Let's Play Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Carnival Night Zone (Part 2)

Let's Play Sonic 3 & Knuckles: Carnival Night Zone (Part 2)

[@ByGeorge846]

Ohh I had to spend 8 minutes there I couldn't figure out what to do. I wasted all my lives and continues trying to figure out what to do!

[@Cybershell13]

because at least I knew how to beat the boss, I was just shitty at doing it

[@essketit-vp7bk]

Please come back

[@aqua-technic]

@@essketit-vp7bk wish granted

[@slowkole]

I love you man

[@averageparasenjoyer]

Trolled

[@Rose0004]

I know this video is way old, but I still find it hilarious how everyone's all upset about Cybershell's barrel comments.

[@charmyzard]

well, Cyber is right, like, what do you do freaking out there?, press all buttons, and then, you find out UP and DOWN are the correct inputs everyone who can't get that is retarded

[@FireSonicYT]

@@charmyzard except the barrel moves up and down just by jumping on it. in fact, you can get close to clearing it just by jumping on it.

[@alyadejoure5968]

It took me an 1 hour

[@AssapimasterShinikoza]

@@FireSonicYT but you can get CLOSE but not actually get there

[@ajver19]

@@FireSonicYT that's how I cleared it when I was a kid, I had a friend over and working together we were able to get it low enough to pass through.

[@shakezula3316]

The barrel should be the final boss in Sonic Mania.

[@CloudAerisSephiroth]

sock head absolute genius, and it should have been this.

[@funkehtheoofeddab2997]

It's not

[@heyiexist0853]

Ok I’ll beat it in 5 seconds

[@ros9764]

It was so difficult that the boss was scrapped

[@cheezits_christ]

dude you just have to press up and down 😂

[@pearofclubs6280]

I watched this playthrough when it first came out and didn't subscribe at the time. I remembered this part specifically tonight and wanted to find you, and I'm super happy to see you're still around, and doing well! Absolutely agree on the barrel. Never understood the difficulty people had with it- pushing up and down felt like the right thing to do, if that makes any sense.

[@someone632]

"Jumping on it doesn't do anything" But it clearly does. Depending on how much momentum you have, the barrel will drop down farther when you land on it. Most people were stuck on this obstacle because they tried getting past it by jumping, rather than rocking the D-Pad (which, by the way, is completely counter-intuitive). It's actually totally possible to get past it by jumping on it, but it requires a lot of luck and a lot of patience, which a lot of our 5-year-old selves just didn't have.

[@Flabby555]

Who tf gives a Sega Genesis to a 5-year-old? Games require critical thinking, Pre-schoolers can't do that.

[@nicksamuel8324]

​@@Flabby555most of us were playing games since 3 or 4. Your comment is stupid and so are you.

[@angelaatrocious]

i love how hard you worked for that invincibility and you said "i'm gonna make good use of it" and then you didn't...you just watched Tails jump on spikes instead.

[@Tangocow]

That's the joke

[@reddevils500a]

I hate that barrel which I named it as "Barrel of Doom!!" when I was a kid. lol I had Sonic ready to spindash once I used Tails and kept jumping the barrel till it went down deeply. XD 10 years later, I realized how easy it was.

[@fynnthecarrotman6174]

Hi

[@rociotown]

@@fynnthecarrotman6174 - Master Oggway

[@bitMasque]

"I like this music more than Ice Cap Zone." *Reports this video for violent or repulsive content.*

[@aiwjdaiwkdwadkodawdawd]

It's his opinion idiot ( There is no exact thing to say r/woosh because I didn't even know if it's a joke )

[@hasi706]

@@aiwjdaiwkdwadkodawdawd its a joke for fucks sake

[@julianmarquez4747]

@@aiwjdaiwkdwadkodawdawd r/whooooosh

[@TheTC]

The PC version of Ice Cap is way better than the Genesis version.

[@bardhi09]

@@TheTC I just logged in to tell you that you have garbage taste. PC Music is straight trash.

[@andyjenner3097]

"I can maybe understand not knowing what to do for like a minute, maybe two!" I agree that's all it took me to figure it out. But then again, is there anything else in the game that took you more than a minute to understand?

[@johnnytaninthehouse]

mushroom hill pulley things

[@WilliamWilliamWilliamWill]

@@johnnytaninthehouse OMG SAME I WAS STUCK WITH SONIC Years years ago tho

[@tepigplays52]

The barrel part made me laugh so hard

[@checkmarc8474]

Same here. I'll admit, when I first played this zone as a kid, I time overed that barrel part, but only once.

[@HargMentor]

this god damn barrel literally no joke took me 3 years to figure out and i didnt even figure it out i just googled it when i got internet

[@taben9jake]

I think i had issues because jumping gives you feedback that seems to ne what you need to do.

[@HargMentor]

@@taben9jake exactly

[@tl1882]

I learned it before i played because i dont have the game i just emulate it

[@HargMentor]

@@tl1882 I had the pc port of the game but didn't have internet, I accidentally did it once and didn't even know how I did it. Every time I came to it I just smashed all the keys hoping it happens again

[@tl1882]

@@HargMentor lmao

[@EmmyPupcake]

God, I remember watching this Let's Play in college and cracking up at the barrel bit. Somehow that stuck with me all these years. Tonight I got a recommendation of one of your new videos, thought "huh, that name sounds familiar", and lo and behold.

[@pearofclubs6280]

Just had this happen to me tonight :p

[@Tenhys]

My Friend, i must thank you.The barrel cinematic was so perfect : music,slow mo, and "zip sound" for the end just after the "1" at the Cunt-o-Meter... Oh my god. At first when it started, i thought that KZbin bug ('cause of freeze) But it wasn't. Than i see the barrel get bigger. I was like "What da fuck ?" And finally the barrel's description... I laughed so hard... Godamit. So hard that my heart hurt me for two days AFTER seeing the video... It's been since 2 years i didn't laugh like this.

[@CountMonsparkle]

This video triggered people so hard, long before triggering was even a thing.

[@SuperSparrow45]

4:36 I love how amidst his massive barrell rant, he still remembers to crush Tails.

[@brownandbloom]

They hated him because he told them the truth.

[@DarkMasterHUZZAH6297]

When the barrel was doing that zoom in effect, the rings looked like eyes watching it grow

[@Doomlord79]

You should have gone in the god damn special stage

[@WindWordSword]

Your quality of videos for 2008-2009 is actually really good.

[@GoemonFernandez]

04:05 - GREATEST TWIST EVER. All that build up just to absolutely shit on it, lmao

[@FlatThunder2011]

1:17 Tails: Yipee! These spikes are so fun to jump on! Sonic: O__O Tails, are you jumping on spikes? Tails: Woohooo! This is fun! Uh, I mean OUCH! Sonic: o__o

[@tailsandwakkoloverrr499]

The dramatic buildup to the barrel only to say "guys it's really not that hard" gets me every time.

[@theconnorthatusedtoreactto6283]

I love how he calls you retarded

[@Commanderoko]

A lot of people here, TvTropes and elsewhere, seem to have had a lot of trouble with the barrels. When i first heard people talking about them, I couldn't even figure out what they were talking about. Glad I'm not the only one who had no trouble at all with 'em.

[@ChibiM11]

I know people had been complaining to this guy for the 2 years but I'll say my piece: when u jumped on the other barrels, you had an idea of momentum - the higher you jump, the force of falling would push the barrel down further; you see it with the past barrels, u see it with the 2001 barrel. It acted like it needed falling force to "push" the thing further down; the concept of just standing on it and pressing up and down instead of performing an action on it was just alien to children's minds

[@Shin_FTW]

About the barrel, as someone else said: "It's an infamous case of bad interface design. See, there were no visual clues or instructions on how to control the barrel, it appeared to be an obstacle and nothing more. The fact that the object bobs up and down with momentum from your jumping lead people to believe that was the correct way to get past it. Is it possible? Actually, yes it is, though remarkably difficult." You can really make the barrels bob by jumping. That's the logic.

[@epicgamersaurus]

Is this the video where Cybershell officially went full Aspergite

[@TheRacingOtaku]

4:03 Still gets me to this day.

[@dandastardly2792]

Dude these lets plays are really good. I usually only watch games ive never played. This is a game ive played 1,000 times through no exaggeration and I love your commentary. Even if you dont come back just know I got love for you fam

[@Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooops]

7:20 love you too

[@yosh9192]

When I was a stupid fucking 7 year old, I had this plug-n-play sonic console with level select in the game select screen. I went to “SONIC 3 KNUCKLES CARNIVAL” (all the level select options on the multicart were similar to this, for example: “SONIC 2 DEATH”) I got to the barrel and immediately thought “oh, it’s moving up and down, better do that too!” I only learned like 3 years later that there were people who unironically had difficulty with the barrel.

[@Synnystershy]

I love a Cybershell insults his audience. Remember when he was Cybershell13? Also, anyone remember watching him on Viddler?

[@enigminator3578]

I never understood how people got stuck on the barrel either. It's common sense to move it up or down on it; especially for a game that uses momentum.

[@psychoboitrip3125]

Enigminator Sonic is beloved and EVIL AF SOMETIMES

[@hoodedman6579]

Things clearly were happening when you jumped on it... Clearly.

[@daehnihc]

Hooded Man not much, though. thats not how you get past it

[@thesoftparade1990]

@@daehnihc if you time a jump right you can actually get under it but there’s also a risk of getting crushed

[@skweekersstudios5161]

I remember when I played sonic 3 for the first time. When I got to the barrel it only took me 30 seconds to figure out how you do it. Later when I got more into the sonic series I learned apparently a lot of people had trouble with this. I gusse I just found it easy.

[@hypershadix1]

sonic: picks up a guide and says how to use the barel sonic: up and down um and down what the FUC-! game over. sonic shorts 6.

[@IronMiddo]

Faved just cos of the Barrel bit.

[@finalizer0]

Honestly, the whole barrel thing is just a good example of bad game design. There's zero indication ANYWHERE that pressing up and down would actually do anything with the barrel. I actually had it down where I could get through that part in about 2-3 minutes with Sonic & Tails by timing the jumping right, but it was still a royal pain.

[@eldebo99]

Found Cybershell's Let's Plays because of the mention of his barrel-mocking on TV Tropes "Guide Dang It". Been watching 'em all after I watched that one. Worthy waste of time.

[@brahimilotfi9689]

that barrel was a nightmare for me when i was kid, i play soinc 3 or sonic 3 & knuckles and i always get trouble here i don't even know how to do it i lost all my live and continue this is horrible

[@whowiseedet]

dude i dont even care if it's easy or not, that was a superbly executed use of irony

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

Honestly, that barrel wasn't intuitive because if you just tap up and down you might not notice the difference when you consider it's already bouncing after you try to jump on it like a jackass repeatedly.

[@bardhi09]

+Liberals Are The Racists (Conservative Knight) Git gud scrub

[@FEELINGS1336]

Oh and the obligatory "Do a barrel roll"!

[@Valientlink]

lol why did YT convert this to 16:9 over the years smh

[@masterknuckles1888]

Weird

[@SlushTV]

Man you gotta make another vid, you're the only lets player that I actually enjoy watching.

[@fabulousfrance]

That level is living hell. It combines the underwater part, bumpers from casino night zone, the vents from oil ocean zone, parts of metropolis zone. Basically the hardest parts of Sonic are reunited on one level.

[@RivalDreamAroma]

I can see how people couldn't figure it out, and I had trouble too at first, but within seconds I remember I quickly got it on my first time playing it.

[@JohnJr4774]

That Barrel Has Frustrated Sonic 3 Players For Years, And For Years To Come Because The First Time You See It, You DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK TO DO!

[@hexhunter2142]

7:10 was like a personal afront to the paoins of my childhood.

[@timpize8733]

The idiots are the ones who didn't notice something _did_ happen when you jumped on the barrel. So they needed to try any random thing, and found the solution out of sheer luck and stupidity. B-) That part still made me laugh a lot though.

[@RikkWolf]

Here's the deal with the barrel - the solution is yes, VERY SIMPLE. But it is NOT OBVIOUS. It doesn't even make a lick of sense, either. Pressing up and down? Is Sonic using fucking telepathy to manipulate gravity? Jumping on it is the only thing that a gamer should assume makes it work within a Sonic game. Thousands of people got hung up on this. We're not idiots.

[@pennywise1281]

I am really smart at those barrels, I love to go 'UP' and 'DOWN' on them when they static! Nice Background Music, Cybershell!

[@SonoNessuno]

Yeah... nope. I disagree with you on the barrel. Through all of the previous games and zones, when have Up ad Down ever played a part in anything whatsoever, aside from that useless "look up and down" function? Those nut-and-screw platform in Sonic 2's Metropolis Zone were controlled by running in place, same as the spinning tops in Marble Garden, where the more you run the higher up it goes. Also Marble Garden has the blue wheel switches that must be activated by spindashing. Going beyond this zone, Lava Reef has the mechanical lifts that also require spindashing. This is the only object in the entire Genesis series of games that is interacted with by pressing up ad down on the d-pad. While it might have been easy for you to figure out, I still argue that the barrel controls were an incredibly obtuse design decision, especially because the barrel DOES respond to jumping momentum.

[@321cheeseman]

I agree the barrel is retarded, but... "Through all of the previous games and zones, when have Up ad Down ever played a part in anything whatsoever, aside from that useless "look up and down" function?" Rolling into a ball. The spindash. The super peel out. Moving the Tornado in Sky Chase. Moving Tails during the Marble Garden boss. Some of the objects listed below. If you want to count special stages (hey, you said "anything whatsoever"), jumping behind or in front of Tails in Sonic 2, and switching to moving forward either from a stop or from moving backward in Sonic 3. "This is the only object in the entire Genesis series of games that is interacted with by pressing up ad down on the d-pad" There's also those bars in the water current sections of Labyrinth and Hydrocity, a similar section with panels and wind in Wing Fortress, the pulleys in Mushroom Hill, the propeller poles in Flying Battery, and the intersections in the anti-gravity tubes in Death Egg (Sonic & Knuckles came out later, but still). If CD counts, there were intersections in the tubes in Metallic Madness. You already mentioned stuff you interact with by spindashing, which sort of counts, but not really. You forgot those sticky vine things in Mushroom Hill though. If badniks count, there's Cluckoid, where ducking keeps you from being blown away, and Toxomister, where you need to spindash or kill the badnik to remove the cloud of mist. Difference with all of those is they are very intuitive, and don't deceive you by appearing to have desired effects when you are doing things incorrectly.

[@Metaknightkirby2]

Cheeseman Thank you. I was just about to rant. Glad you took care of that for me.

[@SonicTheJackrabbit]

Cheeseman All of those instances just reiterate Cybershell's point that the barrels in Carnival Night really aren't that hard to deal with.

[@Tangocow]

Patch93 That was the point

[@Chrono86]

Cheeseman you're not getting the point. All your examples still mean that you're using the dpad to control sonic's direction. The barrel is the only time you directly control another object instead of sonic

[@sirsoup9314]

my nose bled when he ranted the barrel

[@Illuyankas]

I can't believe everyone who got stuck on the barrel never once even considered pressing up or down. The controller only has so many buttons, after all. And looking up or down is one of the first things you do when you're stuck, too.

[@Broski8_Race]

I am more of a carnival night person than am ice cap

[@jeremyabbott4537]

As a kid, the only way I could get past that barrel for a while was a turbo controller and a bubble shield. There was nothing intuitive about it, and the only way I ended up figuring out how to get past it was thinking like a game designer, and how they would not lock you in a room with no way out.

[@Starway41]

I actually first got to this level today and I got stuck on the barrel so I looked on youtube and here it is. So lucky I didn't spend years trying to figure out what to do.

[@ProgressiveBoink]

Your barrel rage made my life.

[@Mimerneos]

Roflmao, I did not expect that misdirection about the barrel xD

[@brahimilotfi9689]

The barrel was easy but it was a nightmare and specially for people who never play Sonic games but yeah it never explain how to do it so it was confuse before and the fact we don't actually try with the other barrel because we don't want to stop , we like running running and running

[@averageparasenjoyer]

Someone should make cybershells barrel rant a copypasta

[@Dieselnaut16]

This barrel is so fucking easy to figure out! I don't know why all of you are so fucking retarded! You jump on it, you can't move left and right, you're gonna hit left and right like "oh I guess it doesn't do anything". Jumping on it doesn't do anything, and all the buttons do the same thing so you got two fucking options left. Up and down. And whaddya know, IT FUCKING DOES SOMETHING! I don't understand how people are like "Ohh I can't just spend- eight minutes there I couldn't figure out what to do, I've wasted all my life and continues figuring out what to do". I can understand maybe not knowing what to do for like... a minute. Maybe a minute or two at most. BUT IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD! Use your brains! I figured this out as a fucking child! Jesus christ. What's wrong with you people.

[@Rusty_Spy]

This is true. There isn't another part in the WHOLE game, I THINK in ANY Sonic game before that involves using up and down to move objects. And that there is only ONE part in the game that involves HAVING to do this. And since jumping was the only other way to move it, what else are we supposed to assume? What do expect from us when we were just children?? D=

[@shadic57]

I never had a problem with the barrel. Probably took like 1 minute or so to figure it out.

[@ros9764]

Bruh right as he said "let me show you something you might recognize" i get a 5 second ad. Thanks KZbin

[@benreay6698]

While I agree that the barrel is easy as shit to figure out, the first time I got there, the first buttons I tried were up and down... and they didn't do anything. Because of this, I went without knowing how to get past the barrel until I finally looked it up, and was surprised when it worked the second time I tried. So, for messing up its ONE JOB the first time I encountered it, fuck the barrel.

[@lance03244]

LOL! so true about the barrel. Fantastic video

[@The1AndOnlyDannyBro]

But that's just the thing - at no point in the level previously were we introduced to the mechanics of the barrel other than jumping on it. It wasn't clear that we had to do that. I spent a year trying to get past that part. I wasn't a bright child.

[@TARINunit9]

When the designer of the level publicly apologizes for the barrel, then it IS a problem, and you're just being an elitist who got luckier than us. Also, proof of apology: Yuji Naka and Takashi Iizuka Apologize For Barrel in Sonic 3

[@shakezula3316]

He apologized out of pity

[@hoodedman6579]

+sock head Thanks, mind reader.

[@demetriuskafkoulas5005]

Or maybe Cybershell has a brain and actually realized after a few minutes that jumping didn't do jack squat.

[@DandyDNA]

4:03 This gets me every time

[@CassandraTheScalie]

The fact that the barrel seems to have momentum physics when you jump on it is the problem. Maybe of it didn't move when you jumped on it, or wouldn't be the most unintuitive obstacle in a videogame after the Maridia Tube.

[@Metaknightkirby2]

Oh my god thank you, I know I'm 2 years late but everyone praises that as some masterpiece of design, "hinting" at what you have to do without saying anything, but that tube was nothing else but random.

[@tehberral]

​@@Metaknightkirby2 I know I'm late too, but you're meant to go to Maridia after Wrecked Ship where you get the Gravity suit. In your journey to the GS you should have come across a room with water that is hard to traverse, so you're incentivized to explore there after getting GS. Following that path through the rest of Wrecked Ship you should end up in Maridia's elevator. After exploring Maridia, fighting Draygon, getting the Plasma Beam etc. you should stumble onto an area with already blown-up tubes right next to the hallway tube, so you get the idea that they are destructible in some way. The issue is most people use the main tube as an entrance rather than an intended exit. How was Nintendo supposed to know that instead of going straight to Maridia from the literal item that makes Maridia viable to traverse (an area you can just stumble on casually), people would go ALL THE FUCK THE WAY through Crateria AND Brinstar to get back to Maridia?

[@PerigiClemens]

Excuse me for not being a goddamn genius.

[@GradiusicCyber]

I think people are giving him a hard time because Cyber was acting like very much a stuck up douchenozzle about the barrel part. And then when he gets to the actual barrel puzzle and says in a snark voice "Oh I'm jumping on it and it's not doing anything! What am I supposed to do?" and the barrel actually MOVES DOWN WHEN HE JUMPS ON IT and even moves down further further with subsequent jumps, that really doesn't help his case. I seriously doubt he figured out the puzzle as a child given that.

[@ItsNepNep]

the barrel plays epic music suddenlly music scratches u rant on how easy the barrel is lolololololol great video

[@TheBoxerStockman]

i agree it took me a miniute to figure those barrels. i love the carnival night zone music, gotta like that boom boom

[@tendi6403]

the legendary *drum roll* BARREL :O

[@ElRammo]

That thing you did with the spin drum was fucking funny, it took me forever to understand that shit.

[@Tylerc4xAF]

I was 4 when I played it. Passing the barrel was like convincing your strict mom to be sugar cereal

[@whailman]

No one knew how to acctivate the barrel because in the rest of the level, you used jumping to move it. No kid would EVER try that! That's why it scars people. I never tried it, and everyone else but you didn't either. So don't insult us for our anger...

[@jaffacakelover]

I had no idea those barrels traumatised so many childhoods; figured them out pretty quick. Must've been smarter than the average bear!

[@samusaran11]

The problem with that barrel is that there is no precedent prior to using the Up and down buttons to control anything. The Nut in Metropolis Zone had visual cues to tell the player to run left or right as it looked like a nut traveling on a screw or something. Here there is no visual cue that pressing up or down would do anything. I only got pass that as I exhausted any other method as pressing up and down is the least plausible would do anything. The barrel was just poor level design. If there was an object earlier in the game that encouraged players to use the up and down buttons to control said object then that would be okay as that would teach the player that some objects can be manipulated by pressing up and down.

[@Ravenkitty666]

LMAO! You're so funny about the barrel thing. I'll admit it, I'm slow. It took me a few minutes to figure out the barrel thing. :3

[@diegoarmando5489]

Tails was pure fucking win in that bonus stage before Robotnik. Love to see it.

[@MmeCShadow]

The barrel... classic. Fantastic.

[@GlobalWarmingSkeptic]

When I was a kid, I had a lot of trouble with that barrel. I thought that I might have just went a wrong way, and ended up spending a lot more than eight minutes. Then again, it was late at night.

[@Skorp4]

That barrel part was funny as hell. Favourited

[@aleckermit]

That damn barrel had me stuck forever. I had no idea you could push down to make it move! I remember jumping for like an hour.

[@pikaroni]

8 minutes? No, it took me 11 years to figure out how to do that barrel. I would play up to this point and give up, i just had no idea how to do it. Its all thanks to you that i finally know how.

[@Thenumber1yoshi]

I have a mental disabilty (ADHD, asperger syndrome it's mild though) so I have an excuse at least because it makes figuring out simple stuff like this really hard for Me because I have a hard time finding things that are lost, and to this day I still don't know how to tie My shoes, so I at least have an excuse to why I didn't figure it out because it makes Me not think before acting. Anyways yeah I'll just leave it at that.

[@chocobo92]

suscribed just because of this video. Great quality on all accounts.

[@abraveastronaut]

The reason people had trouble with the barrel is that you can get it to go -almost- far enough down just by jumping on it, so it never occurred to us that there could be more to it than that.

[@truindividual]

the most EPIC intro for an inanimate object!!!!!! Barrel of Doom only got me a little bit...lol ihad a harder time goin through the level in 10 minutes.

[@LiamRproductions]

This is so fucking funny ahahha

[@Servonix]

That one part in Carnival Night Act 2 was like HELL. Because it was before I learned how to work those freaking barrels!

[@xunap]

lol... I figured UP and DOWN so easily... and the invincibility music is AWESOME!

[@DaFallanLegend]

Lol, I remember the barel part when I used to play this game. I got stuck on it for like 7 minutes, but I eventually figured it out. Good memories.

[@Darkmage1293]

"And that is the only time Tails will ever be useful in the videos ever!" ...except for that one time with the ball-shieldy Eggman...and he did get you another life....and he does help you out in Marble Gardens....

[@TyeNee]

I figured out the barrel when I was seven. It took me like a minute.

[@Loader2K1]

Back in 1994, I actually called Sega of America's hint hotline for help on how to get past that part. Sure enough, they actually had a telphone option at that time for people that were actually stuck on it.

[@marlesimms]

I love that you let tails die at every possible opportunity. sometimes twice