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[@pmwbison]

If I was going to use it for construction site, I would get Electrician to build a small electrical panel. That get feed from the 240v plug and have 4 20 plugs on breakers. And then maybe a 50 foot 240 extension cord if you need to put in a central location.

[@Digital-Dan]

Came here to say essentially this.

[@melonmelon2848]

Both trucks are pretty useful if you need them to, that's good to know

[@usa-ev]

From the Cybertruck owner's manual: "All AC power outlets combined (120V cabin, 120V cargo bed, and the 240V cargo bed outlet) are limited to a combined maximum of 40A."

[@ryanstubbs3211]

Yeah, this was dumb. Read the owner's manual and find the specs.

[@jameshisself9324]

Great hack. Remember that the power tools will draw considerably more under load when actually cutting or drilling or grinding, so running many of them at once (doubtful in the real world, I know) you could end up putting 40 amps or close to it through that pigtail.

[@topherdean1024]

Ya, I was wondering, I have 100 amp service in my house. Sometimes I have people in my shop running routers, my table saw, charging batteries, chop saw and there's no problem. I have the table saw on a dedicated 20 amp and compressor/chopsaw on another 15. But my wife could be doing laundry and cooking with the oven and running the vacuum all at the same time too, plus lights, internet, maybe my son watching tv. It doesn't seem like one of these trucks could handle all that. I guess if the Cybertruck was plugged into your house during a power outage, you might be able to do all that? Not for long though. LOL

[@jameshisself9324]

@@topherdean1024 Agreed, doubtful. What I was getting at is a saw or grinder that is just free spinning is a light current draw, but if there is wood going through the saw actually being cut the load is considerably higher during the actual cutting. As soon as the wood is through the blade the load drops back down again.

[@topherdean1024]

@@jameshisself9324 Yes, I'm painfully aware of that. When I'm in the middle of a rip and the saw dies, it's time to up the breaker or switch to a different one. Anyway, having power in your truck puts all 3 EV trucks ahead of any gasoline truck. 🤔Didn't they say the Cybertruck was going to have a compressor to run nail guns too? I guess they axed that idea.

[@jameshisself9324]

@@topherdean1024 Ahh ok cool. I agree it is a game changer. I don't do new construction much anymore but I can remember the hassles of having to provide your own power on a jobsite. What a difference this could make.

[@troywhite6039]

@topherdean1024 If there where a power outage, especially for a long duration your probably going to be to busy with other stuff than running all those power hungry devices. For one you want to preserve food freezers from going out so and probably A/C to keep cool all else you would want to wait on unless absolutely necessary.

[@wallykramer7566]

I was really smiling from the _Batman_ show transition sound! Thank you for cleaning up your descriptions of 120 or 240 volts. The legacy of 110/220 is over 40 years gone!

[@ryanstubbs3211]

Jesse working on that dad bod I see.

[@iowa_don]

8:14 - Digging the Batman TV show sound effect!! 🤣🤣

[@dennisarntz3177]

According to the Cybertruck owners manual, the max rating of both 120 volt plugs in the bed is 20 amps total, the cabin 120 volt plugs also are 20 amp max total and the 240 volt outlet in bed is 40 amps max. The total combined for all plugs together is limited to 40 amps. This is considerably lower than what you showed in the video. Please revisit this. Thanks

[@usa-ev]

I look forward to the hat eating episode.

[@D0li0]

Could just do the kW (split phases), Lightning has 9.6kW (3.6+3.6)+(2.4) and the CyberTruck has 9.6kW (4.8+4.8) + Power share of 11.5kW, but then the Lightning also has the DC home power backup capabilities.

[@usa-ev]

@D0li0 But my guy, you're thinking rationally not emotionally, and that doesn't show how the CT is any better, and we've got all this Tesla stock, you see? Com'on, man!

[@itsallgoodaversa]

“Toasty!” Reference was amazing. I’ve has that as my text tone for over 10 years.

[@SkepticalCaveman]

The inside outlets can be used to charge batteries, for example.

[@robertfinck1275]

I think what you are demonstrating for average use would not be practical in real world use. Myself I would have the Truck charging cordless batteries for tools. Haven't used corded toold in at least a decade.

[@odyshopody9387]

I see that they are trying to come up with whats possible and as time goes on we'll encounter all examples but i agree - it's all battery tools or large plug in saw tables.

[@PlanetEarth3141]

Exactly. People use power tools with attachable batteries and they're rechargeable later. You bring somewhat more of the than needed by experience. Using non portable tools, especially at a site is mostly a gone idea. I don't think buying an expensive Cybertruck to power hand tools is really justifiable or will sell Cybertrucks. FSD, and star link built in are more important. Also automatic tire inflation or deflation to a set parameter for off roading.

[@PlanetEarth3141]

This video series is not future iteration oriented and would be more interesting if it was. Cybertrucks next model will be better in lots of ways and this channel seems to not realize it ahead of time.

[@PlanetEarth3141]

@@Wi2Low The problem I have with your statement and all such comments and those who write them is lack of proof. If you can think then you should have real world statistical data to prove it. Since you didn't your statement is unfounded and only an opinion. Please prove me wrong to the benefit of everyone so we actually know when corded tools should be used or non corded tools. Not guesswork, but actually data driven tested results.

[@howardeldridge847]

Than you just have to plug your charger into the truck.

[@PygKLB]

I see that Zac and Jesse’s beards are competitively growing.

[@ryanstubbs3211]

Their bellies too.

[@jcr5797]

they have the spliters that have fuses in them also that cost around $40 Interesting, the F150 is touted as a construction truck that people buy just for another vehicle. Where the CYBERTRUCK was designed as a vehicle that can also be used by construction worker or tow.

[@NicholasBlair]

I feel like space heaters would be a better way to draw a lot of power easily ( and safely 😅)

[@JamesStout-eGandalf]

And inexpensively…

[@chettross9852]

I know you only want ideas from Patreon supporters, but I’m going to suggest them anyway. There is an accessory wire underneath the front tub of the Cybertruck. Can you use that wire to put a 110 outlet in the frunk? And if the wire for the light bar is by directional, can you put flexible, solar panels on the glass roof and plug them in and charge the battery.

[@chadthibodeaux8533]

Well then be a patron supporter, it's a dollor

[@trevormeyer2820]

I can help answer that for you. The accessory mid voltage system is not bidirectional. Nor can it support a 110/15 outlet as it is maxed at 180W. Here's what you could do though: use the accessory 45v system as a trickle charge maintainer that can be turned on and off to a 12v battery through a charge controller. In parallel to the battery wire an mppt solar charge controller and a 2kW inverter. Add solar to spec for your battery and controller. Then L1 charge your truck from the 110/15 inverter circuit.

[@dennisarntz3177]

The 40 amp 240 volt Cybertruck outlet is good for a maximum amp of 40. When you split each side of the 240 circuit you still only have 40 amps total but now at 120 volts. So having 4- 120 volt outlets on your plug might be convenient for plugging in various appliances each plug is only good for a total of 40 amps by itself. But since it is a 20 amp plug you should limit it to just 20 amps. Again even though you have 4 outlets the max rating is still limited to using 20 amps on any 2 of them at one time. Remember circuit breakers are rated for amps not total power. If you tried using all 4 pluga at 20 amps the Cybertruck circuit breaker will trip. Please please have this verified by a certified electrician so other Cybertruck owners don't try to pull 80 amps from the 240 volt outlet. Again the wire and breaker are limited to 40 amps no matter what voltage it is on. Its the power that gets doubled for the same size wire when you go from 120 to 240 volts

[@ZachGrady]

This is correct the amperage is the limiting factor.

[@CalgarGTX]

You didn't test if the 20amp cabin plug in the cybertruck was independant from the other ones either tho ? Or maybe I'm dumb

[@supercadet111]

They tested that in the last video.

[@usa-ev]

​@@supercadet111And they were connected. From CT owner's manual: "All AC power outlets combined (120V cabin, 120V cargo bed, and the 240V cargo bed outlet) are limited to a combined maximum of 40A."

[@virgilwhetsel5289]

You two are a hoot!! Fun to watch. FYI the 240V circuits on both the Ford and Tesla are using a common neutral conductor and any load on each of the two 120V circuits reduces the neutral load from the other 120V circuit. In other words the two 120V loads become series circuits on 240V and the neutral conductor only carries the imbalance. I wonder if there is any Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) built into the system to detect a ground fault to protect the user? Are the circuit breakers manual reset or do they reset automatically when the overload is removed? I'm an old, retired electrician who dreams of owning a Cybertruck along with my Model Y. (Wife is extremely skeptical that I actually need one;)

[@surferdude4487]

That's the most technically accurate way I've ever heard about how the phase splitter works. BTW, my Dad was a master electrician for over 50 years.

[@usa-ev]

Ford has GFCI. Not sure about CT. Ford has manual reset CT auto resets after 2-3 seconds.

[@michaelsmithers4900]

Another good hack is to primarily use battery powered tools and use your outlets for charging batteries and maybe running compound mitre saw or a portable table saw as needed.

[@jrmoneyloser]

I'm sorry...did we just get a Dan "Toasty" Fortson cameo!?!? 🤣🤣 Love it! 💪

[@Spatial_Computer]

Jesse, dude, holding the angle grinder with fast spinning disk facing you, no safety glasses or shield and you think not looking at it will save you from injury? Glad electricity still works right. :)

[@Mathis218337]

They coulda just taken the actual disc out lmao

[@TheWoodStroker]

Tools under load use more juice. I usually only pop a fuse in my shop when tools are working very hard.

[@beerman1957]

240v times 40 amps is 9600 watts max. There’s a 20% safety buffer and that would cut the watts to about 7680 continuous power.

[@imjody]

Guys, I love these so much. Thank you for going into so much detail! It's insane how many things can be plugged in and running at full power on these trucks; especially the Cybertruck... That's like, a 1,200 watt microwave, a kettle boiling water, that gun, and a hair drier going at the same time with no problem. 😆Absolutely ludicrous and over the top, but nothing wrong with that!

[@GoTellJesusSaves]

I think Zach will make a good Santa claus if he lets the beard grow. Thanks for playing in the Cybertruck. 👍 👍

[@a1asdairpage]

In the UK, or over engineered electrical plugs have a fuse in the plug. 👍🏼

[@DouglasJMark]

Power to the Cybertruck people!

[@cjonesplay1]

I have to buy that adapter. Even though I will probably never use it.

[@stuz32]

I still vote removing the grinder disk for these tests, only takes half a second to be missing a finger... :-)

[@usa-ev]

Especially with that auto reset!

[@matthewslome4786]

Would love to see the draw on those tools under load.

[@anthonystefanacci9890]

You should be using watts as the comparator between the trucks, not amps.

[@dennisarntz3177]

Your test showed the 40 amp plug using 4.3 KW or 4300 watts. Divided by 118 volts equals 36 amps. You did not exceed the the 40 amp rating. However Cybertruck says it's max rating for all plugs together is limited to 40 amps. The truck does not have 120 amp capability.

[@petribz400]

Yes we would run an extension cord out

[@adonaicolon2136]

Can you include the Silverado? I'm debating on that one as well and more readily available.

[@Klaatu_]

I have a request regarding Cybertruck. I am interested in towing and going down hill. I believe there are different braking options and I would like to know more information about those options..

[@ElMistroFeroz]

The ford can use its onboard power is usable while the ford is also charging.

[@pfcrow]

What are the odds of Ford getting a recall on the bed outlets for putting out 30A when they should be limited to 20A? That seems unsafe (like using the splitter). Likewise, is Tesla likely to get a recall on the auto-reset of the fuse causing stuff to come back on (perhaps right after setting down the "off" tool)? At least Tesla could fix that in software.

[@coolmoneyify]

What about the extension cord with a breaker built in.. they sell them at Home Depot I think

[@highlanderapparel]

You can put a construction site g f I on any of those chords The highlander

[@lesterng5748]

Be careful with the grinder you don't want to lose a toes or fingers !

[@quokka7555]

Why won’t you drive it? You’ve had it for weeks and it’s always parked. Your patreon supporters are on the spectrum if they’re voting for this…

[@ch4.hayabusa]

Dealership markups bring the lightning up to $93k... EE likes to bring up how cheap it was... Until dealerships get involved

[@stephenreese5921]

Boats use this “trick” whenever they have limited service in the Abaco islands.

[@RayJohnson1980]

i wonder could you use nacs to charge another EV with DC power from the cybertruck battery to save on loses from conversion from dc>ac>dc

[@RayJohnson1980]

also push the maximum of 14kw as 120amps x 120v is 14,400 watts

[@GM-qh2ki]

For a minute there you were going to accidentally point the heat gun at your hair and melt it!

[@lesterng5748]

If you need to run a welder cybertruck for the win

[@jimpearson7743]

Why not use the welding rig to test again? (or was that a 240 plug?)

[@redplanet76]

great job guys

[@HernanSoberon]

oh yea. plese give us more bloopers

[@elborro444]

Interesting comparison for sure, but I think the real EV truck war is around range and charging performance

[@thomaswilliams4944]

Thanks fellas!!

[@chazzageorge3506]

Amazing video with definitive proof! I have one glaring concern with cybertruck, I have been seeing videos on the cybertruck range when towing and it seems shocking!!!!!! Please get to this topic quickly before it spirals Zack and Jessie!! also I would love for tesla in a year to say to all cybertuck owners that their cyber truck can go double the range for a fee. This can sound bad, but it would be a battery win i've been waiting for.

[@MXP90DL]

Good test, but the Ford does not beat tesla in range like Silverado does. Silverado doubles range of cybertruck and now your test is making me think that maybe the Chevy will give a strong test here to cybertruck.

[@thomasgauthier5691]

They should verify how the Cyber Truck's 20 Amp circuit breakers are split too. They easily did it to the F150, so they can do the same with the CT.

[@supercadet111]

They tested that in the last video.

[@vincentdeleonjr1039]

always good stuff

[@MarkBarrett]

Would have been nice to include the Silverado.

[@CL-gq3no]

They don't have one. They buy these cars themselves. GM isn't even selling them yet AFAIK.

[@danharold3087]

Does anyone see a product for the CT with individual breakers and heat monitoring for the source plug.

[@dennisarntz3177]

I would not recomend using a Nema 14-50 240 volt to 120 volt adapter on any EV. Use the 120 volt plug, and if needed use a power cord with multiple outlets. Remember don't exceed the 20 amp rating for all plugged in devices. The 14-50 plug should only be used in an emergency where you need 120 volt power and the existing 120 outlet is not working. In a 4 wire system like the 14-50 plug if the white ground wire becomes disconnected then the device feeds 240 volts to whatever is plugged into the 120 volt outlet which will result in an overload and fire.

[@johnpoldo8817]

Wait a minute, if the white wire is disconnected on a two wire circuit, there is no return path other than ground at 120V. To get 240v, you need L1 connected to L2, unless I’m missing something.

[@whattheschmidt]

If the neutral becomes floating it will not work on those 120V adapters. 2 of them use 1 hot and neutral and the other 2 use the other hot and the same neutral (14-50 neutral). Without that neutral connection the tools just wouldn't work on the 240V adapter.

[@SR-he5wi]

Lots a tools with no loads on them.

[@CL-gq3no]

It's telling them how much power they are drawing, so why does it matter? They are just trying to pull amps/watts using loads they happen to own, not determine some bizarre combination of duplicate tools that can run at once under unknown conditions. They could have used 6 toasters. As long as they are measuring in watts or amps it's irrelevant how the load was generated.

[@scottstormcarter9603]

electric heaters

[@EricSmith-hx3gp]

The outtake was probably my favorite part. More outtakes!!!

[@IowaTech80]

+1 for toasty

[@tumbleweed1976]

Another option $1500 USD buys a portable power unit, DC-DC charger and a 200watt solar panel. Run chorded and battery tools all day.

[@CL-gq3no]

Those things don't put out anywhere near this much power and could easily be fully discharged before the days work is over.

[@tumbleweed1976]

No issues for my mobile work/lifestyle.

[@CL-gq3no]

@@tumbleweed1976, great, but those are completely different use cases. Powering some electronics and an occasional coffee pot or microwave is not anywhere near the 10kW loads a cybertruck can run for many hours straight. Both could get a lot of jobs done, but not on the same level.

[@tumbleweed1976]

@@CL-gq3no If I ever use my battery for a coffee pot or microwave I’ll report back.

[@philmagill6171]

Math is wrong on the CT 50a splitter…. It’s only taking (2) 20a circuits and splitting them into (4) receptacles… but it’s still only (2) 20a circuits. So the total including up front should be - 20a x 4 = 80a. Should probably test the CT two front receptacles just like you did on the Lightning, to see if they’re (1) or (2) circuits. Sorry for the bad news… Tesla fan, driving a MX Plaid, and I’m a FL licensed electrical contractor.

[@trevormeyer2820]

Hmmm .. (240v40a)/120v, or 9.6kW/120v = 80a. Split that 4 ways and you should have 20a each no problem.

[@CL-gq3no]

A North American 240 volt 40 amp circuit is made up of two 120 volt 40 amp circuits, not two 120v 20a circuits. So that is 80 amps total at 120 volts just from that NEMA 14-50 plug. The other two 120v plugs are 20A each as you mentioned. Total = 120 amps at 120 volts, at least based on plug ratings. More than likely the inverter has a total limit based on time/temperature that may prevent the outlets from being fully maxed out continuously.

[@philmagill6171]

I stand corrected… I worded that incorrectly. You are correct… (2) 50a/120v circuits are being shared amongst the (4) outlets of that splitter. I guess I was simply arguing how they presented the info (as if it was (4) individual 20a/120v circuits… but really it’s (2) 50a/120v circuits shared between (4) outlets.

[@philmagill6171]

And looking at the math equation in units of kW is smarter… but not always straightforward for the average Joe.

[@doncloud5822]

kewl

[@joelm077]

This was cool until you brought in safety and code. My whole crew gets a tool!

[@nickpanagiotes2608]

Why do you start off by saying "unfortunately the ford beat the cyber truck " can't you be more unbiased?

[@usa-ev]

No, they can't. They've got too much invested, literally.

[@MrHomer1995]

Why does that silly ohsa guy meme pop into my head??

[@AlanRogers250]

The Ford also has outlets in the frunk.

[@JamesStout-eGandalf]

They got to that later in the video.

[@MortekX]

I think it takes 3 phases for 240. 3 phases are spread to 3 outlets 1 phase each here.

[@surferdude4487]

FYI: 3 phase in North America is typically 208 volts. that's 120 volts between any phase and neutral, but 208 between any two phases.

[@ZachGrady]

That's wrong. In North America 240V is single phase that is then split into two 120V circuits. If you live in North America go look at you power lines, follow them back to your transformer you'll see that the primary side of the transformer is only connected to 1 phase of the grid.

[@anthonystefanacci9890]

Are you sure there is code you’re breaking? I thought electric codes like the NEC didn’t apply to vehicles which is why RVs can do what they want haha.

[@CL-gq3no]

It's probably not breaking code technically, but it would be if it was a house. They are "housing codes" after all. Having said that, for the same price they could have bought a splitter with 2 x 20 amp breakers built into it. They are available on amazon for $20 to $35. So same result without the risk.

[@supercadet111]

"Unfortunately"...Come on Jesse, your fanboy is showing. "Surprisingly" maybe😅😅

[@usa-ev]

LOL, so biased. That wasn't even the worst of it. The worst is that they've tried so hard to prove CT superior it has completely corrupted their ability to see clearly and act with integrity.

[@GlenKowalchuk]

Jessie electronics 101 ❤😊

[@PalimpsestProd]

So, fair and unbalanced. That's on brand.

[@usa-ev]

😉

[@PlanetEarth3141]

Rats, we just ruined our new Cybertruck. Call the tow truck.

[@Havark420]

Notification crew

[@heyitstim3618]

doing literally anything to make people think CT is better

[@Francisco_Manos]

They are showing you exactly how the Cyber truck is better. You don't like facts?

[@CL-gq3no]

People use splitters like that on generators and temporary job site power poles all the time for the same reasons, lot's of power, but not enough outlets in the desired combinations. I don't think it's a big stretch to do the same on a cybertruck.

[@usa-ev]

​@@Francisco_ManosHere's a fact: The CT Owner's Manual states: "All AC power outlets combined (120V cabin, 120V cargo bed, and the 240V cargo bed outlet) are limited to a combined maximum of 40A."

[@subthousandoaks]

Do you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world?!!!!!

[@hunati31]

Leave that damn noisy grinder out of the videos. Every time I hear that I will thumb down the video.

[@LaCrosseEscapeRoom]

First!