Why Darth Vader VS Yoda Isn't Even Close!

Darth Vader. Yoda. Two of the greatest Force Users in all of Star Wars, and at their best, each of them can make a pretty strong case for the most powerful being in all the galaxy.
And today, well we’re gonna put that to the test! Using each of these characters in their primes, and including Expanded Universe lore, not just the new Disney Canon, we’re gonna see which one comes out on top - and really, is the fight between them even close? Well lets get to it!
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[@DefileOdds]

Just because Anakin never reached his full potential, doesn't mean he didn't become more powerful after becoming Vader.

[@Nic-rk3hs]

Right vader would destroy anakin

[@TheMasonson]

Naw he definitely gotten weaker because not being of flesh.

[@animafia-family]

​@@TheMasonson His potential got cut, for sure. And upon receiving those Mustafar injuries, he was 100% weaker than Anakin. But when he got back on his feet and became accustomed to his suit, say a little before the Obi Wan show, Vader would have obliterated Anakin no question.

[@alexperezacevedo5888]

@@animafia-family While Anakin would be the "prime" version of Vader in terms of physical abilities, he wasn't as mature as Vader was. We also never saw the prime version of Yoda. We saw a Yoda that was past his prime. You can argue that Palpatine was afraid of Yoda, and that's the reason he did all the smoke and mirror tactics before the Jedi counsel was destroyed.

[@gruntgamer4204]

For some reason people seem to think Vader was weakened to 80% of Darth Sidious's max strength in the force when he lost his limbs and got burned. When in reality he was only weakened to 80% of his own max strength in the force which at 100% was literally DOUBLE the strength Darth Sidious had in the force. The only reasons Vader never defeated Sidious are because of his suits vulnerability to force lightning, and the fact he focused more on dueling than the force itself even after his injuries. If Vader has simply honed his potential in the force, he'd have annihilated Sidious.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Luke Skywalker watched both of them die in Return of the Jedi.

[@jordanfields3402]

Luke also watched R2-D2 take a blast to the dome in Star War Episode 4 and die. Although a droid can be rebuilt with its processor still in tact.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Yoda: Over, it is, young Skywalker. The high ground, I have. Darth Vader: You underestimate the power of the Dark Side! Yoda: Try it, do not!

[@Mimic-45]

"Do or do not, there is no try."

[@teaandwinewithmira3301]

I’ve seen you mostly on anime related content. I guess your getting into Star Wars

[@Night-RunnerEditz]

@@teaandwinewithmira3301 yea I’m slowly getting into Star Wars

[@IzDeninskovich]

I imagine it kind of funny tho that anakin and Yoda would be the same height if it was Yoda that jumped to the higher spot

[@ziphelelekhumalo9429]

😂😂

[@ultimatemagneto3354]

No, Vader wasn't the most powerful in the galaxy during the revenue of the sith. Sidious said he (Anakin) would become more powerful than either he and Yoda. Which would've been true... Had he not fight obi wan on Mustafar. But at that particular time no he wasn't the most powerful in the galaxy. Vader hadn't reached his peak. He was still an infant in the dark side when revenge of the sith took place.

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

True but by ROTJ he was more powerful than yoda but still weaker than sidious since they both grew in power substantially since ROTS

[@johnarcher9480]

@@tvvistedv3nom26 Originally, Vader was always more powerful than Sidious. He didn’t have to obey his master because of any threat of violence, it was the pact he made with Sidious and the dark side. Lucas film repeatedly confirmed Vader was the Ultimate fighter. Bar none.

[@themightofgeburah5882]

Lets look at the facts The Novels confirm that if Luke didn’t stop Vader and Sidious then the Jedi would have been finished. Lego Star Wars confirms that Suit Vader is stronger than Dooku who stalemates Yoda. Star Wars Comics and Shows confirm that Darth Vader and Sidious are the most powerful individuals in the Galaxy. Sidious toyed with Yoda and Yoda exiled himself when he realized this. Suit Vader nearly CRUSHED Sidious when he got put in the suit and found out Padmé died. The fact that Luke is the last hope of the Galaxy should tell you that Yoda was not on Vader’s Tier. Obi Wan in the New Hope Movie is stronger than Yoda and has a precise mastery over the usage of The Force. Sam Witwer had said that Obi Wan’s narrative was to be the strongest defense in the Galaxy. Look at how that worked out against Vader? Exactly. Sidious heavily implied that he held back against Yoda in Order 66 saying he only uses the Lightsaber to spite and insult Jedi. I can only potentially see Yoda beating Suited Vader in Pre-ANH Era before Vader’s powers begin reawakening where’s he’s stated stronger in Empire Strikes Back and stronger in Return Of The Jedi. Darth Vader would dominate Yoda, especially ESB and ROTJ.

[@hermanjohnson9180]

​@@johnarcher9480 I was thinking the same

[@moabman6803]

No Yoda was far more powerful than Sideous. The only reason he lost was because he fell and the clones were coming to the senate chamber. So he would be outnumbered if he stuck around.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Yoda has many centuries of experience.

[@consciousgentile5141]

Who had more experience? Annakin or Dooku

[@csc4781]

@@consciousgentile5141Anakin had to tap into the dark side to defeat Dooku

[@TheRealTaolf]

@@csc4781Anakin still wasn’t far off from him because they had already fight a number of times before during the war

[@TheRealTaolf]

@@csc4781but you’re still right tho 👍🏾

[@csc4781]

@@TheRealTaolf you’re right as well 👌🏿

[@Night-RunnerEditz]

So Yoda beats him cause he has more experience, is the better fighter, and because he’s insanely agile and fast

[@ashmyblunt]

Not even

[@BlazerK1914]

Yoda: “I will, if Obi Wan cannot finish you.” Darth Vader: “If my master can’t destroy you, I will.”

[@taylorgallion2748]

Yoda would win. He is too smart and studied. Mastered everything over centuries. Plus he is crazy fast when he needs to be. His force power is too strong. His absorb and telekinesis. No way he loses this fight. Maybe on his deathbed, but in his prime. No way.

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Nine-Tailed Fox vs. Godzilla

[@Fourthaboveall]

I like this matchup indeed.

[@ojt759]

10 tails would make more sense

[@Geozone117]

Godzilla shits on the fox.

[@anthonyewing457]

I don’t think that any force user has even been more powerful than Yoda. He’s the only Jedi that stopped force lightning with his hands. Young Anakin was super powerful especially after he first turned but he lost to Obi Wan. Yoda said that Obi Wan wasn’t powerful enough to beat Sidious. Yoda losing to Sidious was plot armor. Sidious tried to exit rather than fight Yoda.

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

Sidious is more powerful in the force than yoda but yoda is definitely the better duelist

[@anthonyewing457]

@@tvvistedv3nom26 would you mind explaining your rationale?

[@markykrajky13]

@@anthonyewing457 Read the canon comics Sidous is the strongest character by far in canon, he drove dominated a kaiju and was able to withstand the blasts of star heat in the comics

[@samruhland848]

@@tvvistedv3nom26 I’m not too convinced palpatine is more powerful than yoda, palpatine needed force lightening to push yoda in the beginning of their fight which yoda was capable of blocking but he didn’t react fast enough the first time to he got sent to the wall. Yoda simply pushed palpatine back into the chair and then sidious tried to run. He ran away from him again in their duel he realized he was likely going to lose eventually if he kept deuling him so he ran to the Senate chamber to throw the pods at him. Sidious prepared for that moment in the novelization he had a plan and home turf adavantage. If he fought yoda on solid neutral ground I really don’t see any way sidious wins in the end. Sorry for the essay but that’s just my thought process on those characters and what happened in their fight

[@CrimsonReapa]

@@markykrajky13 sidious is the strongest living sith during the events of star wars, he isn't the strongest sith of all though as that title goes to the 1st sith emperor valqoriant who became so OP that for the 1st and only time in history the sith and jedi orders had to team up to jump him and even that was not enough to beat him, it wasn't until the force itself turned against valqoriant that he was finally overwhelmed during the final battle and defeated/destroyed, just to give you a idea on how OP valqoriant is/was at age 6 he was able to instantly defeat a full fledged sith lord with a single thought and via force manipulation he literally willed it so that sithlord could never use/connect to the force again rendering him a regular person and as a adult he could use mind domination on entire planets to instantly enslave them then make the entire population of that world commit mass suicide and this once included a army of 8,000 other sith lord he lured to the planet along with a unspecified sized army of jedi (was atleast in the thousands) that was sent to investigate and deal with all the sith after they received reports a army of sith lords was amassing on that planet, he also had the ability to basically pull a galactus and literally devour/drain all the force energy/life force of all living things on a planet which he used to increase his own power and life span thousands if times over, now going to the sequel comics both luke and laya eventually become the 2 strongest recorded jedi in history and strongest mortal/non cosmic beings which includes anakin/vader and palpatine along with yoda, although it was recently revealed in the new ashoka series that after anakin/vader died at some point anakain/vader finally fulfilled "the fathers" request and replaced him as the new keeper of balance of the force and also the fact anakain/vader has awakened his full chosen one potential and is now most likely the strongest being we have ever seen in SWs history, there are also other cosmic beings like the 5 emotion priests and the father,son and daughter who are shown in the clone wars and in the comics theres another cosmic being known as the mother of chaos who eventually will fight luke and a army of jedi and sith after she escapes her prison, the comics also talk about unexplored and/or forbidden zones where very powerful force wielding cosmic entities dwell that have powers far surpassing non cosmic beings, we may actually get to see the mother soon who goes by the name of abeloth as the recent/new ashoka series seems to be following a storyline thats from the comics that led to her escape from her prison and rampage in the galaxy, all of these characters/beings i have mentioned make even palpatine look weak

[@toddkurzbard]

This is even a question? Master Yoda BODIES Vader.

[@comixof2morrow]

Considering Obi Wan beat Anakin/Vader twice... I'd say Yoda would make Vader look like an amateur

[@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979]

-Why Nightwing vs Captain America is not even close. -Why MCU Daredevil vs John Wick is closer than you think.

[@thanos8914]

Closer it is not reality must you face

[@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979]

@thanos8914 It is close. Daredevil is esentially fighting another Punisher (with minor differences and arguably more accurate)...and Matt didn't do so hot against Frank at the begining of season 2.

[@soulbrother1143]

Daredevil couldnt beat the punisher and had his hands filled with kingpin

[@ihavegymnastics]

Daredevil would wipe the floor with all-that-I-do-is-fancy-aikido Wick....

[@GeneralShermansMarch]

Yoda reminded Luke that the dark side was easier, not stronger. Yoda earned his power the correct way. Fundamentals, discipline, knowledge, experience, technique...Yoda had everything but size

[@grimaldusgonzalez6122]

Size, matters not

[@les4767]

Actually, Yoda wins without even drawing his lightsaber...he uses the Force to shut of Vader's power supply to his suit! Vader suffocates and dies!

[@cassianomota8574]

Yoda absorbs lightning but he doesn't use it since its a dark side force. He CAN counter it but that's only after absorbing it.

[@disruptor109]

Dude, IF you watched episode IV's lightsaber duel between Vader and Obi Wan, you'd clearly see that Obi wan sacrificed himself during the duel. Vader didn't beat him. Obi wan became a force ghost, Vader's blade hit NOTHING!

[@urukadooedwards7637]

That's what I thought. Just dissappeared.

[@kirkdavis2881]

He sacrificed himself because he couldn't win.

[@ferdinandgonzalez7407]

Older Obi let Vader win because he knew Luke was watching.

[@Tkyoking]

I’m pretty sure it’s stated anakin was conflicted on mustafar so he wouldn’t be at full power the one that attack the Jedi temple is probably his apex before Vader

[@mistermyself1128]

Anikin and Luke had 6 weeks of training combined, and people keep comparing them to 800+ years. Wow.

[@Thought-bot]

What Obi-Wan did against Grievous, Yoda can do in a split second.

[@VictorVonDoom.]

I’d do to Yoda and Vader what Sidious did to Maul and Savage Opress, but easier You may now give thanks to DOOM

[@BradleyLodge]

Definitely You'd embarrass them All hail DOOM

[@messiahep3249]

noone said vader was faster than the emperor, where are you getting all this from

[@messiahep3249]

so many incorrect statements in this video

[@planetdee3587]

Host: Anakin was suppose to have the most potential of anybody. Grogu: Hold my lightsaber..... hey! Give that back, what do you expect me to fight with.

[@thebeast9606]

When Vader wanted to hunt down Yoda, Palpatine told him that Yoda would have killed him as Anakin AND as Vader. Also, Sidious actually said Vader "will be" more powerful than them, thus, he wasn't quit there yet.

[@johncampbell3390]

There is ove extremely important aspect of Vader you are missing. The constant battles he had to fight. Take a fit guy in his prime, hitting a bag in a gym and a street guy fighting every day for survival. Most of the time, the street guy is going to win. Getting hit isn't natural. The more you fight and get hit, the more you can take. I'm not saying Vader would win, but it's closer than you think.

[@darrenskjoelsvold]

Yoda used the force to drive his light saber. His dualing was through the will of the force not his physical prowess.

[@jones_da9005]

I think Yoda’s fast Ataru fighting style and the fact that he is probably the most experienced force user in the whole galaxy will make him win

[@Doug5614]

The only reason why Yoda didn't go to Mustafar himself to stop Anakin is because he would have been sending Obi-Wan to his death to face and square off against Sidious. Even though Anakin had off the charts power when he finally fully connected with the dark side, he would have made fatal mistakes facing Yoda. Yoda had the clear advantage of centuries of knowledge in the force over Anakin. Yoda would have defeated him and finished him off. Probably would have cut off his head in a final blow. Especially after reviewing the files and seeing what Anakin had done in the Jedi Temple. Yoda knew Anakin was nobody to underestimate.

[@jgale2590]

If Vader didn't get his limbs cut off and wasn't on a constant life support system. Maybe he would have a chance against the grandmaster.

[@ericmanso7355]

I always said this about Yoda, but the sad part is Obi-Wan was too weak to fight palpatine

[@michaelluchansky4480]

Mace would have beat Sidious if Anakin had not Butted in !!

[@markfrank5937]

There's a reason Sidious didn't want to see Yoda.

[@owenscott6159]

Rancor vs skullcrawler

[@themainflow7137]

Skull crawler low-mid diff

[@ultimatemagneto3354]

That being said the verdict is right. There's no way Vader is beating Yoda. One of the advantages Vader has on most of his opponents is that they don't know his Identity. Yoda knows who Vader is just like obi wan. And as we saw in the dark Knight rises when bane called out Batman's true Identity... It takes away from the Mystique.

[@craigcampbell5590]

If Yoda faught Vader on Mustaffa, I think he might've been able to save him. Obi was too close to him. Yoda's a bit like his great, great, great grandfather

[@GregUtz98]

Obi-Wan actually basically surrendered by choice. He wasn't beaten in the last fight at least not in the classic sense of being beaten.

[@silverpc4611]

Obiwan was about 10 years older then Anakin and would have been in his 50's in a New Hope. While I like Alec Guiness he was almost to old, it was more like he was playing a 70 or 80 year old.

[@andrewgeorgecomeau4066]

How can you say that Vader is most powerful at the point when he didn't even know the Darkside yet. He was a Sith that had t even been through any of the things that gave him his strength in the darkside.

[@mikielsahagun6054]

Hulk, Capt America, Hawk eye, Black Widow, Iron man Vs 50 Zinomorphs

[@pike100]

The Avengers would win fairly easily.

[@rickross5512]

It's time for a" WHAT IF" Star wars series.

[@kimbelsimpson7535]

Yoda also has 900 years experience training Jedi and is also a Jedi Grandmaster.

[@hotfunyunsop6196]

It's wild how many casuals think Vader is weaker than anakin

[@LeonardoTyrone-sr4qz]

12:36 I knew Yoda wins

[@fictionrumble]

Yoda destroys Vader

[@DavidJ-ty5jm]

😂🤣😂🤣

[@fictionrumble]

@@DavidJ-ty5jm fact

[@DavidJ-ty5jm]

@@fictionrumble SO you think

[@fictionrumble]

@@DavidJ-ty5jm yes

[@Toosick10]

Bro Yoda gets whooped by Vader 💀

[@christopherbusenkell8633]

why wasn't the emperor insistent on finding and killing yoda, the leader of the jedi? seems like he would've been the most important to make sure is dead?

[@chevin0]

Vader got overall more powerful once he was in the suit, but Yoda would have had an easier time with him. and even on Mustafar, Yoda would have bent him over almost immediately

[@brodiwebb6996]

But in the comics it is stated Darth Vader surpassed his younger self.

[@The_Lone_Wanderer_101]

Vader became way more powerful in both dueling and the force after ROTS he also got smarter and wiser in the force and his tactics, ROTS Vader was just the start and although injured at the end he still gained in power

[@generalkaiproductions8680]

Anakin was no where near at his full potential in the mustafar duel

[@michaelluchansky4480]

Anikin’s arrogance was his downfall!!

[@user-bk5nj1qo6n]

The Jedi held him back on a lot of ways to help him understand and how to train and use his powers he was destined to get. As he turned he was feeling a power that he knew was powerful but at the same time he really didn't understand them yet, didn't know how to really use them or even know just how many things he was going to be able to do. That's because the Jedi between not trusting in him,fear, and I think even some jealousy. By this age they should have had him at the temple with Yoda,obi wan or at least another really powerful master to guide him through the learning of these unbelievable powers he was already near having at full potential. But no they chose to ignore him,not do the things he really needed to be the chosen one as they built him up since he was a kid. How do you not take the most Powerful of any Jedi to ever live,not just the Jedi but powerful then any sith also. How do you just ignore him and yet,make him be around, and alone with a Chancellor that none of you trust , how. The only thing that kept obi wan alive was the conflict Anakin was fighting inside himself the whole time they fought. If it wasn't,he would have killed obi wan pretty fast because one thing he did understand with the lightsaber and dueling. If he had killed obi wan,that would have pushed any other feelings for the Jedi out of his mind. If he then fought Yoda, Yoda would have had to flip and jump like crazy just to try and keep p from getting hit by the saber and that would tire him out fast and then he would be killed. It's sad how this whole story is but the Jedi made him turn more then anything else. All the things they pulled and done against him and the Jedi codes were terrible. Even his Master and father figure does a forbidden strike on him that leaves him without his arms and legs. Think about that,all the shit that they had done the last and most betrayal one could do,is a move that isn't allowed and forbidden is done to him. I'm sure Anakin and anyone else would rather have been killed then left that way and to make things worse. He has to feel the torture of being burned almost to death as he's being watched. Yeah it's pretty terrible if you really think about everything that actually went down with him.

[@ultimatemagneto3354]

Second, no he didn't. Vader did not defeat obi wan in a new hope. Obi wan gave himself up and become one with the force before Vader could strike him down. Obi wan didn't fight Vader with the intent on beating him. It was another lesson obi wan needed to teach his old Padawan. In reality, obi wan is 3-0 against Vader. 3-0 against maul, but 0-2 against Dooku. Quite a resume if you ask me.. And I didn't even mention Grevious.

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

The novel states otherwise. He was too weak at that point physically to withstand Vader. Also all the other times he won were due to anakin’s inner conflict and on mustafar his arrogance. Plainly just plot armor as even Lucas explained anakin was above Kenobi by ROTS. He was only behind mace and yoda out of the Jedi by that time and obviously behind sidious

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Disney destroys both of them.

[@averyce2]

FACTS

[@trevorbellamy9755]

Disney's fan fiction? XD

[@cookieDaXapper]

...Battle Front 2, Vader always routes Yoda in hero v.s. hero battles. In cannon Yoda fought Sideous and Obi Wan fought Vader because they had to clean up the "messes" that their neglect and short shortsightedness created.

[@pike100]

Canon*, not cannon

[@BourbonondaBayou]

They did fight once, in an alternate universe comic. It was a reimagining of Empire Strikes Back. Vader kills Yoda in a duel. Not easily, but does win

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Can you rank every fighter from the Ip Man franchise?

[@mikielsahagun6054]

Darth Maul vs Psylock Darth Sidious vs Jean Gray General Grievous vs Nebula Shredder vs Predator

[@pike100]

Phoenix over Darth Sidious.

[@matthiasdueholm7248]

Actually thinking about it, it is insanely impressive that Yoda have been on the front line of the galaxy defending and fighting for 900 some years, he still got all his limb, no clibbling injuries and still going strong. Where Anakin have got himself chopped up multiple times before 30 years old! I mean just that is saying something in it self!

[@Johnadams20760]

very accurate. now if anikin had never got all messed up and kept training, he would have beatne sids and yoda at his full potential

[@reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134]

Yoda Cake Walks post cybernetics Vader hands down 🔥

[@TheDjbenton]

Mace Windu vs Count Dooku

[@kenb2671]

Mace beat Darth Sidious with his lightsaber style. Dooku would lose the same way.

[@HatsStayUnited]

FP Luke and Anakin > Prime Yoda?? = ROTJ Sidious > Rots Sidious = Prequel Yoda > Prime Vader > KFV > ROTS Anakin > ROTJ Luke > AOTC Anakin

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

I see nothing but 100% facts (prime Yoda would probably be around TESB actually. Many fans think Yoda’s prime is way before the movies because that would be his physical prime. However, Yoda continues to grow in power and skill, even after ROTS, which makes him a superior combatant overall compared to his younger versions)

[@HatsStayUnited]

@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner Yoda’s body by the time of TESB was confirmed to have grown very sick. He was holding himself together with the force to train Luke. There’s also statements in a couple prequel era novels that imply that Yoda even then was slowing in combat as well as not having as much of a command over the force due to age. Remember yoda would’ve been the equivalent of someone in their late 80’s by the time of the prequels.

[@thenegativeone7806]

​​​​@@HatsStayUnitedNa Prime Vader > Revenge Yoda. In Legends it is stated that Vader has 80% of Sidious Power. But the Power from Return of the Jedi Sidious Return of the Jedi Sidious >>>>>> Revenge Yoda So Prime Legends Vader > Revenge Yoda But Prime Yoda > Prime Vader Prime Sidious > Prime Yoda In Disney Canon Vader is more powerful than Yoda in every case. This is stated in the Vader Comics and in the new disney canon books.

[@andrecarter4118]

Yoda just by"Experience*

[@alecjackman2655]

Is your claim that Vader was faster than the Emperor made off that one scene is lords of the Sith novel where Vader blocked Palpatine’s strike? If so there’s important context of knowing the Vader confirmed that the Emperor was only using a fraction of his power that day a wanted to appear weaker than he actually was inorder to test Vader’s loyalty. It’s more than likely Palpatine could be MUCH faster than he was showing off in that moment.

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

In Disney Canon, Darth Vader wins. He didn’t lose any force power after Mustafar, so he just continued growing in power. I’d say Yoda still has more skill in lightsaber duelling, but Canon Vader is so much more powerful in the force that he likely beats Yoda, especially when we consider his advantages in strength and durability. However, in Legends, Yoda absolutely gigastomps Vader. ROTS Senate Yoda is already fast enough to speed blitz tf out of Vader, his advantage in duelling skill is even bigger than it is in Canon, and Yoda is easily more powerful in the force. In legends, Vader did become less powerful after ROTS, which forced him to adapt and change his fighting style a lot. Vader did become a better duellist and was way smarter than he is in ROTS, but he still had a lot of catching up to do after Mustafar. Still, yoda is more powerful by feats, is a much better duellist, and the speed gap is insane. ROTS Senate Yoda is fast enough to match (and arguably outpace) ROTS Post Order 66 Darth Sidious, who’s faster and more agile than ROTS Pre Order 66 Darth Sidious, who was fast enough to duel mace Windu at such insane speeds that ROTS Anakin Skywalker couldn’t even perceive him and mace (they appeared to be flickering in and out of existence from his PoV), and Anakin is faster and more agile than ROTJ Vader due to not having the heavy suit weighing him down. So Yoda blitzes tf out of him. And keep in mind that this is just ROTS Senate Yoda. Yoda continues to grow in power, skill, versatility, and knowledge after ROTS, till reaching his absolute peak in TESB. TESB Yoda handwaves Vader easily.

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

If you go by Disney canon then Vader is a better duelist than yoda since they made a statement that Vader is the best duelist of all time

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

And yeah in the EU Yoda beats him but if we go by Lucas canon I think Vader can win at least in the force but in saber combat he’ll lose if he doesn’t use the force to assist him. By ROTJ Vader definitely grew more powerful than yoda

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@tvvistedv3nom26I don’t go by baseless statements, I go by their actual demonstrated feats and abilities. Star Wars fans are perhaps the worst when it comes to vs debates cause all Star Wars fans do is cherry pick statements to form their arguments. I can easily give you canon statements that yoda is the best duelist in canon. But by feats and abilities, yoda has centuries of duelling training and refinement over Vader, mastered the seven forms to a greater degree, has trained better duellists, and has better feats against more skilled fighters. Canon Vader has struggled in lightsaber combat against foes vastly less skilled than yoda. So yeah I’d rather have yoda’s skill than have a baseless statement from some little sourcebook. Lucas’s G-Canon is completely different from legends continuity. Lucas straight up confirmed this. In legends, yoda has better feats of power and has way more knowledge of the force

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

@@Wes_Bradley-Taubner Yeah, I just go by G canon.

[@Wes_Bradley-Taubner]

@@tvvistedv3nom26I mean, the thing is, G-Canon, Disney Canon, and Legends are all basically different continuities with different power levels for each of the characters. A might beat B in G-Canon and Legends, but not Disney Canon (Yoda vs Vader for example). A might beat B in Disney Canon and Legends, but not G-Canon (Old Ben Kenobi vs Qui Gon Jinn for example). It all depends on what versions of the characters being used in the vs battle. In a Legends battle like this one, G-Canon scaling isn’t relevant.

[@glennhouston5686]

His lack of experience and patience cost him his potential.

[@christopherbusenkell8633]

in the end then, what made luke so great? self control? if he had a jedi master to train him would luke have been better or just become a knight faster?

[@themightofgeburah5882]

Wait… people are still repping the idea that Yoda beats Darth Vader? The Novels confirm that if Luke didn’t stop Vader and Sidious then the Jedi would have been finished. Lego Star Wars confirms that Suit Vader is stronger than Dooku who stalemates Yoda. Star Wars Comics and Shows confirm that Darth Vader and Sidious are the most powerful individuals in the Galaxy. Sidious toyed with Yoda and Yoda exiled himself when he realized this. Suit Vader nearly CRUSHED Sidious when he got put in the suit and found out Padmé died. The fact that Luke is the last hope of the Galaxy should tell you that Yoda was not on Vader’s Tier. Obi Wan in the New Hope Movie is stronger than Yoda and has a precise mastery over the usage of The Force. Sam Witwer had said that Obi Wan’s narrative was to be the strongest defense in the Galaxy. Look at how that worked out against Vader? Exactly. Sidious heavily implied that he held back against Yoda in Order 66 saying he only uses the Lightsaber to spite and insult Jedi. I can only potentially see Yoda beating Suited Vader in Pre-ANH Era before Vader’s powers begin reawakening where’s he’s stated stronger in Empire Strikes Back and stronger in Return Of The Jedi.

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

Fact 100%

[@feline2322]

THANK YOU

[@nate7498]

You must really like the dark side. Yikes.

[@Darth-vade123]

Facts Vader's power is not to be underestimated

[@noahobrien-sf3zf]

yoda was clearly holding back against dooku, trying to turn him back o the light side. you can see in the fight how quickly dooku goes on the defensive. if he hadn't fled by using anakin and obi one as sacrifies he would have lost. ie if yoda didn't let dooku flee to save obi one and anakin.

[@SoN_oF_oDiN76]

Palpatine didn't like using light sabers. He preferred to use the force.

[@trevorbellamy9755]

Yoda can absorb anything the Emperor throws at him. So, it really comes down to Force use until exhaustion or a duel...

[@mr.starman8706]

Yeah, DanCo really dropped the ball. In Canon, it was blatantly established that Vader's injuries amplified his power in the force, not hindered them. Vader was even stated to be the most powerful sith in the galaxy, with one of said statements even being attributed to Vader not even a decade after Episode 3. Yoda at his prime was still a drop in the ocean that was Vader's power. In Legends, although Vader lost potential, he still remained immensely powerful, with material blatantly stating that Vader became stronger following his defeat on Mustafar. Vader wins, mid diff.

[@camthechameleon2577]

yeah all his loss on mustafar did was lower his ultimate potential but he increased his power in the dark side and even with his lowered potential he was still the most dominant force in the galaxy under the Emperor for a long time

[@orienmonterrosa]

He also forgot that vader is 80% of the emporers peak not the emporer in RotS. The emporers peak is way higher than RotS and Yoda lost to that emporer so there is no way he'd beat Vader imo.

[@madisonbordenave4869]

Was looking for this comment

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

Facts

[@thenegativeone7806]

​@@orienmonterrosaIn Legends Yeah. But in Canon he did not lost any of his Potential. Sidious stated in the Canon Books that vader is limited because of his mind not because of his injuries.

[@stevenoconnor5693]

I love how people add things that weren’t in the scripf

[@jaredglass2914]

Next vid *Why Kingpin vs Tobias Whale isn’t even close!*

[@scottmadoff7444]

i think don lemon could tell you when someone is in their prime how about prof. x vs. darth vader parasite vs. doomsday ultron vs. mecha godzilla hillary clinton vs. kamala harris (death battle)

[@braedonbourque8327]

I was literally thinking about this battle a yesterday because I wanted to see who would win

[@Lethandor38]

Why would he hide on Dagabah and live as an outcast hermit for 20 years if he could have easily taken out the Sith leadership?

[@Mimic-45]

Xenomorph (Alien) VS Runner (Alien 3) VS Newborn (Alien: Resurrection) VS Grid (Aliens vs. Predator) VS Predalien (Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem) VS Neomorph (Alien Covenant)

[@geromegalindo]

Some great points, I feel the same yoda comes out on top, but then he will have regrets. They should do a what if series on things like this.

[@realbarrylipscombjr]

Big Things come in small packages📦

[@fnaf1sout907]

"Size matters not."

[@fatherlesss]

Day 1 of asking DanCo to credit his sources

[@xero1048]

You know what, I think for once I’d like to see a fight on this channel that actually is close

[@AndrewDavis-sj6mb]

Which force will overcome the other-That's what to ponder the most about.

[@connerwhite2770]

Why tf does he say young sky walker is better then prime vadar he obviously doesnt know lore and comics darth vadar slain over hundreds of jedi just on a quest for 1 his old master accomplishing feats to make him in this topic at all because i would bever put yound anikan vs yoda any day he lost to obi wan who is not the best dueling jedis not even in the top five i would put asoka over obi wan

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

I agree yoda would beat anakin but anakin didn’t lose to Kenobi because of skill. Lucas made it clear anakin was above Kenobi in every way and was only behind mace and yoda by ROTS he lost due to his own arrogance and inner conflict against Kenobi

[@tvvistedv3nom26]

Please never say Vader was more on par than darth maul 😂 maul admitted he couldn’t deal with Vader alone and Vader was 80% of the Sidious peak power which was in ROTJ and both were more powerful than sidious was during ROTS

[@BigDaddyG1738]

Alternate universe theory Anakin Skywalker versus Darth Vader❤

[@rudebatman602]

Obi wan is the best! He beat maul 3 times, beat vader twice, and grievous. I can admit hes not the strongest if he fought against his opponents in an octagon, but he felt like a master tactician. Using the terrain, and understanding his opponents. This makes him someone you can't sleep on

[@astabros3305]

Kratos vs Dante

[@jasonbladzinski5336]

Vader became more powerful even in his suit than Anakin was before his near immolation. It's just that he couldn't achieve his full potential anymore.

[@Mapca45]

Vader was said to drop to 80-85% of his potential. He was still in the top 5 even 3 most powerful SW characters ever

[@hendrikmoons8218]

A dozen "Bob Semple tanks" versus 1 Jagdpanther + 1 Kuggelblitz. The Bob-Semple's get the high ground... I just finaly wana see someone having the high ground loose...

[@lazarus9638]

Lets just consider Kenobi not canon. Lol

[@pike100]

Canon* not cannon. A cannon is a weapon used on a battlefield.

[@flyte707]

George already said obi wan threw the fight and obi wan was even stronger than vader in a new hope. My theory is he knew he could only defeat the emperor by becoming one with the force and guiding luke

[@jkgaming0565]

Bro who pronounces an AY-AT as @@ 💀💀💀

[@teenrose13]

Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku vs Sentry

[@TSDT97]

Darth Vader's prime is when he is combined with Anakin in Ahsoka for me as he is there, he obliterates Yoda any time.

[@OmertaGunClub]

i read somewhere vader could’ve upgraded his suit and made it more convenient for himself but having to struggle and be in pain everyday with his initial suit strengthened his connection to the dark side

[@andylaw3222]

Which is stupid, because he could do BOTH Anakin is still a genius with machines and technology. Increasing his mobility, making the suit resistant to force lightning, reducing its weight and so on.

[@adampotters3687]

I think it would be possible for Vader to win...IF he was given a better suit. Palpatine deliberately made his suit limited. Also, vulnerable to force lightning. Great video though! Loved it

[@gerardhart9052]

First let us admit that there is a lack of consistency. Next Vader is physically strong due to cybernetics though not very flexible and has an unreal pain tolerance besides being naturally gifted to be the strongest due to his midi-chlorian content. The key though is intelligence where he is a very poor judge of character and easily manipulated while being arrogant and lacking self control/discipline. This is highlighted when he lost to Obi-Wan despite being the better because he was strategically out maneuvered and instead of going for the easy victory by attacking obiwan's feet chose to make an extravagant move of attempting to force jump over him. This shows that even with all the best natural attributes it is intelligence and self control that that will often determine victory. Luke was able to resist Palpatine's manipulations and influence Vader to turn showing that Luke had the right mix even with minimal training. Yoda is super mobile and has a very small hit box that is low to the ground making him a very hard target to hit adding his skills, force strength and wisdom to that makes him almost invincible.

[@robertweddle2374]

Yoda wins hands down without question he's got centuries of experience and faced many fighters in his time

[@NovaPrime77]

Vader never beat Obi-Wan in lightsaber combat. Obi-Wan sacrificed himself so that Luke and Leia could escape.

[@spider-man500]

Danco really doesnt know shit does he?

[@CelestQB]

Exactly💀

[@MrEbo82]

Correct

[@themightofgeburah5882]

EXACTLY BRO.

[@saul_goodman3932]

Facts

[@windandcloudshadow158]

Prove him wrong then.