Cyclone Rescue Jacket 2.0 (RevolutionRace) - Review & Bad Weather Performance [2021]

[@Legionnaire7777]

It's good that the jacket doesn't retain heat as this is a jacket for people being active, hiking,walking, skiing, mountain rescue etc. Also the recco tracker is a great extra and I agree with you on the cuffs I think elasticated cuffs would of been better.

[@adennis200]

this jacket is exactly what ive been looking for for my commute and my tours. In germany it rains quite regularly and it can be quite windy. especially now with the cold wind on my bike, its important to have a good jacket.

[@metalbearuk]

Got one of these in their recent sale, and am very impressed with the build quality of the jacket for sure, lots of pockets for a change too. Have my doubts as to the 20,000 breathability rating as the jacket is quite heavy, but we will see.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your feedback - and sorry for the somewhat late reply; I am still recovering from my accident (see community posts). The breathability issue I can imagine, due to the current circumstances I cannot go outdoors but maybe I'll revisit the jacket at a later point in time.

[@metalbearuk]

@@Exstaz Their website says 20,000 breathability and 15,000 water.

[@faceinthecrowd5810]

As a skier who already owns many jackets , I just ordered this jacket because of the color. The wind and water proofness matters of course, however as a hard shell I will always have a mid layer and a base layer. If this is not very waterproof as reveiws seem to say I will leave this home that day and wear one of my others. We will see.

[@NLJORDI13]

Do you have an update?

[@faceinthecrowd5810]

@@NLJORDI13 sorry not till February and the northeast ski season is happening.

[@Riitmi]

Nice review. I bought myself the black version of the Cyclone jacket and regrettably water started getting through after roughly 2 hours of walking in moderate to heavy rain.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for the view and comment. What do you consider “moderate” in terms of mm? Would be interesting to know.

[@Riitmi]

I don't recall specifics, but it wasn't a light drizzle and in terms of numbers if I had to throw out a number, probably in the league of 3-5mm.

[@superseacrow9463]

I have one of these and its the worst jacket ive ever bought. RR is a massive marketing ploy like Red Bull. It isnt waterproof and it nearly killed me when I went up Scafell in winter. It only has a DWR coating and as can be seen in your video it wets out very quickly. For the price of that jacket you could buy the Keela Munro which is well tested by mountain rescue and specialist police and army teams.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your comment. I got some awesome Merino of Keela, they make great stuff indeed.

[@macducati2304]

One reviewer on here was in v heavy rain all day and says the same as you.

[@CameraNostalgiaClub]

Great review! The best I've seen on this app! Thanks

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks

[@josephm8292]

In regards to the three negative points; you don't have to pull the ventilation zippers all the way down invalidating your bushcrafting argument. You mentioned it doesn't retain heat, for your example you are wearing a cotton shirt not layers. Yes you are right you need to resemble am onion in Winter maybe then you'll retain heat better. The velcro completely agree with you.

[@thebigco]

I have the trousers and was hiking in heavy rain for 5 hours and got completely soaked. I think they are still quite good value for money but don't compare to the more expensive pro products from the likes of Berghaus.

[@HESA6880]

That’s completely true, jacket is even worse, enough one hour in moderate rain and it’s straight wet from inside. You get what you pay for….

[@matsuymarin]

Thank you for your time and review.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

You are welcome.

[@outdoortrey8776]

Seems like a decent jacket, thanks for sharing this review.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

You are welcome Trey - it indeed is a decent jacket in my experience. Thanks for the comment and the view.

[@Exstaz]

You also have a pocket for a ski pass on the left arm down at the wrist. It also have 20000mm on rain. Seems like this video have a lot of wrong info. As for heat retention it has worked great for me. I have gone skiing with mine a lot and bin out in in temps down to -20 with no issue using a mid layer jacket. As for a helmet under the hood, that is not possible. I have tried it and it was way to tight. Also I do agree about mesh in the vents.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

I'd just like to invite you to take a look at the website of the very manufacturers themselves. As shown there, you get a 15.000mm water column. The 20.000 refers to the breathability in g/m²/24h, not the water resistance, alas the manufacturer. I'd find it rather bizarre if the manufacturers themselves would not know the specifications of their own product. I'd find it even more bizarre to take a screenshot of their very own homepage and then editing the screenshot to display the 15.000mm instead of the presumed 20.000mm. How absurd would that be? What could I possible get out of that? For your opinion on the performance in -20°C: You just mentioned the necessity of a mid layer jacket yourself. I am clearly stating that this jacket alone (!) does not perform as a winter jacket. Nothing else. That said, how much can you say about the heat retention of this jacket if your body heat is actually retained by another product? That is: The very mid-layer jacket you wear underneath. With all due respect, but basically confirming my point (which is: this jacket is not specifically designed for skiing but rather for outdoor activities in general) and at the same time smashing down some statement like "a lot of wrong info in this video" not only comes along way too strong, it does not even make sense in this particular case. To end on a positive note: If the jacket does work for you in combination with other gear - awesome! I am happy if that combo works for you and if you are happy with it too, great. Or not? Thanks for the view and the comment, have a good one! Ralf

[@Exstaz]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft Why do my comment keep getting removed, cause I direct link revolution race website? You write condescending when in fact it clearly say 20000 on water and breathability on the website.

[@crapneck1246]

Have this Jacket too, -20°c without mid layer ? No way ! Think its not a jacket to keep warm...

[@marcpatrick5948]

Thanks for your thoughts. Is there another jacket you would recommend more?

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi Marc - well, that fully depends on what purpose this jacket is supposed to fulfill. Could you specify what you are looking for? Thanks.

[@marcpatrick5948]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft i am looking for a waterproof jacket that keeps the heat better inside. Walking long trips with the dogs through windy rainy areas

[@marcpatrick5948]

Welche Jacken sind denn nun besser geeignet?

[@m_bayer_outdoor]

Sehr gutes Video in einem sehr gut verständlichen Englischmach weiter so 😉.

[@taylorglass4231]

Why does it look like the water is soaking into the jacket?

[@mayclesyrup7348]

Brilliant review, i don't suppose you've had any experience with their Hyper jacket? I've looked at it myself but can't decide as it seems more of a soft shell.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi there - first of all thanks for the comment and the question. Unfortunately I have no experience with the Hyper jacket. Looks to me though as if both models are somewhat identical with exception to the pockets applied as well as the RECCO (which is not part of the Hyper). What would be your field of application? Maybe I can give some recommendation then.

[@richburmond6761]

hmm i was thinking of buying this for a Japan trip, which would be 12 degrees celcius in March. I would wear only a t shirt, or sweater below it. But you say it's a bit cold in this video. Any other jacket you do recommend for this? The armpit zips are important too for me. I had that on a snowboarding jacket and oh my god it's great if you get hot and need to vent to your needs! Instead of zipping the whole front open

[@OldSwords]

I'd be interested in knowing what jackets you would recommend for bushcraft. Thanks!

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hey there, thanks for the comment. Noted it for future videos :)

[@danielsobrino1297]

Hello, what size are you wearing and your height, would you help me choose a size? Thank you

[@MikeBrown-cx2xr]

Can you recommend a good jacket? As An all rounder for dog walking hiking

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi Mike, thanks for the comment. I can, but if you can wait a little longer: I am planning to do a review on another jacket (Jack Wolfskin) I used for the last 2 years and that one definitely is a recommendation. I hope to be able to shoot a video soon, stick around for the upload!

[@MikeBrown-cx2xr]

That’s awesome thanks!

[@joekelly9369]

Arent they usually treated ( water beading and running off ) first thing i noticed , velcro the wind can open ????

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi Joe, thanks for the comment and the questions. The jacket cloth itself is made with dendrimers, more information on that here: www.rudolf.de/en/technology/bionic-finish-eco/ So far the wind did not open the velcro.

[@anka7597]

Thank you for this great review.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

You are very welcome Anne, thanks for your comment :)

[@jamesboub]

thx for this review ! you had only a shirt under the jacket. did you try Cyclone jacket + soft-shell (under) to improve warmth ?

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for the comment and question. The honest answer: No, not really. As mentioned I am testing a product based on the way it is advertised - the manufacturer considers the jacket to be a winter jacket and therefore I personally expect it to perform as that without adding another fleece or so for insulation. Still a decent hiking jacket if you ask me.

[@TPont7089]

Very good and useful videos! Carinthia PRG 2.0 JACKET review please!

[@greenwolf2299]

Dude instead of faulting the jacket for not keeping you warm, i would suggest wearing merino wool or wool layers instead of cotton. That would solve your problem right away. Mesh inside the armpit zips, sux big time, but yeah each to their own

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

As pointed out in the video, this is a review of the jacket and its very own features as such. If a product is advertised as a „winter jacket“, it should perform as such and - as this is a review - will be judged on this very performance. It makes no sense at all to add a mid layer compensating for the jacket during a review as it falsifies the outcome. Which in return is then absolutely useless for the viewer. Imagine this: You look for a review of a small car made by Kia - how much sense would it make if the respective video maker first replaces the engine by a V8 racing engine just so he can tell you that the Kia is a race car? Exactly, none at all. Doesn‘t mean that merino products themselves are great, as you can see in other videos of mine, I am very fond of my merino gear.

[@Mr.P539]

Thank you for the review, I also like the boots @ 6:12 what's the brand and model?

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thank you for our comment and the view, Romeo. I will do a review on them once I am back on track - if you have visited my channel's community tab, you probably have seen that I just had a bad motorcycle accident. For this very reason I now have to focus on the recovery, but I already planned shooting a video talking about different boots I own. If you want, just hit the subscribe button and that bell button so you get a notification once a new upload is published. Thanks!

[@Mr.P539]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft Looking forward to your video again and get well soon.

[@holgeransgar8664]

good review - i have revolutionrace pants and they are really good too.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

True, they are pretty comfy. I also wear RR pants in this video, model Nordwand I guess they were. Thanks for your comment!

[@Petragoesoutdoors]

Danke für das Fazit zu dieser Jacke! Ich habe einige Hosen von dieser Firma und sie sind alle top! Die Jacke scheint mir aber eher eng geschnitten, auch bei den Frauen, und daher nicht so gut für Frauen (ich will es mal vorsichtig ausdrücken) mit etwas breiteren Hüften! Ich zähle auch zu diesen und habe immer Probleme mit solchen Jacken!

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Servus Petra - erstmal danke für den Kommentar! Die Jacke gibts für Männer und Frauen in jeweils unterschiedlichen Schnitten, genau aus den genannten Gründen. Bei den Hosen hab ich noch keine wirklich fundierte Meinung da ich die noch nicht lange genug nutze - aber mir erscheinen die relativ überteuert für das Material. Gut, Beim Köhler oder anderswo zahlste noch mehr, aber das hält dann halt auch. Die Zeit wird sagen was die abkönnen. :)

[@George_outdoors]

Ordered one today

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for commenting - 9 months later now, I am curious: How do you like it?

[@filoofox9934]

Why is this not recommended for bushcrafters? And its recommended for skiing and hiking? Im thinking of buying this jacket as my main jacket so I would wear it basically everywhere.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your comment. Let my try to answer your questions: This particular jacket is designed for sports and sport related activities - which is not really comparable to bushcraft. If I may be so free and use the very original definition of bushcraft, we'd then talk about working with natural materials to create shelters, tools and such. The sturdiness of workwear is different to sporty gear, if that makes sense. But I can recommend this jacket as an allrounder if you are looking for a simply top layer.

[@castellum40]

Pls tell me about your other jackets!

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your comment, Max. Got it noted, more coming up soon 👍🏻

[@jakewilko5830]

Great video 👍👍

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks Jake, appreciate your feedback :)

[@exuberance3973]

Thinking of buying one of these for Ukraine is there anyway I can remove the recco reflector without destroying the water resistant effect? 😅

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Well I got to ask: Is that meant for civilians or as a donation for Ukranian defense forces? Because if it is for the latter, I'd say forget about this jacket - it is no military grade type of gear. I am not sure if removing the RECCO will do any good, cause it is somewhat embedded in the outer layer and inner layer. I assume the latter is not waterproof.

[@exuberance3973]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft it’s for relatives and local civilians fleeing the country. They have mostly had their homes shelled by artillery and have to travel by foot to the Poland border through all types of terrain. Russian Migs and what nots can detect recco reflectors which is why I am worrying lol

[@TomG1991]

Is this warm? Or do you need to go a size up to get a good fleece under?

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi Tom, thanks for the comment and sorry for the somewhat late reply - please note the info on my channel's community tab regarding my accident. The jacket does not retain heat, I must be clear about this. I would definitely work with a decent fleece during the colder months.

[@TomG1991]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft Please don’t apologise, you do a great job. Thank you!

[@FOXSCOUTSurvival]

Sehr schönes Review und sehr authentisch! Danke fürs Vorstellen, interessantes Produkt 🙂

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Danke dir!

[@CmStormKwosr12]

Can you do more gear reviews? Iam really curious what your best waterproof jacket is for the money.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi there, thanks for the comment and sorry for the late reply - please note the infos on my channel's community tab, I had a motorcycle accident and am just back home, still recovering. I will certainly do more reviews once all my booboos are healed - if you want, feel free to subscribe and to click that bell button to get a notification on new uploads. Thanks!

[@CmStormKwosr12]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft thanks for the reply! Have a good recovery! 🙏

[@directorski]

Shame the RR pants in that weather were not waterproof! thanks for the vid, would like one but the jacket range doesn't go beyond 46.9" chest 🙁

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your comment - first of all to the size: Maybe you can email the company about that issue? In my experience they got an open ear for their customers. And about the pants: They are not waxed (yet), still gotta do that :-) Thanks for the view.

[@janiahava7296]

They have cyclone pants too 🙂 I have both the jacket and pants and love them both

[@petrczerny3919]

looks like a good jacket - what other jackets do you use?

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi Petr, thanks for the comment - I can pick that up in future videos, make sure to stick around. :)

[@unktzor]

13:20 must be great video! :D

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Ha, which recommendation did you get? :P

[@unktzor]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft Ah on the side it said 13:20 lenght even though I now see it as 13:19 long. Anyway 1320!!! haha

[@Sign3dInBlo0d]

Have you tried Mont-Bell Versalite 182g 30,000mm water rating 43,000g breathability rating

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your comment - no, I have not heard about that yet. Do you own it? And could you share your opinion? Thanks!

[@Lukas-yn4bw]

Got this one. Good jacket but it will not keep you dry in somewhat mediocre rain. 3/10 as a rain jacket IMO.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Seems to be an issue throughout time, indeed. My review is a bit older and quite frankly the protection from rain is drastically reduced after longer times of use indeed.

[@Crazyoldman84]

Wearing a cotton base layer is why your getting cold. Probably the worst base material you could of chosen. The recco feature could be purchased separately and fixed to clothing you already have. It's not expensive.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Hi there - unfortunately I have to reply to you in the same way I had to reply to similar comments: Your remark is as illogical as it is irrelevant. Let me explain why, yet again: I am testing a jacket to see if it does fulfill the promises made by the manufacturer. If the manufacturer offers this jacket as a "winter jacket", the jacket alone must perform as such - regardless of whether I am wearing cotton, merino or no base layer at all. That is why the base layer as such is irrelevant - a good jacket performs as a good jacket, or it doesn't. But let's be nice yet again and address your remark on base layers for the sake of argument: Everybody knows that merino, for example, performs better than cotton in terms of dispersing moisture and what not - but why would any reasonable person want to falsify the outcome of a product test by adding yet another product which does the actual work? That is so illogical. If you still don't catch my drift: Let's say Nissan promotes the Micra as a "high power racing car". Now you get a Micra, shoot a review and conclude that its top speed is only 170km/h and hence cannot be considered a racing car. Should I comment that you don't know what you are talking about because you decided to use the original engine rather than replacing it with the high-power engine of a Ferrari 812? How much sense would it make to add a remark that your Nissan could have easily gone 340km/h with the Ferrari engine? Exactly, absolutely no sense at all as we would not be reviewing the Nissan anymore, but rather the Ferrari. Thanks for your comment & have a great day!

[@Crazyoldman84]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft if I came across rude it wasn't my intention. Maybe you should of done the review with only the jacket no base layer by your logic. If you buy a ski jacket would you not wear a proper base layer with it? My reason for mentioning the cotton is it would make you cold under any jacket if it's wet from sweat.

[@DKrankiKapitan]

I wore it recently in a heavy rain in Germany and my cotton shirt was wet inside. I was very disappointed with this.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

That is unfortunate to hear. May I ask how many millimeters of rain? Cause to me that sounds more like humidity accumulating in the cotton shirt itself. Spent a fair amount of time outside in heavy rainfall myself and in general stay off cotton in such conditions.

[@DKrankiKapitan]

@@RathwulvenBushcraft 20k mm i ear. So yes, a lot.

[@markrocks692]

Nice jacket but the hood looks enormous. I understand it is helmet compatible but it looks even too big for that purpose as well. Without a helmet on the hood is vast...

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for your comment, Mark - true that, it is quite a huge hood indeed.

[@lascellesthornton1976]

I got the trousers. Not even slightly waterproof.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Haven´t had the chance to extensively test those (I usually go with my Under Armor pants). Thanks for your opinion!

[@rodrev_hiking6757]

I hate velcro at the wrists -.- best is just a zip cord like in the Zpacks vertice . For me the RevRace jacket is too heavy to pack . Also bad experience with so called waterproof AND breathable rainjackets. Any breathable membran jacket will soak through and also the dwr coating wears off . Always have to reapply new waterproofing. -.- I switched to a true rainproof non breathable jackets who does just what its job is : keeping me dry from Rain. Mine for years now is the LightheartGear Sil-Poly rainjacket. 160gramm , full waterproof , never have to reapply DWR and also packable to a tennis ball :D Fxk „breathable“ jackets. They all soak through and weight heavy ass 🦆.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

Thanks for sharing your view on this!

[@LowKickMT]

check northface futurelight gear. its sick, though more expensive.

[@rodrev_hiking6757]

@@LowKickMT i own TNF futurelight Dryzzle. Its a shit jacket. Wets out after 20min . Money waste. Best Rain Jacket for me is the Montbell Versalite or EE Visp when it comes to "breathable" Jackets

[@LowKickMT]

@@rodrev_hiking6757 thats the second time i hear about a futurelight going wet really quick. other reviews say its dry as the sahara. so weird

[@HESA6880]

This jacket is not good at all against the rain. It’s absolutely not waterproof (it doesn’t claim either that it’s waterproof) it’s water repellent and not so good at it either. Even after one hour in moderate rain it gets really wet from inside. Basically you get what you pay for. Should show jacket from inside how “dry” it is. Video is misleading. People should check other videos where jackets from RR are tested in rain and how wet they get from inside.

[@RathwulvenBushcraft]

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