Why Palpatine Said Luke was STRONGER in the Dark Side Than Anakin - Star Wars Explained

[@steveo518]

“So be it, Jedi.” I always think of Sidious’ response to Luke after the latter proclaims himself a Jedi. In particular how Palpatine says “Jedi” with such venom, as it disgusts him to his core.

[@BlackMarvel25]

It does. Most of the sith hated the jedi so much. I'm pretty sure someone like sidious would've thrown up after having his meetings with the jedi council when he was still hiding his identity.

[@salnal338]

I always felt that it wasn’t just Luke unleashing his Jedi fury on Vader during the last part of their duel but that he briefly did fall to the dark side and only regained control after he cut off Vaders hand and saw just how close he had come to following the same path and resolved himself back to the light side

[@michaelray3865]

Absolutely. George Lucas wrote it precisely that way. You can mark Palpy’s sadistic joy turn to fury by the expression on his face as Luke sees his fate if continued down the Dark path.

[@minnumseerrund]

Definitely. There's no such thing as "Jedi fury" - unless we're talking about Mace Windu's Vaapad, a style notoriously difficult to master to such a degree that every Jedi who used it, except Mace, fell to the dark side. "A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack." -Master Yoda

[@slappedegg1056]

Im sure for a second or two his eyes turned yellow

[@mathewquigley9672]

I believe that after seeing the wires from vaders wrist he truly understood the lesson that dooku thought his father in a way.

[@Tapp-Mourningwood]

​@slappedegg1056 Turning to the dark side, is bad for your liver. 🤒

[@pachalos6462]

I believe on the deathstar Anakin already came back, and he wasn't protecting Palpatine by defending him from Lukes blow. He was defending his son from the dark side.

[@YamiRondo2]

As a kid i didnt realize how close luke was to the dark side as i grew up and started getting into the lore of star wars and actually seen how close he was and for him to not to turn really makes me cry as a adult its just beautifully done the ending ROTJ really is emotional imo

[@okamireader5]

I did feel that Luke was in true danger of losing himself, of getting too close to the edge and falling into the void of darkness, and forever would the Dark Side rule his destiny, as Yoda had warned him But in that critical moment, when Luke drew closer and closer to the edge as he unleashed his fury upon Vader, it was seeing his father's cybernetic hand and being reminded of his own, a physical representation of how alike they actually were and how dangerously close Luke was to becoming as trapped in the Darkness as his father had been It was sympathy, empathy, and relation and understanding about his father in a way he had not been able to before, despite Obi-wan's journals and all the secondhand accounts he'd gotten of his father. This moment helped Luke understand father more than he ever had before and it was that understanding along with the realization that taking this path to the end would be the end of himself as Luke Skywalker, aspiring Jedi, Rebel Hero, and Hope of the Galaxy Thus, he was able to regain focus and steel himself, cementing his adherence to the Light in spite of how closely he's skirted towards the Darkness and spit in the Emperor's face by his declaration that he would never turn to the Dark Side for he had become a Jedi like his father before him And Sidious, infuriated yet focused with frigid hate upon this insolent boy, could only respond by acknowledging Luke's declaration to be true by addressing him as 'Jedi'

[@camchrist2606]

"Council member Filoni" is hilarious

[@chriscepec1655]

Exactly. Filoni's opinion doesn't matter. Lucas opinion does. I consider anything after Disney bought it is none canon

[@wesleyc8101]

@@chriscepec1655 Filoni is the new Lucas. Filoni is the new author of Star Wars.

[@minnumseerrund]

@@chriscepec1655 bruh Lucas has retconned himself out of existence and we see the difference between him being in total control and having people edit out his dumbass ideas in prequel trilogy vs original trilogy

[@TwhistyyHD]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@minnumseerrundpeople edit out his dumb ass ideas for the prequel trilogy? So you’re saying the original trilogy is better ? Just curious.

[@BananaWasTaken]

@@TwhistyyHDI think they’re saying the original trilogy is better since there were more people involved to improve scripts and edit outs Lucas’ dumb ideas, whereas Lucas had a lot more creative control in the prequels leading to them being worse.

[@tyranix9785]

The ending is so good because several competing plot points built up over time (The Emperor's plan, Vader's plan, the Alliance's plan, and Luke's plan) converge in the throne room to create a moment of doubt surrounding the outcome of the encounter and the hero's journey. ... And what better way to resolve uncertainty on screen that with ACTION.

[@donavandwelch]

Sidious was never defenceless. As stated here, Palpatine disdained lightsaber combat. The dark side was his weapon. Jaba was the focal point of danger. You don't challenge beings like that to a dual, you just end them.

[@youngmoneyclutch]

this guy gets it

[@darylsdesigns6679]

“In time, he will seek you out. And when he does, you must bring him before me. He has grown strong. Only together can we turn him to the dark side of the Force.” - Emperor Palpatine

[@Ravenfanatic5]

"As you wish" "Everything is proceeding as I've had foreseen"

[@recoil53]

That is pretty much telling Vader to kill Palpatine, Luke, or himself - given the Rule of Two. Because if Luke is that strong, no way is he only an Inquisitor.

[@gponce1717]

Vader: (He's trying to Dooku me?)

[@shawn092182]

*After Anakin killed Sidious* Luke: Apparently, the Emperor didn't see that coming. Hahahaha!!! *Years later - episode 9* Sidious: I did see that coming, young Skywalker. Hahahaha!!!! Rey: What did you say to me? Sidious: Nothing. I said young Skywalker, not young Palpatine.

[@minnumseerrund]

@@recoil53 except there's no rule of two in the original trilogy. Hell, even the word Sith wasnt a thing.

[@idiocrat3744]

You know, this makes sense. Yoda pointed out correctly that Luke was always looking to the future, never mind on where he was, what he was doing. He tried to kill Jabba, the Emperor, and Vader because of a hypothetical future where his friends die or become monsters. Only when he stops this way of thinking does he realize that he's becoming a monster himself.

[@brentlashley2138]

If Luke gave Sidious a hug and called him Grandpappy, it would've literally killed him with kindness.😂

[@JCTriple7]

Bro what the freak 😂

[@Gor85]

This is great video! Luke became very strong in dark side. It was slippery when Palpatine told Luke about Rebellion,his friends. When Luke pulled his lightsaber. Difference is Anakin executed Dooku when Palpatine ordered him. Luke didn't kill Vader. He was a Jedi,like Anakin. May the Force be with you too😊

[@mrolaf1598]

thank you for breaking down this moment and showing your true appreciation for this scene, you only made me love this scene so much more thank you

[@Deonra1971]

I am a Jedi, like my father before me

[@Ravenfanatic5]

"So be it....Jedi"

[@AlphonsoFrett-xz6pi]

Anakin return to being a Jedi

[@shawn092182]

Then Palpatine returns to being a Sith.

[@micg7282]

⁠@@shawn092182was it really returned or just Palpi doing Palpi things?!😂

[@extraplain2412]

"no jedi ever escaped Vader" except for Ahsoka, Obi-Wan, Kanan, Ezra and Kal.

[@thewanderingronin5433]

When I was old enough to think critically about the situation that I realized, Vader wasn't trying to save palpatine but that Anakin was trying to save Luke

[@willdavis3802]

Vader was putting on a show, while testing Luke.

[@trence5]

Truth be told, the Emperor should've been suspicious when Vader reported that a small rebel squad got by the checkpoint and Luke was them, which Sidious found it strange that Vader sensed Luke and he(the Emperor) did not.

[@eds1942]

They had actually filmed an alternate final scene with Luke putting on his father’s helmet and announcing himself as the new emperor.

[@dominickgaramella6431]

Legends has the dopest stories.

[@darthkrevan710]

When I was watching, the return of the jedi was able to see the struggle. I love how Luke shows struggle to attack and vader steps in to save his son is beautiful

[@camconvo]

Dude wtf. Spoiler alert

[@darthkrevan710]

@camconvo dude it's been out longer than I have been alive so failure on your part..

[@camconvo]

@@darthkrevan710 you missed the joke

[@darthkrevan710]

@camconvo not a good joke...

[@camconvo]

@@darthkrevan710 go back to your moms basement

[@jamesmeeks4852]

Great content. I feel that because Luke wasn't taken as a child to learn as a Jedi from a youngling after the Jedi Council didn't exist, Obiwan taught him realizing the mistakes of Jedi dogma. Luke was encouraged to reach out and search with his feelings/emotions allowing him to get opportunity not to be restricted by his emotions, but to embrace his personal intuitions to truly allow The Force to lead his own individual spirit to judge the situation with The Force. Not through the rules and regulations of The Council, but to experience the situations The Force allowed through his own eyes and with his own heart.

[@jshirlee]

You did another in depth breakdown of this scene a couple months ago. Both are really good.

[@The_Texorcist]

I always felt that what Palpatine felt was that because of Luke’s inexperience he was a great candidate. Unlike Anakin Luke went most of his youth ignorant of the force and the dark side, he didn’t have years to repress his feelings etc. So to that end there was no indoctrination to the Jedi for all those years. That to me would make him especially not only easily to convert but because of his emotions would be more easy to push to use them to great effect in the dark side.

[@FFA441]

Luke using his lightsaber like its a baseball bat in episode 6 looks so weird now days

[@rollingpingamers2785]

Kind of makes sense considering Obi-wan dies early on in Luke's training I guess some lightsaber training came from Yoda, not sure how much though so maybe it's because Luke is self taught if he is which would explain some things

[@xingyuzhou1891]

It is the way of the sequels.

[@flyingwambulance]

I like it. I prefer it over the flashy acrobatic show. You can clearly see his anger and rage in his strikes. At that point he had already given in to the dark side.

[@johnnycasteel7]

Like when Mace Windu ruthlessly hacked Jango Fett to pieces

[@matthewdavis3125]

This is so badass! I love this channel so much!

[@SMALLMAXOC-d8j]

No matter expanded or Disney PALPATINE somehow returns

[@nonames2880]

He rush it with luke, he gave luke no real reason to join the dark side. while Anakin thought had no other option but to in brace the dark side.

[@benjaminfinch4499]

The duel on the second Death Star has actually perplexed me over the last few years for one reason: when you look at the Battle of Endor as a whole, did Luke confronting the Emperor and Vader do anything that actually HELPED the Rebellion blow up the damn thing???? Seems to me like that was going to happen whether or not Vader was redeemed.

[@shinzontheta]

I figured it was running out the clock so that way vader and the emperor would be caught in the explosion if things went ass over teakettle

[@flyingwambulance]

Well Luke himself simply wanted to turn his father, it wasn't really to help the rebellion. But, if Luke wasn't on the death star there is a big chance that Vader would be down on Endor and destroy the rebels pretty fast.

[@yisusprice2570]

Similar to other comments, I believe that even though Luke may not have been there specifically to aid the rebels, he managed to occupy the attention of the empire's most powerful figures, ensuring they were preoccupied with him and their clashing Jedi/Sith beliefs. Had this not occurred, the Emperor and Darth Vader would likely have concentrated on the rebels at Endor, which, I suspect, would have resulted in a loss for the heroes of the galactic civil war.

[@BenMallerThe]

I think part of it was a plan to distract the clock something under those lines, but remember Gen. Akbar saying "It's a trap" So that part of the plan didn't come to fruition.

[@David-cv1se]

Who cares what Disney thinks

[@calebdonovan7301]

Disney has done far more damage then the empire ever did

[@brycekayski9284]

@@calebdonovan7301^

[@allan.a.c6043]

​@@calebdonovan7301😂man this is so true

[@LarryOrtwine]

@@calebdonovan7301they’re so trash they couldn’t even give baylan skole a proper entry. They gave him some knock off vader intro. Baylan made the ahsoka series. Sucks he died

[@Redeemed_marine_69]

Yeah it blows me away people have considered the sequels apart of Star Wars. Lucas himself said there is nothing past episode VI. Besides the sequels being the most abysmal pieces of crap ever to hit the big screen.

[@mathewquigley9672]

Vader was not just taunting Luke in their dual. He was teaching Luke how to beat him. He wanted Luke to kill him and one day kill his master. In death he would have peace knowing there was no more pain and his evil master would pay for his crimes at the hands of his son. Vader loved his son from the second he knew of him to is last breath. Vader never wanted Luke to die or fail. He prayed Luke would embrace the darkness to gain the power to save himself and his loved ones as he wanted to do years ago for his.

[@israelfields5721]

Luke was almost a sith it is interesting the idea if Luke had killed his father and joined the emperor and I am Glad to see that this channel is talking about it

[@nektariosh3470]

Great analysis. Thanks

[@marikuami6840]

THANKS FOR ALL YUR HARD WORK ..PAGES LIKE THIS IS WHATS KEEPING STAR WARS ALIVE ATLEAST FOR ME❤️‍🔥

[@drkinferno72]

Im amused that bith obi wan and yoda werent gonna call luke a jedi,but palpatine would 😂

[@davidsmith7962]

You failed your highness. I’ll never turn.

[@hackman669]

Sure you will... We have cookies 🍪😅

[@titangamerhd9215]

​@hackman669 cookies are the most powerful weaponn in star wars

[@Skarbro]

Great video man. I really enjoyed your explanation. Excellent 😎🤘🏻

[@nodatastored684]

He already had lost everything that mattered. And Luke like padme, knew Anakin, was still in there. Like Leia save she lost all she ever knew and loved

[@Scrubermensch]

I never thought about the fact that Vader abdicated from his promotion in the Empire to save his son. It just keeps getting better.

[@hugoh26]

I love the dark empire series, this showes the enigma portrayed here perfectly. You can sum it up to the point of contact when the empreor land luke’s mind touch in the force storm on corruscant, the mind of two, one in the purest light and one in the darkest of darkness. Also it gives a good arc on how luke is able to walk the part between, so i belive luke at the end of dark empire is probably one of the most powerful of all times, also that he was closer to a grey jedi like mace windu. Also that luke and leia at the moment of using the Power of light is as close to a full potensial chosen one we will ever see. I could like parts of the last 3 movies as a close to the skywalker saga and new beginning with Rey, but only if they would make the dark empire series and let us see luke bloom into full potensial and going through and learning his fathers lessons. I mean crushing a droid in mando is cool, ripping a star destroyer from space or just crushing a at at with the force like waving your hand well thats a statment.

[@michaelzoran]

It would have been an interesting ending if Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker teamed up to fight against Darth Sidius. We likely would have seen Sidius use the Force Lightning to quickly destroy Vader. And the Force Lightning would have easily worked against Luke Skywalker, too. So, Luke would have had no choice but to take the place of Vader.

[@davelange8368]

I think this was required for Luke to bring balance, to learn that ignoring the dark side wasn't the answer. The Jedi and sith were both at fault for skewing the force the way they saw fit.

[@firstnamelastname9237]

The jedi didn’t ignore the dark. They literally had a man make a form just because he had dark tendencies so he could stay in the light and still fight effectively in his own way.

[@davelange8368]

@@firstnamelastname9237 hiding anything dark side related and not allowing the study of them, essentially pretending they didn't exist would be ignoring. And the Jedi also ignored emotions because of fear of the dark side, but both Qui-gon and Luke accepted emotions and used them to strengthen their ties to the force.

[@firstnamelastname9237]

@@davelange8368 So, not something they actually did then. Mace windu literally being a prime example of that. Juyo itself has a dark origin. Some stuff was restricted, but not that much was genuinely forbidden. Additionally, it was restricted because dark sided artifacts and knowledge can, with their mere presence, corrupt those not prepared for them. And dark sided knowledge is more likely to turn an unprepared jedi or padawan too quickly, and as evidenced by how often Luke's jedi fell to dark artifacts, the jedi of the prequel era were exactly correct in that concern. Legends wise, Luke's jedi had a TERRIBLE track record for going dark sided compared to the prequel era of jedi. It was an extremely common occurence that one was either turned dark sided, or mind controlled by someone or something. They also fully showed they existed, they just restricted access to them. So....what any rational person would do with stuff that can turn an average padawan into a knight or master level threat. But they didn't ignore emotions. As mentioned, there's literally a jedi known for his love of fighing, and not only do multiple jedi explicitly (and openly) express friendships and even familial or cultural connections. They also encourage enjoyment of things, many jedi drink and eat well, young jedi play games and have friendships, many jedi have had pets. The acceptance of the existence of emotions, but refusal to bow to them, both existed during the prequel era and in Luke's. Luke was more lax on formal and more permanent attachments like Marriage, but even in that area the jedi were not all encompassing on their strictness over it. The idea jedi tried to pretend emotions shouldn't exist is basically a fan invention, the films directly contradict that with obi wan, nearly the most traditional jedi imaginable, flat out saying he loved anikan, and how often jedi just full on ignored or encouraged the relationships people had only warning about being attached, but not about being friends or enjoying company. Jedi's usage of attachment is pretty clearly more specific than just 'oh you like person BAD.'

[@flyingwambulance]

@@firstnamelastname9237 The whole point of Anakin falling to the dark side is because he had to hide his attachement to Padmé and couldn't be open about it. Yoda clearly tells Anakin to let go off everything he fears to lose, we only fear to lose what we're attached to. The whole reason for the Jedi's downfall was because they were too dogmatic about these views. Even Yoda came to realize this after the fall of the Jedi. Qui-Gon was what a true jedi should be and not even Yoda realized this until it was too late. I think you missed the point of the prequels.

[@firstnamelastname9237]

​@@flyingwambulance No it *isn't* because he had to hide, he CHOSE to hide. He could legit have just left the order, numerous jedi of the past did so. THE PREQUELS THEMSELVES involve a jedi who not only did so, but was widely respected before people realized he was sith. His fall is because he was possessive and narcissistic. And also monumentally stupid but I don't think that part was intentional. And it's not because they were dogmatic, if they were too dogmatic, he'd never have gotten in. There was no actual rule that the chosen one needed to be a jedi. It's because they were, themselves, failing the attachment issue. Not with people, but with the republic. They should have been more independent. I mean you're right, but you did miss the why of qui gon. Qui Gon Jinn does what he thinks is the most likely will of the force, the jedi have grown attached to the republic and so instead of trying to follow the force properly and acting indipendently, mistake their duty as being to the republic. Qui Gon Jinn consistently acts independent of outside influence, he's clearly jedi, but you could toss him into any era, and his actions wouldn't change. Someone like Mace Windu, who is extremely attached to the republic, would likely be wildly different in the era of the empire. The idea that it was because they were too dogmatic (while somehow missing them repeatedly NOT following dogma) came from the fans, not the actual stories.

[@aster4jaden]

Anything Dave Filoni says should be taken with a grain of salt, he'd say anything for his Dark Master in order to promote and protect a certain Character who stole Luke's last name.

[@zach9962]

😂 his dark master

[@franktanner6278]

Luke was more like an original Jedi than like a "modern" Jedi. Original Jedi weren't "just" light side or dark side and they encouraged relationships.

[@ChefSpinney]

Just like Yoda warned, Luke started down the Dark Path when he first went to Vespa. His choices were driven by fear, which later turned to anger during his duel with Vader and finally hatred upon discovery of their relation. And, just like Yoda warned, it forever dominated his destiny. Only it wasn't how Yoda expected it would. Luke's second confrontation with Vader on the second Death Star brought him to the brink of falling to the Sith and it was through this that Vader was able to finally fulfill the prophesy of bringing balance to the Force, not by killing Palpatine, but by Luke learning to balance the Light and Dark in himself as he stood over his defeated father and saw their true resemblance for the first time. Also, stop calling Disney 'Cannon'. It's shitty Fanfics with a billion dollar budget.

[@stepheneddington1667]

I don't think it was wrong for Luke to just stroll into Jaba's and use any force abilities that might seem to be rooted in the Dark Side. He did attempt to use diplomacy by sending 3PO and R2D2 to negotiate. Arriving at Jaba's and finding out that Jaba wouldn't see him told him there would be no negotiation with him. Luke already knew that Jaba would kill anyone he didn't agree or was willing to deal with. Plus, he most likely was able to sense that Jaba was going to give the order to kill him, so what Luke did was self defense.

[@JAllen5050]

Ok, first, he didn’t kill the guards. Second, he didn’t do anything wrong when he directed Bib Fortuna. Third, to kill Jaba, Jaba’s word was his weapon. Jaba was NEVER defenseless.

[@bobsbasscovers]

He did turn for a bit and was apprentice to the reborn emperor

[@johnauld4071]

Problem is that over time, Palp's "join the Dark side" sales pitch and skills got pretty awful. To Anakin: "Those jedi hate you and don't respect you and are hiding stuff from you. Join me and I'll show you the lot. Oh and you get the weekly bonus: I'll stop your wife from dying." To Luke: "Heh heh. Young fool. I corrupted your dad and now I'm going to murder your buddies while you watch. Join me." Luke: "Uh? Why the heck would I want to do that?" Palp: "Um. Heh heh. Good question. Dunno." "Uh. It's your destiny? I didn't really think about it and George didn't either."

[@CloudedGhost]

I appreciate your channel, as a new Star Wars lover these videos really explain a lot for me in between these movies I’m watching, I finished all thee original movies and right now I’m watching the obi wan kanobi show

[@chrisbullee15]

I get more chills listening to this than any new Disney Star Wars!

[@hinatahyuga9311]

The Skywalker bloodline is strong in many forms but even Luke was strong with his emotions as we all remember Vader before his defeat told Luke that if he will not turn perhaps Leia will which turned Luke into a fit of hate and rage

[@lordgodspeed1539]

The only time I thought Luke could’ve went to the dark side was when Veda mentioned his sister.

[@cleardrop4531]

As a kid I never saw it but as an adult especially on my last watch I could see the inner turmoil in Luke and noticed the light and dark mixed when confronting jabba

[@mkklassicmk3895]

Luke has a way better reason for turning to the Dark Side than Vader did. The Emperor destroyed his whole family.

[@user-oi6ei5rk5c]

Luke did turn to the dark side. When Vader mentioned "sister, so, you have a twin sister." And her going the dark side, Luke lost his shit.

[@feiery]

“Your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong especially for……your sister. So, you have a twin sister. Obi wan was wise to hide her from me. Now his failure is complete. If you won’t turn to the dark side, then perhaps she will!” I would’ve lost my shit too.

[@Sleeves444]

I never for a second doubted Luke

[@alphaknight4067]

Is the guy luke is fighting in the image at 0:09 a actual character cuz he looks dope?

[@BillAngelos]

I crushed the subscribe button so hard I clicked it twice

[@SARSIPIOUS606]

Luke joined the dark side in the Dark Empire comics.

[@Awesomeness4627]

Horseshit

[@ThePhysicalReaction]

Disney might own the IP, but that does not afford them rank of master.

[@michaelhealy1863]

You know what I found interesting is that I believe Darth Vader purposely stopped Luke from striking palpatine down because in his vision he wanted Luke to strike him down so they can take his place but I believe Darth Vader AKA Anakin did not allow Luke to do because he didn't want Luke to go down the same path as he did

[@cherrytonshawty9120]

Anakin didn't even want to kill Dooku, even with as many horrible things as the Count had done up to that point. Luke, however, had nobody holding him back, so he deemed the darker things he did as necessary in the end. Truly interesting.

[@wtfamiactuallyright1823]

I'd of been close to turning.

[@souldragin5497]

Luke was knighted by Palpatine a sith loed not many jety can say at

[@ryandenina7735]

Why do these darn vids making me cry?😢

[@stardust1621]

Anakin was the '' RETURN OF THE JEDI '' 😮😮

[@MrRashad776]

When I watch Luke enter Jabbas castle dress in all black. I was concerned for him. Yet I wasn't convinced until he forced choked the guards. I said to myself as a young person oh no he turned to the dark side to save his friends. Dag, Yoda warned LUKE!!! ABOUT GIVING IN TO HATE, FEAR, AND HIS ANGER. However, as the movie played on I saw he was still good and pure at heart ❤️.. But I noticed he was different than the Jedi that came before himself. And I said this is the change the Jedi order needs. The ability to love someone other than their self would help teach them early on in life how to coupe with their feelings and keep them from turning to the dark side. This was amazing!!! And may the force be with you all.

[@Edward-nf4nc]

Yes I did notice. I was relieved to see Vader block Luke's attack on the Emperor. The way Luke slammed his lightsaber down on Vader's was scary. However I liked the way Vader held up his remaining hand in a way that was saying 'enough, enough'. The mighty Lord Vader was pleding for his life! However, I always thought it was the Emperor who stopped Luke from killing his father. It caused Luke a distraction from his emotions of anger towards Vader and allowed Luke to calm down. It also showed Vader how different Luke was from Anakin. Anakin would always kill to bring peace and protect his friends and loved ones, but Luke showed he would rather die as a Jedi than kill to save his friends. This showed Luke had what Anakin had not, limits, and knew when to fight and when to stop. This is what Sidious feared. Luke had proven he could over come his fears whilst Anakin could not. When he realised this, he realised the spirit of the Jedi was not dead and Luke's death could inspire others. The hope the Jedi brought in dark times had returned! And Luke's death would not stop it! It was here he realised he had failed as a emperor and would have to become a Sith Lord to deal with this...."Jedi" And as Anakin carried Sidious to the shaft he realised Yoda and Luke were right! "Faith in your new apprentice, misplaced maybe. As is your faith in the Dark Side of the Force" and "your over confidence is your weakness". The Dark Side blinded Sidious and his faith in Vader was misplaced and he died for it!

[@SpockolateChip]

The redemption of Vader was so beautiful and well done. It sucks that seeing Palpatine (one of the coolest Sith Lords) again in the new trilogy felt wrong because of the original storyline. I love the cloning concept and that whole plot line is pretty cool, it still feels bad that Vaders redemption just slowed down Palpatine rather than destroy him.

[@jamesmeeks4852]

It's one thing to give over to anger to tap into that part of The Essence for selfish gain. It is another to tap into the suffering of your friends and the Universe to rid the world of a common enemy to true freedom.

[@TheDevilofDallas666]

And this is exactly why we need a Rogue Squadron series in the Clone Wars format set between A New Hope and Return of the Jedi. Star Wars: OT OG's. Written by Filoni, with folks like Famuyiwa, Howard, and Favreau contributing. Luke's character development was great in the movies but you have three years between IV and V and one between V and VI and there's so much more to expand on for him, Leia, Han, Chewie, Lando and even Vader.

[@bkr8932]

All I can hear is Filoni trying to cover for Rian Johnson’s missteps

[@eds1942]

Filoni describes the Luke of the OT in that scene, and how Lucas wanted to the audience to perceive it. Ryan’s Luke was a guy, ruled by fear and limitations that never really evolved from the Empire Strikes Back. Note how he highlights that Luke believed throughout that there was still good in his father and uses selflessly casts his lightsaber aside forcing Anakin to choose to be the father. Ryan’s Luke would’ve believed him to be irredeemable and try to kill him just to get away, if he ever even managed to crawl out from under the stairs.

[@Jcflyerofficial]

Facts

[@Kepora1]

Filoni himself fell to the dark side, and it's a damned shame too.

[@markr418]

Luke had the ability to tap in to the dark side and not be consumed by it, unlike Anakin

[@jimmyramos1989]

It’s because he wasn’t trained from childhood-he wasn’t indoctrinated, so easily manipulated

[@trence5]

He was on the edge - of that I have no doubt.

[@jakobk78]

He did turn to the Dark Side in the Dark Horse comic series Dark Forces.

[@DocSnuffleupagus]

I would argue that Luke's actions with the force in the chamber were a ruse to lower Joba's threat assessment of his power to further his real escape plan. I could be wrong but I doubt Luke's plan from the start was to "kick down the door and fight everyone at such a strategic disadvantage.

[@darthbane5346]

I really want to see a cannon movie where it shows Luke turning to the dark side after the palpatine returned.

[@michaelgundel8168]

And yet in the dark empire Luke Skywalker dose in deed fall to the dark side. A holo vid on this maybe??.

[@rubinx8589]

But what happened on the 2nd death star. He was still intrigued on how his father fell to the dark side. He had small taste of it, in dark Empire he was controlled by it in some way. Even through he betrayed the emperor! But your right he should do a holocron on it!😊👍

[@rubinx8589]

@Vilgax00 True! But it would be nice to hear about or at least touch on a little more!🤷‍♂️

[@ozmozis6073]

I knew Luke was close to the dark side, as he was to the light side. When we judge Luke, we do so with the notions of the Jedi in the Republic. That's not who the Jedi were when the order was formed. They've evolved and as the dark side left it's mark on the light side, so has the opposite happened. Luke is of the new and improved Jedi, not shunning the dark but accepting that there must be a balance and I knew that's how he acted. He brought balance to the Force. Palpatine wanted to see what he wanted to in Luke; Vader was likewise blind to his son's force choice. They were both thinking in paradigms of the past. Yoda and Obi-Wan made the same mistake and underestimated Luke. It was Luke who evolved.

[@KepaniGrayson]

Luke came very to following in his fathers footsteps. Fortunately he was able resist going down such a dark path.

[@shadeofshattered3]

You fall into the darkside trying to avoid it like batman refusing to take the life of the most evil he becomes most responsible for the evil they do

[@politicalperson3100]

What is the theme called you use in the background?

[@DX16]

I think it should be noted that the dark side is a mental path, and a choice that you make, just like the light side. It's not necessarily something that defines your very being, and it's that mistake that made the Jedi mostly unable to redeem their conterparts. It's not because you did something bad with the force / as a force user that your entire life will be in the dark side. Everyone slips up at some point, but you still have the choice of not going further, of being selfless again after letting out justified anger.

[@Santaheckler]

Interesting view on Luke. I like to think his actions with Jabba etc. were different from Jedi during the Republic because they were being weakened by the Sith then. It’s very nuanced for sure, but it seems that the Jedi could and should have been more “aggressive” in protecting the light of the force. They tried to balance but for too long…Luke may have determined this error of the past and corrected it. He was to “bring balance” to the force as they say. True balance…

[@chadquigley227]

Also he tells Jaba to release Han or he will kill him. And as obiwan says in ROTS , only a sith deals in absolutes 👌

[@MichaelDerouse]

I could never understand why Luke Skywalker asked Yoda, how will I know the difference between the good side and the bad? How do you not know the difference between good and evil? It's surprising to me.

[@MMAFanFromKrypton]

Luke is the goodest good guy, the baddest bad guy, the goodest bad guy and baddest good guy you've ever seen.

[@SkinnyEatWorld95]

Legends Luke is the only true Luke Skywalker

[@roycehuepers4325]

Filoni is pretty respectful of EU... it's Disney itself, specifically Kathleen Kennedy, that ruins things. You see Filoni trying to merge the EU and Disney cannon though

[@stevemcqueen7735]

WTF not having a weapon doesn't make anybody defenceless. He's in a small room packed with armed thugs. Jabba is a criminal who deserves execution. He didn't even bring his lightsaber but tried less damaging means by putting down some hogs and trying to persuade his flunky. He was far too gentle dealing with Jabba that is why he had to fight the rancor.

[@coreyboggs2011]

You’d think Yoda would have taught Luke to defend himself against lightning or at the very least warned him about it

[@darkelfninja8351]

In the RotJ novelization, Luke used his hands to absorb the Emperor's lightning much as we saw Yoda do in RotS. But Sidious then increased his lightning's intensity and overwhelmed Luke's defenses.

[@dragonmaster0626]

I think Qui Gon would have viewed these actions as necessary. After all, he didn't necessarily agree with the Jedi Code, loyal only to the Force itself.

[@Trick-Framed]

Filoni is my age. I am not taking anything from the mind of someone my age when Star Wars was released. It leads to...dum dum dum...the Disney-side.

[@mogwiawolf4354]

just as a father should anakin was there to protect his son

[@TheShadow14150]

Anakin always dreaded the scenario getting worse, losing someone or something he cared about. Luke was already there, he had almost nothing to lose. Not only that, Luke had way less rules to follow, allowing him to give in to anger openly.

[@TheNinjakat2010]

Luke should have a purple Saber...like the Idea of purple lightsaber

[@kennethrutt7986]

If Vader wanted to use Luke to kill the Emperor and rule as father and son, then it makes no sense for him to intercede, when the outcome would have been the death of the Emperor and the turning of Luke to the Dark Side. Could Vader's redemption have started at this point, what Vader interceding a lapse of judgement, in wanting to save his son from the Dark Side?

[@reubenmorris487]

Luke tanked that force lightning pretty well.

[@mikevanroy9356]

Was Felinni even alive when ROTJ was made?

[@matthewedison3124]

The actions of Luke in Jabbas palace were part of his plan to get them away from Jabbas palace. He was never going to gun him down in cold blood, IMO, it was all part of the plan.