10 Reasons Not To Buy A Martin D-18

[@blood_red_sinnamon_official]

This man flexing on us hard lol.

[@steelhead197]

Hard!!!!!!! What a prick! Lol 🇨🇦😋

[@ComicKish]

Ya bro

[@timmcdonald9877]

1. You live in Hawaii 2. You appear to be retired 3. You have a ton of nice guitars 4. Well done sir!

[@spare7400]

He is as we say, "living the life"!

[@Tonetwisters]

Just stay off the stone fish!!

[@toneman335]

How many guitars do you need? Answer: Just one more!

[@petertaylor2148]

He's extremely good at singing Thai songs as well.. 🤔 an interesting man ! Seems to me he could be a teacher or something like that ... Anyway I do enjoy his videos.. Krop khun na Khrup Pom chob Carabao mak ha Khrup Khun gean te sud. Pop guan mai. La gon 🏄‍♂️

[@caiusKeys]

And his hair hasn't even turned gray yet!

[@maxtrumper892]

"...and the number one reason not to buy a Martin D-18.. I already bought it"

[@alfredfarber3385]

Bought a new D-18 for $325 in October 1969 the day I was discharged from military service. It aged like a Stradivarius. Plays and sounds better than many vintage 28s, 35s, and 45s I played in several different body styles. The tone is warm and the volume and bass response are very close to the D-28. Gave it to my son last year and got a 000-28, which is more suited to string bending for blues. There is no rational reason not to buy a D-18. I taught my grandson that you can never own too many guitars.

[@cookhealthyfast]

A big thumbs up. I would love to play your D-18. I'm sure it is great. Thanks for that reply.

[@alfredfarber3385]

DicksWorld, I'm sure you noticed the $325 price in 1969. A new D-18 today is around $2,400!!

[@vintagestrings6]

I had an 1982 D28 which sounded great, but I played a 60s D18 once and OMG it had the woodiest tone! It was amazing.

[@shayamaddex996]

@@alfredfarber3385 Inflation adjusted, the price really hasn't gone up all that much.

[@elkalabaw7665]

"you can never own too many guitars." that's a new one and I'll really keep that in mind.

[@kevinpaul1719]

I stopped at D28 because my wife owns a Smith&Weston big 45. I bought it for her. D28 is all I ever want.

[@gijsbertuslaurensvandevooren]

Never buy your wife a gun.

[@ВиталийТи-л6т]

))))

[@johnlynch6248]

Just buy a bigger condo. Problem solved. You welcome.

[@bofo4396]

John Lynch Thanks John you spoke for all of us. It was good fun!

[@jimclark5037]

He might have to buy some bitcoin first to do that!

[@josepheveson6187]

I’ve never seen a guitar video that perfectly encapsulates what it’s like to be a guitarist before 😂

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

You could eliminate reason #5 by purchasing a larger home. With the larger home, you could have an entire floor devoted to your guitar collection.

[@nigelbullock4411]

Great post, just makes me smile. Nice to know we are all thinking the same! Look forward to episode two.

[@lesdunn736]

2021 Excellent reasons Get straight to the point. Perfect.

[@teslapete4461]

😂🤣😂😁😂😂🤣🤣 I wonder how many people have a thumbs down and went to the video after reason #10? I loved this!! I have a bunch of nice guitars both acoustic and electric including a $7000 custom built McKnight acoustic and went to play a brand new 2018 D18e Retro and ummm yeah I got it. I was absolutely blown away. Thanks for the hilarious video

[@jagaderolls]

I put Martin Guitars onto this video and they loved it. I don't need a reason "not to buy a D-18", I want one really badly just can't afford one.

[@yimanishi]

Thank you for such a funny yet convincing remarks. I just bought a D-18 thanks to you!

[@RubenDanielMusic]

Hahaha, I didn't expect this kind of video when I clicked. Awesome man:)

[@larryadams1873]

Awesome video sir! Love the ending. I’ve done the “talking myself out of buying another guitar” too many times to remember. My wife did buy me a Martin 000 RS 1. It’s not up to your level but at least SHE bought it for me.

[@bobsmith-ji2uh]

I couldn’t justify buying my D-28 a few years ago but did it anyway. It really made it a lot easier to pull the trigger on a D-18 a couple of weeks ago.

[@guitarman3396]

Got one for my birthday today. Sounds and plays great

[@303Estates]

Loved your video! Great job! My dad gave me his 1952 D-18... and what a great tone it has!! My most cherished gift ever!

[@bradadrianwilliams9399]

The guitar doesn’t make the player Be thankful for being able to play That’s the gift

[@kevinmills7067]

I have a sweet Hd-28V but I still needed a D-18. Just got one for Christmas.

[@waynejones7743]

I have laughed so hard. You speak to the truth. Thanks for explaining to my wife better than I could have!

[@Tonetwisters]

Laughter abounding! Great job on that one ... And that Triple Ought and the NEW D-18 (Reason#0) will sound better than any of them after 25 or 30 years, as their brightness tones down to fat, full, thick, sweet honey ... Course, you might not have 25 or 30 years ... Make sure you know Jesus before you go to the store ...

[@GeorgePossley]

That D18 REALLY sounded good in the music store so.......I have 6 Taylors, 2 Martins and a couple others. Never enough.

[@spare7400]

You dont know this, but back when i first started playing guitar back in 2014 on my "stagg" guitar looking object, i used to watch your videos all the time to learn, especially strumming. Im now a lot further along, so thanks George :)

[@GeorgePossley]

You are so welcome and what a kindness you have bestowed on me. Thank you so much! When I started playing in the late 60's, you had to buy a book with chords and lyrics in it and it would be full of songs that I still can't play. KZbin is such a blessing for musicians young and old. Many of the songs I cover now I learn by watching the video a few times before I crank it out and upload. Again, my sincere thanks!

[@philipstafford4540]

Life’s too short to stop getting new guitars!

[@2write2sing2dance]

I'm so jealous!

[@pharmerdavid1432]

@@philipstafford4540 Life's too short to waste chasing after new guitars....it's like finding a good woman (or man if you're a woman). One is all you need..!!

[@kennybluet5527]

When it came to # 1, we're glad you saw it our way

[@strummerali]

I love this. I first saw the title and went "whaaaat", someone has come up with reasons not to buy a Martin, I have to watch this".... So funny. BTW I love your guitars.

[@mragunathan1627]

wheres part 2 , i wanna see you unbox your new baby! Great video, i had a great time watching it.

[@davemalone3820]

Hilarious! I have wanted a Marin all my life. I finally satisfied that want with the purchase of a beautiful Martin DRS1. I got her for $465 with free shipping. A 2013 model in excellent shape!

[@Tonetwisters]

Well, I own an '89 Gibson J-200, which is great to back vocals. But those D-18's can be really sweet!

[@dongillette2759]

This cracked me up. I just went through the same thing when Gibson re-issued the 70's model J-50. Already have one so I put it off, put if off, put it off... now the limited edition is sold out and I'm kicking myself.

[@gingerbeer914]

I recently got myself a real one from the early 1970s and it's an amazingly good guitar. There are some nice J-50s on Reverb. The one with the black guard that shows the bracing through the top wood is just like mine. They're worth the €1500.- you pay for for them used.

[@chrisb9740]

Great video. I currently have 7 Martins - but alas not a D18. May have to go to the shop tomorrow.

[@Tonetwisters]

Been at this for 57 years and one of the best sounding guitars I have ever heard, was a really old Martin D-18 ... they have the ability to get thick-sounding, while retaining their highs, which maple and rosewood will not always do.

[@CPaiva99]

He convinced me!👊I need one badly ! thx for the post !

[@geoffwales8646]

I enjoyed this so much.

[@jswearengen7109]

Dude, hilarious. Well done. Thanks for the laugh.

[@peetyw8851]

I agree. Well acted and produced. I’ve got the bug, too. Thanks!

[@lanfordjohnson8884]

I just bought a D18 two days ago and I see this video. I’m glad I watched till the end

[@Pinoysoundmachine74]

You definitely have the best Martin guitars a man could owned, but without the D18’s you’re missing the holy grail on your guitar collection. If i have the money to spend all i could ever need is the Martin D18.

[@timlilly]

Sweet man, brilliant video. Actually I only have a 000-18 and was drawn to your video to find out why I should not buy the D18

[@bradsparks6008]

All fun and games untill he said he could've brought bitcoin 2 Years ago 😳

[@shawnsnow6413]

Lol. I was thinking the same thing. That one hurt.

[@delamerressac1067]

Thk you bud.You gave me the perfect reason to buy a D28👍👍👍👍

[@tps607]

man...you need to have a garage sale and get rid of some of those...I'll be there!

[@jeffmorrison3479]

Thats is funny stuff! I love my martin d18 and my Taylor 410. Im lucky to be able to have both in my wheel house.

[@NOTSOCOOLDUDE]

If it's good enough for Gordon Lightfoot, it's good enough for me!

[@seanbon74]

Richard Mundane amen

[@erikkohl]

GREAT COMMENTARY-I laughed heartily along with every honest viewer. But, I can't resist putting in real reason #1 for not buying the next guitar on my list...It is so painful to pick one and turn away from all the others on my list!

[@joeveland3408]

Wonderful video. I agree with all ten reasons, own comparable guitars and just bought another Martin two days ago. Thanks for the advice!

[@Jeronimo.67]

Is that a 314CE Taylor? I had one come to me for new frets and a set up. A proper set up on these involves throwing away the synthetic saddle (that not only sounds crappy but is also badly intonated) and making a new saddle from high grade bone or ebony. I used ebony on this particular guitar and the results were stellar. It already has an ebony bridge and pins, so why not ebony saddle? Oh and chuck the elixirs and install a set of Newtone roundcore heritage series strings. Do that for your Martins as well. You will thank me. ;-)

[@jonathanpalmer2923]

Love this guy

[@teumuarikit601]

My favourite video. I keep coming back to watch it. Yeah I bought a D18.

[@Michiel1972]

Hmmm... Mark Knopfler writes almost all his songs on a D18. And he happen to have a D28 also. Anyway, I received my D18 today. :-)

[@firdausHITMAN]

Cool. How did you know Mark Knopfler writes all his songs on a D18? I’ve seen a D18 I really like, and I have a D28. Wondering if I should bust my savings and buy it

[@Michiel1972]

@@firdausHITMAN there is a documentary in which he says it. I'm not sure in which one, cause I am a huge Knopfler fan and I have seen so many, but I think he said it in this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/naGxh2h7eMqDnZo

[@Michiel1972]

@@firdausHITMAN If you have a D28 I don't think you'll need a D-18 also. The D28 is also a high-end guitar. Anyway, Knopfler made some comments on it in interviews too. Like this one "The guitar I’ve been playing more than any other over the past few years is a D-18 Martin from 1935." - Mark Knopfler: www.vintageguitar.com/18181/mark-knopfler-3/

[@firdausHITMAN]

@@Michiel1972 Thanks a lot buddy. Appreciate it.

[@firdausHITMAN]

@@Michiel1972 Really enjoyed reading the article. Any more info always welcomed. many thanks

[@dirlogic]

Excellent! I needed that... made me smile. Heading down to the local guitar shop now...

[@mr.sixstring6394]

Admit it, you made this to flex on us didn’t you?

[@azcoyote007]

Nicely done! My D-18 has been an inspiration to play.

[@davidgrason161]

This was hillarious! I loved it! As for the wife, I think you could easily sneak in as many guitars as you would want. You're at a point where I don't even think YOU can keep up with them all. LOL But beware! She might be sneaking some of them out.

[@GuitarSmith.]

Ok really well done, I subscribed to your channel. At The Podium we never called her your wife, she's the Finance Committee.

[@fuzzyjax]

😂😂. I was hoping he was going to talk me out of it. 😂

[@janullmannmusic]

made my day! Great video - love it!! I'll definately go to the shop this week and buy a D-18 ;-)

[@AlexMielnik]

THIS IS FUNNY!!! Can't wait to see your new baby! I'm sure you and your lovely wife caved!! We've all gone through this self consuming debate!

[@gryfandjane]

Good stuff. I’ve owned my D-18 for over 30 years.

[@buttheyreinvestmentsdear3132]

I’ve just shared this with my wife. Reason? I have a Gibson Les Paul in Ocean Blue on the way. I think I got away with as it matches her beautiful blue eyes. I have a d18 by the way. Lol

[@valbastiancontraio2795]

Reason number 1 _you don't play the guitar - 2-you can't afford it 3-you prefer another brand 4-you are in jail 5-you don't like dreadnoughts 6 you can afford a better one 7 you don't want anyone to know you got rich 8 you prefer to buy it when you are a better guitar player 9 you don't want your young children to touchit 10 you already own one ....these are real reasons

[@vedder10]

This was so fun to watch. Great sense of humor, great life, and great taste in guitars.........and women.

[@gregweber3387]

Just bought my first Martin in April 2023; a D-X2E. Really enjoying it both acoustically and with my amp. 🎸

[@olasride3013]

My first guitar was a D 18. Still have it. Bought for one hundred fifty dollars in Salt Lake City in 1980 from a guy in a traveling folk group. I later used it exclusively for slide. I was down from Sun Valley Idaho for my cousin's wedding. I had to borrow the money from my aunt.

[@uspsdaveable]

This was great, I don’t own a Martin ...yet , but I have 10 brothers and sisters waiting at home .

[@ia5662]

Haha, I was gonna say, out of all those, I STILL prefer the D-18! I've been to the Martin Factory many times having the privilege of living in PA and out of all their models, expensive and cheap, my two absolute favorites are the D-18 and then the D-15M after that. So beautiful in their simplicity and so soulful in their tones. No need for the flashy looks, all tone!

[@alabastardmasterson]

Loved my d15 until my wife knocked it off a chair and it turned into kindling. Great guitar but super fragile

[@mandarin98]

I HAD to watch this since I couldn't think of any reasons and wondered what they could be 8-)

[@MrHockeydad154]

Hilarious!! Nothing like incurable GAS... Thanks for the laugh.

[@soylentgreen2065]

Thumbs up for creativity and execution ☺☺

[@briano.5746]

Always cool to see another Jerry fan ! PEACE

[@joevannucci1392]

I opted to get a D18GE instead of a HD28. The D18 is crisp, open, airy. Breathy. The low notes are like a bucketful of cool, clear water, from a very deep well.

[@davidburch4165]

Nothing like spruce and mahogany -- a dry, airy tone.

[@darrenc8776]

Nice very good. You only live once!!! You do have some excellent guitars.

[@jamesjones-rp6cl]

Absolutely hilarious !!! HOW COULD I LIVE IN PHILADELPHIA, PA AND NOT BUY A D-18 ??? I have a 2018 Martin D-18 And out of the 8 Guitars I own it is my #1 guitar !!! Great Video !!! ESPECIALLY LOVE THE JERRY GARCIA PIC. IN THE BACK !!! STILL LAUGHING !! LOL THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS

[@piggyroo100]

One reasons not watch this video

[@davidburch4165]

This piece caught my eye because I just traded a carload of less-played guitars, basses & other stuff for a brand new D-18. My only regret is that I didn't do it 50 years ago.

[@azariah636]

Haha thanks for the laugh! A D-18 is my dream guitar!

[@redneckrosey8221]

Azariah Huskey If you haven’t bought you dream guitar give a Taylor 522 a go, best decision I made.

[@falkirkshelby2313]

How do you like the new D-28 reimagined?

[@trayvanderbilt1138]

Great sales pitch for Martin guitars .

[@theREDC0de]

What a precious video. Loved it. Thanks! :D

[@powertuber3.047]

You couldn't even buy one bitcoin for the price of a D-18.

[@gingerbeer914]

That's just a matter of time...

[@photondragonyoukay4597]

Well played good Sir. well played!!!

[@krashunburn]

I can think of just one. It costs too frickin' much money!

[@boddumblues]

It only cost too much one time, when you've bought it, it doesn't cost too much again XD !!

[@krashunburn]

​@@boddumblues I used to sell Martins. I have played everything from a D-45S to a D-45 12 string (which they don't make anymore) down to a T1 Ukulele. I think I know my Martins. They have a great sound right out of the box and I loved playing them, but they are still too expensive. A lot of the price is in the name, but if you want to blow five grand on one go for it.

[@boddumblues]

@@krashunburn I hear you. I got my first Martin 2 years ago for around 3000£ I chose between 20 Martins and found the one I wanted, so I'm new to giving out this kind of money, though I've been playing for 40+ years, and selling and doing repairs and more. That being said, when you show up with a brand name guitar it helps avoiding stupid discussions of gear, and people pay attention to your playing instead, and for that reason it adds practical value. the same goes for electrics. I mod and build to my own likings, but if I have to make an impression in a situation, I'm likely to bring a brandname guitar, because it shuts up the snobs and let's me play FWIW

[@BabyJesus66]

Are they expensive? Yes. But not really in the amount of enjoyment you can get out of it... Buy one and depending on your age you might own it 40 or 50 years. So even if you spend $5000 on it that's 8-10 bucks a month... Or 27 cents a day. I know my guitar is worth more than 27 cents a day to me.

[@philemonscorpio]

Customer: How many Guitars do I need ? Guitar Seller: ONE MORE !!!

[@bluemune2]

Well you know, You can have too many wives , but you can't have too many guitars .

[@Tonetwisters]

... and they all know when to be quiet, right? LOL's

[@noellesevidal1061]

makes sense sir, makes sense.

[@chester777ful]

The reason not to buy a d 18 is the price

[@thomaspick4123]

chet atkins And, there are no electronics. If you have an acoustic with a decent pickup, tuner, and eq, it is very simple and nice. I hate Martins because of the high prices. Taylor tries this bologna too. Taylor should go back to sewing clothes.

[@chester777ful]

I agree there are many guitars that are good copies that sound as good if not better than Martins and Taylors you are paying for a name as you say if you want a loud guitar turn the pickup up as long as you have a good action that all that matters thanks for your reply

[@davemalone3820]

I bought a Martin DRS1. Really good price and the sound is excellent! Oh, it comes with a really nice Fishman pickup in it.

[@IrreverendThomas]

You're right about the price, it's too cheap. Really need a Collings to get your money's worth.

[@gingerbeer914]

Go get a Blueridge BR-140A then. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3qxoKeDi9qia5o

[@stevemorse108]

I was getting ready to argue with you...ha ha cool video and nice humour....I had a Martin Eric Clapton signature 000 series which I thought was the ultimate instrument but then I tried a D-18 at a guitar show and it blew me away...it cost 2400$ less than my EC model but sounds better in every way; resonance, sustain, brightness, balance, projection and crystalline brightness....I have spent over 100,000$ on guitars and live in cramped living space a little like you it seems.....GAS is a terrible problem (spraaaaaaaattts!!!!!) but now I am down to four guitars a telecaster 51 heavily reliced custom shop telecaster with a humbucker, my D-18 Martin, an old but good classical guitar which has floated on water during an adventure trip down the MeKong river.I can get all the sounds I need.Peace brother and enjoy those cool guitars and appreciate your lovely and understanding wife.

[@burrinjabluesandroots7719]

Good man. Get yourself a D18 1939 Authentic! It'll sound better than all the others put together. I have a sensational Clarence White D28, and the D18 1939A just creams it.

[@gingerbeer914]

I tried it, and you're absolutely right. IF you buy a D-18, you should buy a 1939 Authentic. It's the best mahogany dreadnought available. The Clarence White D-28 is a rosewood guitar that is louder than a normal D-28, but that also goes for this D-28M Custom Artist Edition, which is made of Madagascar rosewood. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqKzeGlnlKxnnrM But... there are only 100 of them. The timbre of these guitars is always different from a mahogany guitar of course. If you have only good rosewood guitars you have every reason in the world to buy a good mahogany guitar, because certain songs demand mahogany for the more nasal mid tones. If you can afford it: go for the best!

[@Bluelightcheaphotel]

Those are all good reasons 😆. I tell myself (and my wife tells me) the 28 is all I need too. But then there’s the matter of the Duesenberg Alamo lap steep with hand benders, a telecaster with sweet pedals, a couple amps, the upright bass and a new Collings mandolin. Plus European mics and necessary components on the signal chain. Stringed obsessions are no laughing matter. Good luck to you sir, and I appreciate the love for Garcia

[@Alexander-mk4qf]

best guitar is old one..new ones are cost a lot and sound bad

[@wombat8622]

Yeah but old ones are way more expensive since they're old 😂

[@Alexander-mk4qf]

@@wombat8622 like you can buy 1986 stratocaster for 1000-2000k$ or you can buy super new exp mexican or china one model new 2016+ ..wich one u prefer? and yeah...if u are looking for gibsons ..they cost really a lot..but fenders and ibanez are cheaper..that not mean they are bad , fenders are more into singles, ibanez more in humbuckers if we talk about acoustic instruments...there is really high prices yea :)) but anyway u can get great japan wood and really short explanation if old guitar look good and sound good..that means shes survive like 20 or 40 years...when u buy new one..u never no how long she will live ..like mb half year :))

[@stinger223]

This video worked like a charm, I bought a D-18 at the beginning of this month.

[@solice8844]

Buy a Martin D-18GE instead.

[@flouisbailey]

Bitcoin is why I can afford and want a D18, also I’m a retired doctor who has worked years helping others and want to have some fun.

[@patrickclark3337]

There's two reasons not listed, they are over priced and you can get a just as good or better Guild D-55. Guild D-55, D-40,Gibson Hummingbird. Martin and Taylor are too expensive for what you get, both are nice guitars but I'd much rather have a D-55 Guild or Gibson Hummingbird or Songwriter. $10,000 for a guitar made recently is unacceptable unless it's made of gold and you won't find a Gibson or Guild in the standard catalog for that price but there's plenty of Martin's for that and much more.

[@Tonetwisters]

Yeh-yeh. ALL good guitars are overpriced. Been at this for 57 years +, and they have never been cheap. Buy what you want, want what you like. Most will hold their value and even increase. If you can afford it, buy it. Play it. Enjoy it. Most of all, thank the Lord Jesus for it. And play a song of two for Him once in a while ...

[@patrickclark3337]

@@Tonetwisters Not all are "overpriced" mostly what is popular and Taylor and Martin are popular. #1&#2 sellers of acoustic guitars. You can get a great solid wood guitar made in the US like a Guild D-40 for $1000ish. The only Martin in that price range is a laminate or has a richlite neck/fretboard or its made in China. Same with Taylor. Guild are making a comeback but they're priced decent right now. Sure Martin D-28 or 45 appreciates in value but they start out way over priced to begin with. I will stick with Guild, the D-55 will give an overpriced D-45 a run for the money. $7k-40k? Not worth half that, D-55 $3500 worth every penny.

[@RondelayAOK]

BIG Guild D-55 fan here! :)

[@chrishyde1216]

This made me laugh out loud. I eventually guessed the punchline but it was so well done, it still cracked me up.

[@sseltrek1a2b]

great guitars, but way too expensive...

[@BigBirbzMusic]

This video is classic. I happened to have guessed the #1 reason right around 9a. I have the same exact guitar 'problem'.

[@arthurkuntz1525]

you must have hit the lottery or daddy did it for you boy

[@ludlow3d]

I just lack sufficient sense of humor to have enjoyed this. I tried duct taping a chihuahua to my forehead, in hopes it would project my having more sense of humor. It failed, and chihuahuas also do not have a sense of humor. At any rate, I have a D-18 I bought in 1971, and a 00-18 bought around the same time. Marvelous instruments, and, with age, they smell so nice inside the soundhole. ARF!

[@flymdjets]

4:04 of my life I'm never getting back

[@Jazzmasterman32]

I have been avoiding this video because I had just purchased a D18 and didn’t want to hear anything bad about it... glad I watched 😂

[@GuitarlosCarlos]

JUST BUY THE DAMN THING THIS ISN'T EVEN FUNNY CARLOS GUITARLOS 90042

[@Tonetwisters]

I thought it was hilarious.

[@DeZomer35]

You don't find it funny. Speak for yourself thanks.

[@GuitarlosCarlos]

Yoeri De Zomer Zomer STHU THERE SQUARE

[@DeZomer35]

@@GuitarlosCarlos okay :)

[@mojoefelix]

Honestly, my reason is that I already owned a Martin D-18 in the 1970's. I didn't like it and so I sold it. Decades later I decided I would never buy another Martin. Since realized it is just dreads that I disdain. So I have an Martin OM and a Martin 000 12-fret now and really do like them quite a lot.

[@davidburch4165]

In the past I went through four dreadnoughts, including a Gibson, that soured me on the type. But I sat down at the local shop and played a D-18 and a Collings D-1 (pretty much the same guitar, but nearly twice the cost). The D-18 sustained longer and had less of that dreadnought muddle in the overtones. Now there is a new D-18 on the rack next to the OM and OO Martins I liked from the start. I just hope I live long enough and retain my hearing long enough to "play in" the D-18.