Cybertruck Off Road Mode Tested VS Rivian R1T VS Raptor R At Scotty's Farm!

[@eduardoprofet3970]

What wheel/tire combo do you have on the rivian? It looks amazing!

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Thanks so much! These are our brand new MPP Mega Terra wheels on both the Rivian and the Cybertruck! The tires are 275/65/20 BFG K03's More info here: www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-mega-terra-rivian-r1t-r1s-forged-wheels/

[@Psalm-yg6yi]

Maybe best to have that rear cover up for stuff like that.

[@MrDwaynecasey]

@@MountainPassPerformance Nice ! They looks great! Any info on how those tires wheels affect performance range on road?

[@NIO3954]

AWSOME! Cybertruck looks like a freekin' UFO chasing the Rivian !

[@stevencase243]

That was some sick driving, love the close chase.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Likewise, awesome pictures from Laguna!!

[@jamiered7102]

Man, the vid from the rivian with the cybertruck following is awesome. Looks like being chased by a spaceship. Let the haters do what they do. I'm loving it more and more

[@ahmed-27000]

yeah I love it too

[@cornbread70s4]

Exactly…

[@Mrbfgray]

I literally thought in was a joke, then got sick that I had so much stock when it 1st rolled on stage. Got over that in couple days, been slowly growing on me since. It's the *substance:* steering, locking diffs, suspension....etc., that matters.

[@Jedi2155]

The CyberBeast literally looks like it's out of Jurassic Park chasing you like that @13:40 it's insane footage!

[@juanmedinar20]

The manual says to remove those front and rear aero pieces I believe before going off-roading. The Cybertruck looks awesome.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

We removed the fronts... Missed the rears! And yeah, the Cybertruck in the field looked very Dystopian. It was an awesome backdrop

[@carholic-sz3qv]

lol!!!!!!

[@GT-22]

That chase scene near the end is how I now expect all movies to to film and their chase scenes 😁

[@zeitgeist888]

It would have been really nice to see each driven over a set course for time and include the Raptor R and SxS for comparison. A detail of the various damage and causes or fixes would be great when they get repaired.

[@danielsan83]

Sick video, don’t know why so many people hate on EVs. They are badass.

[@shou635]

People feel threatened I guess.

[@robp3431]

Very expensive to repair

[@aussie2uGA]

It's turned political. This year media went wild telling liberals that Elon is a Nazi while simultaneously telling conservatives that Elon is the reason you won't be able to buy your gas/diesel vehicle soon.

[@DrakeKC]

@@robp3431ehh try repairing anything on that Raptor R. It’s not like it’s cheap!

[@truhartwood3170]

​@@robp3431statistically, EV owners spend the least on repairs and maintenance. A big part of why repairs are expensive when they do happen is because they're still being ramped up in production quickly and lots of changes are constantly being made, so there isn't the efficiency of scale yet. When there are millions of CTs on the road and they've refined it to the point they're not maijg huge changes month by month and the 3rd party parts are available then it will get as cheap or cheaper than ICE vehicles to fix (fewer things to break).

[@jooptablet1727]

I love how I was able to follow most of your technical talk because of my mountain bike background even though I know next to nothing about rally cars or whatever you call this insane type of driving haha. Unbelievable shots, so cool!

[@TJY2K]

Lesson here is if you're going to rally the CT, open the Tonneau cover

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Indeed

[@jonathanmelhuish4530]

The owners manual says it can be open or closed but they're probably not expecting you to do massive 76mph jumps like that 😂 It does recommend to remove the wheel fairings and wheel covers though. Maybe worth reading at least that page of the manual before your next offroad adventure? It's not very long!

[@michaelpatterson8758]

Doing the hard labor testing I see guys. That looked like way too much fun! Never doubt MPP commitment to full send.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

It's hard work but someone has to do it!

[@catbert7]

You should see WhistlinDiesel's Cybertruck vid; you have no idea xD

[@quicksilver40]

Those bumper shots of the cybertruck from the rivian were epic!

[@xxKURTMANxx]

Not an EV guy at all but I appreciate the proper flogging of these things. Now more Kels!!

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Kels parts just arrived, stay tuned!

[@KyleConner]

This was amazing!! Full send 👌

[@MountainPassPerformance]

It was a surprisingly good time!!

[@AllistairNeil]

The cybertruck windscreen is very hard to chip or break because of the angle. However some examples have cracked due to stress. Amazing to see them hustle round the course like that.😊

[@bugatti19]

I think sand mode on the Rivian turns off the traction control more then the other modes if not all the way off. At least that what I felt with mine.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

We'll give that a try next time, hopefully it's better!

[@police428]

This is really cool! I could see this in a movie somewhere the Raptor R being chased as the hero and Cybertruck being the Villian! Some sort of dystopian fantasy of Gasoline outlaws!

[@arkhsm]

Except of course, like this comparo....you would not see a RaptoR !!

[@Matt-dx3wo]

really doing it! Rivian looks amazing with that wheel and tire combo

[@RichardSalmore]

Too much fun😊 What a fantastic playground to test the limits! More videos...please🎉

[@GT-22]

That camera shot from rear left panel side of the CyberTruck, gave me Interstellar vibes. LOL!

[@Thailand-Servant-111]

From the video, the Cybertruck looks easy to drive and more stable than the Rivian.😊 Thanks from Thailand​🎉

[@George_Shonia]

what I like, no, what I love is that, because it is quite & there is no roaring engine noice, you hear how all the rocks & dusts are hitintg to external panels of the truck & hear electric motor noices, it gives you a cosmic vibes! feels & sounds like you're in spaceship re-entering in atmosphere or flying with an airplane trough heavy clouds with high cruising speed! this is just dream come true for me personally, I want cybertruck

[@cyberlandr103]

Excellent video and thanks for being completely honest with your feedback. We will share this with our subscribers. (PS: Tesla recommends removing the wheel aero covers and front fascia wheel fairings before off-roading. ;). Keep up the great work!

[@carholic-sz3qv]

why arent other vehicles removing any stuff?! WTF!!!

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Thanks! The rear wheel fairings are not removable. The manual notes to remove only the fronts along with the wheel aero covers. We checked the manual to be sure after all of the internet comments!

[@Turbo_Todd]

​@carholic-sz3qv jeeps without auto swaybar disconnect require you to get out and disconnect for some off-roading. The removable aero pieces on the CT are purely for better range.

[@formytots0128]

Great video. Finally expert review on off-road performance between Cybertruck and Rivian. Glad to hear Cybertruck exceeded their expectations. Thanks for the test and review. :)

[@SolveFixBuild]

Wow that looks so much fun! How are you guys going to fix the damage?

[@dre469]

Where is the VS Raptor R. I hate Click Bait titles. I guess I will be selecting don't recommend channel.

[@huabamane2]

Yeah wtf is that about

[@Saltwaterassassin]

Same. Trash channel

[@DirtJunkie]

Glad I saw this before watching video. Will also be clicking don't recommend channel.

[@scientificapproach6578]

They compared the Raptor at the end, try watching the whole video before you look fullish.

[@llJeezusll]

I think what's very misleading is most of these channels usually compare the cheaper dual motor version of the Cybertruck instead of the tri motor cyberbeast which is the true Cybertruck

[@pasangsherpa4036]

"You are Flying"........nice👍👍👍

[@rahulxsood]

I love my Cyberbeast, honestly the best truck I’ve ever owned.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nope

[@davidtrumble8609]

​@@carholic-sz3qvactually, yep. I have a dual motor CT and I can vouch for it being the best truck I've ever owned. It's not even close

[@444thunderstr0ke]

​@@carholic-sz3qv Yes actually. I also have a Cyberbeast. Never going back to gas.

[@AI-Driven-Entrepreneur]

I have the dual motor and also a YP, 3LR and S and it is the most fun, the most comfortable and my favorite vehicle ever but a landslide. I do get tired of all the attention though!

[@danielvandermerwe7921]

I have a model y performance. I’ve owned tons of cars and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. Never going back to gas.

[@Psalm-yg6yi]

I'm excited to see Scotty in that new horror movie, SMILE 2. 😂

[@CrumResearch]

Hmmm, where is the video of the Raptor R on this course?

[@jamiered7102]

It died on the way

[@JohnBarber]

Rivian, FIX IT! I can't wait to do this with my R2/R3X

[@CrumResearch]

What a great video. Hadn't realized that Rivian software was so limiting, but now we know.

[@Frank_W.]

Appreciate the video guys and your opinions regarding both vehicles. Huge fan of the Cybertruck and will be buying it. I’m not planning on doing anything near as extreme as what you put it through so I’m sure that it will hold up quite well.

[@Gallardo6669]

Dang!!!!! Outstanding footage, Exactly what I want to see (about the CT) Great recording, thank you

[@Turbo.M777]

Great video! Loved the footage. Made me very jealous of the rally track you have :D

[@KrisDelaPena]

Great stuff! Where can we find the raptor video?

[@CAAlvarez602]

Was the Rivian on the new suspension software that was just released? I heard it makes a massive difference.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

It was not! Just updated though and its very nice to drive on the road now. Big improvements.

[@BaconCruiser]

So the Raptor R is just sitting out this comparison? Also I appreciate Scotty maintaining his power stance throughout!

[@Mrbfgray]

Impressive private course and excellent driving and commentary.

[@helloalexstark]

This is all fixable by upgrading CT’s suspension, which I’m sure Unplugged and Mountain Pass can do. We need Baja CT

[@wikn8r275]

Steering systems on the cyber truck are awesome. Full send, yeah!!!

[@schmeltz]

Rally mode on the Rivian would have been better than drift. In my experience drift mode just wants to get the rear end kicked out then help you maintain a drift, whereas rally mode will give you power and let you steer with the throttle.

[@whodat9198]

He said in the comments already they tried both and rally was actually worse

[@johnkiefer1314]

Rally mode is what Rivian designed for the kind of driving you were doing. My experience with Rally mode differs from yours. It powers through turns much better than in Drift.

[@whodat9198]

@johnkiefer1314 how fast in mph were you going and what surface?

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Rally mode and drift mode both feel fine at slower speeds and without a lot of sideways action. As soon as the trucks were really crossed up at high speed the truck just shut off torque. I'm sure Rivian programmed it this way for safety, which makes a lot of sense - it's just not fun!

[@TroySavary]

​@@whodat9198So he says, with zero proof. Everyone else having a completely different experience says he is full of shit.

[@salvanas702]

Love the video, new subscriber here. Just got the beast, I didn't know you can drive the CT like that, still learning. Awesome video mate!

[@FrntRow]

This is what it a about. Glad to see it be a truck!

[@allenpotts8809]

Did you guys happen to try Rally mode on the Rivian I haven't had it shutting power like that for me. Sand mode is also know to give full power.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

We did try Drift and Rally mode with stability fully off. As soon as it was very sideways or had high G forces - no torque!

[@paulbram2]

​@@MountainPassPerformance Did you try soft sand mode?

[@Eric-xp1kl]

@@MountainPassPerformance Talk to Rivian as that is not my experience at all.

[@jeargunky2210]

@@Eric-xp1klNot mine either. Only too much power if anything in rally mode coming out of corners.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

@@Eric-xp1kl So just text our guide then? 😆 From the contacts we do have, this sounds like normal behaviour when the vehicle is in extreme situations. If you have Rivian engineering contacts, feel free to email us with details as we would be happy to do whatever is possible to keep this truck from cutting power.

[@Abebe345]

Super fun and great place! Thanks.

[@andrewvercillo6225]

probably should have had that cover rolled up when offroading like that. it just popped out of the track!

[@bigreadbaron]

Is that the cyberbeast or awd? Also what rims are on the CT? They look nice

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Dual Motor! The wheels are our new Mega Terra design - more details here: www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-mega-terra-cybertruck/

[@robp3431]

Scotty's Farm is a destination for fun.

[@canieto1]

Would it be possible to make a quick video going over the damage the Cybertruck suffered? It sounds like stronger control arms may be a worthwhile aftermarket upgrade. Thanks! this was an awesome video!

[@aussie2uGA]

Remember what their company does ;)

[@Turbo_Todd]

Both the CT and Rivian had bent control arms. Read the Raptor forums for suspension problems they have. There are many reported. Mostly shocks, but there are others.

[@haolsen3607]

Great video, so much fun to see them dancing on the gravel

[@Racing2Learn]

The video we’ve all been waiting for!

[@mitchellbarnow1709]

It’s always a party 🎉 on this channel!

[@PhotoHoag]

Thank you Scotty and Sash

[@gearanalyzer]

I’ve had a cyber beast for a few weeks now and can confidently say all of the negative talking points are for views. It rocks and is so comfy

[@JsGarage]

Did I miss something? Like no footage of the Raptor R doing the same thing.

[@jigs8437]

That's dope when Cybertruck was following the Rivian it seemed scene out of an action movie

[@Story_Teller_Everyone]

Insanely Lucky you get to be friends with Adam Sandler.

[@MountainPassPerformance]

🤣Scotty is a cool dude there's no doubt

[@GridConnections]

Very interesting, and great video! Hope to see more comparisons like this soon! Haven't had the chance to push a Rivian, but have seen some other videos where the Rivian's back end does seem to bounce a lot. No one really seems to say much about it and was thinking maybe it was camera perspective versus an actual issue, but guess it is. Also I'm sure the Rivian can improve the power, or at least improve how much power in turns you can give it via OTA, so hope they do!

[@GridConnections]

Was it a dual motor or tri motor cybertruck?

[@jeargunky2210]

That was with old software. They fixed that in large part if not completely. It’s funny they show their run in sand mode going over a regular hard dirt and grass road. Why would anybody ever do that?

[@GridConnections]

@@jeargunky2210 It's always worth testing a car's different preset modes on a run. Can sometimes surprise you how the automaker sets it up for other circumstances can actually work well in other terrains or tracks.

[@LaJuanHughes]

Finding the weak link. New suspension product for those going hard. And the cyber truck will get better

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nope

[@michaelcalmeyerhentschel8304]

how does the Rivian have more ground clearance, you set the Cybertruck that way?

[@jeysonbanaheneacheampong3930]

The Rivian back camera view of the Cybertruck was awesome 👌. It can of seems like an iron man's Ferious flying on low grounds.😊

[@MountainPassPerformance]

So cool!

[@angryrabbitproductions1690]

Great video. Nice to see these trucks pushed hard. FYI: @16:50 in the video, you mention that the Rivian pushed sideways in the rear, almost like being donkey kicked. I recently drove the R1S and experienced this exact same thing after speeding up to lane change. I asked the rep about this and he said it is an electronic lane correction feature. It can be jarring if you are not expecting it. He went on to say the feature can be disabled in the settings.

[@andrewvercillo6225]

Cybertruck is amazing! love to see an unbiased opinion

[@apexhunters5646]

Recent Rivian software updates in 2024.19 have made some big improvements to both the suspension and the traction control - it'd be interesting to see how it does once you update it!

[@gittyupalice96]

I've done the same thing with clapped out $500 cars and trucks over the years, its too much fun. Gotta say the gold medal award has to go to the 91 suzuki side kick, and silver medal to the 96 dakota lol both had more air time than a boeing 737 before they broke.

[@arkhsm]

Boeing 737s don't break with air time, but watch out, because parts may fall off !!

[@CrumResearch]

Will you guys please drive a Cybertruck RWD on the same course, once the RWD is available? Maybe next year in 2025, we'll see.

[@MC-ru1jv]

Looks hella fun!

[@AI-Driven-Entrepreneur]

The rivian sounds terrible in the cabin vs the cybertruck. Sounds like a e-formula vs a ford ranger

[@dstressr110]

In the Rivian I wonder if rally mode would make a difference? Others used snow mode for a different experience too. The modes really do change the performance and feel of the throttle and suspension. I think it would be interesting to run same course in each of the different mode programs.

[@JoshSmithEE]

Rally mode with TC off. Off-road often limits wheel slip.

[@egoequus6263]

My big criticism with CT is that the control arms are not beefy enough for driving like this. This was obvious when the first pictures of the suspension came out. Hopefully Tesla or aftermarket offers some forged versions. CT is really only robust enough for potholes in the current equipment. I was invited to buy one recently, but I passed until they announce the 4 motor, large pack version. Hopefully by then, they fix the durability too.

[@jamessmith-yk3sc]

the upper control arm is rather slender but is very long with lots of leverage may not need to be beefier

[@rubicon4wheeler]

I wish we could have seen how the Raptor R performed too. We only got to see 2/3 of what the video title promised.

[@jackylsmith8138]

So the Ford is the only one that didn’t break. Hmmmm. Not surprised.

[@SH-ni8sh]

I didn’t see it doing shit though besides the snippet in the beginning. Click baitish.

[@RouterRelated]

The ford's suspension and all will hold up... it will later get a check engine light.. 4x4 fault codes and some more random bs.

[@troynoeldner8510]

Lucky bastards, I'm so jealous

[@tunjitube17]

Raptor R hybrid would absolutely be awesome. I have a powerboost and it’s absolutely hauls

[@jake-ly]

Wonder how the gen2 motors will feel on the Rivian. Torque response is something they're saying is fixed in the new tri and quad motor. I've definitely felt the lack of torque vectoring on corners offroad like y'all showed... which may be a good thing to not wreck an expensive truck

[@jeargunky2210]

Look at what mode they’re in during the test. There is no torque response issue in proper modes for racing. You can see numerous videos of Rivian’s being driven in other modes like rally without this mysterious power loss only these reviewers have ever seen.

[@TheJanitor214]

amazing video, thanks for sharing the specific settings you're driving these with!

[@allenx2308]

Nice!!! Test that cybertruck!

[@jaydoh6420]

How much would the repairs cost for the cybertruck?

[@shahbazfawbush]

Badass, need racing like this

[@jysmtl]

Was this a gen 1 or gen 2 R1T?

[@MountainPassPerformance]

Gen 1! We just missed the Gen 2... Our truck was one of the first Canadian deliveries that occurred only a few months before Gen 2 came out!

[@jysmtl]

@@MountainPassPerformanceAwesome. I’ve got a gen 1, also. Amazing the improvements and upgrades they put into gen 2. Starting with the over 1000HP, quarter mile in 10.5 version. I’m actually more interested in some of the other less flashy improvements. Hey, that course looks great - he should rent out track time!

[@Tom-ud8jy]

The cybertruck bed cover was deployed and the rivians was not. Not a fair damage report unless both are stowed.

[@boostav]

I mean the Rivian one breaks while driving on pavement so...

[@coolsquad7428]

@@boostavThey both do 😂😂

[@boostav]

@@coolsquad7428 No, the one on the Cybertruck is generally reliable, few failures while in normal use.

[@coolsquad7428]

@@boostav I see over half of them don't work

[@boostav]

@@coolsquad7428 Complete nonsense

[@Mrbfgray]

1st time here--subbed. Nice "work", so to speak. 😀

[@Mrbfgray]

(((only deficit here is a Raptor comparison, lk to see that)))

[@huabamane2]

I got a chance to trial the rivian here in Australia and couldn’t believe the power throttling. Approached some deep sand with some speed to keep up momentum and the car stopped all power and just went into a slow crawl. Didn’t get stuck but was very close to. Absolute no go for me and something that needs to be addressed. we had rivian folks in the car who also didn’t know how to disable it any further

[@jasonbegalke]

Impressive from the Cybertruck!! Would love to see an EV that can do real off-roading things built on a smaller platform! i.e. Can fit down narrower “Jeep” trails…

[@markburmeister4674]

Eventually we will have EVs available in all sizes and types, like we do with internal combustion vehicles.

[@ivan333777]

And so where was Raptor? Why is it in the title, i don’t see anything besides the first 4 seconds

[@MountainPassPerformance]

It was in every clip in spirit

[@ivan333777]

@@MountainPassPerformance , I thought cars don't have it. But I guess we are talking about the Raptor, must be different. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@BrandonMeyer1641]

Tesla and Rivian should take note of the damage the trucks experienced in this video. It would be nice for both of these trucks to be even tougher in their future iterations. That being said these guys were absolutely mobbing on private land which is something I suspect very few of these trucks actually experience. A good next test would be to see how these trucks compare in slow speed rock crawling.

[@ShaunRF]

Planning to post pictures of the bent suspension components?

[@jamiered7102]

They look the same as all other bent components

[@cryptoskillz]

Hell ya, cybertruck for the win

[@carholic-sz3qv]

why didnt you film the raptor too?! i came here for that

[@thinkerdoit]

Agree! Sad, Rivian needs to update the power slide capability, esp in modes where you’d rely on it to hit a turn predictably. Making power delivery counter intuitive to put down - tbh, is NOT the safe play inc not fun or adventurous!

[@USUG0]

subjective feelings are OK. But timing of a lap/stint, including the raptor, would have given a more objective comparison of the trucks' capabilities. Also, should specify what versions of the trucks are there, as there is more than one spec

[@MountainPassPerformance]

We used the speeds over the jump as well as the speeds through the whoops/g-out as a fair benchmark. The Rivian and Cybertruck both did the jump at 60-61km/h. Scotty doesn't go faster than 62-64km/h with his Raptor on the jump, and the Raptor is bottoming quite hard at that speed. Through the whoops the Raptor is able to go around ~5-8km/h faster with the same bottoming loads - but as you can see from the first clip in the video it's very violent and sends the truck rolling sideways as it bounces through the air. The Cybertruck was the smoothest but both the Cybertruck and Rivian bottom out harder and earlier in the largest compression compared to the Raptor.

[@Dave-ei7kk]

@@MountainPassPerformanceWhich spec CyberTruck did you test? Dual or tri-motor? Not a small detail…

[@varietyegg]

This some real CT testing

[@patrickhornacek8593]

Awesome video! Thanks guys.

[@jonathanmelhuish4530]

You mentioned that the Rivian landed the jumps better, but I think you jumped the Cybertruck at 76mph and the Rivian at 52mph? The Cybertruck definitely came down with a crash but I wonder if it would have handled better if you went the same speed as the Rivian managed. And maybe the suspension arm wouldn't have broken :)

[@trottingwolf]

That part you broke off costs $15 for a new one and is pretty easy to install.

[@canieto1]

Great content!

[@chankane]

thats's some sic action!

[@smallgiant6064]

First video I have seen of really sending any of the EV trucks.