The Motorsport That Killed Its Own Fans..

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Күн бұрын

Six hundred brake horsepower, 1 single rule and zero safety measures…
These were three of the reasons why pretty much everyone loved Group B
Unfortunately, they’re also 3 of the reasons it got banned… it was straight-up insanity, and you’re about to see the why..
It was known for being one of, if not the most dangerous sport to ever exist.
Some of the fastest cars in the world, incredible title fights, spectators being heavily injured, and way, way too many fatalities…
This is how & why Group B became world’s most dangerous motorsport & the legacy it left behind.
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@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
Tried something new, your feedback is more than welcome! & if you wanna see more Motorsport content (not just F1), lmk what I should cover next 👇
@morgandobbins6079
@morgandobbins6079 3 ай бұрын
your videos are very well put together, you deserve more subscribers!!!❤❤
@thegsquared
@thegsquared 3 ай бұрын
Once again, your content never fails to impress! Suggestion on Non-F1 content: How a V12 diesel Le Mans car (Audi R10 TDI) won the 24 hours of Le Mans.
@Allstarhero8900
@Allstarhero8900 3 ай бұрын
Maybe make a video about group c racing
@naptime43x
@naptime43x 2 ай бұрын
barbie jeep racing, or maybe the Baja 500/1000. that is still pretty wild with spectators and what not.
@pranijshrestha8774
@pranijshrestha8774 Ай бұрын
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@berke2336
@berke2336 3 ай бұрын
The fact that there weren't MORE spectators hit is honestly kinda impressive.
@THERHINOFORZA4
@THERHINOFORZA4 3 ай бұрын
True the drivers were insane
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 3 ай бұрын
​@@THERHINOFORZA4Spectors too. Some of them were jumping out of the way. Like, WHY ARE YOU IN THE ROAD!!
@Tkdriverx
@Tkdriverx 3 ай бұрын
I guess that shows just how talented the drivers of this era were, being able to avoid them when they were that close
@chrisccc22
@chrisccc22 3 ай бұрын
I would have to agree. Amazing actually.
@mathewhosier9739
@mathewhosier9739 2 ай бұрын
The only ones that died were suicidal anyways, they kinda had it coming
@phil4986
@phil4986 3 ай бұрын
"Don't want to get hit, don't stand on the track." "Where is the track?" "Anywhere you stand."
@notyourusualsuspect6175
@notyourusualsuspect6175 2 ай бұрын
The track is on the road, bro. That dark strip in front of you.
@edwarddevlin6034
@edwarddevlin6034 3 ай бұрын
The cars were on the limit, the fans were just fuckin stupid for the most part
@bluebelle8823
@bluebelle8823 3 ай бұрын
As I saw an F1 representative say about the 1994 season, "It's business. Nothing personal." Group B was definitely using the same mindset. It's always fantastic to see drivers using their conscience and saying "no I can't do that, I will not do that'.
@TMcKeon408
@TMcKeon408 3 ай бұрын
Group B aka: the "hold my beer" of motorsports.
@brianwong7285
@brianwong7285 Ай бұрын
To quote the series' last driver's champion, Juha Kankkunen: WRC is for boys, Group B was for men.
@makimaxx2311
@makimaxx2311 13 күн бұрын
What a comment😂😂😂
@obnoxiousnesli
@obnoxiousnesli 2 күн бұрын
my best friend is into f1 and she got me invested aswell but i always felt it was "too sterile" for me until I found out about rallye and it's the perfect amount of insanity and chaos that I love 😭
@bryanpetersen1334
@bryanpetersen1334 Ай бұрын
In today’s world of hyper safety, walking helmets, and less lethal fly swatters, watching these tuned up, airborne cars racing on dirt and snow, and inches from spectators seems refreshing somehow.
@aspalovin
@aspalovin Ай бұрын
The on track fans were the parents and grand parents of tik tokers. You can tell. It's a shame Group B was ruined by morons on the tracks.. Didn't help for the drivers that the cars were rockets made of tin foil though.. Imagine G.B coming back with today's safety equipment and keeping the slime off the racing lines? It would be awesome. Watching those cars perform like that on those surfaces was incredible.. Leave it to the unwashed masses to wreck it.. Group B.onehead
@sluglow6357
@sluglow6357 Ай бұрын
Always funny watching nerds who sit in their room all day talk about the world is too soft today lol
@jcngokai-76
@jcngokai-76 3 ай бұрын
Outside of Isle of Man TT race, Group B is the most dangerous racing series of all time, no rules on materials that constructs a car, no safety barriers for both cars and fans, anything goes … and then Fonseca Island event happened in 1986 (same year that Space Shuttle Challenger, Chernobyl, and my own maternal grandmother were lost)
@patrickgriffitt6551
@patrickgriffitt6551 Ай бұрын
No fans with brains. No crowd control.
@therickman1990
@therickman1990 3 ай бұрын
It's a chicken and egg story really. Group B was so popular it attracted insane amounts of people, and that same popularity eventually killed it.
@Quickdraw_Punslinger
@Quickdraw_Punslinger 3 ай бұрын
World's most dangerous motorsport? Who should tell him about road racing and the Isle of Man TT races? Great video though, can't wait to see more.
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
Guess I’ll have to make another one then 👀
@Stettafire
@Stettafire 3 ай бұрын
Isle of Mann TT series is very dangerous, but nowhere near as bad.
@Quickdraw_Punslinger
@Quickdraw_Punslinger 3 ай бұрын
@@Stettafire It can be discussed considering one is with cars and the other one are motorcycles. But as a TT marshal who's been a first responder at a major incident I can assure you road racing is a strong contender for the title.
@darklord9581
@darklord9581 3 ай бұрын
But how many pedestrians/by standers die in isle of the man? I know drivers have for sure, but have no knowledge of anyone spectators passing away.
@Dr1ftLegend
@Dr1ftLegend 3 ай бұрын
Isle of man TT isn't a motorsport but a race
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 Ай бұрын
22:07: There is evidence that Toivonen was physically and mentally exhausted, both by the length of that particular rally as he says in a few seconds, plus from the grind of the entire season. But he felt he couldn't ask for time off during the season as the team probably would not allow it. At the crash scene, there are conflicting accounts as to whether there were tire marks on the road at the corner where the car went off, indicating a skid, or no tire marks. If it is the latter then it is possible he blacked out from sheer exhaustion and lack of sleep and the car totally missed the corner.
@christianellegaard7120
@christianellegaard7120 2 ай бұрын
Groups A, B, and C weren't just for Rallying. The system was made to attract more manufactures to all a FIA's sports car categories. The problems were primarily in Rally, however.
@Dexter037S4
@Dexter037S4 3 ай бұрын
WRC didn't even come close to losing popularity following 86', it continued to Grow. Spectators were regularly an issue until Loeb won 9 straight titles.
@Mighty.Titan1
@Mighty.Titan1 2 ай бұрын
16:03 This is Sierra Cosworth of Marian Bublewicz (R.I.P). The footage is from February 1993!
@Tripsaas01
@Tripsaas01 Ай бұрын
Over 4 hours of this kind of driving per day is crazy stupid. Great job FIA 👍
@maciejgajoch1774
@maciejgajoch1774 2 ай бұрын
At 16:01 Ford Sierra of Polish best driver Marian Bublewicz.Fatal accident at 1993 Dolnoslaski rally.After hit the tree,Marian was locked in cockpit for almost 1 hour.There was no equipment to cut the roll cage.I still remember this horror.Unfortunatelly Marian died in hospital after few hours.That was a real tragedy for Polish motorsport.We all loved him.
@someoneyouknow0n0
@someoneyouknow0n0 3 ай бұрын
Gotta love the videos, absolutely well done man!❤
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it mate ❤️
@Arandomcat7
@Arandomcat7 3 ай бұрын
My grandad used to be a group b rally marshall
@dukezFRL
@dukezFRL 3 ай бұрын
thats sick
@SovietAlexMent
@SovietAlexMent 3 ай бұрын
I remember my dad telling me he met Walter rolh in 1983 acropolis if I remember correctly, pretty cool, I love group b especially the Audi Quattro s1 e2
@superbanaan9
@superbanaan9 3 ай бұрын
whats crazy is it wasnt out the ordinairy to find bodyparts in the car after the race like servered fingers etc because air ducts cut them of people trying to touch cars going fast
@ak-jxrdy-7
@ak-jxrdy-7 2 ай бұрын
Yep, I remember a story about fingers found on the windshield wipers.
@nickllewellin217
@nickllewellin217 3 ай бұрын
Haha, my cousin is David Llewellin, A group B race in 1986!
@cschnauz
@cschnauz 3 ай бұрын
If you’re interested in group b Watch the documentary Riding balls of fire
@thegsquared
@thegsquared 3 ай бұрын
Amazing content DailyFuelUp! Now, Imagine what Group B would be like if they still existed? They would be like crazy turbo hybrid monsters with 1500hp+ with today’s technology.
@iZ3C0LD7
@iZ3C0LD7 3 ай бұрын
Koenigsegg is the first thing that comes up my mind when you mentioned "crazy turbo hybrid monsters with 1500hp+ with today’s technology" fr
@thegsquared
@thegsquared 2 ай бұрын
@@iZ3C0LD7 That’s road car technology that Koenigsegg developed. Not rally racing. Koenigsegg never got into racing (they weren’t allowed to thanks to GT1 homologation changes)
@martinpattison1567
@martinpattison1567 3 ай бұрын
Crowd control in some events was non-existent, there were not enough Marshalls and it wasn't easy to find more trained and qualified marshalls. When the Course Car drove through the stages and saw the excessive number of spectators the Cleark of the course should have cancelled the stage. This could even mean cancelling the whole event. Group B rallying was spectacular to watch, but, the cars themselves were too fast for a driver to react to what the car was doing. I marshalled the RAC Rally for 20 years (1979-2000) sometimes, I was the only marshal on a corner at 03,00am halfway up a mountain in freezing cold 🥶weather. We had no spectators to worry about. The half bottle of anti-freeze in my pocket for the occasional sip helped. 20 years for a Plastic or Metal badge Martin. (Thailand) 🥵
@SA4LIFE
@SA4LIFE 3 ай бұрын
I swear you're the best motorsport channel on youtube mate.
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it mate❤️
@juanitooctavio9023
@juanitooctavio9023 2 ай бұрын
Any motorsport would be dangerous when the spectators are standing ON the track! I remember those rallies. Insane drivers and suicidal spectators.
@ThomasFerner
@ThomasFerner 2 ай бұрын
"Who lets spectators stand next to cars going 150 MPH "......NO the question IS what INTELLIGENT person WOULD ?......So ban it ?.....But a month later the very same type of "safety conscious " people yell strap up for war boys ...don't worry its " safe " .....Makes no sense to me.
@kamikazeclaymore
@kamikazeclaymore 3 ай бұрын
These home videos are what I was downloading as viral videos during the limewire/kazaa days. Lol Epic racing.
@therealsyxx
@therealsyxx 23 күн бұрын
This video is hilarious and informative at the same time. Thank you
@mikecochrane803
@mikecochrane803 3 ай бұрын
The difference between Walter and other drivers was that he only hit the camera. The last world champion in a 2WD car, and THE star of Group B!
@FlashoftheBlades
@FlashoftheBlades 2 ай бұрын
Group B and its planned successor, Group S, would probably have been more at home in rallycross. I know that some Group B cars did compete in rallycross after they were banned from the WRC, but making them official rallycross categories would’ve been a better place for them. With rallycross being held on closed circuits that aren’t always as fast as a rally stage, and with the spectators being kept further back from the racing surface, it certainly would’ve been a safer setting. Also, Group A and N were around during the time of Group B, having succeeded Groups 2 & 1, respectively. Those were the mass-produced categories that required a minimum build quantity of 5,000. Groups 3 & 4, the predecessor to Group B, had a lower minimum build quantity. 400 in the case of Group 4. While Lancia did win the 1983 Manufacturers Championship, their drivers didn’t contest every rally that season, clearing the way for Hannu Mikkola to win the Drivers Championship for Audi. Also, it wasn’t just Audi that withdrew from the WRC after Henri Toivonen’s fatal accident. Ford also pulled out in the aftermath.
@TheOfficialOrbitz
@TheOfficialOrbitz 3 ай бұрын
It always a good day when dfb uploads!
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it mate❤️
@BlueSkyCrystals
@BlueSkyCrystals Ай бұрын
11:22 Jean Todt, the greatest team principal of all time. He turned Peugeot into a juggernaut in rallying and hill climbs, then turned Ferrari into a juggernaut in F1.
@Famous_Mist
@Famous_Mist 2 ай бұрын
I was in that accident in Portugal, in Sintra, on top of a tree, the track is so short that you didn't have 1 metro to stand... Every year we use to talk about the possibility of a big accident
@jordantruong305
@jordantruong305 Ай бұрын
The craziest part is that the drivers WANTED more rules for safety when normally rules ruin everything
@kurtisduke2685
@kurtisduke2685 4 күн бұрын
Something a lot of people may not know is that the Lancia 037 was the only 2 wheel drive car that beat the Audi Quarto.
@Monkey_D_Luffy56
@Monkey_D_Luffy56 8 күн бұрын
Everything is insane the cars, engineers, mechanics, pilot and co pilots, track/stages
Ай бұрын
Even hundreds years later people will talk about group B and how crazy it was 🙃
@mehimrc1314
@mehimrc1314 Ай бұрын
Title is backwards, it should read "The fans that killed their Motorsport" how dumb do you have to be to stand Infront of those beasts and think "wow what a cool view, I'll just move in a crowd"
@dukezFRL
@dukezFRL 3 ай бұрын
imagine if the mid engined quattro were approved, the sport wouldve gotten so much crazier.
@lexkellytelly1334
@lexkellytelly1334 3 ай бұрын
It’s crazy that people are running across the track
@GregorioStyreco
@GregorioStyreco 16 күн бұрын
my mind read " the motorsport that killed only fans..." and i was the luckiest person on earth for a brief moment.
@johngeren1053
@johngeren1053 17 күн бұрын
The Toivonen/Cresto S4 landed tail first. You can tell from photos of the post crash remains when the burned out chassis is on the tow truck.
@patrickbuick5459
@patrickbuick5459 Ай бұрын
I used to assist with Rally. It was insane how many people would queue up where physics would take a vehicle with traction loss or otherwise out of control. More examples of people who cannot think even minimally rationally.
@AsherTisor
@AsherTisor 6 күн бұрын
1:04 the scary part is more spectators died than the drivers in the 170mph cars going down dirt trails
@KepokLekor69
@KepokLekor69 12 күн бұрын
Rally nowadays safety..i cannot brain, the crash look brutal..but the driver just like nothing happend
@omni201
@omni201 Ай бұрын
If I had to go out, getting biffed by a car and sent to the Group B track in the sky? Wouldn’t be mad.
@merhaba8
@merhaba8 Ай бұрын
The action of the spectators varied from country to country. In New Zealand we never had the crowd issues with Group B that countries like Portugal.
@updates2549
@updates2549 3 ай бұрын
More unique content.. Well done!
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
❤️
@cyberalc
@cyberalc 3 ай бұрын
Just came across your channel its dope af. Why blur out the crashes.
@djbros_dede300
@djbros_dede300 8 күн бұрын
KZbin has overly strict guidlines
@eS._Te
@eS._Te 3 ай бұрын
one of the best videos on this topic and youtube !
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
I really put a lot of time and effort into making this video, nothing makes me happier than reading comments like this❤️
@Ccidergoob
@Ccidergoob 2 ай бұрын
and it was amazing. especially with the extra details
@naptime43x
@naptime43x 2 ай бұрын
this was the first time ive seen one of your videos and it was really good, might have to check out some f1 too.
@frankplaitedhair5666
@frankplaitedhair5666 Ай бұрын
Got So Into It They "JUST DIDN'T CARE". Great Crazy Time For Group B Car Racing.
@JackF99
@JackF99 2 ай бұрын
Well done. I believe it's pronounced LAWN-cha not LAN-see-ya
@Bleifuss88
@Bleifuss88 Ай бұрын
Too much polemics in this video. Toivonen was not complaining about the cars, he was complaining about the LENGTH of the rally that had been extended before the event. Banning Group B and Group S was the biggest mistake that could have been done and it was done basically because rallying was threatening F1 as the pinnacle of motorsports at that time. With Group A popularity declined massively. The only thing that needed to be done was better crowd control and getting rid of fuel tanks in the middle of the car. Rallying never recovered from the loss of Group B although the early WRC era (1997-2003) was great.
@oxcart4172
@oxcart4172 3 ай бұрын
It looks like the film Death Race 2000!
@klaidys8782
@klaidys8782 14 күн бұрын
It just happened in lithuania when rally car just went into group of people’s. 1 dead 14 injured 😢
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 2 ай бұрын
The rules on spectators were poison. There was plenty of audio/video technology for covering in detail, and designated safe areas for people at the events would have given the drivers, teams, sponsors more TIME to develop and push limits in a way Group B could have continued. The drivers who perished died doing what they were obviously passionate about. It was a dangerous way to race, but they knew that when they got behind the wheel. RIP all.
@spezkay81
@spezkay81 21 күн бұрын
Someday soon computers will be racing cars. That’s gonna be nuts!
@ElMundoDeHadesOK
@ElMundoDeHadesOK 3 ай бұрын
i dont like rallying.. but even i get mega excited when it comes to Group B
@yigajoel9526
@yigajoel9526 27 күн бұрын
motorsport rallies still happen like this in africa.
@phrtao
@phrtao 3 ай бұрын
I remember going to see a rally during this era in Wales. We stood up on a hill but I could see the crowds lining the road and I was so sacred for them being so close to the cars. Not an enjoyable event to be at in my opinion.
@donwest5387
@donwest5387 16 күн бұрын
had these people never seen cars before?
@maurizza3499
@maurizza3499 3 ай бұрын
Group A wouldn't exist without Group B's fatalities
@JveerPlayz9000
@JveerPlayz9000 3 ай бұрын
Nice video🔥
@DailyFuelUp
@DailyFuelUp 3 ай бұрын
Thank you brother ❤️
@CaptainQuark9
@CaptainQuark9 3 ай бұрын
Ahhhhh, Group B and Group C... The 80s were a great era for great motorsport!
@andsoitwas3046
@andsoitwas3046 3 ай бұрын
Wow.. just wow, they need to bring this category back.
@Car-Land-zzz
@Car-Land-zzz 3 ай бұрын
yo love the variety do more of those 🔥🔥
@locuszin
@locuszin 3 ай бұрын
ooh new stuff, I love it, anything motorsport, DuelyFuelUp is my favourite channel.
@crxstal4552
@crxstal4552 2 ай бұрын
Group B is literally street racing without a street
@CJ-yb8uw
@CJ-yb8uw 2 ай бұрын
I loved watching these Rallies as kid👍😎
@Cableitiable
@Cableitiable 3 ай бұрын
At 16:03 those are remains of a Sierra Gr. A rally car of an exceptional Polish driver Marian Bublewicz 7 times Polish Rally Champion and 1992 ERC runner up champion who died because of the horrible accident. The emergency services hadn't had the jaws of life in 1993 (astronomicaly expensive in post communist country) so it has considerably lengthen the rescue operation.
@senormojo
@senormojo Ай бұрын
To be honest, it’s the fans that pretty much kill themselves. As tragic as it is.
@Erodezz
@Erodezz 10 күн бұрын
Le mans laughing in the back ground
@TylerB1723
@TylerB1723 3 ай бұрын
As exciting as this may have been, it's just utterly stupid. Even after 2 kids got killed, they were like "yeah it's racing!"
@Boebus1-hy6gu
@Boebus1-hy6gu 3 ай бұрын
Nice vid
@rudetoy8264
@rudetoy8264 Ай бұрын
Stupid is as stupid does - Forrest Gump Movie Quote
@gonpala
@gonpala 3 ай бұрын
It seems stupid and counterintuitive to banned 4DW in rally. Like, idk, having 4x2m cars trying to race in Monaco.
@JackBlack-ii1ip
@JackBlack-ii1ip Ай бұрын
Took the car into my local repair shop with frontal damage. Insurance? Nah, cash, flashing wad of folding stuff. Ready Thursday. How did it happen? Spectators, no consideration. And we all had a good laugh. Sociopath? You'd better believe it.
@marcoferrai
@marcoferrai 2 күн бұрын
Yes group b is special won't see it ever again ♥️
@DFSJR1203
@DFSJR1203 3 ай бұрын
To this day you still see people standing right at the edge of the track. I have seen cars go off and the morons by the side of the track had to run like hell to keep from being hit. This is down right stupid. I know they can not put up barriers the hole length of the circuit and what good would it do. People would find some way over, under, or thru the barriers just to get closer to the cars.
@CR71243
@CR71243 3 ай бұрын
If Group B weren’t banned, would Ferrari have produced more 288 GTOs?
@dukezFRL
@dukezFRL 3 ай бұрын
perhaps, same with the porsche 959
@Dexter037S4
@Dexter037S4 3 ай бұрын
The 288 and 959 were not meant for Group B Rally, but Group B GT. Privateers only took them rallying.
@gleglatin
@gleglatin Ай бұрын
didn't watch, but KILLED FANS BY A MOTORSPORT IS DEEP
@The-od1-out
@The-od1-out 13 күн бұрын
The drivers in the end had to just agree with themselves that the people where just like trees part of the track it was crazy but everyone loved it
@human144k3
@human144k3 2 ай бұрын
My birthplace in The Netherlands had a annual rally including group B... It was dangerous for the fans and spectators but it was on public roads and free for everyone to watch at their own risk... Everyone accepted that and was kind of okay with the danger... What is the problem than? Too much fun?? More people die for nothing in Ukraine per day than ever died in group B....
@michokazour2172
@michokazour2172 10 күн бұрын
The video is BRUTAL But why everything dangerous is fun?!
@Vvopat96
@Vvopat96 3 ай бұрын
I think it's majority's opinion what mattered, most of people just wanted group B to continue and after that big crash as Audi pulled out and people were sad, the opinion changed. It's called experience learning, the learning that is more monkey way than logical predicting and also simpler people then learn that it's dangerous. Enough people changed their mind and things changed. It's still the case, majority's opinion is the way things go. Average IQ in 1980 was under 80 if compared to today's test, we have improved a lot.
@Bongebob
@Bongebob 3 ай бұрын
Man I love this chanel from the bottom of my heart
@flowerofcalamity
@flowerofcalamity 22 күн бұрын
For drag people think of the unlimited class in drag racing that's pretty much what this group was
@johnadams9106
@johnadams9106 10 күн бұрын
Motor sports is a very dangerous sports,with a lot of fatalities to driver's and spectators
@bestlaidplans2024
@bestlaidplans2024 22 күн бұрын
If they brought it back the same as it was before people would still crowd around to see it
@sam3d
@sam3d 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the bull runs in Spain! 😅😅😅😅😅😅
@Glenrsi
@Glenrsi 2 ай бұрын
If spectators stand in crowds so close and on the road, it is their own fault.
@olszu3350
@olszu3350 Ай бұрын
13:21 my God..
@justinbush4482
@justinbush4482 3 ай бұрын
My dad always tells me to keep history in context. But...how FIA did nothing? And weren't held accountable? I don't get it.
@frainkchtain_44
@frainkchtain_44 2 ай бұрын
Great presentation method, good delivery and professional editing half an hour video duration, but preparation takes hours. A fun and wonderful video, keep showing content like this.
@peterdevreter
@peterdevreter 3 ай бұрын
Michelle Mouton 😍
@critonix_online5977
@critonix_online5977 4 күн бұрын
0:08 why are there people floating 💀
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