkstar crash, rest of the movie is the hallucination he's having for the 10 miliseconds before he's turned into human tomato paste.

[@baghdaddymike6669]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@blobman1238]

Lmaooo 😂

[@blademanx]

nah cuz hes already talking about a sequel as a trainer 😂. If he died he would have to stick to assistant director for the next one

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

Wonder if the body would disintegrate once it was ejected at that speed. I'm pretty sure it would have broken apart immediately. This is what I think at least. Quick way to get med boarded is to eject out of an aircraft anyway the stress alone compresses your spine and you lose an inch of height. Twice and its an automatic grounding for the rest of your career.

[@dababycar2899]

@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 he is wearing an extremely strong pressure suit though, a blackbird pilot ejected at over Mach 3 and survived but it’s probably still not realistic

[@JJK657]

I feel like the opening scene on the carrier could have led to a scene where the Hornets are supporting troops in contact in some unmentioned desert country. Then they could've explained that after 20 years of GWOT, focusing on air to ground combat, fighter pilots had lost valuable dog fighting skills, hence the need to expand TOPGUN and explaining Mavericks return

[@CWLemoine]

Yup... Maybe shown Rooster nearly running himself out of gas... something for that character arc.

[@calneigbauer7542]

Yes this is a great idea wish they would of done this

[@averagebeastt3606]

Yeah i feel like that could've replaced the whole test pilot scene in the beginning. I felt like i was watching an entire different movie with that part. Don't get me wrong it was good to watch but it was nothing to do with Top Gun and had no correlation to the rest of the movie afterwards lol.

[@rynoopperman5010]

The problem with that idea is Tom cruise wanted to remake Top Gun with as much nostalgia bait not make a different / follow up movie 😏

[@sparrowlt]

Maybe Rooster encountering some SU-57 near the Rogue Nation during patrol but failing to do much out of them becuase he is too over cautious.. but maybe that would be too much copy of the original structure?

[@ChrisMSN-06-2]

You gotta admit, the scene where he says, "Talk to me, Goose." then it cuts to the sunrise accompanied with the orchestra is just beautiful.

[@smellyfinger684]

Totally. I got the goosebumps.

[@KLD2305]

That's one of my favorite scenes in the whole movie. Makes me think of my Dad. We were supposed to see this movie together, but he passed away before it came out. I know he would have loved it, despite the inaccuracies.

[@ToriHiragana]

It’s cheap. If its was a new character you wouldn’t feel this way because of how flat Miles Teller acting and character writing was. Thankfully they have a beloved character to rip of down to his 80’s mustache. The spitting image of his dad town to his taste in music! Wow!!

[@bk-terminator3617]

Ahhhh it’s not cheap!!! It’s a Movie and it’s all heart.

[@mattburke5491]

It loses its appeal when he says it every 10 minutes lol. I gotta go to the bathroom. Talk to me goose

[@2020Max1]

The way that scene with Ed Harris should have ended should have been - Maverick: "North Island? But Top Gun is in the other direction..." Admiral: "I know, You're going be flying C-2s carrying rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong."😆

[@cl0206]

lmao

[@ChrisMSN-06-2]

I can't believe people actually thought that there was no CGI at all. Even the producers said they used CGI. They just placed the actors in backseats of planes to capture genuine reactions. Thats what the producers meant when they said "it's real".

[@TheBatman_101]

exactly, finally someone understands

[@tlgibson97]

I don't know the extent of the CGI or how they did it, but I interpreted it as them using real airplanes for the footage. Even if they took that footage and spliced it around in different places. Like the footage looking up through the canopy going under another hornet. I figured the other hornet was actually filmed but then spliced into that scene instead of using digitally recreated airplanes. I'm probably wrong because I haven't seen the behind the scenes of the CGI stuff.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

I think Paramount tried to hide how much they used, hence why the interview with the effects guy was pulled down… he gave away ALL the CGI secrets.

[@thedishonoredamerican129]

@@tlgibson97 Maverick's Super Hornet doing a cobra over Rooster's Super Hornet is full CGI.

[@____Wolf]

​@@tlgibson97 Exactly, cgi work comes in many forms and I don't think most people understand that. 3D-rendered planes is CGI, but so are two real planes spliced together in the same sequence (both are edited with a computer, hence computer-generated). It's not always an all-or-nothing process.

[@BasicBodThor]

This film is a great example of how to blend practical footage with CG imo

[@edwinpadilla856]

The reason for the Hornet stick is because it was an F18 that was used in this scene, the sonic boom that lifts the roof of the guard shack was real, in fact it was not planned, but accidental, DarkStar was CGI in the sequence, and the Mock up DarkStar aircraft build along side Skunk Works was used for close ups, taxing, ETC.. The most important thing that I enjoyed about this movie is getting together with many military veterans, active personnel, and their families. It was a joy hearing all of us making comments of our own experience with F18s, F14s, being on the carriers, seeing my squadron insignia VFA-151 and the tiger stripes on the F18s as they were taking off bringing back so many good memories, along with many familiar scenes of San Diego that I miss so much. Overall it was a great movie and I can't wait for the Blue Ray and I am buying a sick surround sound system too.

[@BigMarkSr]

I read that Ed Harris wanted to stand there and take that sand to the face to make the scene better. I'm sure he was glad it was only once though.

[@BlyGuy]

You're saying they had a Hornet do a low level supersonic fly by for that scene?

[@BlyGuy]

@@skins4thewin haha exactly. Roofs are attached to the buildings frame, not just placed on top with not nails keeping it in place.

[@darkphq]

@@skins4thewin Its not a real building

[@DatBlueVQ]

@@skins4thewin It did actually happen though

[@MegaRayland]

Actually the entire placement of the Darkstar sequence works fine for me, even as someone who knows Top Gun well. For anyone without prior knowledge of the franchise it introduces Maverick quickly and clearly, and for anyone else coming from the first movie the sudden slowdown pretty much reflects the place of the character at this time.

[@ninjabearpress2574]

Yeah, but Batman's gonna be mad Maverick trashed his airplane.

[@blackosprey2219]

Agreed. It very concisely establishes Mav's character (goes very fast, ignores chain of command, still has a hangup over Goose) and clearly lays out a major theme: refusing to just accept assumed limits of age and obsolescence, both in regards to the tech and the pilot.

[@shok24199]

The "slowdown" at Mach 10. 😆

[@Ider4_Ever]

The whole point of that sharp transition from the carrier was to show Maverick’s isolation from the fleet…hence the scene when Warlock tells him this is where he belongs when back on the boat at the end.

[@Brees1986]

I didn’t have a problem with the Darkstar sequence (well, except for the whole surviving a Mach 10 wipeout). I think it helps set up the situation that he has finally mothballed his career. The biggest plot issue I have is one you have mentioned several times. Rooster. The movie never really shows us why he is “same old Rooster”. I think an intro after the opening sequence showing us Rooster’s problems is needed.

[@PlugInRides]

Providing any supporting character development or exposition, would have meant less screen time for Tom Cruise, so.... This was not 'Top Gun II", it was called "Top Gun: MAVERICK", because it was all about how Tom Cruise, I mean Maverick, was even more awesome and legendary than he was in 1986, and isn't really getting old AT ALL.

[@bigkilla2608]

Also if he flew at mach 10 he would have landed somewhere other than in America

[@strawsparky33]

@@bigkilla2608 not really. it would take about 25 minutes to travel the whole country at a constant speed of mach ten. he hit mach ten for about 30 seconds. and was only flying for like 5 minutes.

[@wwoods66]

"I think an intro after the opening sequence showing us Rooster’s problems is needed." I thought we got enough of that during the training, showing him overthinking, too cautious.

[@acekiller10]

@@bigkilla2608 also he did a big lofty u-turn as well in flight

[@manuelgreil4306]

I assume the whole Darkstar plotline was a big, fat homage to the early Muroc/Edwards-Yeager days in general, and "The Right Stuff" in particular. That would explain the lax security (apparently, the early post-war test flights were conducted in a rather relaxed atmosphere, that is until General Albert Boyd moved the flight test center from Wright-Patterson out to the Mojave Desert), and the scene with Maverick appearing at the bar somewhat mirrors Yeager's crash in the NF-104A (amped up to 11). My head-canon explanation for him surviving the Darkstar completely disintegrating at hypersonic speeds is that I assume the Darkstar had a similar escape system as the F-111 (capsule).

[@pogo1140]

They did have a Mach 5 capable ejection seat design back in the 60's.

[@Silversmok3]

There ain’t no crew capsule, ejection seat, or supernatural deity that can save Maverick from a quick & crispy demise. An airframe breakup at Mach 2 = Arlington funeral, much less five times that velocity.

[@pogo1140]

@@Silversmok3 The pilot of an SR-71 survived a Mach 3 bailout. His seat did not leave the plane, all he had was his spacesuit and his parachute.

[@Silversmok3]

@@pogo1140 his backseater didn’t survive, and the pilot came >< close to buying it himself. Maverick’d be deader than fried chicken if his jet came apart at 4,500 knots

[@pogo1140]

@@Silversmok3 That was an unprotected ejection seat at Mach 3, NASA had a Mach 5 design that incorporated a windshield, literally a shield to protect the crew person. A Mach 10 design would likely incorporate a capsule with a passive (no power of fuel needed) braking system to control the capsule's attitude and slow it down enough for chutes to open. It's not that hard, you're looking at a FBW aircraft, all the connectors between the cockpit and the plane are just large plugs that carry data and power like those you find on computer motherboards.

[@JimHoward]

I'm an old fart, and was once stationed at Kadena AB when the SR's were still there. That after takeoff scene where you see the two burners climbing up into outer space. That's exactly what the SR-71 looked like after takeoff. I'll also note that F-117 flew almost exclusively at night for a long time until it was about to come out of the closet. This Dark Star was not the first. The LM RQ-3 Darkstar UAV was the first. At time my brother worked for an LM competitor on UAVs. After the first prototype crashed on its second flight he started calling it 'Dark Hole'. One last thing. I'm begging you guys to ruin 'Red Flag, the Ultimate Game'. This movie was made with full USAF support, before Top Gun. Mover, you are in this movie. As the Bad Guy! Because you picked on WSOs. It's on KZbin. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpPZi5uoqZeBeNE

[@toddie4usa1]

The original Darkstar crashed because of a power outage in the control center, it had nothing to do with the actual vehicle design.

[@hatman4818]

Just got home from 5 years on the flightline in Kadena a year or two ago. Would've been awesome to see a sight like that. We briefly did get a U-2 or two temporarily stationed at Kadena because their runway in Korea was being worked on. Sometimes we'd debate who had the loudest engines on base, the Awacs TF-33s, the F-35 engines, or the U-2s, but I think the U-2 had everyone beat. That thing was LOUD. Got to watch it take off a couple times.

[@thomasstuder1624]

That looks like he does about 30 degrees of turn a second (1/12th of a circle) at mach 9 (ballpark 2700m/s). The circle circumference is thus about 32,400m, which gives a radius of just over 5000m (2×pi×r=c). The acceleration on the airframe (a=v^2/r) is thus ballpark 1400m/s^2 or close to 144g... Physics ruins movies.

[@hatman4818]

It really does, lol. They briefly show a map of the turn, with states underneath, so I'm thinking about rerunning your calculations using a radius estimate from the size of the states underneath for a ballpark estimate, to see if I get a similar or different answer from yours (btw, I'm a physics major, and hilariously, just relearned how to do centripetal force calculation, lol, so this is kind of on-topic for me homework wise).

[@HalNordmann]

Scott Manley did some calcs on this according to the map shown, and it comes up at around 7g, which is not fun either but still doable.

[@shok24199]

@@HalNordmann From the same map, I got around 20g. Survivable, but you'd be unconscious and your wings might rip off.

[@zeensy7275]

nerd

[@yaki_ebiko]

I'm all ok with the darkstar sequence right until Maverick decided to TURN during a hypersonic flight.... I remember everyone else is like "cool, beautiful skies" and my inner soul just screams "WHERE PHYSICS!!!!"

[@MeppyMan]

The Gs would be ridiculous lol.

[@petrairene]

@@MeppyMan Plus, it slows the thing down. And, what kind of control surfaces would survive maneuvering at that speed?

[@hatman4818]

Lol, Homosapiens in the theater: *Instant Applause, Flashy Graphiks* You, Homoerectus: "WHERE PHYSICS" Boy have our standards for movies dropped... Or I dunno, maybe it hasnt, there are some really dumb movies from the 80s and before... Maybe it's just that dumb movies have gotten really tiresome.

[@CarassiusAu]

@@hatman4818 Idk what you’re trying to convey here but _Homo erectus_ is the less intelligent hominid FYI

[@ToriHiragana]

@@hatman4818 movie are dumber for sure

[@morganpavia7634]

Gonky nailed it the whole darkstar part was a tip of the hat to The Right Stuff including having Ed Harris (John Glenn in that movie) as the admiral. I think it fits storyline wise just they could have transitioned better but I am sure a lot ended up being edited out for time

[@hla0roo]

We're not gonna discuss the fact that Maverick punches out traveling a couple miles a second and survives the heat of re-entry?

[@videogameplayer0552]

Top Gun is one of the greatest movies of the year, in my opinion!

[@GreenituIjo]

I agree

[@StopReadingMyNameOrElse]

@@GhostWatcher2024 Nah I'm sure he said what he meant. Especially since, ya know, Top Gun came out 36 years ago.

[@StopReadingMyNameOrElse]

@@GhostWatcher2024 Look out folks, we got a sensitive little boy here whose feelings get hurt if you challenge his corny opinions. I can't even imagine how useless you must be irl.

[@captainarcher5205]

Maverick being a reservist is my headcanon for this movie. It’d also explain how he could afford a P-51 (almost)

[@CWLemoine]

Flying rubber dogshit out of Hong Kong as a FedEx captain

[@Silversmok3]

My theory: Maverick got wrapped up in the Fat Leonard scandal. Thus the vintage sports car, privately owned P-51 , maxed out credit card and his eternal 0-6 rank. 😂

[@petrairene]

The only believeable reason I see for Maverick's deliberately flying the Darkstar beyond mach 10, destroying it is that he knew after this unauthorised flight they would likely kick him out, or ground him permanently. And since he was in his self worth so dependent on his "naval aviator" identity (as he himself admits), it was his attempt to "go out in style" with that plane instead of being kicked out and grounded from fast jet flying. And spending the rest of his days sitting alone in his hangar, pining after what he no longer has. He had to know for some time that his friend Ice was quite ill and would retire sooner rather than later, and without his protection, his flying days were over. Bit of a suicidal streak there with the Darkstar.

[@Glee73]

awesome breakdowns.. really enjoying the content and happy to see you both on a video always. if people actually watched all your content regarding this movie, they would know that both you and gonky enjoyed this movie and that "mover ruins movies" is something that's just done for fun and entertainment.

[@juliakarczewski8875]

They stopped the Admiral and not maverick because they were in on it. They had orders to delay anyone who would prevent the test:-)

[@pogo1140]

Also the gate guards have to show the Admiral that they were doing their jobs to the letter.

[@baghdaddymike6669]

Mover: makes a video called “Mover RUINS Movies” Commenter: clicks on a video titled “Mover RUINS Movies” Commenter: *triggered* “MOVER RUINED THE MOVIE!!!”

[@BHopper88]

The more I watch the movie the more I end up going with the “fan theory” that Maverick died in the Darkstar crash and the rest of the movie is Maverick going through all his regrets and reconciling with those moments in that small moment in his head. Kinda like a “death dream”.

[@JakkiPi]

Being in the presence of 45 stars in the room was actually pretty cool. I imagine most of them would be entertained at Maverick surviving mach 10.4

[@shayshivecharan4620]

I really enjoyed the part where Maverick pushed it - reminiscent of when Chuck Yeager pushed the X-1A AFTER breaking the record at 2.5 just to see where that “demon” was and losing the flight controls and ending in a flat spin before recovering the plane (and cracking the canopy with his head lol)

[@cleekmaker00]

Actually, Yeager encountered Inertial Coupling going Mach 2.44 @ 80,000 feet,not a flat spin as depicted in The Right Stuff. 🙂

[@schoolio64D]

I was 9 when I saw the original in the theater, and it’s part of what inspired me to become a pilot, so I loved being able to see this one in the theater too. You just have to take it for what it is - a movie. Love the content…keep it coming!

[@brandonw1930]

The quote "You're the only pilot who has shot down 3 enemy aircraft in the past 40 years" surprised me... Has dogfighting really been that rare over the past 40 years?

[@Silversmok3]

It’s always rare. Take Korea for instance. I used to think MiG Alley meant they got in daily dogfights. But Maj Gen Boots Blesse didn’t get his fifth kill in Korea until Sortie 105. Vietnam was even rarer- most US pilots in country never even saw a MiG , much less engaged one. The 58th TFW in Desert Storm shot down 16 Iraqi MiGs , but that was across 1600 squadron sorties.

[@michaelmichaelagnew8503]

There is a retired Air Force pilot in Arizona that has shot down 5 in an F-15 in the past 40 years. Don't think there has been another Ace since he became one.

[@darthfuzzy77]

I just love the banter back and forth between you two and the commentary. Thank you both for your service

[@JensonZhangZeshen]

I agree totally with the beginning, thought it would be better if using a dream of Maverick and Goose in F14 engaging dog fight to link the opening scene and Maverick's hangar scene.That , after opening scene, Maverick was airborne with Goose in a F14 , they entered a dog fight, but the bandit suddenly becomes a fifth generation fighter, when Maverick pull the eject handle, instead of ejecting, he suddenly woke up from his hangar.

[@BlyGuy]

I like how the roof of the guard shack isn't nailed down and almost flies off when Dark Star zooms by.

[@bpip000]

Absolutely the opening scene should have went from the carrier to a scene with Rooster flying. They missed that plot hole with him and could have made it clear with an opening scene of him being him in some kind of flying scene from the carrier. The Darkstar thing was cool but just in the wrong spot.

[@rcslyman8929]

They already had Ed Harris. No budget for another custy, bald, cigar-chomping CAG to chew out Rooster before telling him he's going back to TopGun.

[@morganpavia7634]

There was a lot of character development missing from all the characters. They also hinted at something between Rooster and Phoenix they never elaborated on as well. But this was Top Gun Maverick Im sure they will have plenty of time to develop Rooster in the Rumored Top Gun Rooster

[@artnull13]

@@morganpavia7634 no directors cut then?

[@morganpavia7634]

@@artnull13 sadly I have found most directors cuts tend to bog down the movie especially when the director already had final edit. That said I would welcome a well done directors cut assuming all the aforementioned scenes were actually filmed. Another factor is it seems these days Hollywood is more interested in turning out franchises than complete films. My film professor in college said Hitchcock once said something along the lines of if a gun is on the table (plot point) it should go off by the end of the scene (resolution). Not sure how true this quote is as it may be apocryphal and also college was 20 years ago.

[@moonasha]

I like Sandboxx's theory that the whole Darkstar thing is a wink from Lockheed Martin about a real plane in development. There used to be a page on their website about a manned hypersonic vehicle, which mysteriously disappeared once the military seemed to grow serious about hypersonic flight.

[@rsrt6910]

I was so happy to see a movie where someone actually dons a spacesuit properly by showing Mav prebreathing oxygen to prevent getting decompression sickness and even moreso that they show him exercising while prebreathing to speed up the process... then they had to go a blow it by putting helmet lights INSIDE the helmet! I mean, come on, they were almost there!

[@wwoods66]

We need to see the actor more than he needs to see the control panel. tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InSpaceEveryoneCanSeeYourFace

[@Chibishii]

The lights were there so the camera can pick up his facial expressions. Need some Hollywood in there sometimes

[@rsrt6910]

@@Chibishii And yet, they managed to do without the inside helmet lights in The Martian, and Apollo 13, and The Right Stuff (which used the same type of front opening helmets that Maverick used) and other movies with much more modest budgets dating back to the 50's which is what made Topgun's choice to put in the lights just seem to... lazy.

[@palmerlp]

I’m glad you brought up the very good question of why Maverick was not just a well-compensated test pilot for Lockheed or Space-X or something.

[@GummiAnd]

I know this is a pretty late reply, but the answer is quite obvious. Do you really want a pilot who is known to be reckless to fly your super expensive prototypes? It doesn't matter how skilled he is.. if he can't follow the rules that are made for the safety of the pilots and the planes, then he is way more likely to cause an accident.

[@thomaseggle8886]

My dad is a retired Army Colonel...every military movie is always dissected to shreds...even to this day. It's entertaining as hell and I love every second of this from mover and gonky!

[@JTLaser1]

I learned something very important today: do NOT listen to Mover & Gonky while walking my dog around my neighborhood. Because I use my VA hearing aids to listen to my phone, everyone who saw my laughing my ASS off probably thinks of me as “that crazy old man who laughs at nothing!” Thanks Mover! 😉

[@cartermaloof4980]

I'm not going to lie, after watching you two break down the first movie and you Mover break down other movies, I have been really looking forward to you and Gonky break down this film. Very entertaining and great learning as well.

[@AugmentedGravity]

Yep the most unrealistic part of this is that the Darkstar is a Navy program😂😂

[@Myuutsuu85]

Just for the fact Mover doesn't give a shit about the complainers, he gets all my respect. He does what he likes, and this makes his content enjoyable.

[@JimHoward]

On the path to becoming a mission ready fighter pilot you develop a pretty thick skin or wind up in Mental Health.

[@Canberra67]

Some people take themselves far too seriously, and like to get offended about anything/everything. I absolutely love the banter between Mover and Gonky - and the addition of their experiences in the services. Keep up the ribbing and keep ripping into the movies. :-)

[@K3V1N117]

I personally love the dark star scene. Plus it gave us a badass fast plane to use in Ace Combat 7 to easily s-rank mission 9 lol

[@kevinreed9505]

Unknown as to why I’ve yet to watch this video from you two?! Mover, Gonky, you two educate and make me laugh at the same time. Thank you both for your service to our country, plus thanks for your continued time making these videos for us all!

[@carbomania8786]

I quite like what Mover said about moving the Darkstar scene else where in his previous videos… Personally, I think moving it to the end of the movie, and cut it at the explosion, would be a perfect way to end the movie.

[@donalddemo]

11:11 "Looks like he's gone to plaid" LMAO!!! Ludicrous Speed lol

[@speedcreep2605]

So, on a lot of the Darkstar stuff, my impression was that it was not a government owned plane. Darkstar has Lockheed's Skunkworks insignia (a skunk) on the tail. My read was, that the government has not yet purchased the plane, pending fulfillment of the test requirements (mach 10). I'm probably wrong about much of this, but I'd welcome thoughts/feedback.

[@04m6gto]

Yep, that's what it was. The Navy working with Lockheed Martin to test it. Fun fact: That plane was actually designed by engineers at Skunkworks for the movie.

[@dallasyap3064]

Well in a way yes. The Navy has not bought it yet bcoz its still in testing and development phase. Contractor company will work with the military's test and evaluation units and personnel to test the planes until they achieve their objectives/performances stated in the contract. The military will also be providing funding for the development (I'm not sure full or partial but they do fund the R&D, depends on the contract). If the plane meets the objectives the military would buy it and it will enter mass production.

[@JerBuster77]

I love this reaction for the movie over the other reacts because these guys are legit military pilots.

[@deadli-us]

I always appreciate a reference to Spaceballs

[@SolidMikeP]

When he said "talk to me Goose" it got me choked up out of no where.

[@warlock415]

What got me was seeing that where 99% of pilots would have an "I love me" wall, Maverick has an "I MISS GOOSE" wall.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Well that's a hitchhiker to a spinoff arthouse movie where he dies in the disintegrating Darkstar and for the next two hours has a nice conversation with Goose's ghost. Then they go and spook top gun pilots Star Wars-style.

[@RJSAMCRO]

This whole scene with Mav in the cockpit, the music playing with the night sky on the darkened earth reaching Mach 10 just felt so dam USA for me because lets face it our military and the fighter pilots are just that kick ass. I'll be honest the scene got me a bit emotional.

[@GreatWhiteNinja431]

Yep. Same here.

[@nexpro6118]

My mother even loved the 2nd Top Gun. Lol she also really loved the Dark Star scene. Mom was pumped lmao

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Yeah true but not as bad ass as in the late 60s. A million different aircraft with a million types of capabilities. Its sad that they had to make something up.

[@lilletrille8998]

Its fun for us who have never flown an airplane to find out what is totally wrong and just slightly wrong and I like listening to people with inside knowlage - so thank you Mover and Gonky for making these!

[@terryritter7065]

One other change in the opening text about Top Gun: Not only did they add "women", but they also changed "insure" from the original to "ensure". Most people use the former in English vernacular, but that's bizarrely incorrect (even though it seems to make sense with the definitions we accept).

[@its_clean]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there...to teach you BFM

[@ericssmith2014]

@@its_clean "You're in good hands with Top Gun," and the hands are cradling a little model fighter jet.

[@josephgriesenauer7895]

Did you notice how when Maverick does a low pass over the guard gate the shockwave is enough to lift the roof 3 feet off of the guard shack but the admiral is still standing like nothing happened. 😂

[@danielcassidy4857]

Space balls quotes never get old hahaha

[@skydiverclassc2031]

"I'm surrounded by Assholes!"

[@captainbryce1]

The fact that a Navy test pilot is evaluating the Dark Star really makes no sense. For one thing, his plaque in the hanger said 412th Test Wing (which is my former unit). That's an Air Force wing at Edwards Air Force Base, which is obviously where he's supposed to be (Mojave, California). There are Navy exchange students at the Air Force Test Pilot School at Edwards, but they are mostly O-3s and O-4s. Not O-6s. And none of them are serving in the capacity of "test pilot". Also, the "Dark Star" aircraft would not be exposed like that with no security. The fact that he just rolled his POV onto the flightline, and walked into the hangar with no ID check is ridiculous.

[@darrylbroatch862]

I just stumbled unto your videos... Appreciate your service gentlemen! From real life to entertainment is a wavy line for sure. Love the fact you are respectful to the creative elements. Keep it up!

[@jacobklinkert3702]

I will say, as someone who works in a naval shipyard, anytime I get to see a naval vessel in a movie and know that I've been on that exact ship and spent months of my life working to maintain and modernize the Navy's fleet, I feel very proud of what I do.

[@superdude4402]

First time i saw the Darkstar I immediately thought to small. Look at the SR71 and the cockpit size in relation to the overall size of the jet. The SR71 is literally a flying gas tank and can hold up near 100,000 pounds of fuel to go mach 3.3. To go mach 10, it would require a lot more fuel.

[@petrairene]

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Way too small to hold the amount of fuel needed for this. Plus, it's black. What kind of paint can withstand the temperatures a mach 10 flight would generate?

[@thomasvleminckx]

@@petrairene Hollywood paint.

[@petrairene]

@@thomasvleminckx Yeah. A real mach 10 plane should have a ceramic tile outer shell like the space shuttle. Only thing that can take the heat.

[@JonathanJK]

There is a film theory that everything after the Darkstar wipeout is a dream. Maverick actually DID die when he hit Mach 10.3. The reasoning behind this is everything after the wipeout goes perfectly, he completes the mission, no loss of life, makes amends with Rooster and gets the girl. Maverick is basically living the dream in heaven.

[@annlanoux1294]

You just made me laugh out loud!!! it has to be REAL!

[@arkyudetoo9555]

Human ejection at mach 10 is theoretically survivable but it everything has to go right, even if that's the case, you'd probably survive 1 out of 100 times.

[@yxeaviationphotog]

I don't think the Darkstar scene was all that bad. The scene in the diner is forced humour though and could have been cut. Have to admit though......it was very cool that LM Slunkworks helped design and build the Darkstar.

[@josephmassaro]

A friend of mine worked in the deck crew on a couple of carriers. He would always joke that dudes saw Top Gun and joined the Navy to become pilots, but ended up working under him.

[@adamwvase]

Didn't ruin my day, but you did make it better. Great video Mover

[@chrisspeiser8571]

" it could have been the domino's guy"..another piece of gonky gold!!! Love it!

[@TessellationRow]

Here’s to hoping one day a movie is made that’s more of a realistic fiction; a dramatic ‘slice of life’. Like the book Radar, Heat, Guns. Ever since reading that I’ve hope it’s be adapted into a movie. That being said, I really didn’t care for the first top gun film, but they really did a good job on this one

[@roastinNAVY]

I was an avionics rate on North Island for 7 years, I thought it was hilarious that they made North Island into a Hornet base. The move took place at my old hangar as well, a hangar that was for MH-60s.

[@moonasha]

9:07 as far as I know, all the F-117 flight tests were done at night, at least in the beginning, because they were afraid of soviet satellites. And when the thing was taking off, everyone on the base who wasn't cleared to see it had to stay indoors, it was that top secret. So launching this thing at night does make sense. But the filmmakers obviously did it so he can fly into the sunrise

[@WhiskeyZF]

I liked the whole Darkstar sequence as it showed Maverick had grown since the last movie. Maverick isn’t going for Mach 9 for himself, he’s doing it so the people in the Darkstar program would still have a job.

[@RossSnyder78]

Then he blew it up. It appeared to be a one off prototype too. No plane, no job. Sorry your family is hungry because I had to push it past Mach 10 for "reasons". Lol

[@DarthWindu06]

Although I absolutely love Top Gun Maverick and I think it's one of the best movies that has come out in the past years, I think the whole Darkstart sequence was a bit unnecessary and pulled me out of my immersion.

[@CWLemoine]

Yup!

[@triplemoyagames4195]

I think it served two purposes: A re-introduction for Maverick, for new audiences and tells them what they need to know about Maverick going forward. For older audiences it updates us on what he was doing up to this point and sets him up for going to Top Gun. With Darkstar on hold, he has no choice but to go to TopGun. The mach 10 also go insides with pushing the 10G's at the end

[@CWLemoine]

He never actually went to TOPGUN.

[@jcm028]

@@CWLemoine But.. could Penny order you 'overboard' at a Lamoore O-club with a mountain background though?.. lol

[@CWLemoine]

Should've been the Fallon O'Club. Maverick would've broken a hip being thrown into the rocks outside.

[@drjaye1962]

Actually as a fan of the movie, I really like your guys take on this…the real people…peace

[@Capelriso]

I always thought it was practical but they just cut and spliced footage for the dangerous scenes. It’s actually really good CGI at least

[@Dagenx]

I like the theory that the rest of the movie all takes place in his head as he dies in the first scene, and it makes sense that all these conditions work out for him make up with an old ex, reconcile with the son he never had.

[@mgabor6936]

I wonder if ejection above Mach 10 is even possible without being vaporized in the atmosphere 🤔

[@Stef3m]

Maybe in a capsule at high altitude

[@charliejones6138]

Nope, see what was left of the Columbia astronauts. BBQ’d

[@Stef3m]

@@charliejones6138 The Columbia was reentering the atmosphere not flying more or less leveled, it disintegrated after loosing control and the crew didn't have a protective capsule nor did wear a pressurized suit. I think that it is technically possible although really hard to integrate in a flying aircraft that have to account for other requirement but for a movie is "believable" enough

[@charliejones6138]

@@Stef3m Columbia crew were wearing pressure suits. They were mandated after Challenger. No manufacturer is builiding aircraft with any protective capsule, since there would be a huge weight penalty with regards to performance. Omly 1 person has survived an ejection over Mach 3. That itself was a miracle, since his RSO was killed.

[@Stef3m]

@@charliejones6138 The crew, all or most of them, wasn't fully wearing the suit and aircraft with ejection capsule have been produced. It's a movie it doesn't need to be 100% accurate but just "belivable" in fiction sense of it

[@rileyandmike]

love the ejection at MACH 10.4!! Haha, few pilots have survived MACH 1 ejections. Maverick would have been pink mist

[@RahulRahul-pj1fo]

First time i watched it, i knew already mover was going to make a video on this. PS you don't ruin movies, you just tell the truth. It would have been the same for all fighter pilot watching this movie

[@PeferG17]

"He'd be in front of all the stars" that line killed me

[@lordbyron8927]

The scenes with the maverick standing with the other guys is definitely CGI...there's no way that Tom Cruise is that tall.

[@ashvandal5697]

are we not gonna talk about how the roof came off of the guardhouse, but mr admiral just stood there like it was a pleasant breeze?

[@julianmaissel3660]

This is total BS. Everyone knows Tom Cruise actually flew a real life darkstar for this movie!

[@triplemoyagames4195]

I mean in fairness, Lockheed did make a 1:1 Scale model of the aircraft lol as well as the suit

[@sergiovalente3036]

"All of the stars!" 🤣It's like getting you supervisor, his Manager, the Senior Manager's Manager, his Director, the Senior Director, his General Manager, the VP, his VPP, the President and the Chairman of the Board at your desk. You know there is no probable recovery of screwing it up that bad.

[@GodzilarOG7337]

The Darkstar sequence is obviously a tip to The Right Stuff. Another theory is that Darkstar sequence takes place after the events of Maverick, and in a realistic world, Maverick dies at Mach 10 as his somewhat reckless behavior at times end up catching up to him. He even says "one last ride" prior to departure foreshadowing the events about to take place.

[@King_Georges_Calcified_Elbow]

Breaking news : 60yo man ejects at 8000mph and survives

[@worstxb1playertylerteehc635]

Thats No Hanger. That's a Giant Closet and Tom is right up the back of it. And also it's a part time Fudge Packing Factory.

[@asquare9316]

thanks for the chuckle

[@mike2590rrr]

I missed it on my first viewing, but I love the bumper sticker "i can't drive 55" on his motorcycle.

[@charissanomdeplume6475]

Thanks so much for doing this. It’s interesting, funny and thoroughly enjoyable…

[@dismemberedlamb9104]

I love when he says “maybe so sir…but not today” long live pilots!!! 🇺🇸💪🏼

[@vsGoliath96]

"I think this is the only appearance of Fat Amy." "Good." Ah, the never ending dunk on the F-35. Doesn't get old.

[@martynas5757]

youtube works in misterious way, glad i found these breakdowns, cant wait for breakdown of ending dogfight

[@timjake78]

I like the skunk on the tail. Obvious homage to Kelly Johnson and the Skunk Works. There was also an SR-71 with that tail marking.

[@hanscombe72]

“If he smoked an aircraft like that he wouldn’t just be standing in front of a two star. He would be in front of all the stars.” Nice one lads!

[@robertdionne2311]

I saw on "Entertainment Tonight" where Tom Cruise himself was stating that "I was allowed to place tiny HD cameras in specific cockpit places in those fighterplanes while the pilot flew the fighter around to simulate how it was done in the movie". Then the Melroseplace anchor asked "So you just placed your image in the cockpit for the movie" to which Tom Cruise just stated "Yes".

[@skyraider87]

11:39 here's a very subtle callback I noticed: the sound of the mach counter increasing is the same sound that was used for a radar contact in the F14 in the first Top Gun

[@Hannsfeld]

Kenny Loggins deserves more credit than he gets.

[@christopherhylton8462]

I think most people know that Mavrick is mostly Hollywood magic. You guys had me laughing with some of your colorful commentary. When the original Top Gun came out in the eighties I saw it with a F15 fighter pilot I went to church with who was stationed at Langley. Listening you two comment on this was very familiar sounding. Also, thank you for your service.

[@brianmcg321]

It's like the same entrance he had in Days of Thunder. Just rolling up on his motorcycle.

[@andresilvasophisma]

- "Talk to me Goose." - "Quack."

[@machinelover_entertainment]

As an Australian fighter pilot, I have been obsessed with the navy and aviation for a very long time. When I turned 20, I decided to go to the US Navy and after 7 years of gruelling training, I made it into the navy as an F-18 pilot. Since I’m an Aussie, I made my callsign Bloke. I’ve been having such an adventure with the navy and been enjoying it for a long time. I watched Top Gun: Maverick and loved the movie. This is a great video.

[@nobody-wk6ej]

Very nice! Have they trained you how to smoke those deadly Commie Roos?!

[@Monke636]

Hmmm yes the guy with the roblox profile pic is a fighter pilot in both the Australian airforce and US navy. Seems legit.

[@robertschulz1234]

I love how you break down what is real and not in movies. I don’t think you ruin the movie because I watch the movie before I watch your videos. I get a kick out of your commentary guys.

[@skyraider87]

Here's my theory about the Darkstar crash: the ejection works similarly to the F111, which jettisoned the entire cockpit section of the plane rather than just the seat. Probably deploys a parachute to reduce the airspeed of the cockpit, then ejects the pilot after the cockpit has reached a safe airspeed.

[@thebunkhouse6469]

How is it that after Mav ejects at Mach 10, he’s picked up by a helo, and, still in his flight suit, is escorted by armed guards into the admiral’s office, then is sent on his way “within the hour”, but Phoenix and Bob, after ejecting at 3-400kts, spend the night in the hospital?

[@skydiverclassc2031]

Not to mention that the guards are US Army on a Navy base.