Cybertruck Turning Radius Put to Test! Shootout Between a Few Tesla Models & Ram 1500, For the Win!

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[@ichthyander45]

If I heard correct, the rear tires now only go a maximum of 5 degrees but after software update, it will be 10 degrees turn and that would even make the turning diameter shorter..

[@TSportline]

That will be something cool, we will be on the lookout!

[@Stone815]

Not even 5. I think they said out of the gate from delivery day it was 3% and they would slowly go to 5 then 10.

[@Critters]

It's a great test / demonstration. Nitpicking time :) You should add cones for just over half the turning circle and find the maximum distance between two cones, it looks like on the CT measurement you may have picked two cones that are not 180° apart, and therefore not the full diameter of the circle as the line did not pass through the center point of the circle. Scribing more than half a circle will let you take a measurement where, moving one end of the tape either direction decreases its length, proving you have indeed measured the full diameter. But again, nitpicking, it is clearly as tight if not tighter than the Model S. Now you have a measure, if they do release a software update that unlocks more of the rear wheel steering potential, it'd be good to re-run the test to see the impact it had. Maybe you could get a measure of the max angle today, as I have seen some people say 3° and some say it is 5°, it'd be good to get an actual angle from you guys so with future updates we can see how much it changed.

[@TSportline]

Ah yes! The Sun was setting and we wanted to do a quick and dirty test to get things rolling. We will re-do after Tesla increases the rear steering angle limit...if they do! thanks for watching

[@SFzip]

This was just a fun demo. The turning circle is 40.8 ft for the Model X, 40.3 ft for the Model S, and 37.1 ft for the Cybertruck.

[@TSportline]

For sure, we had fun!

[@thedownwardmachine]

Don’t forget the steering angles, front and rear, are speed dependent, so any variation in speed above creeping around may increase the turning radius above and beyond factors like tire scrub.

[@TSportline]

Good points!

[@slavko321]

Ugh that plaid is SAVAGE! Wouldn't mind a big garage and a couple of teslas inside.

[@TSportline]

This Plaid is🔥

[@LeesReviews69]

I don’t know when you’re measuring straight across. Is it exactly halfway? You’re just measuring cone to random cone

[@TSportline]

We measured across the center point of the circle, ⭕️👍🏻

[@klantic2]

Great information!

[@TSportline]

Glad you think so! Thanks for watching!

[@mikecounsell]

My model S turning radius feels like a few light years…. Still love her ❤

[@TSportline]

Exactly, and same - love the Plaid

[@George_Shonia]

I'm glad that you doing something way more interesting then just showing us interior & exterior design changes

[@TSportline]

Thanks! More to come!

[@GroovyGoat-GroovyGoat]

This was soooo unscientificly done, but fun to watch!! I wouldnt put any money on the accuracy of this testing procedure, but great content.

[@TSportline]

Glad you enjoyed it! Yes, we knew this was amateur hour...but figured some would enjoy it!

[@TeslaOwnersSV]

This is awesome

[@TSportline]

Thanks guys!

[@Jerico64]

would be nice to have a drone shot of this!

[@MrQuay03]

You didn’t mark the center

[@TSportline]

Not formally, but the cone circle extends beyond 180 degrees and our measurement chord stretches across the center point of the circle :)

[@ers247]

could you film trying to park the CT in a full parking lot. Just to see how easy it is to park with steer by wire

[@TSportline]

Will do, it's easy to parallel park, we've done that.

[@carlover4239]

Agreed on this, also curious!

[@huehuetotl]

The turning radius can be calculated by dividing the wheelbase of the vehicle (the distance between the front and rear axles) by the tangent of the angle of the turn. The formula is: R = (WB) / tan (Θ), where R is the turning radius, WB is the wheelbase, and Θ is the angle of the turn

[@TSportline]

Yes, real testing vs theoretical is always interesting - tires scrub, which is not factored in the pure math

[@jaimeduncan6167]

That works for normal cars without the back steering.

[@huehuetotl]

@@jaimeduncan6167 do the same for the rear and substract from the front.

[@SurBlox]

@@huehuetotl how do u get the angle the wheels turn

[@ciaotesla]

aren't the back wheel locked at 3 deg right now and will get to 10 deg with software update? impressive!

[@TSportline]

We've heard different things about what might be coming...this is it for now, but we'll re-test if they software unlocks more!

[@TestTest-ve4ih]

I am going to need the Benny Hill music on this video since the high asf Tesla driver is so darn adorable.

[@TSportline]

Ha ha nice!

[@TheBostonstapler]

id be interested to see a f450 do a turn. or those bigger trucks that have a different front steering geometry for tighter turns

[@martinmcnulty8155]

Hi I'm hesitating between a Fisker Alaska and a Cybertruck. How fast is the Cybertruck round the corners?

[@TSportline]

Watch the first couple seconds of this video, this Cybertruck SCOOTS!

[@martinmcnulty8155]

​@@TSportlineYes I saw the turning radius but that doesn't mean it can corner fast.

[@danharold3087]

@@martinmcnulty8155 Neither does it say it can't. Did you see the haggerty video where they ran the CT on a go kart track. IT was insane.

[@1er]

Can you test the turning radius of an F-117 Nighthawk? Trying to decide between Cybertruck and Nighthawk 😉

[@TSportline]

That would be cool!

[@DougN0782]

Gooseneck! Does the CT have mounts for a goose neck and will it clear the side walls? Hope to see this in a future vid.

[@soapbullet-tq8zf]

Correct would be starting measurements from the first cones

[@TSportline]

Lots of ways to do it - the cone circle extends beyond 180 degrees and our measurement chord stretches across the center point of the circle :)

[@Art_of_Ramon]

But what does a 3-point turn look like with the drive buttons above?

[@TSportline]

Really good - doing parallel parking, this works well!

[@Shabobidhuffy]

Nobody has been able to answer this question: is the E-locking differential(s) on the cyber truck manually selectable for the front and or rear differential? How does one engage the lockers ? Only low speed ?

[@danharold3087]

Your question is valid. But it is software controlled. I expect to see many updates regarding the drivetrain and suspension to improve capability. There is so much that is possible with this setup. I was disappointed with the rear wheel steering thinking that it was as good as it gets. 3 to 10 degrees should be interesting.

[@jambaman916]

Would love to see the Rivian R1T and R1S do this!

[@TSportline]

Good idea!

[@raysautorehabrestoration9182]

How come that s plaid doesn't look like a Tesla at all 😂. Nice job guys

[@TSportline]

This Plaid is spiffed up a bit with our wheels and carbon fiber body kit :)

[@bazanime]

He did say its not a scientific exact test afterall. 🙂

[@TSportline]

For sure, we knew we'd get some comments objecting to our informal test, ha ha!

[@stevenpaul6529]

That's not a radius, it's the diameter.

[@TSportline]

Keep watching, we put both diameter and turning radius on the screen eventually :)

[@DadEncyclopedia]

Just hang a bucket of paint in the rear car, let the paint drip slowly, and you can see the rotation radius around the circle.

[@thesteveruss]

Now do a Smart car.

[@TSportline]

Those little things, ha ha - probably tiny turning radius

[@claytonw_cz]

Nice test, thank you. But what about using a metric system? These numbers in feet and inches look horrible. It's really time to move...

[@TSportline]

Ha ha, USA so slow to adopt metric!

[@rcpmac]

Measured to the wrong cone. Nice hack job to boost your CyberStock

[@francoisbedard6021]

You should get a baseball line chalker or something similar attach it to the front corner that way you can find the exact 180... Otherwise a great video

[@TSportline]

Good idea!

[@Szlejer]

Best selling pickup truck in the world... then he is saying Dodge? The dude is a natural born comedian! :D

[@TSportline]

Ha ha, Ford fan checks in!

[@johneken2056]

Your measuring a chord, not the diameter of a circle. Get a string and a spray can of paint and measure from the center of the cul-de -sac. Mark out a circle of a known diameter...

[@TSportline]

Yes for sure - but that chord was pretty darn close to thru the centerline of the circle! This was a quick test, we'll do more later :)

[@danharold3087]

@@TSportline Seems everybody's a critic.

[@LakeLake123]

That’s actually quite poor for having 4WS. Hummer EV pickup is 37.1’. Hummer EV SUV is 35.4’

[@LearningFast]

No one has done a Dragy test with a CyberTruck yet. It would be great if you did a 0-60 mph, 1/8 mile, and 1/4 mile test with it and uploaded it to Dragy.

[@bazanime]

CarWow UK did that weeks ago.

[@davidmenasco5743]

​@@bazanimeTheirs was a prototype. We need CT track vids.

[@Martinmack333]

maybe next time leave the first set of cones in place and then add the second set...would be a better visual, especially if you used different color cones.

[@TSportline]

Well, it's much harder than you'd think to 'line-up' the next car. We did this at first, very challenging! But, the diameter doesnt care - the way we did it was the most accurate us rookies could do! ha ha

[@JFabric500]

Why does the driver door look darker than the rest of the truck?

[@TSportline]

Great question, not all stainless panels are the same - we have noticed this....time for a vinyl wrap!

[@mydadchessmaster]

How would you know that this is diameter you are mesuaring?

[@TSportline]

The cone circle extends beyond 180 degrees and our measurement chord stretches across the center point of the circle :)

[@lukeknowles5700]

You are clearly not taking a full half circle, so your so-called diameter is not accurate.

[@TSportline]

It is video optics distortion, trust me it was measured almost exactly across the center point of the circle!

[@GMK189-f2k]

In meantime Tesla cybertruck could only tow 11000 lbs 100 miles and had to unhook from trailer to recharge for an hour . Ram truck went 350 miles and pulled into gas station with trailer and was filled up in 4 minutes and back on the road.

[@matty7834]

With 10 degrees of rear steering, 16 ft 10 inches is theoretically possible, pretty wild

[@TSportline]

Not yes 10 degree, but maybe eventually - stay tuned!

[@mmeiselph7234]

A u-turn on a real street would be useful to see.

[@TSportline]

Good idea, we did a few of those in our video about the Extract mode, check this kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqmcYahjm6uhsM0

[@danharold3087]

I want to see someone do a J-turn aka boot-leg turn.

[@George_Shonia]

Now wait till Tesla will unlock whole potential of it, it's now turning with 3 degree, 7 more is coming

[@TSportline]

Looking forward to that!

[@danharold3087]

Not just the turning but the entire software defined vehicle.

[@RedRyan]

Why didn't you just get the tires wet and measure the tracks?

[@TSportline]

Ha, not a bad idea! thanks

[@lourdessilva6442]

Grata

[@CryptoNut82]

Ram test is flawed, should have went to cone to POVs left as it would be going through center of circle better, you can clearly see the cone was even further away as the radius was still moving outward. Nevertheless the cyber truck is less

[@TSportline]

@TSportline • 0 seconds ago Well, a Dodge Viper is 2wd...incomparible to these AWD Teslas - the Tesla has front drivetrain/axles, which comes at a price for turning. On your Ram, is it 2wd? Short bed? Extended cab? Need to understand wheelbase too. For each wheelbase - expect different turning. And 2wd will be smaller turning radius than 4wd. Thanks for watching!

[@larsnystrom6698]

Wouldn't it be better to see how wide road you need to turn around without having to reverse. Much easier than trying to measure across a circle, trying to go through the center of it. Not so easy! My old Volvo 245 kombi needed less than10 m. And that were 40 years ago. These Trucks, needs more than 12 m. Not much progress The thing is, very frew roads are wider than 10 m.

[@delxinogaming6046]

Why measure the non-cybertrucks??? All the rest of these cars turning radius’ are freely available via google 😂

[@TSportline]

Well, makes it easy to see a comparo with the rest, no Google needed 😆

[@danharold3087]

For accuracy always measure with the same ruler. :)

[@vipahman]

This test is flawed. I have turned my Ram in under 25 feet. And my Viper in under 20 feet. Someone needs a driving lesson in the accelerator pedal and mechanics.

[@ztechrepairs]

Agreed ithink to many factor play into this kind of test. Still kind of cool to see though

[@jamesrose1191]

I think they have to have a known circle so that they can get the diameter not some arc to either side of center.

[@ChitFromChinola]

Training: You turn the wheel until it locks, then go slow in a circle. There you go, now you’re a certified trainee! Their turning radius for the Ram pick-up was 22’ 5”, so less than your 25’. They must’ve had good training!!

[@TSportline]

Well, a Dodge Viper is 2wd...incomparible to these AWD Teslas - the Tesla has front drivetrain/axles, which comes at a price for turning. On your Ram, is it 2wd? Short bed? Extended cab? Need to understand wheelbase too. For each wheelbase - expect different turning. And 2wd will be smaller turning radius than 4wd. Thanks for watching!

[@thedownwardmachine]

The OP is mistaking turning radius for donut radius lol

[@masminor]

Why are all utube videos 12 minutes long with only about 1 minute of good content these days? Stop making video for the algorithm.

[@TSportline]

Ha ha, wish we were that methodical! Reality is we're having fun and sharing CT tech, but we're obviously not pro KZbinrs! We have shortcuts to each measurement in the description, so you can skip our banter! Thanks for watching :)

[@teslatalk42069]

My foundation series will be here within the next two months but let’s not get crazy here… The cyber truck is never going to outsell the F150. Some people need a true work truck and the cyber truck is not that.

[@xploration1437]

What an ignorant comment.

[@davidmenasco5743]

I'm not so sure. I think it'll be interesting to see how things develop. I do expect Lightning sales to go up and up for some time. I'm hoping Ford can up the charging speed a bit for 2025. The CT may need to improve in that area as well. As more people get into them, they will realize the relative importance of charge curve over range numbers.

[@TSportline]

We will see!

[@kkulkulkan5472]

Ford sells over 600k F series trucks a year. Cybertruck doesn’t plan to hit that kind of production volume. Maybe 200K max each year. So F series truck will continue to outsell CT for quite sometime regardless.

[@davidmenasco5743]

@@kkulkulkan5472 Hmmm. I was thinking about the Lightning specifically. But the fate of all those pickup truck sales is an interesting question. Eventually, they will all have to shift to electric. What will the sales numbers look like then? How will that pie be divided?

[@danmobileTM]

Now try a newer Smart car

[@TSportline]

🚗

[@ArizVern]

2023 CYBER TRUCK REAL WHEELS TURNS 3 DEGREES, BUT BY END OF YEAR, 2024 CYBER CHANGES REAL WHEELS WILL TURNS 10 DEGREES, SOFTWARE UPDDATE.

[@TSportline]

We will look for that update!