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@interlochen318
@interlochen318 Жыл бұрын
Just Think....🤔 a 20k Aprilia is competing with 30k and 40k motorcycles, that says alot for Aprilia.
@Trancepotato
@Trancepotato Жыл бұрын
Yea and it's easily the worst of the 3 which makes sense since it's cheap
@abymathew295
@abymathew295 Жыл бұрын
MT10 is an even better proposition, only if you can stand its design.
@mpmagnussen
@mpmagnussen Жыл бұрын
To add to this, you might as well be testing a tuono x with headlights against these two to make it a fair fight. I'm biased as I own 2 aprilias but the bmw is a soulless computer and the ducati is unattainable to most. Weird comparisons. The aprilia belongs with the mt10 and triumph speed
@ducedevlstear2471
@ducedevlstear2471 Жыл бұрын
​@@mpmagnussento add to you, Ducati has become a poser brand. Kind off different option to HD. I also have Gen.2 RSV Factory.
@fqeagles21
@fqeagles21 Жыл бұрын
@@ducedevlstear2471Ducati poser brand? Not anymore
@ncjsgrki
@ncjsgrki Жыл бұрын
For the price of the SFV4SP you can buy a Tuono V4 Factory, carbon wheels, 520 chain/sprockets, Cordona quickshifter, best Ohlin money can buy, best Brembo money can buy, full exhaust, flash/tune and still have couple of grand left.
@jbb3675
@jbb3675 Жыл бұрын
Haha, couple grand left for fuel... I get about 140kms for every 16L of mostly city riding... It's pretty awful but it's so much fun that I don't mind.
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist Жыл бұрын
Change Rear Sprocket to 44 tooth as top speed is not necessary.
@JoeShep71
@JoeShep71 Жыл бұрын
And still not have a sfv4sp 🤣
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist Жыл бұрын
@@JoeShep71 Yeah I've got 2 Tuono's, '14 APRC for Track Days & '21 RR for Touring & Drag Racing. We have 5 Tuono's in the Family, plenty of vids on my channel.
@kasztan2008
@kasztan2008 Жыл бұрын
Says everything you need to know. Aprilia is the best overall package. But if money is not an issue than go ahead and buy ducati.
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 Жыл бұрын
You guys lost the piece of paper with the lap times scribbled on? SIck of hearing these reviews with no concrete numbers. Are you not ALLOWED to reveal which of these bikes is quickest on track? Is that against what certain manufacturers allow? How about giving us some numbers: braking distances, 1/4 mile times, 1/2 mile times. Ive seen plenty of reviews where the Tuono is the fastest on track despite being heavier and down on power.
@MrRiftman
@MrRiftman 6 ай бұрын
I've got a non-Factory Tuono V4 and even without the additional goodies, it is a roaring good time. 175hp in a 460hp for $16k with a pretty solid electronics suite is worth it in my mind. Gas mileage is ass, I won't deny, so commuting isn't the greatest, but the overall experience makes up for it
@mortaljorma69
@mortaljorma69 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that Aprilia has most bang for the buck and my pick too.
@GiovanniMazzeo-r1n
@GiovanniMazzeo-r1n 3 ай бұрын
@@mortaljorma69 I agree 💯👍
@motosagela
@motosagela Жыл бұрын
I just got the M1000R and I have an SFV4S. The ECU flash really helps the BMW, as it did the SF.
@thinkdunson
@thinkdunson Жыл бұрын
is the Speed Triple 1200 RR not a contender? (or RS if you don't consider the RR enough of a naked bike)
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial Жыл бұрын
Problem is the bikes are so heavily castrated out of the box due to euro and USA laws. The m1000r in particular has a massive dip in mid range especially in 2nd gear. A remap from brentune gains 40-50hp in midrange which stops a lot of the issues you are seeing on track. Appreciate you have to review them ‘out of the box’. But a small amount of time and a little money transforms the bike. Makes it run richer, therefore cooler and the gains are immense all round (also kills the horrible high cold idle which is there to simply heat the cat as fast as possible).
@Jrstrdr
@Jrstrdr Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Whenever watching reviews I think of which mod can resolve the reported negative haha
@theonlyredspecial
@theonlyredspecial Жыл бұрын
@@Jrstrdr you could argue a lot of people will never mod their bikes but I would say people buying hyper naked bikes and flagship sports bikes will not leave them Stock most of the time. This is the market people will spend extra money with a full system and/or stage 1 remap. It kinda makes basic ‘out of crate’ reviews like this almost redundant.
@juliuscarlopoblete2092
@juliuscarlopoblete2092 Жыл бұрын
@@theonlyredspecial well said, tuning unleashes the true behavior and attitude of the bike.. plus the SFV4 is the nosier of the 3 bikes..
@occrash5616
@occrash5616 Жыл бұрын
@@juliuscarlopoblete2092 SFV4 can be tuned too. The OFT tune for the Streetfighter is a gigantic leap in power and smoothness. Imagine that for a second.
@leonardomoschetti2148
@leonardomoschetti2148 Жыл бұрын
In Europa non c e il problema della 2 marcia... e ha 210cv, quindi presumo sia una restrizione per USA
@clutchfreak13
@clutchfreak13 Жыл бұрын
In the end, Tuono costs 20k and for everyday rider is also complete overkill. And one more thing, there is no better sounding bike out there!
@sebg2086
@sebg2086 7 ай бұрын
its so ugly
@whitegoodman7465
@whitegoodman7465 7 ай бұрын
Tuono looks like a 4k bike, ugly af.
@highvaluetarget8162
@highvaluetarget8162 27 күн бұрын
I wish they would compare a reg V4 and S1kr against the Tuono.
@bahagen
@bahagen Жыл бұрын
LOVE my 22 Tuono V4 Factory 😜
@Alt01971
@Alt01971 9 ай бұрын
I love my 22 Tuono V4 Factory too 🤗 Great regards from Germany
@alangolightly9850
@alangolightly9850 11 күн бұрын
Me too
@jpad470
@jpad470 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2023 Tuono 1100 Factory. Only mod thus far is a tail tidy. I will upgrade the wheels to forged or Carbon at some point to help the flickablility, but I am very happy with the bike. 2,600 miles in 2 1/2 months of ownership including some twisty mountain roads and will be on a track next November. Lots of options out there but I am happy with my choice given the mix of street and occasionaly track days i will be doing on this. The sound is awesome and the midrange torque is awesome.
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist Жыл бұрын
go 44 tooth rear sprocket as well.
@siegfriedz8211
@siegfriedz8211 Жыл бұрын
Same bike same year here. Do you also have huge fuel consumption ? I mean i am always arround 12/13L per 100km ... My friend riding with me with his 1290 Sdr is arround 6/7L while he is faster than me 😂😢
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist Жыл бұрын
@@siegfriedz8211 Yeah, my brother rides a Speedy 1050 RS and I use 25% more fuel. I don't care cause we swap bikes and go half's on fuel when we go away riding the snowy's for a week at a time.
@siegfriedz8211
@siegfriedz8211 Жыл бұрын
@@DukeOfTwist sûre. I've lot of ofthers feedback with huge fuel consumption too. I gess it is the most hungry naked out there 😅
@jpad470
@jpad470 Жыл бұрын
Yes Mine drinks the gas!@@siegfriedz8211
@alanjcravophotography4149
@alanjcravophotography4149 Жыл бұрын
I did ride them all, however I have felt more connected with the triumph speed triple 1200 RS and I love it. Plenty power and enough in the real world
@dennispreszler3528
@dennispreszler3528 Жыл бұрын
The 2022 SFV4SP was my first Ducati. It practically rides itself it is so good.
@helgejohan3604
@helgejohan3604 Жыл бұрын
S1000r are more easy to drive✊🔥🔥
@moglyz9911
@moglyz9911 9 ай бұрын
@@helgejohan3604 no
@bubin689
@bubin689 Жыл бұрын
I don't think it's apples to apples comparison for the price of the Ducati I can buy RSV4RR and Tuono V4 Factory.
@bigandyp3620
@bigandyp3620 Жыл бұрын
Well it makes perfect sense that a bike that cost almost double the Aprillia would beat it! It’s rather sad you left out the prices of the top two bikes because the majority of people can not afford them!
@M1000Rdemon
@M1000Rdemon Жыл бұрын
I have the non comp model bmw, it was $22k otd.
@M1000R_rider
@M1000R_rider 10 ай бұрын
My M1000R was $30,461 for the competition OTD no payments
@Paulthenutter34
@Paulthenutter34 Жыл бұрын
Had a '22 Tuono, don't rate it highly at all. The clutch rattled, it got hot, I got engine lights every second ride, the ergonomics were compromised, it vibrated when cruising to/from fun rides... It took a Gabro tune for it to feel a bit better but never good. Traded it on a BMW S1000R. The BMW was miles better in every way, except sound. Standard the electronics were more refined, it handled better, with a shorty pipe it screamed in Dynamic Pro and burbled on the overrun... It was fast but not playful. Traded it on a '22 MT10SP. Now the Yamaha may not have the most power, or the handling of the BMW but it's a brilliant blend between the Tuono and BMW characters. Plus, it's a hooligan in character... The Ducati... I wouldn't buy one purely because it doesn't have cruise control! I've had mountain bike crashes which have wrecked ligaments in my right wrist. I can't ride any bike for extended periods without CC. Until Ducati decide to fit CC to any of their sportier bikes, Streetfighter V2, V4, Monster SP, it doesn't matter, I won't buy one.
@Joshua-le1vn
@Joshua-le1vn Жыл бұрын
Well said, agreed.
@jbb3675
@jbb3675 Жыл бұрын
So, you went from the prettiest bike to the ugliest bike... That's an odd transition. But, hey, to each their own.
@Love4boost
@Love4boost Жыл бұрын
Should’ve included the Super Duke since it’s the only dedicated naked bike in the class and is very track capable. It may come last but it’s an honorable mention and it’s in the same price bracket as the Aprilia so at least it would be semi affordable vs not so affordable
@jbb3675
@jbb3675 Жыл бұрын
You clearly missed the first episode of this series... They had the Super Duke R and the MT-10SP against the Tuono, but they just couldn't compete.
@iversonfelimon521
@iversonfelimon521 Жыл бұрын
Zh2
@hossman8499
@hossman8499 10 ай бұрын
@@jbb3675 The tuono is just a RSV4 with slightly less fairings. It isnt a naked bike. The Super Duke is built from the ground up as a naked bike.
@kmfiz
@kmfiz 10 ай бұрын
Super Duke R all the way. Add in the $$ you’ll save for the upgrades and you can really unlock the Beast.
@orionmobile6545
@orionmobile6545 10 ай бұрын
Mt10 is way fun and reliable
@bbb11293
@bbb11293 Жыл бұрын
Aprilia all day long ❤❤ the soundtrack alone is magical.
@GiovanniMazzeo-r1n
@GiovanniMazzeo-r1n 4 ай бұрын
i agree i love my Aprilia Tuono v4 1100rr(2022)!👍😊
@AlexDahlZ
@AlexDahlZ Жыл бұрын
I love my M1000R, it's such an insane bike yet so docile during commuting and low rpm/speed.
@blakebiggs1065
@blakebiggs1065 Жыл бұрын
All 3 of these bikes need an ECU flash and tune with filter and aribox mods and aftermarket exhaust. The flat spots and other quibbles mostly disappear.
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 Жыл бұрын
Nice review. Thank you. No mention of the additional heat the Ducati engine makes? Surely that’s a negative. Or have they improved this?
@tomtraynor5384
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
I believe it has It two-cylinder deactivation at idle/stop lights. Dunno if that is a more recent “fix.”
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 Жыл бұрын
@@tomtraynor5384 It would help however if you turn off a hot stove it still generates heat and I’m not sure if you’d notice any heat reduction. As it’s mainly to improve fuel economy. Haven’t ridden one yet however all my previous and current Ducati’s make too much heat to be properly enjoyed on a hot day.
@user-gg7pr3wu7r
@user-gg7pr3wu7r Жыл бұрын
Heat not noticeable,much worse on my st4s.
@Paulfarmer-en4vh
@Paulfarmer-en4vh Жыл бұрын
In some places ie the UK you can buy 2 aprillia,' s fof one of the others, nuff said.
@seasickdave
@seasickdave 11 ай бұрын
Quite simply - they wern't ALLOWED to!.
@jaredmotopnw
@jaredmotopnw 10 ай бұрын
Surprised the Speed Triple wasn’t a contender.
@bikee4
@bikee4 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, are not these street versions of track bikes? Why is this a "Track" test?
@user-gg7pr3wu7r
@user-gg7pr3wu7r Жыл бұрын
The sfsp2 is a road legal track bike
@highvaluetarget8162
@highvaluetarget8162 27 күн бұрын
They tested them on the track and street. 2nd half of the video was the street portion. Might want to check it out...pretty good.
@johnto2723
@johnto2723 10 ай бұрын
I doubt the heat from the engine on the SFV4SP2 has ever been brought up but I know if you’re lugging around in low speeds, splitting traffic in LA and eventually stop at a light the heat from the engine after the fan kicks on is brutal. It’s why I never got it and chose the M1000R. It’s tuned to remove the flat spot and the really loud cold start so I love it.
@williamonthewestside
@williamonthewestside Жыл бұрын
Top level commentary and review. I really appreciate each of your articulation of each bike.
@rolandotto8336
@rolandotto8336 Жыл бұрын
Don‘t need to test the SP2 against the other bikes, just the „normal“ V4S will lead to the same result at a much more competative price. A lot of the SP2s extras are „nice to have“ - but do not create in my opinion a big performance advantage to the V4S.
@redrider0151
@redrider0151 Жыл бұрын
Hate to disagree....but carbon wheels and an entirely difference suspension (the suspension on the SP is TOTALLY different than the V4S) is a LOT of difference and not just "nice to have"....they are major upgrades...
@user-gg7pr3wu7r
@user-gg7pr3wu7r Жыл бұрын
Sp2 has the panigale folks and different rear geometry.better brakes and carbon fiber wheels.
@mickeyroberts77777
@mickeyroberts77777 Жыл бұрын
Great job guys!
@lordgibbness
@lordgibbness Жыл бұрын
I only ride my supernakeds on the road, and after testing them all i chose the s1000r sport at the best all rounder. After a remap and full exhaust, it's a great bike. I couldn't get the v4 sound out of my head though, so also ended up buying a Tuono v4 factory with race pipe. Both great bikes with different strengths and weaknesses. The bmw could do with an ohlins steering damper. The Aprilia needs an rcs17 corsa corta master to sort the soft brake feel. I've also downgeared both bikes (+2r on the tuono, and -1f on the bmw) to make the most of their engines. The M wasn't announced when i bought them, but not sure you can use more than 175hp on the road anyway. The Ducati was very nice, but i felt the speeds had to be higher to feel the bike, and the engine didn't sound as nice as the Aprilia.
@frank19690
@frank19690 Жыл бұрын
One thing never talked about in the naked comparison. Not a major one but by the fact that those high end naked bikes with obviously a hyper sport nature, wind protection becomes something that should be observe. I own the aprilia factory and put the puig long wind bulb on it and when your at high speed when your down on the bike it makes a real difference and i think that such powerfull bikes like the ducati with completely zero wind protection just makes no sens.. even for the hyghway ride, ask any owner and it is really a pain in the ass to be always in the wind tornado with your head going like a bubble head toy.. they keep pushing power but absolutely nothing for the wind protection,
@occrash5616
@occrash5616 Жыл бұрын
Not really a naked anymore then, is it?
@frank19690
@frank19690 Жыл бұрын
@@occrash5616 yes a neked, means at start, no fairing.. it is naked.. but the naked at start did not have either a superbike performance...they had mid engine for road fun ( and all around sunday bike with good road handling.. now with that power available.. speed and acceleration is definitely the new nature of the bike.. but without having complete full fairing like a real sportbike, with that much power, they could easily developp and upper fairing to protect you fron the high speed wind.. isn't what the engine is made for? And even on a normal highway ride, wind protection is really appreciated..🤗🤗
@rickeco4tango33
@rickeco4tango33 11 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought the Tuono is the best value over all… this is coming from a Panigale V4s and Diavel owner!! I thought the SF didn’t have enough wind protection for the engine power!! Already owning a naked power cruiser I went for a full Super Bike!! I do prefer the Tuono to the RSV4!! As for the Bmw I just don’t like inline4 engines the bmw feels like a premium Zx10 or Gsxr 1k!!
@ravikr1783
@ravikr1783 9 ай бұрын
Whr is brutale 1000 rs and zh2 ?
@ganuvien
@ganuvien Жыл бұрын
If I had the money I'd go with the Streetfighter, it's such a gorgeous bike too.
@MrMikegl
@MrMikegl 9 ай бұрын
How much to service them, how is the reliability, how durable will they still be going strong with 50k on the clock ?
@QuackLoud
@QuackLoud Жыл бұрын
It's always amazing listening to Riders at this level. You guys notice so much more and ride so much closer to a bike's capacity that lesser humans (Me) don't notice. Thanks for a great review.
@nickrider5220
@nickrider5220 Жыл бұрын
Shame US emissions laws muck up the BMW'S power delivery , it's not like that in Europe...or most other countries ☹
@kwakithailand
@kwakithailand Жыл бұрын
Them tree huggers make in the EUDSSR our life miserable as well 😢
@Right-Handed_Neutrino
@Right-Handed_Neutrino 8 ай бұрын
So I got a question regarding the Aprilia. The TSV4 Factory has been my dream bike. I'm about tonturn 38 and it's time for me to upgrade from my 2014 ZX-6R ABS, which I absolutely love, but I want something with less aggressive riding position. Would swapping out the bars help the riding position any? Is it the bars, seat, pegs, tank or a combination of the? ThebAprilia has everything I want in a bike; Cruise Control, premium suspension, that perfect V4 sound, power, great looks, etc.. I think it even has Bluetooth for phone connectivity I think. The only concern I have is the riding position. I'm 5'9 & 180lbs.
@alexanderhopkins2807
@alexanderhopkins2807 6 ай бұрын
I had to buy a module to get Bluetooth connectivity. I have the non factory version with higher bar risers as standard but I swapped them for the factory ones to get the factory riding position which I prefer. I’m super tall though at 5’7” 😊
@helgejohan3604
@helgejohan3604 Жыл бұрын
I take Tuono v4 sounds best and a loot cheaper ✊🔥🔥
@colin55594
@colin55594 10 ай бұрын
Was gonna get the ducati but went with tuono instead. I like that its almost not a naked you have a front end to look over. Parts are a lot cheaper and bike sounds way better. Insurance is half the cost and riding position is better in my opintion. Tuono wheelies all day lol. Also the ducati pushed your wrists into the bars more making it less comfortable.
@g.g.8279
@g.g.8279 9 ай бұрын
I owned a Streetfighter and a weakness on the street is the noise. Some big birds were irritated by that… sounds funny, but it’s not when one of them starts to attack you…
@JoeShep71
@JoeShep71 Жыл бұрын
Please eventually test the M with a tune. Man what a different beast !!!
@CWjustindawes
@CWjustindawes Жыл бұрын
BMW is supplying us shortly with a unit that will have the torque map installed. Stay tuned.
@JoeShep71
@JoeShep71 Жыл бұрын
​​@@CWjustindawesthat's better I understand but still not uncorked. Wish I was out west to loan you guys my bike. The difference around 6k is amazing. Prior to tune I could go wot in 2nd around 4k rpms and no lift whatsoever until 10k ( I'm a big boy😂) now just above 6k it starts to climb and pulls so much harder from there. Totally solves the gear selection issue. If you guys get to East TN to road test some stuff. It's available for some seat time. Then again I can see where an aftermarket tune isn't an apples to apples comparison.
@markietje24
@markietje24 8 ай бұрын
This dude is wearing my favorite suit, revit apex 1-piece white/res Unfortunately it wasn't available in my size anymore so I had to go with the red/black option. Still a shame they don't produce these anymore
@hugostos09
@hugostos09 Жыл бұрын
I wish you could test the new MV Agusta Rush 1000
@josephperry2229
@josephperry2229 4 ай бұрын
The Tuono has heavy cast wheels vs the carbon fiber of the Ducati and BMW….that will affect flickabikity and braking. That should be considered.
@SS-gs3we
@SS-gs3we 8 ай бұрын
...and where is the Speed Triple?
@pyrusmasterdan1
@pyrusmasterdan1 11 ай бұрын
thanks for what you’ve done for us and everything you put into the video
@picardjulien5389
@picardjulien5389 Жыл бұрын
Please Someone Can translate thé results please for me. Im french and dont understand all
@JohnDoe-dp4kx
@JohnDoe-dp4kx Жыл бұрын
I own the RR and just love this bike! Good value for the money! Does not heat that much unlike the 2 Italians (I don't know about the BMW).
@Mrgibbo1974
@Mrgibbo1974 Жыл бұрын
Too many comments to check but do these guys realise that the M1000R throttle response can be programmed 1/1 through the dash options? Which eliminates flat spots. Well at least it can in the UK. I wonder if the Beemer is smogged to death in the US. 😮
@saisr1
@saisr1 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe the S1000 motor is still known for vibes in the bars all these years later.
@santiagolopez1877
@santiagolopez1877 7 ай бұрын
Is not a s1000 motor Is a motor with 40 horsepower more than this
@stephenmeek3128
@stephenmeek3128 Жыл бұрын
Where can you buy the yellow t shirt your presenter was wearing?
@italyguy08
@italyguy08 Жыл бұрын
Rode the streetfighter on track and the stability of the chassis while leaned over and the brakes...god lord the breaks are awesome! Wish I had more time on it but it was just for one session. I also rode the Aprilia on the street for around 6 hrs and honestly my MT09SP feels more fun, didn't really enjoy how slow the turn in felt, the power is nice although again unless going triple digits didn't feel much crazier then the MT09SP. The seat and riding position was more comfortable for me compared to the Yamaha which was not what I was expecting! Going to test ride a Super Duke at the end of the month....so excited! These hyper nakeds are a dream come true.
@volodymyrshoniia2424
@volodymyrshoniia2424 Жыл бұрын
Be ready for a disappointment with the super duke 😂
@tomtraynor5384
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 44-Teeth recently picks Supeduke over all naked for street grins. Super-accesible and fun street power. Ride them all and pick YOUR bike.
@volodymyrshoniia2424
@volodymyrshoniia2424 Жыл бұрын
@@tomtraynor5384 that and other tests are exactly the reason why I had high hopes for sdr before riding one, I thought it would be the most fun since it's a ground up naked and not a superbike turned naked, still my 690 SMC r is more bueno, some say 890 r is more bueno than sdr. The whole experience was dominated by that tractor torque engine that sounded awful and was pointless to rev out, all it had was big TORQUE and nice low speed balance/handling, the chassis was just struggling to contain that engine. The chassis, suspension (it was an Evo version, maybe fiddling with modes and settings would help, had plush ride quality but zero feel/feedback), brakes, engine, electronics, switchgear, or really anything on that bike isn't even in the same class as the tuono or the streetfighter. It is a very crude instrument, good if you want torque and wheelies, I suppose, somebody likes that, for my taste there was too much instant torque available, nothing to do with it, and no point in revving it out, not really any point outside of brap power wheelies which I'm not into. Anyway I decided to be a comfortable old man and switched to v4 pikes peak from the tuono after seriously considering and trying sfv4s (which I still would pick as a fun bike, or maybe even go down to V2 because v4 is way too fast for the road) and a bunch of other stuff. Sadly my superduke impressions were the same as everyone I personally know who has tried it. Most say 890 is actually great unlike the 1290, still haven't tried that, 790 was a crapshoot.
@tomtraynor5384
@tomtraynor5384 Жыл бұрын
@@volodymyrshoniia2424 I am also on a PP-from a Superduke GT. I hear ya-but engines are more alike then different. Ducati V4 even sounds more like a twin (Tuono-owned one-sound still bests all). Both tap out around 10,500 RPMs and rarely need to bother with anything over 8000 rpm’s in normal street riding (No-I RIDE them-had my PP up to 142 mph last weekend). Torque did work. I still give the edge to the KTM GT in motor response and outright torque. But that’s all. PP better bike everywhere else-as it should be the price. Also-Superduke has Brembo Stylemos just as Ducati. Must be the pads?
@volodymyrshoniia2424
@volodymyrshoniia2424 Жыл бұрын
@@tomtraynor5384 must be the difference in pads and the master cylinder, maybe electronics/fluid/lines 🤷‍♂️ Both tuono v4 and gran Turismo v4 have a good amount of torque accessible almost anywhere and are exciting to rev out because they build power, 1290 is not, also too viby, desmosedici stradale is a bit too top endy and flat/flacid at the bottom and in the midrange compared to others. I'd take the older Ducati V2s from multis over the superduke engine. Multi v4 does feel held back, especially after seeing what the similar engine is capable of in the streetfighter application, although multi has a much more usable powerband with more torque and power where it matters. It's better with the akra system, maybe bhp UK system with their tune or brentune would be more exciting with the higher redline. I did consider SDGT when I got the tuono, but they haven't brought the newer version to the states at that point.
@philipparana9225
@philipparana9225 Жыл бұрын
Bmw needs a tune, totally muted for emissions.
@pbofan
@pbofan Жыл бұрын
I’m surprised to hear that the M1000R’s engine had a midrange flat spot…the Shift Cam, newly introduced to the S1000R with this M model, should have largely smoothed that out.
@RikkyTang
@RikkyTang Жыл бұрын
This is a problem with the USA's emission and noise laws - I've ridden an M1000R in the UK and I can tell you the midrange is really strong! It's a shame - I used to watch USA bike reviews a lot but now in many cases the stock power outputs are lower than the Euro models. and the bikes don't ride the same way.
@SuperHodge08
@SuperHodge08 4 ай бұрын
The reason there is a flat spot on the BMW is because emissions testing takes place at 7k rpms. It's "flat" by design so the bike can pass emissions.
@jpad470
@jpad470 Жыл бұрын
Also seems like they should have picked the R version of the Ducati - I believe it has same performance as the SP (?) just less carbon bits but about $28K but I guess they were doing top shelf for this test.
@joeridestrijcker445
@joeridestrijcker445 Жыл бұрын
you can buy a Streetfighter R?
@jpad470
@jpad470 Жыл бұрын
Yes, comes with ohlin suspension and is basically the same bike as in this review witough the addtional add ons/carbon bits@@joeridestrijcker445
@detro3run
@detro3run 5 ай бұрын
Elephant in the room, the Aprilia doesn't have Carbon wheels. Put some carbon wheels on it and see how much better it performs. They are around $4k.
@weisswurstfruhstuck8523
@weisswurstfruhstuck8523 Жыл бұрын
Looks and sound Aprilia. BMW for good value as a normal s1000r but the M is somehow just silly. Well and Ducati somehow for me always tooo expensive and never liked their look as much that I would pay for that kinda price.
@AntonioOliveira-mz5co
@AntonioOliveira-mz5co 16 күн бұрын
STREETFIGHTER V4S its the best super naked money can buy.. hands down
@megatonfirst
@megatonfirst Жыл бұрын
No cruise control on the Ducati is why I bought the BMW. But I have no regrets the BMW is the perfect bike for me especially after the tune
@dennispreszler3528
@dennispreszler3528 Жыл бұрын
You should have tried the Duc. Yeah, cruise control is a miss, but I'll sacrifice that for a significantly better and MUCH more comfortable (and better looking) bike.
@Trancepotato
@Trancepotato Жыл бұрын
That's why I just bought the Diavel V4. Wanted the cruise control
@JoeShep71
@JoeShep71 Жыл бұрын
It is so much better after tune. Even the shifting is so much better !!! Love mine. Enjoy it !!
@lg740xx
@lg740xx Жыл бұрын
Enjoying my ‘23 tuono - no issues, including long red lights
@occrash5616
@occrash5616 Жыл бұрын
Interesting comment, because I daily ride the SFV4 and I didn't have any mentionable heat issues this summer, including the long red lights. Did you ride one yourself or are you quoting hearsay?
@davutturk
@davutturk Жыл бұрын
The only naked spirit is on the BMW, Aprilia and Ducati more like supersport, i still go for a MV Agusta Brutale 1000 RR for hyper naked.
@tonyciriello6872
@tonyciriello6872 Жыл бұрын
Why haven't any of the inline four bikes besides Yamaha used the 90 degree crank set up? Seems like the mid-range flatness you spoke of would be solved on the BMW. Would that put the BMW on par with the Ducati? Then there is that sound.
@RaceWithTime
@RaceWithTime Жыл бұрын
The mid-range flat spot on the BMW has nothing to do with the engine configuration or firing order, it’s entirely to do with US noise regulations. A 180deg crank inline 4 can make just as much midrange torque as any other engine configuration of similar displacement.
@sup3rs0p0
@sup3rs0p0 Жыл бұрын
I can tell you there is no flat spot.. yes the bike is sleeping under 4000rpm ... starts at 6000rpm you feel its awake and at 9000rpm 1 ticket to hell plz..and it can rev up to 14600rpm, so the reviews in europe are much different
@RaceWithTime
@RaceWithTime Жыл бұрын
@@sup3rs0p0 yeah Euro spec S/M1000s are just as strong (or maybe stronger) in the mid range as the 1100cc “cheater” bikes from Aprilia and Ducati
@rafikshahnazarian7632
@rafikshahnazarian7632 Жыл бұрын
Great videos. Great bikes. We love those bikes here too in London.👍
@johnlgibson
@johnlgibson Жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Thank you.
@Motosadik
@Motosadik Жыл бұрын
Where is Triumph Speed Triple RR?
@JohnDoe-dp4kx
@JohnDoe-dp4kx Жыл бұрын
I own the RR and just love this bike! Good value for the money! Does not heat that much unlike the 2 Italians (I don't know about the BMW).
@bradfuller1667
@bradfuller1667 Жыл бұрын
Considered a Superbike not a hypernaked
@Mcanozcelik
@Mcanozcelik Жыл бұрын
You guys sound like ducati fans no offense this bike is 38 grand right and it was not fair to the aprilia at all
@LKESBO
@LKESBO 6 ай бұрын
Sp and v4s are 99 percent identical the same only wight saving
@eddalexander5954
@eddalexander5954 9 ай бұрын
A lot of people will not like the tuono because they can’t get the tuono to its operating level. The faster you ride that bike the better it gets and more flickable. The bike is like a bull , you need to ride it hard and it does everything easy .
@bigcheese781
@bigcheese781 Жыл бұрын
The Italians will set a DTC and then do a crank-no-start in true Italian fashion.🤪
@pravinmurthy
@pravinmurthy Жыл бұрын
Isnt this the most impractical segment of all!.. Naked Hypersports bikes with absolutely no wind protection!!..
@Ivan-cz1ql
@Ivan-cz1ql 4 ай бұрын
I own the Aprilia and I've driven the Ducati and I can't agree with the statement that the Aprilia has less space to move on the seat. It is exactly the other way around. Also, the Ducati is upright yes but does not possess the attack position simultaneously. These two just do not come together. My opinion
@kleinbottled79
@kleinbottled79 Жыл бұрын
Ive only ridden the touring version of the BMW 1000, but the vibrations were annoying on that bike too. Big turn off for me.
@ronhu6035
@ronhu6035 Жыл бұрын
I like your reporting on the nakeds. It would be cool to revisit this with BMW and Aprilia having a tuned map on them. Bren Tunning (BTmoto?) is most popular for BMW, 35% is my guess on the Aprilia vs. Gabro Racing (T800 UpMap). I have forged rims on my '23 moved over from my '21. The lighter wheels do help a lot. I also use a -2 on the Steering damping. (A modes) (M) I is pretty low. Just enough that if and only if a tank slapper ever happens, it will be firm enough to slow that down.
@08poochie08
@08poochie08 8 ай бұрын
LOVE MY ZH2!
@Supernova12034
@Supernova12034 11 ай бұрын
The ducati despite costing a fortune, doesnt have cruise control. I will also bet cash money it will cook you anywhere near a traffic light. And probably doesnt even have a fuel gauge.
@Husabuse
@Husabuse Жыл бұрын
And the Superduke is just so much more fun…
@tomserbaducci8559
@tomserbaducci8559 Жыл бұрын
💯-I’m a Buell guy, but I rode a SD and if I had the bread, I would buy one without hesitation
@dariocp87
@dariocp87 9 ай бұрын
Why they don’t make bikes like that but with bodywork?? Don’t get me wrong, sports bikes are a pain in the ass once you have like half an hour riding them. Naked bikes are the best of both worlds. Sporty and more comfortable than a sports bike. Put some bodywork for wind protection and that’s it! 😊
@senor-fa-von-dia
@senor-fa-von-dia Жыл бұрын
Tuono V4 1100 FACTORY all day long...BMW Zzzzzzz Ducati $$$$
@ChokolateSushi23
@ChokolateSushi23 Жыл бұрын
The flat spot on the s/m1000s is horrible. I would not recommend the bike if you’re going to keep it stock/un-tuned. It feels like my 600 did or worse, no exaggeration. I can’t wait to get a reflash
@abymathew295
@abymathew295 Жыл бұрын
What's more fun than Riding Naked..😆
@juricuozzo1003
@juricuozzo1003 Жыл бұрын
Best bike on the road(no track) it’s a speed triple 1200…period
@FELiPES101
@FELiPES101 8 ай бұрын
call me crazy but isnt a naked bike supposed to be more street focussed....but then these are track focussed versions of a bike that is street focussed...so why not just buy the supersport if you are tracking
@jondoe1968
@jondoe1968 2 күн бұрын
Aprilia is king 👑
@notsureonthisusername3319
@notsureonthisusername3319 Жыл бұрын
Never bought the ducati because its missing cruise control. 👎
@DezertBeagle
@DezertBeagle Жыл бұрын
These prices got me ready for the economy to completely collapse. Or I'll just wait for next year's review of the $65k hypernaked shout-out
@Rocketboy-qg6ts
@Rocketboy-qg6ts Жыл бұрын
BMW flat spot…..because of USA emission regs? Same issue as when they launched the S1000rr
@freebehindbars8654
@freebehindbars8654 Жыл бұрын
If you have money to buy a bike, you have it to bypass any of the regulations while making it better than better.
@markellison4875
@markellison4875 4 ай бұрын
Horses for courses really. If money wasn't an issue, who wouldn't buy the best out there!! Like other comments on here the Aprilia is good enough for most but, not me...Ducati all the way.
@dj8six
@dj8six 8 ай бұрын
This review seems to have bias toward Ducati, The Tuono is easily the winner along with even being the version with extra options its still under 20k and if you happen to live in a warmer area like myself the Ducati is impossible to ride in town or even on the freeway. Horrible experience with the heat coming from the Duc
@kenhodgdon7015
@kenhodgdon7015 Жыл бұрын
the Ducati should win for 38 thousand + .Motorcycle prices are ridiculous these days.
@ryanGnVtown
@ryanGnVtown 10 ай бұрын
Where's the Super Duke evo!?
@jeffy3964
@jeffy3964 Жыл бұрын
Totally disagree, I think before you even started filming it was going to be the Ducati, the M1000R is the best bike on the market by far, I’ve ridden both bikes and BMW wins it hands down
@alanyesilipek7959
@alanyesilipek7959 Жыл бұрын
Mehhhh Im happy with my 2018 MT09 . ZH2 would be nice mind you.
@TIMHARTTT
@TIMHARTTT 8 ай бұрын
I would not buy Aprilia even if it was 5k cheaper, absolute nightmare when it comes to reliability, at least with Ducati the issues is much easier to fix.
@R0bstez
@R0bstez Жыл бұрын
One bike is missing in this test; Superduke RR
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ Жыл бұрын
No H2R?
@moglyz9911
@moglyz9911 9 ай бұрын
ducati all day
@johnadams3038
@johnadams3038 Жыл бұрын
The Aprilia has same Stylema brakes as the Ducati so how come they are different? Brembo Stylema should at least as good as the ones on the BMW
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 Жыл бұрын
Why? The nissin brakes may be japanese but they are absolutely top spec. I dont get why people consider Nissin brakes to be inferior to brembo. Brembo has a range of Brakes, as does Nissin. You just tend to see the cheaper variants of Nissin brakes more often than the cheaper brembo ones. Besides, brake feel and power can also come from the master cylinder, tyres, suspension, wheel mass.... loads of different reasons why two identical calipers can perform differently.
@MahkcebPT
@MahkcebPT Жыл бұрын
The Tuono doesn´t have stylema, they are M50. And the SFSP2 as the stylema R best brakes on the market.
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist Жыл бұрын
@@MahkcebPT Correct on the Aprilia's M50, I had Stylema's on 890 Duke R & you can notice the difference.
@JoeShep71
@JoeShep71 Жыл бұрын
​@@DukeOfTwist890 r are truly amazing. But these nissins are right there ! I was shocked
@DukeOfTwist
@DukeOfTwist Жыл бұрын
@@JoeShep71 Yeah my sister inlaw has both a 15 & 17 S1000R and the brakes are on par with M50's on my '21 Tuono RR where as my Brothers '19 Speed Triple 1050RS are dooey.
@matthewerbe4950
@matthewerbe4950 Жыл бұрын
We Tested the BEST Naked Bikes !Ducati! Money Can Buy!
@gary321
@gary321 23 күн бұрын
Maybe on track but as a road bike where's the ktm
@elarr8733
@elarr8733 Жыл бұрын
So much bodywork on naked bikes now. It's like they "identify" as naked.
@blazingwheels7293
@blazingwheels7293 Жыл бұрын
Why superduke is out of the picture???
@CWjustindawes
@CWjustindawes Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4uroHVmosRoe6Msi=mApv45jgChn5q8k3
@MotoRiderGR
@MotoRiderGR 2 ай бұрын
KTM SUPER DUKE R is not one of the best? You guys in Cycle World why didn't choose KTM? Tell us...
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