Cylinder Lawnmower cartridge strip down and sharpen

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In this Video i would like to show you how to take your Cylinder Lawnmower cartridge apart, so in this video i will be doing a complete strip down and sharpen and show you how to put it all back together #allett #atco #video
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[@1Mattza]

Very well explained thank you 👍

[@seanlindsay5838]

Congratulations Mick for the Top Content Creation. You managed to do exactly what it said on the tin. 100% Answered all my questions to do with the renovation of a lawnmower cassette. Keep up the good work !

[@themowerman]

No worries.. thanks for watching

[@HomeGaragechannel]

now that was a good sharpening job.

[@martinburgess4814]

Mr Jones brilliant job.Mick you did great job too.Hope all is good at the Micks Mowers aHouse.

[@themowerman]

All good here mate

[@DIYVariety]

Sharp and ready. Nice job riley boy!

[@themowerman]

Thanks 👍

[@sarvdogra]

Really great video... Thank you! The teardown and rebuild really takes the guesswork out for us doing the job at home..

[@themowerman]

Ta... Hope it helps

[@HobbyMotorDK]

Good fix Mick - looks pro

[@topconker2909]

Great vid mate

[@themowerman]

Thanks 👍

[@liljoeii6091]

Thank you for the video See on the next video

[@theveluxhorse1120]

Thanks for recommending this video. It's took me many searches to get the right terminology. Then I still couldn't find it haha. Appreciate it. I inherited the classic 35s from a friend who was taking it to the tip because he couldn't get it started. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I was like "NOOOOO". I admit I'm a noob at this but it was similar to the lawnmower my grandad used, I had to have it. Now all I have to contend with is getting wrong off the missus for turning the garage into a full blown repair shop 😂 Gonna be my pet project for the next few months.

[@themowerman]

Lol that's how it starts . You will soon have 20 mowers lol

[@petefroud5308]

Very nice work there .

[@BensWorkshop]

That is sharp.

[@themowerman]

Ohhh yes mate

[@henrymurawskibigdogrepair]

Now that is sharp nice work mate

[@themowerman]

Thanks 👍

[@brianruane8505]

Phenomenal video...everything I needed to know (and more!!)

[@themowerman]

Your very welcome mate

[@KensSmallEngineRepair]

Nice work. Lots involved to get a cylinder mower just right!

[@themowerman]

Yeah.. but it pays off.. ta for showing an interest mate

[@trevorpringle1480]

Quality

[@billsheehy1660]

Enjoyed that, leant a lot. Thanks

[@themowerman]

Well that's great.. ta for watching

[@themowerman]

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[@RepairingShow]

I own a lawnmower like that, and I've been storing it for this damn hole, and tomorrow I'm going to look for it in the warehouse. Thank you, my friend

[@themowerman]

Your welcome.. let me know how you get on..

[@wrxs1781]

Good video Mick, great re-build and set up.

[@themowerman]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mowerboy7914]

Great video Mick 👍👍👍. Looking forward to seeing the fully finished refurb 👌

[@mowerboy7914]

Of the 17sk I meant

[@travllers6284]

Good job

[@themowerman]

Thanks

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[@miscman10000]

Excellent vid Mick.

[@themowerman]

Why thanks mate

[@ProjectMan]

Looks tidy 👍🏻

[@themowerman]

Thanks mate

[@Turningwrenches85]

Wow riley was getting some licks in there on you mick lol😅 mr jones got that cylinder sharp to cut like butter or in this case a piece of 📄 👍

[@themowerman]

My ribs are still hurting lol

[@waynestefinashen239]

Lawnmower Jones got the equipment to do the job right mate, loved the video and the new face, just tell him in Canada a famous saying is Jonesing It.

[@Big_Johns]

It turned out really nice Mick, Lawnmower Jones seems to be a great guy. 👍 Tell Riley Boy we said hey from the US. 👋🙂

[@themowerman]

Will do mate Mr Jones is a top man ..

[@alandykes2519]

Good to see you Riley boy great job Mick have subed lawnmower jones 👍👍👍👍

[@themowerman]

Fantastic.. thanks mate

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[@themowerman]

Good morning Mr butler.. yeah I like it.. just getting used to it. I also like how they charge themselves..

[@tomwalker7980]

Anybody know if there's a compatible equivalent to the bearing rings and the felt seal rings that match (F016T40266,F016L02968). Can't get the felt seal rings anywhere, and tried the sealed bearing rings but they too small for the cylinder shaft! Any help much appreciated

[@Dstromb232]

Every video's I watch your dog always has his nose to the ground. He would make a great hunting dog. Nice family you have.

[@themowerman]

She's a working cocker.. it's in the blood.. I have had 3 working dogs.. my old mower store was the kennel..

[@Dstromb232]

@@themowerman Nice looking dog.

[@weepz]

Great video! Have you done any videos on petrol bathing parts, sanding and painting? Thanks!

[@themowerman]

No not yet..

[@Ray_ray11]

You don't need a bearing puller to remove the bearing. Once the bearing housing is out you can knock the bearing out from thr back side of the housing. That's how I do it.

[@themowerman]

Ok.. I was just showing how I do it.. I have a bearing puller so I chose to use it .if I didn't someone would say .... You need a bearing pull.. can't win..

[@gr328]

I put some WD on the knife and blades. I might help to stop the red paint chipping off.

[@crunchstudio9475]

Hi Mick have you stripped down the scarifying cassette for these machines ? I have a qualcast 35s scarifying cassette with missing springs and also the springs also out of alignment. There is nothing on the web for dealing with this. Perhaps your next video ? Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@themowerman]

Hi mate .. I don't have a video on it but maybe I could get one done

[@crunchstudio9475]

@@themowerman that would be great. There is a shape to each section but mine without noticing it are out of sync…

[@markchester7584]

Why wouldn’t you have cleaned up that bearing housing when so much effort went into the rest of the job?

[@leefenton9477]

Have you completed a video that included the spraying up the body to a nice shine. What was used separately to the wd40

[@themowerman]

Not as yet mate..

[@sudha988]

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[@themowerman]

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[@andrewjohn7952]

Love your videos… were you a Lawncare engineer by trade or just self taught

[@themowerman]

Self taught mate

[@seosamhmacgiollaphadraig2138]

Fantastic vid Mick. Delighted to find this as I'm refurbishing a cutting cassette. Also had two broken spindles on a scarifier cassette so with the knowledge from this vid, I can replace those. Quick question though for you Mick, could you recommend a bearing puller or bearing puller kit that would handle the removal of the bearings. Thanks so much in advance!

[@themowerman]

Hi. Just take the small aluminium housing and tap them out with a hammer.. the come out easily

[@seosamhmacgiollaphadraig2138]

Thanks a million Mick. Super appreciated. My brother and I really enjoy the channel. A mine of great information. All the best to you, Riley Boy and your family!@@themowerman

[@themowerman]

@@seosamhmacgiollaphadraig2138 Thanks mate we appreciate the support

[@jasonchatham]

Hey Mick - Ever since I picked up an Atco 17S a couple of weeks ago - I 've been following most of your videos. Have stripped the carb and fuel system runs pretty well with some fresh oil in it. Stripping it down following this video and have a few simple questions.... Where do you go for your ATCO parts ? What type of paint are you using for the Black and Red ? Did you use any primer ?

[@themowerman]

Hi mate .. I use garden hire spares for most parts.. post box red for the cylinder.. and any type of black satin for the black... No undercoat needed...

[@jasonchatham]

@@themowerman THANKS

[@mindgame01]

Excellent video. Had a nightmare with my 10 blade the other day only recently had it back from a regrind and the grass box hanger bolt came out and cylinder ate it! Not too much damage but ended up knocking out alignment. Took me a good couple of hours and a backlap to get it to cut again and still not 100% What is the most common cause if its cutting at the sides but not middle? Yet any further adjustment lower causes the cylinder to catch bottom blade at the corner? I also find it awkward to screw on bottom blade as you can determine angle ever ao slightly so i guess it depends on the profile cut and needing to match it to cylinder. Thanks

[@themowerman]

If it's not cutting in the middle I would check your bottom blade.. may have a dink in it..

[@mindgame01]

@@themowerman if replacing bottom blade to a new one does it need to be matched to cylinder at the time of grinding or would it generally be a good cut out the box providing cylinder is good?

[@themowerman]

@@mindgame01 I would say it needs grinding mate.

[@amandapetermendez1725]

Hi Mick. Bear with me, Stroke Survivor here. Just bought 2nd hand Allett Suffolk Punch Electric Cylinder Mower. Stripped, cleaned, backlapped it and works great. My query: 1 of the screws that lowers the blade to the bed knife managed to turn with force to be able to backlap. If the blade cut to the end of the season now, what would you recommend?

[@themowerman]

Sorry mate I don't understand.. try again mate

[@amandapetermendez1725]

@themowerman when it's time to do the paper cutting test, you have to turn the 2 screws/bolts to move the blades closer to the bed knife. I managed to get the blades smack on and cut the paper all the way across. 1 of the screws/bolts managed to just about let me complete the paper cut test, so now the mower is ready to use. I was asking, if the blades last to the end of the season, I want to fully remove the screw/bolt that won't tighten anymore and find out why it is so stiff/tight/seizing. I used wd40 and that helped it move a few mm but I thought I would leave as is, just incase you said "Don't touch it now if it's usable, unscrew it fully at the end of the season". Does that make sense Mick. Just want to know in advance whether it's just a case of being able to just remove that 1 adjusting screw/bolt, clean the thread and retighten, or if in your experience it's something else.

[@themowerman]

@@amandapetermendez1725 ok I see.. yeah use it for now and at the end of the season just take it out and give the bold a clean or replace it for a new one..

[@np1974np1]

MIke, i greetings. i have a question about the bed knife. How does one know that it is straight and how to sharpen it. after cleaning it; does one put it on the glass plate? does one use a shaper machine to bring out the cutting edge. what angle to the flat does one need to have.can it be done by hand and eye job? please explain. thank you in advance. Nav

[@themowerman]

Hi.. the first question i have is how do you sharpen your cylinder?

[@johnobiro5202]

I rarely work on cylinder mowers Mick, but I found this video very interesting. Not that I’m going to work on them

[@themowerman]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@pristinekleencleaning]

Great video mick really handy info for the future, my cylinder cassette is also a pain to get in and out but my scarifier cartridge slides in and out like a dream, do you know how to rectify it or why that could be ?

[@themowerman]

All the same mate.. a little grease on the sides will help

[@Ray_ray11]

If you overtighten the two bolts that holds the cylinder in it can draw the sides in where the nut is welded making it tight to get the cylinder in and out. I made the mistake of doing this. I had to buy a used deck.

[@misterdog597]

Mine was tight so I loosened all the screws/ bolts on the pulley side, sat the other side on the bench and tapped it with a hammer. Or you could use a long clamp.

[@pristinekleencleaning]

@@themowerman cheers mate I’ll give it a go

[@pristinekleencleaning]

@@Ray_ray11 makes sense to me ray I think like mick said they all seem to be like it I did think about getting a used cassette and swapping all the parts over

[@kevinmckee9324]

Does anyone have any tricks for removing the four screws that hold the deflection plate on. My seem totally seized. I’ve soaked in WD40 and penetrating oil…still stuck. Thanks.

[@themowerman]

Inpacdriver

[@zombiedeathkill666]

Hi, I have just got hold of my Grandads mower. The only ID number I can see is 6241 / 6 it's a four stroke Atco. Any idea how to date it and where I can find a manual for it? Cheers

[@themowerman]

Email me a photo of it mate ... [e-mail]

[@cardroid8615]

Hi mate, I've just bought a similar mower to this the atco windsor 12s and I went to sharpen the blades and i noticed the cylinder left side bearing housing (not the drive side) was moving up and down a bit. Is that normal by any chance or is it meant to not move at all? Ive took it apart & had a look at it and i don't think it's the bearing , I'm thinking it could be axel/spindle that's bent? Or its meant to move? Your advise would be much appreciated. Thanks

[@themowerman]

It should not move as much as that

[@cardroid8615]

@@themowerman okay mate cheers. Its probably bent then thats why I'm getting the wobble. Do you know anyone who's selling a cylinder for a atco windsor 12s by any chance? Or is there a way to repair my one? Have you ever had this problem before? Cheers bud.

[@themowerman]

@@cardroid8615 hmmm I don't eBay would be the best bet

[@cardroid8615]

@@themowerman no worries. Cheers bud

[@mikecaudwell447]

I have just found your channel Mick and what a treasure trove of information it is. Well done. I am refurbishing a Balmoral 20SE that I picked up at a good price on eBay 3 or 4 years ago, but then got sidetracked into other projects. I have stripped the cassette following your excellent 10 June video and have a couple of questions. 1. The bearings are cup and cone rather than the sealed items in your video. Presumably these can be refurbished or replaced as necessary. 2. The bearing carriers appear to have been adjusted to the full extent of their travel - they cannot be advanced any further to ensure that the proper setting of the cylinder against the bottom blade can be achieved. Is it likely that the cylinder has been ground to the limit of it’s usefulness (whatever that might be)? I measure the diameter of the swept circle of the cylinder blades to be about 132mm. Any guidance you can offer will be most appreciated.

[@themowerman]

Hi mate .. firstly thanks for checking out the channel.. yeah you can change the bearing over.. secondly how warm is the bottom blade? It may be possible to renew it and get a little more lift out of the cylinder

[@mikecaudwell447]

Thanks for your prompt reply. What 's the best way to assess wear on the bottom blade - eyeballing it or is there a measurement?@@themowerman

[@themowerman]

@@mikecaudwell447 how thin is it

[@mikecaudwell447]

OK - I have just cleaned off all the corrosion. It is not a pretty sight. I have seen a specification online for a new blade which is 81.9mm wide. Mine is 75mm at one end and 76mm at the other - not even straight. It looks like it has been ground by hand. I guess it's a replacement bottom blade then. Are the non-genuine Atco replacements at around £0 quid OK?@@themowerman

[@themowerman]

@@mikecaudwell447 yeah a copy one will be fine.. then get it ground with the cylinder

[@leefenton9477]

Could I ask what are the tell take signs ? The bearing is knackered. I’ve a scarifier and it doesn’t want to rotate by hand. 🤔

[@themowerman]

That will be a sign the the bearing is on its way out.. they are not expensive

[@leefenton9477]

@@themowerman Is it the same way to do the scarifier as the cylinder. But it’s just removing the current bearing

[@themowerman]

@@leefenton9477 yes I believe so

[@davidwatkins9555]

How much did the grinding cost ?

[@themowerman]

@@davidwatkins9555 I pay £2 an inch

[@christiandaulman7876]

Hi mate. Can I ask what spray paints you used on this please

[@themowerman]

Think it was post box red from Halfords

[@christiandaulman7876]

Thank you. Was the black from halfords to? Was it satin black?

[@themowerman]

@@christiandaulman7876 yes mate

[@knighthawk86855]

As for the sound, you don't sound as good as usual, it's very tinny.

[@themowerman]

Thanks for letting me know..

[@paddyschannel217]

🤣 nanna’s pants 👍🏻

[@themowerman]

Lol