Allen council meeting erupts in argument over open carry debate

[@dl7340]

2nd amendment belongs to the people not government

[@swagner4163]

The 2nd Amendment shall not be infringe on by the Government. A criminal record does not allow for this Protection to be taken by the Government either.

[@ernstvgrund]

Not exactly. The 2nd Amendment is an article created by a Government. If there's no US Government, there's no 2nd Amendment. To enforce the right of all law abiding citizens to have a gun is the function of 2A. It can't solely belong to the people, or else your right to own a gun is no greater than my right to take it from you.

[@mmaymoun]

@@ernstvgrund You need to do some studying about "natural rights"--- Your comment is intellectually immature

[@kalel_with_a_hyphen4812]

@Adventure Fishing creator? your parents?

[@prodgrady7187]

@@ernstvgrund wrong. Natural rights. The bill of rights defines what/how the government cannot infringe on those human rights. It does NOT grant us our rights

[@shrodingerscat4191]

Shall not be infringed people

[@desoliver9712]

*Man with a moustache* I'm not trying to be intimidating *Also man with moustache* SHUT UP I'M TALKING 😡

[@xcaluhbration]

This man's facial hair let's you know he's not to be trifled with.

[@okrkyokrky]

:16 - "shut up I'm talkin"...lol good for him....set their asses straight

[@supreme2005]

Why is the mayor having a conversation and responding to comments from the audience members who are out of order shouting in the middle of a meeting?

[@G2G2-q7w]

Not sure a mayor can restrict free speech. Perhaps some legal scholars need to weigh in.

[@jakeandedgar]

Mayor handled it well.

[@kingfreedom1863]

its not a single person to determine if i should carry or not. your fears will not infringe others god given constitutional rights

[@zodinthara7925]

Not God given. In fact the constitution of USA was not blessed by the priest because there was no budget allocated which is just fine as that shows nothing should be done eithout proper accounts and checks. Its a hypocricy call in God in an affair entirely decided by Man

[@tracybratcher2829]

Time for a new Mayor

[@Pete-qo7bv]

Mayoring!!! Is that a word?

[@kellymellows6777]

Oh god. Honor the constitution. Period

[@JeffreyOsb]

In that case you shouldn't be allowed to own a weapon because it includes the clause "A well armed militia" Guess what, the "National Guard" is a militia, one person carrying a weapon is not a militia. You can't just cherry pick the constitution my friend.

[@kellymellows6777]

@@brandonbeacham86 she probably doesn't agree with the 13th amendment. 2nd,1st, 4th. Shit.... they are all pretty damn important. I'm honestly not sure what amendment any American wouldn't want to apply to people's rights as an American in today's times. Seems strange.

[@iamtheangiechrist1090]

@@JeffreyOsb You obviously can't read very well. It says a well armed militia as well as the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bare arms. And the national guard is both a militia and part of the armed forces you pleb. It's like that so federal and local government can call on them. Stop picking and choosing only statements that push your effing narrative.

[@JeffreyOsb]

@@iamtheangiechrist1090 You obviously can't read. It does not say "as well as" Here's the exact quote. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed. " Now you can interpret that how you want but it's pretty clear that the militia is the right of the people, not the right of everyone to keep and bear arms. You should go back to school and actually learn constitutional law.

[@iamtheangiechrist1090]

@@JeffreyOsb omg you pleb. I put that in there bc you obviously can't understand what they are trying to relay to you. The right of the ppl to keep and bare arms moron what do you think that means?

[@User.61770x]

The first dude thinks he’s a Pro Wrestler🤣

[@mistaparker5878]

What I got from this is our tax dollars might as well be set on fire. From the bottom to the top take all money out of politics!

[@joeywilburn8672]

1 person open carries for some reason... 76 people concealed carry and No One Ever Knows...

[@kingfreedom1863]

hes talking

[@XykuJoxa]

Security is a right. We know that our fists are not as powerful as the weapons used by criminals, so we much have equal or greater strength to defend ourselves, our families, and our homes. Every moment of life is precious, and every moment of life is worth defending. Carry arms at all times, the worst can fall upon you at any moment. Be good, be strong, be honest, and care about your neighbors.

[@43Aquaman]

what if the other guy has a bigger gun

[@desoliver9712]

The number of gun deaths in the U.S last year was around 45,222. UK-110 Germany- 815 France-1,611 Switzerland-214 Compare this number to every Western Country in the World... Are you seeing a pattern here?

[@desoliver9712]

@@43Aquaman Exactly... it just means you end up increasing the chances of criminals having guns too. The number of gun deaths in the U.S last year was around 45,222. UK-110 Germany- 815 France-1,611 Switzerland-214 By the way, most cops in the UK do not carry guns.

[@CypherDND]

@@desoliver9712 Good for them? We like our guns, and we will never surrender our firearms.

[@nirvanic3610]

Wish more were like you

[@reallyjustrandom1230]

HOLD IT!! "BANG!!" LMAO! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 is "Mayoring" a word even 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Mad-ad]

If only every city could actually have a Mayor like this!!

[@brandonbeacham86]

A mayor that says you need to debate this in political business not council business? That's just stupid. He might not be comfortable having to deal with tough issues but being a mayor is a political office. This fool was kind of term limited and ran for a district seat and lost in a primary. Cowardice should never be rewarded. Plus, he's a Republican mayor saying he likes that an obvious very liberal woman is on the council. You can say you like her as a person but to want her there over someone that would fight for economic and individual liberty would be who you want it that seat.

[@iamtheangiechrist1090]

@@brandonbeacham86 No he is right. Just bc some small towns ppl don't want open carry to be legal doesn't mean that mayor has to go against the Constitution. There shouldn't be any laws in any town anywhere in America that go against any amendment.

[@onlythewise1]

@@iamtheangiechrist1090 ya been said for two hundred years yakking don't make things happen

[@davidbagley1783]

Bottom up govt..libs dont get it

[@charlesmoore6140]

I don't need a gun to be a man some people do!

[@1SGDolorBelli]

Open carry is barely better than no-carry. CCW is best because a responsible carry is one that is never known. If the need arises, so be it. If it doesn't, so be it. Open carry for some people is like a girl with purple hair. Again...for some.

[@charlesmoore6140]

@@1SGDolorBelli I got a idea..let's go back to the old west everyone carries a gun on the hip and shoot outs are the best way to win a argument. Sounds NRA approved to me . They can sale so many guns the gun people will love it . I on the other think we need less guns and more learning to act human

[@1SGDolorBelli]

@@charlesmoore6140 Mr. Moore...actually your sarcasm is justified in some cases. A few years ago when Missouri still required certified training in order to receive a CCW permit, I was shocked to see the kinds of people who were getting certified to carry a concealed weapon legally in Missouri. Out of my class of 15 people, there were only 3 who had the maturity level and professional bearing to be carrying a concealed weapon. Sadly though, the guns are already in the hands of the bad guys...and, they are called "bad guys" for a reason. Before I retired, I was in senior mgt in a healthcare organization. We once had an angry patient with a gun and another time one with a hunting knife. Both 911 calls resulted in the police arriving in 7 and 11 minutes respectively. One cannot rely on even the best of police departments to arrive in time to stop terrible things from happening. I do respect your position.

[@charlesmoore6140]

@@1SGDolorBelli don't need a gun to be a man ...cowards do!

[@DixieHomestead]

@@charlesmoore6140 That attitude won't work well for you when a thug kicks in your back door and shoots you in the face. Having a gun does not make someone a coward. I like to know that I am armed as well as the bad guys so I can protect my family, there's nothing more manly or responsible than that if you ask me.

[@patriley1026]

Constitutional rights matter. GOD bless the 2nd Ammendment.

[@doogs2414]

Your so right.

[@riff2072]

I have never meet God or Jesus but I have a feeling that both would not let you have hand gun in Haven.

[@CypherDND]

@@riff2072 I have a feeling we don't care.

[@mustange550]

0:20 The wrath of of the council person is gonna STRIKE you DOWN!!!

[@dtimbs84]

Lol around 2:53 he was waiting for applause. It never came.

[@lordElpus10]

Hahaha! Then the tumble weed rolled by.

[@Alexandria87]

@@lordElpus10 🤣🤣🤣💀💀

[@glock30fotyfive]

Council members and their elitist attitudes

[@dustinclark8186]

You'll do as your told . Mayor. Shut up and like it

[@CitroTeam]

Anyone who behaves disapprovingly towards others in a public meeting, as this first gentleman did, must not carry a weapon. It boils in little water and that is a danger to public safety because, as has happened before, in a discussion of no importance at all, they pull a gun and shoot to kill.

[@isaidwtfover]

Then anyone who gets road rage must not be allowed to drive.

[@austinlester1683]

That was his time to address his grievances no one is supposed to talk except him

[@alanmorneau7622]

Better be the right decision

[@comicbrat86]

I'm still quite new to American culture; but I believe if you need to carry a gun in public to feel safe, then your town has a problem it needs to address

[@austinlester1683]

Would you mess with someone who has a gun…… no…… exactly. It’s not culture it’s being an actual man to provide security and safety for oneself and others. I’m guessing if you were in danger you would call men with guns to come and then wait? I never understand this irrational fear of guns. You see 2 ton metal death machines driving around daily all the time yet no one really uses them to kill mass amounts of people intentionally really yet it happens but you don’t address that cause hey not really a problem.

[@torih6440]

Well handled and well said mayor

[@brandonbeacham86]

Not political business. We do council business. That's stupid. City Council is political. Also, in most cities you have ordinances on guns. So why would he say that's not his business? Also, there are city attorneys that have cases involving guns.

[@HardAss69]

Go pound sand

[@brendan8465]

Doherty should resign.

[@davidmorgan3450]

Too late people the laws already passed they're allowed to open and caring should have gone and get off your cans then go to Capitol Hill and fought it but you didn't the law is pass it's over get over it

[@jonathancooper4914]

You have no authority here, Jackie Weaver!

[@swagner4163]

Follow your oath of Office you took on a Bible. That's it

[@Bugsy0333]

Time to resign Mr. Mayor

[@davidbagley1783]

Liberalism

[@pearcetaylor7019]

So they want her to resign bc they didn’t agree with her viewpoints LMAOOOO SNOWFLAKES

[@1996jessej]

STEVE TERRELL FOR PRESIDENT

[@zodinthara7925]

I am glad my country had prohibited arms and gave out licence rarely without needing to decide in present day. Yes, our democravy is doing just fine without private handguns proliferaring everywhere imcliding the criminals. I guess USA is majority violence minded. May be that is why they kicked up war everywhere and the citizens, which are not violent minded pay the price too.

[@miccassady9450]

And if the nazis come for us, you're getting on the train, and I'm not.

[@prodgrady7187]

Sarcasm right?

[@shanesteinmetz4563]

If you make guns illegal, law-abiding people will obey and become defenseless; criminals, on the other hand, will not.

[@chanilewis4614]

U apparently live in fantasy land. Have u ever been attacked by someone who is truly trying to hurt or kill and your stuck there with nothing but your fist to protect yourself and family? Go thru this and then come tell me guns need banned. If u do banbguns criminals will still have them and worse they'll use knives, explosives in most cases are even worse

[@austinlester1683]

You just said the citizens who are not violent minded which the majority are gun owners sooo the majority are peaceful gun owners according to your democratic principles then the majority is the populace. I don’t think you voted on your right to self defense your government just decided for you cause your butt is owned by powerful men that decide things for you. Whether you like it or not we are the super power and we also have personal rights that empower the individual over the power of government control.

[@user-yo4zt5su3b]

NO ONE should own a gun,this is ridiculous.

[@user-yo4zt5su3b]

Falanx I believe in prison I don’t believe in killing.

[@ryanbrunell7078]

I’m confused no one should own a gun ? No one should have the right to protect themselves?

[@ryanbrunell7078]

Shit hits the fan you call the police why??? Because they have guns our tax paying dollars paid for....

[@user-yo4zt5su3b]

Ryan Brunell let’s not make the killing of children all about you...protect yourself? Seriously,fuck what your government wrote in the 1700’s they didn’t have military grade weapons that slaughter children in a minute.

[@ryanbrunell7078]

Who’s killing children with guns every minute? I’m lost here 😂

[@chanilewis4614]

Every citizen has the right to carry this is America

[@adams8132]

That mayor in Allen is about as useful as a tick on a dog.

[@danielmoody105]

I love guns and so I would never move to California so what the f*** are people from California that hate them moving here